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coming up on r t in our team ploy covering the unrest in ukraine is airlifted out of the country three days after being shot we'll have an update on his condition from moscow just ahead. millions of dollars on capitol hill are earmarked for get the money will be reportedly used to create a new secret prison within the detention camp more on that coming up. and the head of u.s. intelligence issues a gag order for intel employees blocking them from citing news reports and sources based on leaks more on that later in the show. monday may twelfth eight pm in washington d.c.
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and lindsey france you're watching our team america a journalist working for archie who was shot while filming a military operation in eastern ukraine has been brought to moscow it took three days to negotiate his evacuation from mario pull in the ukrainian with ukrainian authorities are to have more from moscow. after several nerve racking complicated medical procedures three days of negotiations with ukrainian authorities show that as of early gopher was a journalist working for artie's roughly video agency who was shot while working in ukraine filming the violence there in the town on the ninth of may he has been finally brought to moscow along with his wife on board of a special medical evacuation aircraft and is now being treated by doctors in one of the main hospitals all for the russian capital it's still not clear what exactly happened on that day even when one of their as he was working how did it turn out that he was fired at he was shot in his stomach even though he was wearing
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a bulletproof vest with a huge sign saying dress on it he was clearly demonstrating to everyone especially to the armed men in military uniform that he was not armed he was just there to work he was a journalist how did it happen how did it work out the way he did but thankfully he's alive doctors say that the flight did not worsen his condition but he's stable although he's currently being treated at an emergency in an emergency room and his wife we spoke with she said that she's only going to meet with him tomorrow but she says that there's lots of still hope that everything will be ok for that he's twenty three years old doctors say that he passed through the previous medical operations so successfully and there is one more to go a little bit further on but once again we just hope that he will be ok and there will be no more further serious consequences for him putting his life on the line
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like that just for the world to see what's really happening in ukraine but to talk about what happened in the. on that day on the ninth of may we spoke to so that his wife who described the events of that day that was a shot of her with lot of those leases we had about a shooting in the town. sometimes i had a pass at that point we thought it wasn't a big deal but on our way we saw people rushing out of the center because there eventually couldn't manage to film an almond beaker we didn't return to the hotel for a change the memory kind of nice camera and went out again and ten minutes later i got a cold now his wife also stressed that to go there was wearing a bulletproof vest it's not the first time that he was on assignment filming the violent events still unfolding in ukraine right now but she said it was so sudden and everything was happening so unexpectedly that neither of them expected and even believed that they were in such grave danger just walking on the streets but when
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it sort of put into the field a cent he was walking along the street and it was several people walking in front of him and no one was targeting them so he thought it was safe he was carrying a first aid kit with a big red cross on it and was wearing a jacket with a with press clean a visa bill i'd also added that after that i was shot and fell into the grounds of a man who was walking just by on the street and ran up to him to help him and he was fired at as well he was shot and unfortunately he died right there on the spot i just said that she still hasn't told further about this but also she added that right now the situation there in those parts of ukraine is so dangerous she recommends all. the locals everyone living in those parts of the country should wear bulletproof vests she said that she's really not happy saying this but she said it's you think it's the truth because doctors told her that if it wasn't for the book proof vest then it's very unlikely that so that it would have survived
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such a dangerous injury a shot in the stomach is one of the most dangerous injuries that one could receive and even though she is in a very complicated. state right now in a stable condition but still very serious one still who knows what would have happened if you do. where that bullet proof vest it on the actually specifically it's the whole thing with someone firing a directly and precisely into that bulletproof vest despite the media signs on every whatever it's this precision which makes both guard to and fro that she said . suspect who was pulling on the trigger at that moment at the bulls he believes it was a sniper who probably thought the third was stillman him to believe the sniper was deliberately aiming for the unprotected part of his body or so once more both you know the head his wife guides are now in moscow he is being treated by doctors here
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looks like there's a good chance that things will be ok even though the injury that he received is very serious dr cesium ninety just twenty three years old he once threw the first operation quite well the flights didn't harm his situation and they say well there's enough reasons to believe that everything will be fine so i guess what's left is to thank him for the job that he did putting his life on the line like that to just for the world to be able to see what's really happening in those parts of the country the events which some media choose not to show that was our reporting the results of a referendum in eastern ukraine are an organizer say the majority of those who voted in lugansk regions sunday say they want independence from kiev the declaration of the region's new autonomy comes following massive anti-government protests there in recent months marches possibly or has more for us from time to ask. the final tally is now in for yesterday's referendum vote and no surprise it
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is an overwhelming yes for the right for self-determination here in the region the final count is eighty nine percent of people voting yes in the gun squeege and it stands at ninety six percent and it is also a referendum that saw an extremely high turnout there were people that were literally standing in some polling stations for hours the queues went all the way down the road sometimes in circling the next road and even going around the corner this is a clear indication of the importance and value that people here put on this referendum in a way essentially voting for an issue that was very close to their hearts the recent military operation that here the government for the better part of the past two weeks also saw people go in such large numbers to the streets and this was a point that was bought out by denis pushilin who is the chairman of the did its people's republic government he said that moving forward they can be no communication with here other than
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a prisoner swap said might be in the pipeline he said that only russia could act as a mediator and now moving forward the regions of didn't it and lugansk will cooperate we're hearing from the lugansk central elections committee that they are appealing to the united nations to grant them a sovereign state status at the same time they say that they're canceling the presidential elections that are slated to be held on the twenty fifth of this month that is something that people have been asking whether or not those presidential elections will go ahead in this part of the country and the answer is no this reaction has been greeted on the streets with a lot of enthusiasm in fact in front of the local administration building here intimidates people were very excited to hear the final tally although it was very much anticipated it did bring a lot of optimism from the crowds. i do believe the outcome reflects the will of the people here are several polling stations and everywhere. they will food and
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they will long. i'm really happy that people made this choice for you it's impossible to talk to the authorities in kiev who don't want to listen to us so that people decide it for themselves there's no doz government troops that are year are considered occupants and we need to free our land of them the good kid of government has responded by calling in this way for random fossett says that the results are illegal and that it will not recognize them but that kind of criticism is expected by people here in the region and it is certainly not something that they particularly worried about that was our to correspondent paula slayer following the locals declaration of sovereignty regional leaders then turned to moscow today asking to officially become a part of russia moscow has indicated it doesn't intend to annex the region and is pushing for the eastern regions to be included in political negotiations on ukraine's future to avoid a military solution to the standoff the kremlin though did weigh in on the results of the referendum saying moscow respects the will of the people in donetsk and
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lugansk and hopes that the practical realization of the outcome of the referendums will be carried out in a civilized manner russia called for a postponement of the independence referendum last week the regional leaders went ahead with the vote and us on the other hand doesn't recognize the referendum calling it illegal under ukrainian law and described the polling as suspect meanwhile former congressman ron paul weighed in on the apparent flip flopping some may be noticing in the state department's reaction to violence in ukraine referencing the u.s. sides denouncement of ukrainian police action toward violent protesters in kids might on square during the winter months and comparing it to the endorsement of a recent ukrainian military crackdown on separatists of the interim government he said he was state department provided much assistance earlier this year to those involved in the effort to overthrow the ukrainian government but now that those former protesters have come to power the u.s. takes a different view of protests. now they give full support to the bloody crackdown
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against protesters in the east they think the rest of the world doesn't see this hypocrisy as a crisis in ukraine simmers and political opinions on the matter remain divided only time will tell how the situation will be resolved. well although you may have heard from media reports that guantanamo bay detention camp is downsizing even considering shuttling inmates off to foreign countries like europe way that doesn't mean the funding for new secret presence on the site isn't ramping up or she's making lopez takes a look at the proposal for a brand new multi-million dollar high value detainee complex. the most expensive a prison facility in the world is about to get a little more pricey if congress and the u.s. southern command get their way and earmark was added on to the twenty fifteen national defense authorization bill that would allow ninety three million dollars to the guantanamo bay detention facility now the book of that money would go to constructing
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a new state of the art secret facility to house some of the most dangerous or high value detainees now since two thousand and six at camp seven has housed nine eleven conspirators and others currently fifteen former cia prisoners are being housed as they await their death penalty trials they include nine eleven mastermind khalid shaikh mohammed along with four alleged coconspirators of that nine eleven terror plot now the accused bomber of the two thousand bombing of the u.s.s. cole destroyer him on the shiri is also there and almost everything about this complex is classified from where it is located within guantanamo bay to who exactly is in or what exactly is in the construction costs now in march the prison camp commander rear admiral richard butler began to shed some light on the secret facility he testified that camp seven was built on a shifting piece of ground that has caused the walls and the floors to shift and crack so bad that some of the camp stores no longer close and he is not the only
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one who has spoken out on the record about the deteriorating detention facility i would just offer that i am concerned at this point in time that. the facilities that the infrastructure there built to last two or three or four years it's now been in existence for eleven years it's rapidly deteriorating and large measure has deteriorated he only requested forty nine million dollars for the new facility though and the pentagon is remaining tight lipped as to where the additional twenty million dollars proposal for camp seven has come from now here are the most recent earmarks and. they include in total ninety three million dollars have been requested including the sixty nine million dollars for the construction of that new facility another twelve million dollars will fund construction of a new dining room for the prisons and staff and then eleven point eight million dollars will be used to replace the medical facility that treats low value detainees now another interesting point that is worth keeping in mind is the
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defense department refused to include the sixty nine million dollars in his twenty fifteen budget report proposal instead asking its military engineers to reinforce the facility rather than buy a new one entirely now in a separate request the southern command asked for twenty point three million dollars to acquire its first full time ship that would help in anti drug smuggling operations that request however was denied right now one hundred fifty four people are being held at the facility as you can see from this chart to the number of detainees has gone down in recent years due to congress and the obama administration allowing for the transfer of prisoners this past year alone we have reported the transfer of detainees to slovakia algeria and saudi arabia among other nations another seventy six people have been cleared for transfer most recently has agreed to accept detainees from guantanamo bay if the u.s.
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freedom three cuban prisoners that it has captured over the years that proposal is still being discussed though so as you can see fewer people are being housed at the facility moving it slowly but surely toward the eventual closure that president obama has been asking for since he first took office and guess what the cost is still going up a miami herald investigation into the facility found out last year that the total cost to operate the facility every year is in the ballpark of half a billion dollars which translates to about two point seven million dollars per detainees who are here now by the end of twenty four to. in the u.s. will have spent a total of five point two four billion dollars on guantanamo bay and that is a conservative estimate so to compare that to a normal american prison the colorado supermax prison costs about seventy eight thousand dollars per inmate per year so one three fifths of the total cost on tom obey right now this year mark is still only a proposal and could very well be taken out of the twenty fifteen india
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a bill but for right now anyway although the detainees that might be starting to trickle out of the facility the money this still flowing in at the capital meghan lopez. attention people don't expect government officials to quote new sources any more in their interviews apparently that's just far too dangerous for national security according to the office of the director of national intelligence that is personnel falling within the u.s. intelligence community is now pretty hemmed in and that's a lot of people we're talking seventeen agencies and organizations they may not cite news reports based on leaks in their speeches opinion articles books term papers and other unofficial writings this is on top of a new review policy stating that the ody and i personnel and gauging in freeform discussions related to work must get pre-authorization first with the outline of topics expected questions and their responses which is key joining me to illuminate the reasoning in this is kathleen mcclellan the national security and human rights
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deputy director at the government accountability project thank you very much for joining me now personal needs preauthorization to talk to the public fine i get it that was issued in march this new directive though brings up the sourcing it says personnel must not use source in a comes from known leaks or an authorized disclosures of sensitive information ok there but the use of information in a public publication can confirm the validity of an unauthorized disclosure and cause further harm to national security now especially regarding leaks this information is all. already out in the public in most cases is there really a danger to national security i mean it's really hard to see how there is it's fascinating in the intelligence community that there's this notion of it can be public yet still classified and this directive is less about protecting national security than it is about controlling what information the public hears so there's information in the public eye and this directive chill's employees from discussing
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that information and fully discussing that information and the director of national intelligence tried to clarify and made the directive sound a lot less draconian than it really is but if you look at what's written and how it could be interpreted and how it's likely to be interpreted it whenever employees criticize the official position it's very very chilling well especially when referencing talking about referencing journalists journalistic work what do you think this directive a stemming from well it's an obvious response to this to the to the disclosures from the whistleblower edward snowden but it's completely misguided because instead of using this is an opportunity to engage with the public director clapper has chosen to chill employees and show what they can say and instead make sure that the public hears his official position which is disturbing because his official position has been misleading and in sometimes it's been outright false like when he lied to congress. very scary indeed now is this setting
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a dangerous precedent as you've referenced you know untrue untrue statements to congress and so on. as you say chilling employees from making disclosures and using you know tools like this saying you will have punishments rained down on you etc etc it seems very dangerous well it's certainly chilling especially when it's read with the earlier directive which said that employees cannot speak with the media at all even informally so you have those two combined with the record number of espionage act prosecutions brought against alleged leakers who are really almost always whistleblowers that sends a very chilling message and i think the public is really who is going to suffer i mean employees have a constitutionally protected right to speak on matters of public concern in the u.s. so the public is not going to hear from these people they are going to be chilled and the public is going to hear from the intelligence community leadership and that leadership are those are the same people that have been lying to the american
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public in the world about the scope of the national security agency's mass surveillance apparatus well exactly and if these leaders in the community as you say are scaring the underlings who have mortgages to pay bills to pay etc with penalties these people who were a source for the media in the past obviously are going to be very easily scared away let's talk about some of these penalties the failure to comply according to the o d n i failure to comply may result in the imposition of civil and administrative penalties and may result in a loss of security clearances and accesses civil penalty penalties very ambiguous very dangerous it seems what was your reaction when you read this civil penalties almost always is going to mean a loss of job loss of income and security clearance is actually probably the heaviest penalty that is the death knell for an intelligence community employer. see for being a contractor it prevents you from working in your field of expertise and it's used
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as a retaliation tool against a lot of whistleblowers and anyone who criticizes the government and i think the the more important point is that this is going to be selectively in first in force it's almost certain to be selectively and for inforced it's hard to see a general michael hayden a former n.s.a. director or keith alexander who just retired it's hard to imagine that they will be cracked down on for speaking out when especially when they're toeing the party line but when someone doesn't toe the party line or it's a lower level employees telling the public what the public needs to hear then it seems much more likely that that person will be subjected to some sort of penalty this directive also brings in former officials former employees within these seventeen agencies essentially blocking them from from citing news reports speaking to the media very openly. also ambiguous is that even enforceable in court for former employees to be held to
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a directive like this well right to speak employees even government employees have a constitutionally protected right to speak on matters of public concern it's unclear from the language of the directive whether or not it applies to all the agencies or just the ones that are directly employed by d.n.i. but regardless it's clear that director clapper is trying to extend his tentacles of control over the public debate beyond simply his employees and that's disturbing absolutely right kathleen mcclellan the national security and human rights deputy director at the government accountability project it was a near miss of the skies of florida back in march when an american airlines regional jet almost collided with an unmanned drone it was a fifty seat jet approaching tallahassee airport versus something the pilot of the jet described as a camouflage as for fixed wing aircraft arches nicholas o'donovan reports on the potential dangers planes face more and more as drones take off. that drones are more and more frequent in american skies is
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a fact for instance the us law enforcement is greatly expanded its use of the domestic drones for surveillance purposes the federal aviation administration the f.a.a. knows that this is a growing problem and is actin in consequence but as it frequently happens with new technologies or in this case new industries there are no specific or no tough guidelines yet for that we'll have to wait till september twenty fifth day when the f.a.a. will set the new rules for drone fly in by the way today at the white house secretary of transportation anthony were not fox said said that there is currently two active test in sites for drone flying in america in the meantime the f.a.a. does have some broad rules that require anyone flying model airplanes to notify. operators and controllers when flying within five miles of any airport it's also
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required for creational drone users to fly under certain safety guidelines included the drone remains below four hundred feet but in many cases these rules are just not enough and we saw this in the case of the jets that nearly collided with a drone over florida earlier this year the pilot of that american airline group regional jet told officials that on march twenty second he came dangerously close to a small remotely piloted aircraft about twenty three thousand feet above the ground and all of this happened near the tallahassee regional airport here in the state of florida we don't exactly know what kind of drone it was if it was a private drone a commercial drone or even an official one we also don't know if it all happened within that five mile range that we were talking about in other occasions such as an incident involving the u.s. a. after the pilot described site in flying objects as that was
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small income of the largest. f. or type fixed wing aircraft anyways the truth is that the lack of regulation and of control create dangerous situations and those involved may never be punished american airlines is although open in an investigation about this recent incident that it's unlikely that we have a conclusion anytime soon because there was a similar incident back in march twenty third team involved in an alitalia aircraft and that was near the airport j.f.k. airport in new york and the f.b.i. is still investigating that incident the f.a.a. has authorized more than five hundred public entities such as police departments to fly drones in the u.s. but the reality is that there are many many other drones flying out there and they're doing so under little or no regulation at all so the concern expressed by many like the s s l u that unregulated drones are the first step
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towards a surveillance society now we have to add safety as a growing issue the bottom line is that the f.a.a. needs to move toward regulation and it needs to do it quickly that was artie's nicholas of donovan well that does it for now for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash our team america and check out our website archita conflicts usa calcifying and twitter de france for now have a cretin. i . think.
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it's time to talk about anniston alabama because it is one toxic town that needs help and it sure ain't going to get it from that being stream media of the government there's an army base there called for cleland it was open from nine hundred thirty five until one thousand nine hundred ninety nine during which time tens of thousands of soldiers went through the base it was home to the army's women's corps military police school and that chemical corps and that but the story is about because that base was where the military conducted chemical and biological training and ran chemical weapons tests and guess what a fast growing number of former soldiers have now come forward claiming exposure to
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toxic chemicals on the base has caused not just cancer but other horrible health problems members of the community say these things so much death and sickness related to the base and that it's just heartbreaking to watch all of their neighbors suffer now the other side of town across the city of aniston is toxic to that's because everyone's favorite chemical company months santo dumped tons of dangerous p.c.p.'s into the air ground and water for decades at their plant in. anniston the government funded the study about that but so far they've refused to do anything for the vets on the other side of town at the toxic army base so now those soldiers who've gotten sick there are taking their case to washington they're backing the house resolution that would force the department of veterans affairs to create a registry of all the fort mcclellan vets and their health status this would help in figuring out the levels of toxicity but it also helps the vets get access to the
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v.a. benefits they need but if you go to track us to track the bill h.r. for eleven you'll see it has only a two percent chance of being enacted and during the local reporters investigation into the matter he came across an e-mail from a top department of defense officials saying the agency opposes a mandatory registry for the port mcclellan veterans because it would be too complicated and be too expensive of course so they don't want to spend any money or effort helping those who helped them in their little chemical experiment i'm sure the government doesn't want to talk about it in general because that would be admitting they did something terrible so since no one else is talking about it in the media or in the government we should try to bring awareness to it ourselves so let's talk about that tonight shall we by following me on twitter at the rest of it .
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it's technology innovations all the developments around russia we go to the future covered. scarf course. at the finish line at the marathon.
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there i marinated this is boom bust and these are the shows that we're tracking for you today. first up every little stories like a show it's actually a story now the fed cries richard fisher is fired up about the central banks of bond buying program we're taking a look at why along with the relationship between lower interest rates and deflation then we have michael mobile sent of the i have on the program over saying is head of global financial strategies at credit suisse and knows a bit about psychological behavior a thing or two now he's sign of how our rational belief can affect our financial decisions which you never want pretty fascinating fascinating stuff but certainly think it is and in today's big deal edward harrison and i are talking about income inequality globalization and wage stagnation it all starts right now. with.
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richard fisher president of the federal reserve bank of dallas said last week that he supports and the new central banks bond buying program this year but he also added that it's likely low interest rates will continue for some time now fisher is a voting member of the. fed's policy setting committee f o m c or federal open market committee i know you all know that he has been a pretty intense critic of the fed's attempts to stimulate growth by buying treasury and mortgage bonds now fischer supports the central bank ending its bond buying program the fed is on course to end the program in october if it continues to taper at the present rate of ten billion dollars now fisher has never liked the program explained friday why he doesn't support an even faster drawdown now here's a quote we juice the trading and risk markets so extensively that they became
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somewhat addicted to our commendation having done so the prudent course of action and best way to prevent the onset of market seizure is to gradually reduce and eventually eliminate the flow of excess liquidity that we have been supplying however with inflation well below the fed's two percent target there isn't much urgency to act on rates i've seen members agree interest rates currently pegged pretty much close to zero percent won't be increased until sometime in two thousand and fifteen fisher said quote there is abundant liquidity to finance economic expansion and the f o m c will assure that it remains affordable as long as the prospect of inflation rising above its two percent target remains a begins in abeyance now while the fed strives to achieve its low interest low inflation it doesn't want the economy to enter a period of deflation because that sets off destabilizing forces which have seriously negative consequences now back in two thousand and two the monster was the same then fed chairman alan greenspan called the threat of deflation quote
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pretty scary and subsequent chairman ben bernanke he laid out a playbook on making sure it doesn't happen here a playbook he later implemented during the financial crisis. what's really really scary about this though is that we're back here all over again we have the exact same deflation worry and policy response that ended with the housing crisis in the first place except of course this time the policy response has been even more aggressive so if it feels like deja vu that's because it is. buy low sell high that's how you make money in the market right and so now of course knowing when to buy low and when to sell high is a lot harder than it sounds outings of the complexity is our own psychological behavior now many economists assume their models assume in their models that
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economic actors act rationally but experts in psychology know how irrational beliefs and bias these can negatively affect financial decisions and consequently lose you money michaelmas them is managing director at the head of global financial strategies at credit suisse he also author of the book think twice harnessing the power of counter intuition which looks at how our biases might affect our financial decisions and offers ways to avoid these mistakes now michael welcome first and foremost michael it's interesting economics often assumes rational expectations but when you look at how people actually make financial decisions they have biases and use all sorts of mental shortcuts that can be deadly so you know a lot about this so what are the heuristic a heuristic factors and biases that basically you see and you need to watch for when making your decisions and writing what you write. exactly well first of all great to be with you aaron you know the bottom line is we often work through life with what you call touristic which is
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a fancy way of saying rules of thumb so we have ways of sort of shortcuts to figure out things and what's great about heuristics is they are quick but what's problematic about them is they often have blind spots or shortcomings so the key is to be aware of those biases and tried to to manage those so there are bunch of them up just give you one that's a sort of famous one is over confidence as we tend to be overconfident about our standing of the future and as a consequence for example new people think about the future they projected to the future they tend to project ranges that are vastly too narrow and they just don't see all the possible outcomes that are out there so there are a slew of these these types of biases that come out of these heuristics we all use her wrist it's a natural thing but again we're not always aware of the biases that come along with it michael jim many anecdotes are examples of how overconfidence hurts investors. well there's a great example and this is actually an interesting one with gender erin so there are some academics to study trading accounts of both men and women and what they
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found was the stocks of the men and women were basically the same but men delivered much lower returns than the women did primarily because they traded a lot more often primarily because they were very confident that they would need new is going on so there's a very direct costs associated with overconfidence particularly good what's going on what they do and as a consequence it's still a theory as for their own results michael i don't want to be overconfident but that sounds amazing. now can you tell me about confirmation bias and how that hurts investment returns. absolutely so it's interesting you know most of this year's just was a prior view of how the world's going to work right so you have a point of view on how things are going for a company or for the economy or for the market in general and then new information comes in and what you're supposed to do least by the books is to update your beliefs based on what the new information provides for it however this is monster brick wall called confirmation bias which basically says what we prefer to do is
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sort of stick to our old point of view and not update our point of view so so the reality is whatever decision you've made whether you're bullish or bearish or what have you you tend to want to find things that confirm your point of view and you sort of discount or disconfirm things that don't support your point of view so as a consequence we just don't update our beliefs as rapidly and as correctly as we should at least based on theories that's a big issues that people take one side or another of a particular debate and they're just very slow to move off those positions if they ever do that's so interesting to me i want to ask you do you think that loss aversion is a big deal and how investors perform or is it less important here a stick. well i missed the first part of the do you think that last a lot has been is yes very yeah so sorry about that yes so first of all let's explain what that is loss aversion says for a dollar gain a dollar loss which robs the symmetrical people suffer twice as much from the loss as they enjoy the gain so there are some very specific ways it manifests so for example if you buy a stock you typically don't want to suffer all you want to have
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a loss on it also people hold on to their losers and you'll sell their winners but they'll hold other losers too long because they don't want to to suffer from that loss so that's one example the second thing is this loss aversion coefficient that to the one i just talked about turns out that's different for different people which is not too surprising but it's also different for each of us and so if you've just gone through a period of lots of losses say two thousand and eight into two thousand and nine you become really loss of earth's really risk averse and as a consequence even if things are looking really attractive you don't want to participate likewise if you've been on a winning streak markets are up you're doing great you're feeling great you're going to let your guard down and really want to participate you said the outside sort of buying high selling low that loss aversion probably contributes to that behavior now do you have a lot of fund managers missed out in loss aversion in two thousand and nine. well you know the way to think about that is if you just did the math of the markets you
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know when the s. and p. for example united states at six seventy with probably eighty five or ninety dollars of earnings power the math of that was not very challenging however we've just gone through this incredibly to mulch us an incredibly painful period so as a consequence i think it is yeah it's up to the case of people's loss aversion coefficients went through the roof and they were just really scared now part of it is look at me and there was some scenarios under which the things continued to be bad what happened may not have been the only thing that could have happened but i have there's no question after any difficult period and by the way it's symmetrical after a really great period people want to keep participating on the upside so yeah i think for sure it's hard to separate your emotions from the basic math of the markets and from the math of the investments no doubt and that's it's most pronounced of course by definition at the extremes michael are the finance researchers doing investment research but you listen to them as you personally and and what are they saying about the most relevant and what is most relevant for investors. yes so listen i mean i think there are
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a couple guys who are really set it set themselves apart as being really great in their contributions the first is clearly danny kahneman who is a psychologist but won the nobel prize in economics in two thousand and two his book is called thinking fast and slow and i think is a really a must read for investors or really anybody that makes decisions day in day out one who's an economist trained as an economist who's done much more across the board of psychology is richard thaler at the university of chicago and sailors just just a huge body of really influential and very valuable work in getting people to think about these issues and more correctly so those are private maybe maybe the grandfather and the father behavioral finance economy and richard thaler because now i want to ask you is the investing world in the investment over here a lot about vision first of all what is an enormous and secondly from a behavioral aspect why does the phenomenon exist. yes a reversion to the mean is a very specific idea that says that outcomes that are far from average will be followed by outcomes with an expected value closer to the average rate so that's
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technique so if you you know if you did really well in your math test and you're an average student you are expected by your next test is going to be something closer to your core ability it's really tricky because for on a on a couple levels the first is depending how much luck and how much skill is in the particular activity that defines the rate of reversion to the mean so there are lots of things for example the markets themselves that have very low correlations for sometimes very high correlations for some time so people have a very difficult time sorting out how rapidly things will revert to the mean so as a consequence we tend to think that you know good things go on forever bad things go on forever and we don't take into consideration the fact that things over time most things over time tend to me in reverse so it's a really subtle concept it's a really tricky concept but obviously very vital in the world of investing and certainly in the world of business as well michael we have to take a quick break but please don't go anywhere and you out there in t.v. land down go anywhere because when we come back michael will be here with more now he's telling us about her mentality and how it can be a driving factor in the asset markets also interesting that today's big deal edward
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harrison and i are discussing income inequality globalization and wage stagnation but before we go here are a look at some your closing numbers the bell stick around. i would rather. 's questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on our
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t.v. question or. welcome back more now with michael novus and michael i just want to dive right in so first and foremost ask what is a p. e. ratio and how can you use it appropriately to measure whether a stock is well valued. definition a.p. multiples of price the stock divided by earnings typically the next twelve months earnings people use and it's a it's basically a proxy or we talked about for shorthand for understanding how much of the expectations are built into the current stock price the tricky thing is really theoretically the value of a company is the present value that cash flows so this is one of those short hands that tries to give us some sense of what that answer looks like again like
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a lot of other shorthand it's got a number of biases and blindspots to be aware of but that's basically what the concept is and all things being equal lower p.s. mean lower expectations higher p.s. higher expectations now i want to tell you about this my producer edward harrison now he claims that he has a business school class a very long day and he was really impressed when you prove the wisdom of crowds using a simple jar of pennies and it's a guessing game i guess so can you tell me a little bit about the wisdom of crowds in this game because he would give me a sneak peek of it absolutely say hi to edward for me by the way. what we do in the very first class a day of classes is actually jar of jelly beans which is same concept and and literally pass it around to the students and i get a little prize for the best guess and i say hey guess somebody beans are in the jar and you know you do this you typically get about fifty or sixty guesses and we find very consistently is the average students if you pick any random student they would be off by about fifty percent but if you take the average of everybody's guess
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they're off anywhere between one and three percent it's just this remarkable result year in year out that the collective is better than any person within the collective quite consistently and so the reason for that that's so interesting of course and why i bring this up the very first day of classes that's a very good model to think about how markets work right so no one really knows any information all the information themselves part of me but when we collectively put it together in this thing called price we tend to get a much more accurate view of what's going on in the world so interesting but i want to see what the bubbles you know if the crowd is wise how do we sometimes get markets that seem overvalued. yeah it's a great question so the key is for the wisdom of crowds to work there are three conditions that have to be in place the first is diversity so we need the underlying people participating to have different points of view independents right so that's one the second is properly functioning aggregation so all the information is coming together for me that was in edwards' class that was me counting or tabulating people's guesses but in markets of course they're just exchanges and the
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third is incentives which is rewards for being right and penalties for being wrong and so when those three things are in place you pretty much get the wisdom of crowds now to your point really interesting booms and busts is when one or more of those conditions are violated by far the most likely to be violated is diversity is rather than us thinking independently or in different ways we correlate our behaviors we all start to think things are going to go to the to the moon we all think things going to go sour forever and it's those extremes that lead to these you know the madness of crowds so so both quizon the crowd or the complex systems approach explains both the wisdom of crowds why markets are really typically tough to beat but also why they periodic we go haywire all fits under the same tent i think quite comfortably michael there's a classic temptation to be a closet momentum investor one who runs and hides when stocks stocks fall and chases stocks when they rise but how much it is herd mentality and factor in driving asset markets. well it's
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a very big factor i mean we know that when you look at factors that momentum is actually a very sick substantial one and one that's been very persistent momentum itself as a trading strategy tends to be very short term oriented but these are really difficult things right i mean there are trading strategies that are built slowly off of momentum right so they're trend following strategies but they have very specific and sort of tough rules about when you should get out of positions when should let them run and so forth and you really do have to stick to the discipline quite closely to have any chance of success i think for the rest of us you know people tend to go with what's going well and but they don't really have discipline in three points in eggs or exit points so the difficult as it is a consequence have a lot of difficulty actually playing these things so it's a momentum is very tricky to play but clearly it's very tempting especially because you get these big moves one way or another which which lead to lots of profits and losses now on the closet momentum investor how do you know that the fund manager you're investing with got to where he is because of his skill and not just because of luck. yeah that was
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a huge question aaron and i think that the fact is because markets are very competitive it means luck actually does play a very big role in the outcomes that we see my answer to that would be to focus as much as you possibly can on your portfolio managers process what is he or she doing in terms of how they're making their decisions how they're approaching their problems with an understanding that a quality process will lead to good outcomes over time but i put a sole focus on outcomes you really can't see exactly how they're making their decisions so maybe i can use a really simple metaphor and you could go for example to the casino and play your cards really intelligently and lose in the short run the same blackjack where you can play them foolishly and when what we want is for you to play your cards intelligently so you have the best chance of success over time so for me the answer to your question which is a really big one is as much as possible try to get after that process and understand how people are making decisions versus only their outcomes i think that's extremely good and valuable but i want to ask you you know
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a lot of people believe that it's getting harder and harder to beat the market so can do less actually making more money. yeah well but the big part of the answer is yes there are two aspects to that answer though one is a lot of activity typically has with it costs right so when you're moving from one manner to another you're trading a lot you're incurring cost in those costs are going to be eating into your returns so it's often the case that you're making a decision or an asset allocation and sitting for the most part on your hands and doing very little like warren buffett has talked about this over the years can be can be a very good strategy so that you know that i think that does make a lot of sense for a lot of people little less activity than than and then by the way it's actually i think it goes against many of our own senses because in most things in life hard work gets you results right so the harder you work the more you get out of it investing is not quite like that working hard in and of itself by trading your activity doesn't really yield good results it's really making quality decisions and for the most part being patient and calm through most environments sounds like you
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just have to work hard to chill out and jump to that good that's not bad i now want to talk about this there was a recent article on behavioral finance and it features tom howard of i think invest and he's also a finance professor whose research showed active managers actually beat indices on their conviction stock picks now how are things diversification is overrated and says the data shows this so what do you make of the concept of diversification as di worse occasion. yeah super interesting question look i mean the fact is that just when you work out the math if you truly believe you have edge so you have a situation where you know more than the market or you think the markets miss price something less diversification some more concentration less diversification makes sense right and that's true by the way anything whether it's playing blackjack or poker hand or what have you any kind of business investment that basic principle certainly holds true now the challenges for most of us as we go through life is we don't really find ourselves in those situations we don't have one hundred percent
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of our time to allocate to find the investment opportunities we're playing at the card table or what have you so as a consequence we're just not in that same situation to be able to concentrate so so the answer is if you could be one of those people i can find the situations that makes enormous amounts of sense but for the rest of us probably some some idea of diversification which precludes us from having to find those situations probably is the most sensible course and especially if you can diversify with you know with a relatively low cost so it depends a little bit on where you are in terms of the spectrum of your ability to find opportunities as to how to best answer that question michael i wish we had more time but we have to go i want to thank you so much this is incredibly interesting stuff and i have to have you back on it very soon now it was like almost as an author of think twice harnessing the power of counter intuition time now for today's big deal.
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big deal time with my partner in crime mr edward harrison and also former student. mr michael moment and now they were talking about income inequality wage stagnation and globalization but the question is wages on the topic of weights a wage stagnation now a working paper by branko milanovic of the world bank took a look at the most recent wave of globalization over the past twenty five years to see who the winners and losers are in terms of global income inequality. now his findings tell the story of rising incomes from the very top but also for the emerging global middle class now they were jets globally the rich are only getting richer but people in the fiftieth and sixtieth percentiles of global income distribution saw serious gains as well so edward we have a graph here that i think is going to kind of clarify what we're talking about now can you explain what we're looking at here so basically what you're looking x. is going up and it's the percentage gain that they made over a twenty year period from one thousand nine hundred to two thousand and eight and
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going across what you see is the different percentiles going from zero to one hundred percent so the numbers that are really large there are in that fifty to sixty percent of that you saw and then also when you talked about the very rich again in the ninety eight to one hundred percent but the numbers are kind a low in fact they're negative in the area around the eightieth percentile and they're very low you know for the very poorest people in the world this is interesting because basically this graph is saying that stagnation incomes in defend the developed world are having helped or are helping to raise basically incomes in the developed world it's kind of interesting. in that he has in the realm of our emerging market of the developed world is helping the developing world now can you explain how this happened is it basically because companies have shipped jobs in manufacturing to emerging markets overseas things like that we see that's the thing is we can only look at the data we can't really know what the
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actual you know what's the process behind the data we can only interpret the data but you know my own personal interpretation of this is is that we are seeing a relative stagnation because in the developed economies people who were in middle class jobs in manufacturing and so forth are now moving up the ladder into jobs that are paying more money at the same time you know a lot of the manufacturing processes have moved overseas and those. for therefore making more money you could look at it as you know there are lower prices in developed economies like the united states for manufactured goods that are manufactured abroad but at the same time there's just not enough movement of the skill for the people who have been displaced in places like the united states western europe so that they actually are seen income gains as well so we can't make a blanket statement that our losses there again or can we we can't make that blanket statement based upon the data we can say that it seems the. same.
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causation in correlation when you see you do. is a correlation but you can't say that one causes the other so it's true you know you have maximum gain for the fifty's and sixty's if the ninety to one hundred percent but you can't say that that's actually causing great percentile the good it's just that they're happening at the same to us it's a coincidence if you or something like that now is one part of the story and this gets lost in the domestic economic battles in the developed world is that the world outside of the western world has a much smaller share of global wealth relative to population now check out this graph this is from a study published in two thousand and seven so the numbers are a bit dated we want to give that disclosure but it gives you a point of reference here now the green bar shows the percentage of population while the great bar which is the amount of global wealth that receives a long story short places with the most population have a much smaller share of global wealth and these are the places that are seen
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increases in wages so what is your take on the situation do you think this means that workers should expect rising wages in the u.s. in the future or near future any time interesting twist i would say it has a lot to do with why we have things like increasing oil prices because all the people in those economies that are getting richer they are actually consuming more resources and as a result we're seeing a uptick in demand and that when you go back to one of our previous conversations that's the case yeah i mean it makes a lot of sense. i wish i had more time to have more questions but we have to come back to the subject and that's all for now but you can see all segments considered in today's show on you tube at you tube dot com sussman by starting with love hearing from you so please check out our facebook page facebook dot com slash boom bust our cheek please tweet us at an aide at edward and it's from all of us there a growing buzz thank you for watching we'll see you next time but i.
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was in the washington well it's a mess that is being stressed getting the latest numbers of the. candidates for office are you going to issues that actually doesn't do too much for ad revenue my own tech agriculture giant piece on a seventy six year old american farmer in the studio fallout do you think this is going to the create or the cia do you think this is what's triggering a race because the largest economy in the world it's also the largest debtor nation
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in still breaking the set is mostly about alternatives to the status quo but when i give you all those points to looking toward the american dream the next day we're just trying to survive it's time for americans and lawmakers are forced to wake up and start talking about the real causes of. well if you're going through a moment like. that i think your. pleasure to have you with us here on our t.v. today i roll researcher.
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on larry king now the charming and talented brit director a lot of the big covers that i got came after i was on the cover of sports illustrated so they were really the ones that kind of created a career for me and then people sort of caught on after that and the people that work in fashion are artists they're incredibly creative they're very talented but when you're the model you're sort of the result of all of their hard work so for me it felt very guilty because you have a tough time getting accepted the fact that there's this beautiful model sports illustrated country that i did and i think i still do but at the same time it's not like i'm going to bite the hand that fed me because it's what open the doors for me plus it's only a mother and brother i hosted the show he watched it every week and got his agent to call my agent isn't that terrible and that's all next on larry king now.
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love the larry king our special guest is brooklyn decker the model turned actor and both were close done campaigns for the gap with victoria's secret and appeared in the towards food bowl didn't glamour just to name a few in twenty ten g. from the sofa mostly company cover girl for sports illustrated swimsuit edition as a night do she's of films like just go with battleship another stars in the new comedy friends with better lives which airs mondays at eight thirty pm eastern on c.b.s. we'll talk about the well dunsford coming in an anchor and she you know you study you started as a model i did it by accident by accident i was discovered in a mall it's such a cliched story but i was discovered in a mall in a mall in a mall in north carolina whole week i was fourteen at the time and i actually it
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was a model who recognized me she thought from modeling turns out we ran track at opposing high schools and we got to talking with our moms and she suggested i get into it and at the time it just seemed like a really great way to save money for school so what do you do it for where do you go fourteen well in charlotte north carolina you shoot for a lot of prom magazines so when you're fourteen that's a very big deal because you haven't got the early high school prom yet so i started locally and then got very lucky really is that's what's required to be successful in a business and i scout was in north carolina visiting and asked to meet me and fred place where i'd done exactly so how will you know if home i started traveling to new york my first time was on my sixteenth birthday. i spent my spring breaks my winter breaks my summer breaks in new york my mom and dad would take off work and come and then i moved full time after i graduate high school i was eighteen eighteen yes how did you get that wonderful first. in the name of my birth do you
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love it oh i just first name in the way that you would like i actually end up living in brooklyn but i was named after a horse called brook my mom and i love the name and my dad with a terrible sense of humor as a joke suggested brooklyn so i got brooklyn and they had never been to brooklyn growing up in north carolina it was just a very strange name and ended up working from a job going to do you know anyone else new books in the back rooms son is named brooklyn really i think their oldest son yeah so he's the only other person and i've written a note to him before do you call yourself a supermodel no no recently said that you were not a good model and when i mean i it's a really well kept secret that i was actually not that successful a model. while i sports illustrated was one of the most loyal clients to me and they're they're definitely the ones that put me on the map but i was just it so sort of you work for
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a glamour and good tori's you could break them up because you can but victoria's secret i think the only hair in me twice and then never again and i never want to runway show a lot of the big covers that i got came after i was on the cover of sports illustrated so they were really the ones that kind of created a career for me and then people sort of caught on after them and at that point i had started in movies and then it kind of stepped away from modeling but why were you not a good model i would go for months without working truly i would i would get fired from jobs all the time i think it's because. i think truly i think at the time when i came onto the scene it was two thousand and five when i started full time and it was very we had a very big eastern european and brazilian influence in the business and this was before the days of the kate upton is in the christie teagan is and the miranda kerr has these really beautiful curvaceous bodies this was a time when if you looked like a hanger you were successful in that that was just not me at all so what are you sure you're another beautiful body well thank you i feel like i'm very calm told my body but at the time it's just not with the business demanded they wanted no curves
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very stick thin they wanted that sort of ray all very androgynous body which is whole goal of old absolutely and it's beautiful but it's not what i had at the time so i didn't work a lot did you enjoy modeling and it seems to be on with the board and it is it is now coming from a person who had never traveled outside the country i didn't have a passport for me it was a wonderful way to see the world and to travel and i got to go to the most incredible places in the people that work in fashion are artists they're incredibly creative the very talented but when you're the model you're sort of the result of all of their hard work so you show up once they've invested months in this photo shoot and they're just pinning things on you so for me it felt very. good to be paid should you be very patient and i'm not going to have a lot of people tugging and pulling and it was just a very you know you don't it's you're kind of an on call employee did you ever did
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run we know why wouldn't you be asked to do because i didn't fit the body's hype at the time and i think also i think what happened is at the time it was very chic to be cool and friendliness was not something that was widely accepted at the time and again it's all it has it's up and flows it's you know it goes through the ups and downs and at the time my personality i think was a little too big for modeling how to be difficult young beautiful very young beautiful thrust into new york scene but the most. was it too much too soon or did you handle the world i feel like i handled it well considering what i could have gotten into i think. you know i didn't have a i handled it well but i also didn't i wasn't social at another lot of friends i didn't go out all the time i didn't i probably could have had more fun than i did i probably could've met more people than i did you think through the magazine big club being no i sort of close myself off so for me i think i stayed out of trouble
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but i don't know that i necessarily took advantage of all the assets that the business has because it does have really incredible aspects to your parents had no problem with that i think they had a problem with that but i think it's so funny my mom always says with me my brother and my brother was definitely the rebellious one in the family and so my mom always says that as a parent you never want your eight year old daughter to move to new york alone to model is it's scary but she says as a parent you kind of know your kids and you know the kids that can handle it and you know the kids that were probably going to a lot of trouble and i was sort of a goody goody in school growing up and so i don't think my parents feared me moving their start in sports illustrated help them i went to a casting. it was my first week in new york city i went to a casting and funny enough i was on my way home from the casting because they had yet to really learn the subway system i got lost in it up in queens called my agency crying because i had no idea where i was and they said well you better sit
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down and they said that sports illustrated called that day and booked me to shoot with them so as a casting and again it's just it's luck where you first saw you on the cover right no i i was on the cover my fifth year. it's who shoots from beaches and places so more correct where were you bush to travel out we did my first time leaving the country was with sports illustrated and we went to colombia going to cart to hand which is beautiful we shot in arizona we shot in the maldives which is where my cover took place. we shot it we went to israel so the they take you to really special places you argue israel it was incredible tel aviv so get a beauty oh my goodness the people were incredible there was one shot we were actually in the ocean and there was a man there letting his horse cool off there were all these horses in the water just cooling off and so we went up to the sky and asked him to capitulate this horse and here i am and i'm thinking where in tel aviv in the ocean with
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a random horse to approach when it was really really going to do paid a lot more when this it's over. i don't you're not you don't get paid to do what illustrated i don't know if i'm allowed to say that road good you don't because so in fashion the editorials if you shooting for the vote the glamorous the sports illustrated's of the world it's considered really good for your career so it's you're lucky to be a part of that family about publication and so you don't get paid for those jobs but it's a great career but it's an incredible career and it's not bad for sports those it's a good it's costing a lot they got to fly it cost them a lot of hotels and flights out of the acting thing happened so i moved to new york at eighteen and all my friends were in college i was really missing school i really wanted to go to college and again this whole time i thought i would just be paying for school so the whole plan was to go back to school. and so my agent actually suggested that i study acting because it was something i could take with me i could take scripts with me so i started studying acting you know i do rory did i like to
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re i started reading tennessee williams and i had studied in english class but i started reading it from an actor's perspective and i think that was really the first thing that. excited. i mean got brilliant player incredible the first play i think was the glass menagerie that i read with one act when you do is word play the word sing for them so could you do it i mean in his words are so really and elegant and so i yeah that's when i started and i started auditioning did you have a tough time getting accepted the fact that his is beautiful models sports illustrated and she asked you know the bit and yeah i think you know but at the same i did and i think i still do but at the same time it's not like i'm going to buy they have the fed me because that's what open the doors for me i think initially producers and directors and casting directors saw me or to meetings with me because they have developed somewhat of a name in the modeling side of things so while i think people are deathly hesitant at first it opened doors but you are you you you when you first screen appearances
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with jennifer aniston and out of an adam sandler yes or. in the what was it go with it yet jeff fun doing it i loved it we were in who i wish on hawaii for two months i'm a huge fan of both of them so when that's your first film experience it's incredible it's a little scary because it's your mistakes are kind of being seen on a really massive needed break great kind of about the sitcom told me no friends it was so it was terrible of us so i love comedy and it's something that i feel really comfortable and i started the pilot season was. and i started reading scripts and this particular script comment i because i liked the idea that friends about our lives you're always going to be on the top or on the bottom it's this is my cycle and i like the idea of having these great characters that kind of hit rock bottom so i jules jules is the person i wish i was she is incredibly optimistic she has this effervescent personality she is open and loving
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and warm and probably a little too naive for own good but she's the kind of person that sparkles and butterflies everywhere she's the friend who i don't know if you have this friend but every person that they bring home is the one and she's not her the one and gets engaged to this man after six weeks before a live audience yes. yes it was terrifying at first because it's like theater and it's also when you're filming a television show typically is you know they you can mess up or you can improv and they just want the cameras it's no big deal especially now in a digital age and with a live audience you mess up a line in the bells ringing in the lights come up in the audience has to readjust and so it's a much bigger thing the pressure is definitely greater there but the audience is a really great litmus test whether you like comedies which. i don't know if it's because i grew up watching comedies i don't know if it's that my family is really funky and funny so that's just something i grew up around but it's different something i feel comfortable and i do not break up i do you do i do break i am the
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first one in my cast to break yeah i need to work on that actually because i do it when people especially dancing people seeing people dance gets me every time so they have to stop they have to stop that terrible or they'll just take the camera off of me because they see me shaking their biggest thing they ask me they say for going to laugh just don't shake you know don't do the shoulder thing because they'll see it on camera so i try to hide it what was it tough to be the past your blocks you know the you know what i mean yeah yeah i think so but i also you know i it to be honest i don't i read interviews with people who are beautiful and they say that it's not fair that they're not cast in great roles because of their looks and i understand that and i think that people i am cast for that a lot and i think a lot of the roles i've played have that has been the main focus but i again it's opened so many doors for me that it's really hard really primo to think yeah i can
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i just i don't really are not i don't really for ugly well i don't i doesn't you know don't bring the looks things it's i didn't earn it my parents gave it to me you know i didn't work hard to become pretty so they gave it to me and now it's my job to work hard and earn it the show is friends with better lives it is mondays eight thirty eastern on c b s f of the bridge brooklyn talks about her love for the university of california of co of north carolina are you going to get you know her marriage to the former u.s. open champion as world don't think it will. the flemish play.
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well you grew up in north carolina did brooklyn decker so you could have been a duke than i did at an n.c. state fair to be in wake forest fans why did you choose to go on. i don't know why you chose carolina i when you grew up in north carolina you kind of pick your blue what city was you i grew up in mathews outside of charlotte and when anyone could have been anyone and i just distinctly remember my first game i think they were playing florida i went to chapel hill and it was when my dorothy was coaching which is not the best time for our u.n.c. basle history and i remember them losing it and the fans just being so dedicated and so committed and going wild for the team regardless and i just fell in love with them then you become a freak friend though you follow them i am a fan yes i try to go to am i've been to a few and to do games i try to go to a game a year if i can but i am i'm a i'm a big fan i was disappointed this year but they always come well you know they're
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always a good thing yes you like other sports i do you know in north carolina you grow up watching sports and when i was in elementary school we got the panthers franchise so is a very big deal for carolina jordan corrects they will he's about bach out of the turn out of work and you know i got you know a lot of you direct good good team we have grades from seattle so i made the playoffs this year that's right they sure did this was probably their best year and we love. i am i'm a big panther phantom again it's just i think i lived in north carolina during a very pivotal time it's the hornets last and then we got them back in the panthers came in so it was a good sports reporting to write and yes i did i used to do football picks with doctors and you for sports illustrated it was only or you may then be rather it was terrible story terrible it's terrible already playing poker here i would have been second best of us but yes he used to be a huge poker player he still plays when he can but when i hosted the show he
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watched it every week and got his agent to call my agent isn't that terrible an agent declare you know so say what well they call them they just said do you know this person as he is a fan of your show and would like to meet you and i thought it was very weird sort of call him back for five months and again i was kind of antisocial in new york so finally my agent said you should try to make friends and you should call this guy back you had to get him out yes more or less more like you were trying to get to him i was yes we started talking on the phone and then we met in new york and along was the courtship. are very long we were engaged in under a year were you a tennis fan before that not at all not at all i my first match was watching him play when we were dating. he he knows quit right here has retired yes so what does indeed do he drinks
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a lot of wine now which is really fun for me that whole moment i know you have a beautiful house and we yes we're very lucky but we he works for fox sports one now and has a show commentating and reporting and so now he discusses sports it's a command stream he talks about sports every night and loves it's now he's kind of on your side of things he was always the the figure in tennis a great tennis player but he was never lived the big the social with you remember his person you didn't yell at the referee really. he had a temper that he let show on the court occasionally but i think that's i think that's what made him real and fun to watch i liked watching him because he he he was emotional you know when he was he was a very very nice study he was a very good player he was a great all facets of the game yes he was a very strong player and he loved tennis and still loves tennis but.
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i think he's enjoying retirement a lot do you go to matches i did i did we were when he was playing i did i would try to go to all the grand slams and yeah i would go there like marriage i love it now what about a family you sound like my mom. i love kids and i want kids others don't know when that will happen. going to wait a while i don't know i don't know maybe not maybe i don't know what it was andy said i think we're both so we live in austin texas we work in l.a. you have a home here in beverly hills we do and so so we're over most of the times austin austin's home yeah so we're not working we go home and i love austin i think the idea of bringing up kids in a crazy and consistent life is a little nerve racking so that's probably a huge factor is the logistics behind having a if he's going to be a fox sports l.a. yes you have to be here to shoot the show yes when you were in austin how does use
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times work we so my show shoots it shot for this year seven months from pilot to the wrap of the season so i was out here pretty full time and we the great thing about television is that and you don't have the luxury that we have three weeks on one week off exactly so we are very lucky that i can fly home every three weeks and go home to austin and then when i'm off i go home so i often thursday austin because that's randy grew up first off and secondly i love graham north carolina i love the idea of being in nature and austin provides all that it's going to do so i do if you're a divine social media my producer just told me you don't take this of too seriously i don't either we have a few photos from your instagram account we'd like you to explain the art what it what what the hell is out yes i'm so happy you're seeing this larry is very exciting i did
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a commercial where i was supposed to be the high school version of myself so that's me with braces and fake bangs but everything else is me that's me with no makeup a little bit scary but oh what is this one this is me this i don't know why i post these pictures this is me getting my teeth leaved it's a terrible experience i don't recommend it to anybody but i looked it was very hannibal lector so i had to take a picture and of course are you going blow to. each you keep in mind just told me i should try it i've never done it it was his job to get her what is best you ask me yes classic right there what is that seems what is so my friend whitney who is next to me we love costumes and we make all our friends dress up and have theme parties and so we had one mall at night and i looked like such a boy that you do i do right that is not a sex symbol it's no that's not what if we didn't it's really just to give it what would have welcomed i would love i like really bad faces so i'd make you do a funny face you have to cross your eyes or you know give yourself lessons often
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yeah. we have some social media questions for you ok you are a little weird that's because you're. right she said knobs on facebook if you weren't a model or an actress she would you would why i wanted to be a very veterinarian growing up i've gotten two cats. so i would i think i'd be doing that eight three mean mean is your zero seven on twitter wants to know does andy let you win when you play tennis i don't play because i think every athlete is way too competitive to let anyone else when so where are you living i just that's his thing i cheer going to live people be richard on the street they want to be gin to me which is exactly right that's of the. sergeant on twitter wants to know what's your favorite pastime my favorite pastime hiking i like being in the woods oh you know i have chrissy teigen visit our best friends hi brooklyn but. have you heard of ten years. or is it is do you know anyone with. do you find them
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to be an attractive woman a mate ok what is the pinger and who is she crazy is one of my best friends. she is an excellent tweeter by the way and timbers are something that i have and they are talking or so when you have really long crooked toes we call them tinkers and so my friends always make fun of my feet so she dance with them as you display it but their robes teenagers they're like long they look like this. better so and the swimsuit was but they don't show you feet no my cover there are no feet and that was intentional you have only three terrible for a man with a foot fetish would not be able to hate night off. of singers thank you christine ok we play a little game of you only knew i just brought a question who's a first boy you have a kissed and derek studs were in north go north carolina i was twelve i was
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a middle school man and whatever have a man. i don't know actually i have no idea where did you kiss and where were you we were at this thing called middle school man as it's a dance for middle schoolers and we were right on the dance floor was he cute he was very clear your first car ninety one v.w. cabrio. love that car you deserted on an island what three things you want to bring probably my husband my two dogs favorite tennis major. the wimbledon it's so iconic favorite acts north carolina best of all star. i really love a shot mccance he would ever play return as major to attend to attend a u.s. open because it's in new york and it's someone i work for sells it's beautiful new legs pet peeve. biggest pet peeve would have to be gossiping me to. a hated to. city with the best fashion colter.
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probably i mean new york i lived in new york it's just yeah there's no city up to the ads for it would give your blood night would you worry about. what keeps me up at night i would have to say when i'm going to be employed next it's not selfish as that every actor has that every actor has that you just want to be employed you don't see a script that's nervous that's exactly right your song currently playing on repeat on your i bet. i would have been there. and one more as soon tupelo honey the best tennis stroke you don't play i guess the serve proudest accomplishment proudest accomplishment would have to be i mean my family my parents my brother my whole family is not some accomplishment i just favor tennis player beside us from. i would have to say marty fisher james boy they're american guys and i just love
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something no one knows about. something no one knows about me is that. i can i used to play i played the violin for seven years. you could i when i played i don't and i haven't played in a long time that you wanted to enter there's any thank you very. very huge thanks to the lovely and charming brooklyn decker with the great first name of the beautiful television joining us make sure to tune into her new show friends with better lives it airs mondays that eight thirty pm eastern time on c.b.s. and as always you can find me on twitter with kings things c.n.n. .
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old. technology innovation all the developments from around russia. the future covered. i'm the president and i think a society that case i think corporation kind of can get to consume because you can do. the bank trying to get all them all about money and i'm actually sick for politicians writing the laws and regulations to tax corporate bankers. there's just too much is a society. that. he sends our forces. in the finish line of the marathon.
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let. me. play. what is up folks i'm having martin and this is breaking the set so i woke up this morning to her if they can use that u.s. drone that killed yet another six human beings and yemen oh i'm sorry did i say human beings i meant al qaeda militants all apparently worthy of execution without trial and even though the obama administration touts the waning down of its drone war this latest strike comes on the heels of one of the deadliest attacks of drone strikes since the initiation of the program yes easter weekend some multiple strikes in yemen that left over fifty five people dead according the a.p. this ongoing massacres sponsored by our tax dollars that americans remain largely
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in phase by killer robots that terrorize people in the middle east on a weekly basis or perhaps the apathy over this issue would and if americans came face to face with similar unmanned machines here at home that also have deadly potential which is exactly what happened when a fifty percent jet near the collided with a drone over tallahassee florida last week yes williams of the federal aviation administration was forced to address this near deadly disaster in a highlight of the danger posed by drones in u.s. skies saying quote the risk for a small unmanned aircraft system to be ingested in the passenger airline engine is very real and considering that according to the electronic frontier foundation there will be thirty thousand commercial drones in u.s. skies by two thousand and twenty and that dangers point. used to multiply so whether we're talking about predator drones executing civilians in the middle east or unmanned aircraft and managing american skylines drones are becoming increasingly dangerous for all of us on the ground and in the sky so if you have the drone industrial complex is getting out of control and join me you come to the
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right place let's break the set. the. police say at least very hard to take it. lightly that he ever had sex with that hurt that they're looking. at least. so finally good news to report guys i'm not being sarcastic here and
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a huge victory for the people the state of vermont just passed the nation's very first law requiring the labeling of genetically modified organisms or g m o's vermont governor peter shumlin signed the bill into law last thursday and said in a statement we believe we have a right to know what's in the food we buy this is a significant step in the fight for transparency of the food americans consume considering the legislation has failed time and time again as you can see on this map california and washington voters both attended to pass ballot initiatives on the matter and were unsuccessful connecticut and maine on the other hand did pass legislation but it's contingent on multiple other states to pass the requirement before their own go to in effect and the states and blue are all ones considering similar legislation according to a recent report by the council for agricultural science and technology but the biggest barrier to getting these bills passed has been the stranglehold of the political process for months santo and other giant ag corporations that either invested millions of dollars to muddy the debate or our right threaten to sue
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states considering labeling legislation another firm. has taken the leap the state is expecting the wrath of months santo on its doorstep a month state attorney general bill sorrell told vermont public radio that he would be very surprised if the state isn't sued which is why the bill also set up a one point five million dollar legal defense fund to prepare for retaliation from monsanto of course the defenders of the industry are still propagating the myth that consumers will ultimately lose by causing food prices to rise but that argument doesn't hold much water considering all that would need to be done as a one time repackaging fee for the industry to manufacture their products and despite this enormous win on the east coast america as a whole is behind the curve on the issue almost every other industrialized country in the world take a precautionary measures and have already required mandatory labeling or outright ban g.m. those from the respective countries here in the u.s. however monsanto alone controls eighty percent of the corn ninety three percent of
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the soy both these g.m.o. components make up the base of almost every processed food item in this country and when pooled americans overwhelmingly want labeling just last year a new york times study found that ninety three percent of people in the u.s. support it. look whether or not you agree with harms associated with g.m.o. as i think all of us can agree with the fact that every consumer deserves the right to know what they're eating so let's build the momentum start to take back ownership of our rights our lives and our bodies so big congrats to vermont for leading the charge and setting an example for the rest of the country. guys last week a miracle took place in congress the house intelligence and judiciary committees just passed the usa freedom act a bill known for its indorsement from top proponents of n.s.a. reform including i say whistleblower himself edward snowden that's right
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a bill with one hundred fifty bipartisan co-sponsors and no legislative. rivals has emerged in the house position to lead to true reform of the n.s.a. but of course like every reform bill passed in congress the so-called victory is really just a giant smokescreen and fact although snowden snowden excuse me initially endorsed the bill last week the house judiciary committee gutted much of its original language and replaced it with much weaker reforms in fact noted and as a apologists representative mike rogers voted for the bill himself which should be enough to tell you how much reform this bill is actually pushing and sort of break down the co-option of the usa freedom act and what it means in this mantle the spine go to our to political commentator sam sachs sam any bill that has the word of freedom and freedom in it we should trust right we've learned from the patriot act i mean no seriously let's start with what the bill started off as what that or it's not going to actually endorsed to what it's become today but although the original usa freedom act it was introduced in the senate and it was a version introduced in the house came as
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a surprise to civil libertarians and privacy advocates who was unusually strong for what they expected congress was going to do especially people who think that the n.s.a. is impervious to reform at this point. it included ending the n.s.a.'s bulk collection of telephone records that included a prohibition on the back door salute search loophole this is what senator ron wyden warned the n.s.a. was doing how they were spying on americans by going into these databases that had inadvertently collected americans communications into that it also included a bunch of new reporting requirements to require the government transparency of these programs to reveal how many people are caught up in their sort of surveillance machine here and it garnered the support of edward snowden just a week and a half ago we accepted the right now our prize here in washington d.c. via video link and said we need to support the usa freedom act so what happened is the judiciary committee says all right we're going to take action on the freedom freedom act were to pass out of committee but what happens on the committee is that they don't have enough votes to pass it as is so they completely reworked the bill
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they got it they replace it with a new language they stripped out that prohibition on backdoor search lou. polls they take out a bunch of the reporting requirements and they add some vague language when it comes to undoing the telephone call records bulk collection program what should really have reporters concerned is that this new usa freedom act that was weakened by the judiciary committee was immediately passed then by the house intelligence committee mike rogers who you mentioned he dumped his own n.s.a. bill which many thought was a goody bag for the innocent and threw his support now behind this usa freedom act so in less than two weeks you have mike rogers supporting a bill that edward snowden supported once it shows how that bill changed over the course of two weeks amazing at thanks for breaking that down and let's talk about the all collection of data because that's really the crux of this issue here sam supporters of the new bill claim that it will limit and as ability to collect and bulk data and then there's also opponents of the bill who are saying it actually might give the n.s.a. more power and the telecom industry more power to break that down so this bill does
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what the president the president obama asked for earlier this year and that's move the collection of these call records out of the hands of the n.s.a. and to the telecoms and then requiring the n.s.a. to read to obtain legal orders to access this database of call records americans call records and so the bill does do that there's some vagaries over how broad the n.s.a. can be when requesting these records and us to be specific selector on an entity of course all this stuff is going to be determined by the secret court we've seen how the secret courts have. their odd curious definitions of certain words that you and i take to be common sense meetings they've stretch them out to more where they basically mean nothing and the other thing about bulk collection the n.s.a. says they have a strange definition of bulk collection they basically say that the call records program in which they were scooping up all americans call records and hold even this database is they said that that was bulk collection because they weren't using any selectors they were just vacuuming up these call records another program where
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the n.s.a. goes and takes up internet try. straight from the fiberoptic cables around the world using certain selector terms they might take in fifty six thousand americans communications and that's a number of the the pfizer court found that fifty six thousand americans have their e-mails collected annually inadvertently by the n.s.a. the usa doesn't consider that bulk collection we might say fifty six thousand people are getting scooped up that sounds like bulk collection but since there is says they were using the village selector abroad selector they're not considering it and if i force and that got illegal under this bill right i mean it's as vague generalities like what it what it what exactly is bulk collection according to government according to n.s.a. apologise like mike rogers we kind of did stay away from that but it also doesn't address the blanket spying on other countries vast populations around the world foreign leaders i mean all these things is this new bill just a giant ploy to co-opt the original movement against the n.s.a. and to basically rewind it rewrite it excuse me with the american public none the
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wiser because we're all here same thing in a edward snowden in dorset i guess we should too from the get go from from the time these disclosures started happening and it looked everyone looked toward congress to see what they were going to do about it the agency's biggest defenders senator dianne feinstein the chair of the senate intelligence committee and chairman mike rogers the chair of the house intelligence committee have been trying to hijack the reform effort and move legislation that will actually codified a lot of the mrs worst abuses and dianne feinstein did exactly that in a bill that passed out of her committee last year so i would be extremely concerned if i was going to say reform or that here is a bill that i thought was a strong reform effort in the usa bring about this now being supported by mike rogers who's put his motives on the table along with dianne feinstein from the get go of all this of course and really what it is to me is that just like every other thing that's on the table health care exciter where there's a giant compromise and of course maybe some could argue it's better than the status quo but where do we go from here it seems like we're giving up a lot to let this go through i don't have time to play this clip but it's been all
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over the news of course and these conspiracy theories about him. about snowden being a russian agent or russian spy is continue to propagate why are they. well it helps the government's case i mean the government's trying to make a case that edward snowden deserves to be in jail for the rest of his life right now and at the same time we're seeing members of congress say that what he did was the right thing and we've seen the laws introduced to do that we've seen president obama proposed reforms in the se we've seen judges say that this program and constitutional we're seeing edward snowden we're winning rewards basically every week so the government's losing that battle so they can say that he's a russian spy of some sort or a chinese spy and of course all these claims are citing anonymous government officials nobody is presenting any evidence whatsoever to back these claims up and everyone should take them. pretty as a grain of salt to use a cliche because this this is the same these are the same people who said that this sort of spying wasn't going on to begin with in the first place is the same people ridicule conspiracy theories at their lambasting the net but this no not hash tag
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saying that's not a you know spy it's unbelievable thanks for breaking down all of that santa socks appreciate it you guys come out to talk about a cover up at the v.a. that's killing american veterans stick around. please.
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her. think it's not. just that you know the premise is the only industry specifically mention of the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy albus. well. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and across several we've been hijacked why handful of friends dash and the corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers once all just my job market and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world we go beyond identifying the problem. rational
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debate and real discussion critical issues facing are. you ready to join the movement then welcome to the big picture. and nowhere is that more apparent than at the veterans administration hospitals despite an annual budget of one hundred fifty billion dollars v.a. hospitals are becoming torrijos for dilapidated facilities corrupt compensation and most significantly absurdly long benefits and medical claim backlogs although the v.a. has reduced its benefits backlog from nearly nine hundred thousand claims in two thousand and twelve to around five hundred eighty five thousand today a report by the afghanistan veterans of america from earlier this year found these backlogs have become a bureaucratic nightmare and have stagnated once again last veteran's day vietnam war veteran and peace activist mike merced so came to the show to discuss why medical backlogs are so dangerous for the hundreds of thousands of veterans
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dependent on government medical care. even though today they're having trouble getting good to the health care system whether it's the military health care system or the v.a. system i mean we've heard stories of veterans having to wait six eight ten months to be able to make an appointment with the mayor. a health professional and if you're feeling suicidal or homicidal or very depressed i mean you need help you right away you can't wait eighteen months to see someone and that's one of the things that the v.a. needs to deal with i think they're slowly improving but they still have a quite a ways to go. indeed the v.a. does have a long way to go over the past few weeks new revelations emerging from a congressional investigation into the v.a. demonstrates at the agency is moving in a wrong and potentially illegal direction according to multiple whistleblowers at least forty veterans have died waiting to be seen by phoenix v.a. doctors last month dr sam foote a twenty four year old employee of the phoenix v.a. told c.n.n. these patients were not only waiting up to twenty one months to be seen by medical
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staff but that the agency did everything in its power to cover up these deadly long wait times as internal e-mails obtained by c.n.n. back up for its claims and shows that the phoenix v.a. actually created a secret waiting list which was hidden from the national v.a. here in d.c. in order make it appear that the phoenix branch was reducing backlogs and improving wait times officials sent out a sham list hiding the names of up to sixteen hundred veterans that had not yet been treated according to foot officials told their staff not to save a public digital copy of a point in requests so that the records were completely hidden from washington and this deadly wait list cover up does not appear to be only confined to phoenix since investigation began both the texas and colorado v.a. systems have come under fire for conducting the same illegal behavior. essentially what this means is that we have no idea what the real backlogs numbers are or how many veterans have died due to the agency's criminal negligence so perhaps it's
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time to update the old slogan to support our troops when it's time to sell war and once they're written with physical and mental disability completely forget about them but hey that might be a little too long for a bumper sticker. rather already is one of those poetic and thought provoking artists in hip hop today here's a clip from a song that stirred up quite a bit of controversy called morning america.
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as a politically charged rapper nearly all of all these music carries a similar punch all the dreamy last month but i loved what he had to say so much that i decided to play it again for you i started by asking him what he's mourning in the song. morning lovelessness morning disconnection that people have collectively and individually with our own humanity the fact that we have been taught and trained over the centuries that we've had this american project an experiment with democracy and all forms of domination the way that we've been encouraged and trained to disconnect with our humanity and lower the stock on humanity and instead honor and respect you know things like membership in a racial group or having a certain amount of money or having a certain status and so you know our value in humanity is very very low and we're
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disconnected from ourselves and from each other i couldn't agree more i want to read our audience some of my favorite lyrics from an especially great song of yours called uncle sam god damn it says king of where the wild things are daddy's proud of the roman empire done passed it down imported and tortured a work force and never heal the wounds or shut the curse off now the grown up goliath nation holding up auditions for the part of david all the what traits of the roman empire do you see the us adopting and is there even a room for a david when in this nation. well in terms of what i see of you know all forms of domination you know the normalizing of certain cultural norms and. you know normalizing greed making virtue out of like greed and like nationalism and mike you know exceptionalism and being exclusive it's you know. in terms of david i think that david still always has
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a chance but it's really a matter of faith. some would put would choose to use the term hope and i think. they're connected i think that anytime that we're in a situation i personally i'm a person you know spiritual religious faith but all of us who get up and do the fight the good fight every day do so with the idea that if we're willing to sacrifice that there is some force of justice out there universal justice that does care about us and that does have power whether we see that as being the divine the creator or just the collective power of human beings working in tandem whose hearts are aligned with one another you know i think that it does require something more than just the material reality but i think david always has a chance to win and when good things have been done it's never been the majority of people that have done it it's always been a small but really dedicated and really you know disciplined loving group of people that have changed the world this song caused a lot of backlash were you surprised with how it was received i was because i was
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also an independent artist i came up without a big record label i'm on a label called rhymesayers entertainment which is one of the first you know in the rap labels to carve out our own main. you know thanks to people like atmosphere groups like atmosphere and so that was simultaneously my breakout moment where i've been doing all this underground work and suddenly i'm invited to be on conan o'brien and i'm on billboard and i'm in rolling stone and all these all these different accolades but at the same time the song that brought me out was. and so it was interesting dichotomy of people opening the door but also closing it so i was contacted first by the department of homeland security and had to give them all my information they actually held some money for me that i needed to pay the people that were traveling and working with me so i gave them all of this information and basically gave them verbal confirmation that they've been tracking me and so it's difficult for me to travel to the middle east after apply for visas well in advance
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. you know i've been approached by individuals who are. pretty sure are agents of some kind or just fact gathering kind of people checking in with me from time to time and also that year i was scheduled to do a big tour that was sponsored by verizon wireless and they actually removed me from that tour right around the time that don't cause them got the video hit a million views and it was one of the first independent rad videos on you tube to do that. so it was this interesting thing of doors opening as they were opening other doors were closing but you know this is been the history of political music. of course send a message that so many are dying to hear because they don't get in the mainstream and of course being shut out by the corporatization of the industry talk about your faith i mean most of ten year olds are concerned with stealing their parents' liquor and taking joy rides you on the other hand converting to islam when you were fifteen what was going on at that time in your life that drove you to brace
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religion. was a it was a number of different things all converging at the same time in terms of the way that i understand spirituality and really all of our spirituality is one and this is what i learned from islam is that everybody with a deep desire to align themselves with the loving just you know divine all of us essentially are in a state of islam or submitting our will returning to our original nature to be loving it's a be connected to be merciful and to stand up for what's right so the way that i understood my spirituality aligned with islam really well but then also i was in the inner city in a violent you know inner city situation and people in the black community have always had a great deal of respect for islam as many as thirty percent of the africans who were enslaved and brought to this country were coming from north and west africa there was great traditions of mali and it's about and you know ghana and so the
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islam has always had a deep resonance in the african-american community which are the people who. to me and taught me how to live and interpreted the world for me and so you know in hip hop i've always had that that kind of blended reality for me and always have encouraged me to to be my best and my most connected to the community and you know to this love and mercy and in two thousand and eight you made the pilgrimage to mecca took a lot of time off and came back with it with an amazing album how did that experience help influence your work as a debate in the muslim world about music and how it should be used and you know the ways the effects that it can have the influence it could have and i think everybody really realizes that it's a very very powerful thing that can be a powerful force for good but it can also you know be a powerful force for disconnection and for lovelessness and so i went to mecca and
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part of what i was was looking for was to settle this in my own heart and so my prayer was that if if i'm doing harm with this music to myself or to others or to my community then let me know that this is my prayer for the divine you said that morning america was put out as a call to action and why is right now the time for people to come agents of change when i think that those of us who have had privilege for a long time whether it's race class or economic you know those of us that have had this privilege for so long are starting to realize that the game is rigged in the world isn't fair our privilege is losing us we're being introduced to the world as it is for those without these privileges and so now it's time for us to join in the movement not to try to lead our own but to join the world to join the global community to get us all free and absolutely is brother ali amazing to have you on thank you so much. that's our show you guys on the set all over again.
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did you know the price is the only industry specifically mention in the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy which recall for us. well i'm. going to go on i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going now and we go beyond identifying a problem you're trying to rational debate a real discussion critical issues facing america in my book ready to join the movement then welcome to the big three. go on to our man at washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture. right now the obama
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administration is hard at work preparing to push for the team to be yet another so-called free trade deal that most americans don't have a clue about what's going on behind closed doors and what would the tepee mean for you and for me also right now nearly fifty million americans are living below the poverty line struggling to survive day to day what if i told you that we have the power to lift all of those americans out of poverty and ensure that everyone has a chance except about us isn't it time for a basic income in america and back in fourteen ninety two columbus arrived on the island of hispaniola and all but wiped out the native timing of people hundreds of years later only american settlers began waging countless wars and native americans what drove both of these historic events and what does that have to do with clive and one thing.
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you need to know this right now the obama. a administration is negotiating the biggest trade deal in human history if approved the trans-pacific partnership or t p p for short would create a whole new set of rules regulating the economies of twelve countries on four different continents while t p p is its official acronym because it's a deal that involves southern hemisphere asian countries as well as us and others i prefer instead of tepee to call it the southern hemisphere an asian free trade agreement or shaft because shaft or the t p p is being negotiated almost entirely in secret don't know a lot about it and what we do know comes almost entirely from leaks and according to those leaks the t p p or shaft would give big pharmaceutical companies virtual monopoly patent power it would let corporations sue countries in international
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courts over regulations of those corporations don't like and it would gut american and byron mental and financial rules that t p p chef to is a huge deal type of story about which the media should be informing the american people and there's the problem almost no one in the mainstream media is talking about creating a media matters for america during one six month period between august two thousand and thirteen and february two thousand and fourteen only one nightly in the network news show and that was the p.b.s. news hour mentioned the trade deal and they only mentioned it once and that one mention occurred sensual essentially as a plug for the t p p shaft when a scholar from a right wing d.c. think tank said that signing out of the t p p was essential for improving relations with asian nations. cable news did a little better when it comes to the p.p. coverage fox so-called news had no mentions c.n.n. talked about it once and m.s.m. b.c. talked about it thirty two times but those thirty two mentions were mostly on one
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show that show and because emmis n.b.c. is only available by premium subscription is a very good chance most americans never watched and talk about the t.p. shift course the only thing worse than not talking about the shaft it like t.v. news networks have been doing is talking about it in a misleading way and that's exactly what most mainstream newspapers have been doing fairness and accuracy in reporting recently looked into t t p p shafter coverage of two of the country's most influential newspapers the new york times and washington post and found that on the rare occasions the papers covered t. p. p. over the last year the sources they quoted tilted heavily in favor of the treaty. total media blackout on actually critical coverage of the shaft is a story in and of itself here we are about to enter a once in a generation economy changing free trade deal and the people who are supposed to be telling us the truth are either silent or on the side of the giant multinational
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corporations americans deserve to know what their government and big business are doing together behind closed doors and it's outrageous that the mainstream media doesn't seem to think this is true when it comes to the t.p. peter shafting especially now as we're learning it could along with its european counterpart the t t i p undermine food safety for hundreds of millions of americans . joining me now to more talk more about the p.p. and chapter and the threat it poses to our food system are alexis bob mair political director at the organic consumers association and patty lovera assistant director of food and water watch the likes of patty alexis patty great to have you with us i lived in germany for year i said bodies have been bad and i think they'd made you think if that's the american. default injury in any case well. in fact welcome back you've been here before haven't you know about and so patty i thought
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the p.p. is your european counterpart the t t i p the first i'm curious if either of you like my name the southern hemisphere asian free trade agreement we should all start using it you know it's ok to start talking about it. because i'm trying to get everybody to you know steal that and go with it you know and so it was the day that it appears and that we're told. they have to care have to show after of course for the first i mean how. i thought these things were just about trade war what does this have do with roots it well actually it's as much as it has to do about the volume of food and tariffs and taxes on trade it's almost more to do with letting companies multinational. they want to move these goods from the cheapest place to somewhere else knock down regulations they think are a perrier so you'll see a lot of terminology about harmonization of standards and regulatory coherence and it's really an excuse for another way that they can challenge safeguards and standards that we have for consumer protections or regulating
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a bank or whatever it is it's really the way they're going to race to the bottom so harmonization what was the regulatory regulatory incoherence these are you know ten dollar words that actually mean race to the bottom what was comedy exactly. alexis everything we know so far about this is from leaks that congressman peter de fazio on the show the other day and he said he wanted to you know he wanted to them and he said i want to see you know what's what's the deal and they said ok you can go into this room without any recording devices and you can look at one piece or you can look at the whole thing you pick the piece you want to look at you can you can make notes afterwards but if you tell anybody what you read you go to prison i mean he literally said on the show he said i can't tell you because i will go to jail. if we're going to sane and he is and was this true i mean was congressman de fazio exaggerating no not at all that is the absolute truth even our
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legislators have no idea what is being agreed to but the interesting thing to me is that the parties are fairly open about what they want out of these trade agreements and certainly the corporations are very open about what they expect to get out of the trade agreements and you can look at the u.s. trade representative's report and the list all of the things that they want to get from the other countries in the explain how good of a job they're doing on behalf of the corporations to micro-manage how corporate how countries are writing their lives their targeting food labeling their targeting any type of regulation any type of safety testing related to turn it into nearing and this is the u.s. government how we think that we have a democracy and. the things that citizens want actually matters but it seems that the u.s. government and the corporations have already made up their mind about these things and they're trying to tell other countries what to do is this a case of the quote above which her capture or. or
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you know revolving door what's the source of this kind of corruption that the government would be doing the bidding of is it that these people these negotiators are expecting to get. fancy jobs in industry when they leave a million bucks employees and fancy jobs in industry they're getting money for donations right well for instance the dickey he's no longer in this position but for the for the duration of the obama administration until this year islams the dickey was the trade negotiator for agriculture his previous job was crop life he with the lobbyist for the big thick chemical companies monsanto doubt upon a thought or a and he was a major fundraiser for obama in his campaign so this is just like with the f.c.c. in that neutrality tom wheeler the former top posters and. it's amazing patti to talk about seafood i read i think was the new york times sunday magazine about six months ago they had a bunch of photos of these just god awful pawns in china where they're growing
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other kinds of seafood you know the little awkward cultural things that were filled with weird chemicals and i mean it was them i remember in their right you know what's the story sadly you are so at this point most americans i mean eat seafood are eating imported seafood and much of it is are aquaculture facilities and we're very worried about the conditions you know in lots of countries but a lot of these countries are going to be signers to be eventual agreements that were were already importing a lot of culture seafood products from c.p.p. countries over five billion pounds a year already so if you have agreement that lets the companies that are doing those exports that are sending their product here we have an agreement that lets them challenge whatever rules we do have about what drugs you. used to raise those fish the antibiotics the fungicides all of the chemicals that are used to prop up that system we're really worried that we're going to have even more coming in we know our inspectors at the border are ready outgunned they only look at about less than two percent of it coming in is what the f.d.a. is able to do and then we have a if you have a trade agreement let's knock down these standards we're really going to see
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a flood of even more unsafe seafood coming in and isn't that a parallel in some ways i mean the humane society of america spent over twenty years logged to put a ban. killing dolphins while you're fishing for to and we ended up with dolphin for two and then we signed nafta in the ninety's and mexico are mexican fishermen sued us america said you can't enforce strong laws and all of us you know we no longer have an dollar you some companies are labeling it that way but there's not a we can't have a wall of water anymore or we look at the same kind of thing with with t p p we're definitely worried about that we're already bringing so much in and it's just a question of it's not really that they can send much more i mean we're already getting even percent of our seafood from overseas so it's now a question over eighty percent of what americans eat is imported we actually catch some good stuff here and we export it to countries that will pay more but it's about sending the cheapest product here but this these agreements are about knocking down standards they're not they're not really about increasing the flow as
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much as they are about making it easier for these companies to just be able to do whatever they want not have any kind of safety standards and in the way incredible alexis in the last minute we have here we have a growing organic food movement in united states what's going to happen to the. well hopefully organic standards would stay strong so far countries have been negotiating one on one with you out on equivalency agreement so it's been ok now the u.s. doesn't seem to like korea high standards for granted and wants to believe and perhaps would like to include that in one of the larger trade agreements rather than negotiating on organic standards alone so korea has south korea has higher standards than we did apparently for ghana and. so it's like yeah raise to the. raising patty they like this thank you both for joining us thanks for coming up the evidence is in americans are economic populist but how do we turn the overwhelming populous on a lot of americans into real and lasting change and direction. you. will
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see the. science technology innovation all the least of melanin still around russia we've got the future covered. and. i would rather ask questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on our t.v. question for. i'm
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. a society that i think corporation kind of can consume can do and the banks i think it's all been all about money and i'm just fashionably late for a politician writing the laws and regulations that. coming up. here is just too much pressure is it a diet. that. in screwed news the one hundred thirteenth congress is without a doubt one of the worst congresses in all of american history in fact nothing changes during your mass drastically before next january it will go down in the
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record books as the least productive congress ever i mean all the way back to george washington ever the one hundred thirteenth congress is the way it is because republicans have decided to reject anything that could remotely help president obama this kind of extreme partisanship in washington leads many people to think that the country as a whole is also hopelessly divided between left and right in reality though there's a lot the american people agree on especially when it comes to the economy or in the pew research center sixty percent of americans think that the economic system favors the wealthy sixty nine percent would like the government to act to reduce inequality fifty four percent want to raise taxes on the rich and according to bloomberg sixty nine percent of americans want to raise the minimum wage to ten dollars and ten cents an hour the evidence is in americans or economic populists so will this translate into any real change on capitol hill and what sort of alliances should the rest of us be making to help pass populist legislation joining me now
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for more on this is richard esko senior fellow at the campaign for america's future and host of the zero hour radio program or should welcome back. always great to be with you tom thank you richard when you see poll numbers like that sixty nine percent approval for raising the minimum wage fifty four percent for taxing the rich it seems fair to say that there's a growing populous consensus would you agree with that sentiment. oh absolutely in fact we've done studies on that campaign for america's future with the simple two polling data our own and others i've written about it quite a bit i think there's no question that there's an overwhelming mood in this country that the government should do more to give us a fairer and more equitable economy and that is in a sense populous and you guys your your organization campaign for america's future you started a campaign called the populist majority to organize around this very issue can tell
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us more about that. well first of all populous majority dot org is a website that anyone can access that has a compilation of polling data on this issue that i think would be of a lot of interests to folks we have a conference coming up on the new populism later this month later in may one day conference for i think people would find interesting and if i may say so highly affordable and so i think they'll be a number of and by the way senator elizabeth warren perhaps their most visible oculus that will be speaking there i giving the keynote so i think there's a lot lot of organizing to be done but basically what i think we and others are trying to do is bring it to the attention of the political class and perhaps the media elite as well that there is a strong populist sentiment in this country it's not extreme or left liberal or french thinking to be supporting some of these ideas expanding social security
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raising the minimum wage an aggressive jobs program won't be out of the government these are mainstream american positions held by most voters including in many cases most republican voters we had ralph nader on the show last thursday he's got a new book out called unstoppable as i recall in which he says basically if we could get. those so-called right the tea partiers who believe these same populist things that you're saying and the left the occupy the whatever the progressives who believe these things would be on site here's a short clip from ralph. you're saying let's just take issue by issue by issue and create these alliances outside of the normal construct of sites where you don't even have to focus on elections to these these people who are in office ones who put their finger to the wind and they see this sworn this rumble coming left right to change their vote we did that the sixty's and early seventy's. so two
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things first you agree with ralph that we should be working with libertarians other populist right wingers to work against the corporate state and if so should we be working on an issue by issue basis as opposed to through elections. well i think you know it's a complex question i guess i would say first of all sure we should be working with libertarians and anyone on an issue by issue basis to promote visibility get people thinking about these issues for example i'm an enthusiastic supporter of rand paul's position on the n.s.a. for example but i i would like to see him as president so i think you know we have to be careful about how we approach these issues but i think that anytime we can make people realize that the political class is not addressing what they want and get people this space specially on the right away from thinking. and what they're really up against i think the more good we're doing yeah one of the things i've noticed about both bernie sanders and with warren in their populism
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is they are pretty rigorous about limiting it to economic issues in the half a minute or so we have a lot for sure do you think that's a good strategy as opposed to going for like rand paul's n.s.a. thing. well i think you know it's interesting if it strikes me that it is a strategy and i think that it makes sense because these pocketbook issues e.'s kitchen table issues are what electrify people but i think in the end of the day if you're going to energize your own base and build your base you have to reflect the same set of values in all issues that's my personal opinion but we'll see how it plays out ok richard ask out thanks a lot for being with us tonight. my pleasure. in other news it's been a rough year for wal-mart over the last twelve months america's largest retailers experienced a slowdown in sales and its stock has taken a nosedive but despite wal-mart's poor performance over the past year that corporations executives still made out pretty well i think wal-mart's united states
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chief for example would simon despite sales that only rose one point eight percent over the past year simon still managed to get a one point five million dollar bonus he supposed to be continued two percent increase and total compensation of around thirteen million other walmart executives have also raked in million dollar windfalls despite the down year in fact six of the wal-mart's top executives it received a total of eight point four two million in cash incentive payments despite sluggish sales unfortunately the workers at wal-mart not been so lucky wal-mart's employees many of whom are making minimum wage are struggling to survive day to day haven't seen any measurable increases in salary over the past year fortunately there's a way to stop the struggle for walmart employees and all minimum wage workers and ensure that they all have enough money to survive and provide for their families it's called a basic income it was per first proposed by thomas paine in his book agrarian justice and it's a guaranteed income from the government whether you're working or not cover every
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american over the age of twenty one a check every month and everyone is free to do what they want with the money countries like europe and continents like europe and south america have already been experimenting with a basic income and it's gained a lot of support and alaska has been doing it for almost two generations sarah palin loves sending out those checks her own family gets around fourteen thousand dollars a year tax free for doing nothing at all so isn't it time for a basic income right here in the united states outside of just alaska let's ask sherrilyn harley labov former senior counsel with the u.s. senate judiciary committee and national co-chair of the project twenty one black leadership network surely good to see you again good feeling gives. what's wrong with doing what sarah palin was so enthusiastic about well there are a number of four why do you want to take away the circle and why. sarah palin is welcome to do what she wants in alaska for the entire country that something different here's a couple things i'm worried about first of all i'm worried about those people who are already on the lower rungs of the socio economic ladder ok those that might be
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homeless people mentally ill criminals. drug abusers we're giving them more money or we're giving them money and giving them some more some money to do what with it oh to that through to live if you look at the countries that have guaranteed minimum incomes brazil canada denmark finland germany iceland are luxembourg no one is poor norway portugal spain sweden switzerland u.k. sort of in france sort of in all of these countries they all have lower property rights we do they all have lower drug addiction rates than we do i would submit to you that if people didn't have to struggle with the severe poverty that we see the united states is the worst of the thirty eight most developed countries the world would be countries that we wouldn't have as many things see but what i'm worried about again is were giving money to these people who are already in some ways
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either not willing to work or on able to work so that that's one argument second argument is i'm worried about the disincentive aspect of this you know when you have recent high school graduates and recent college graduates there's always that that dream of a great job and what i'm worried about is if we have this guaranteed minimum income then we are creating that disincentive for that next generation to go on to grad school to become the next generation of engineers inventors scientists who think that's a conservative canard i mean not so no. that's a conservative in art sherrilyn conservative but here's the assumption behind it the assumption behind it is that people do things for money and i don't think that that's true i think people do things for a whole variety of fairly complex reasons but the main one is gratification is is self satisfaction is the feeling of achievement but if you really work out is
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gratification going to get a check it's not that high school graduates and college graduates i mean the reason why we have we're growing the next generation of steve jobs and inventors and engineers is because you know they have this this dream of a career and a job and i think we want to nurture that encourage that and i got to tell you if a high school graduate is guaranteed you know a certain income i'm going to go as knowledge and i think if they're not even going to bother to try and i'm not saying that i'm just saying i'm worried about it creating this disincentive and not pushing our kids to become that next generation innovators and then finally what i what i also think is that we're creating yet another government program with this you could do away with all the other ones you can do away with all those programs you hate no more food stamps no more hugs muscle wait a minute i'm going to let but let me tell you something no the benchmarks in the parameters we have in place with food stamps i think are good because we want
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people to be buying food with food stamps think about should it is so poor that they have to go to get to go to the government are safety in that we're creating but think about this you're giving people money every month time we don't know what they're going to do with that money i trust. you know i know that you know that he's out of our users are going to are going to continue to buy your drugs but guess what if you don't have the safety net problem these programs what are we going to do with these people who are can continue to be. you know what jesus said you are you will always have the poor with you there's always going to be about one percent of america who are mentally ill and everyone that's exactly does my point what he's got about three percent who are going to be drug abusers. when i look we have safety net programs if you're just we think you have a new hell money has reminder those people but i don't think that we should skew something for the entire i mean we've got fifty million people living in poverty only agree with your response slice of them and your drug sort of by people with a money every month to do whatever they want with no sort of safeguards of
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parameters that they have to work you know you're arguing in favor of big government you're saying the government should supervise them and decide whether we are you know i'm not saying i trust them and you think that it's going to be great that we just give people money yes to spend however they want us in total pain we're going to have more drugs no i'd lead more people starving i worry about that either well try to sell you talk and you would be interested to see it play out right it would be right the experiment coming up if we don't get active act now the internet as we know it may go away forever i'll tell you what you can do to get involved that.
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we welcome eric made and i mean mark to be terrific oh somebody our team network. is going to give you the numbers monday. you want stuff to never give you the information you make the decision don't worry about how bring you the said works the revolution of the mind it's a revolution of ideas and consciousness in frustrated with the seems to be an extremely new approach which would be described as angry i think in a strong no one single. but.
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it would like to know that you know the price is the only industry specifically mention in the constitution which says that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy schreck help us. program. i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going on we go beyond identifying and trying to rational debate a real discussion critical issues facing america ready to join the movement then welcome to the big picture. bought a bag of the big picture i'm tom hartman coming up in this half hour new research suggests that life inside a group of chimpanzees is a lot like h.b.o.'s smash game of thrones so how did chimpanzees break off in the
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factions and what can they teach us about human society and this weekend a group of a.t.v. writers decided to break federal law and ride all over an ancient native american burial ground that's just a symptom of a larger problem in america i'll tell you what that problem is internet still. in the best of the rest of the news when f.c.c. chairman and former lobbyist tom wheeler proposed a new set of rules last month. affectively killing net neutrality he unleashed a torrent of criticism in the weeks since his announcement the f.c.c. has been flooded with complaints both from individuals and tech companies demanding a free and open internet and it now appears as though so those complaints may have worked or maybe just sort of as the wall street journal reported earlier today the
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f.c.c. is backtracking on its original proposal and revising the rules that put forward in april so that they can better take into account the concerns of net neutrality supporters the move comes just days before the agency votes on those rules on may fifteenth so what's in the f.c.c. these new new rules and do they actually protect net neutrality. joining me or file for more on this is chance why it's so soon policy director free press a chance welcome thanks so much of the to be here great to have you with us break this down for us what's in these new rules it seems like really it's kind of neat the new boss same as the old boss these are the year i'd say that's probably a pretty accurate assessment i think this is instead of new rules this might be more of an exercise in rebranding and what the chairman has already put forward. at the bottom line here it looks like what the chairman is proposing is pay priority on the internet allowing discrimination online that's never been the case and
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certainly something that has disturbed the tech community investors internet users everywhere and a whole host of public interest organizations around the country it's a big deal and this exercise in rebranding i think is very much driven by the fact that the f.c.c. has heard from a number of people over the past couple of weeks really raising their voices and letting them know that for the first time in a long time we're paying attention and it's not just going to be left up to lobbyists to write the rules i've been pushing people on this program and on my radio program to get over a free press to that because you guys have one of the best you know here's the petition here's how to contact them here's you know get into it but i have noticed an absolute silence about this or a near absolute silence on all the large corporate media and even most other talk shows most of the talk shows. well i mean keep in mind all of this is wrapped up into our media complex here so comcast own zimbi c.d.n.
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owns a mess in d.c. and owns a number of channels on cable and so are just as p. and they want to be when they want to be married and larger so it's probably in their best interest for you not to know very much about this luckily people are breaking through and really getting the information that they need but that is really thanks wholly to the open internet where people are finding information and connecting with each other and organizations that that really have the knowledge that they need to to ask their policy makers and members of congress to act in them on their behalf we get very very righteous and condemn for example the iraq. bahrain saudi arabia for censoring certain things on the internet and so you know how do they do their you know but isn't what tom wheeler is proposing it's not allowing necessarily the united states government to censor the internet most of them through a whole bunch of money at somebody which is probably not inconceivable but it's
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allowing companies to censor the internet you know what it's really doing is it's putting the internet in the hands fully up to the corporations that you and i pay every month to connect to the internet so our internet service providers really are a block could be huge gate keepers and keep us from getting the information that we want to and if you're paying for priority on line if there's an option for people with the most money or people with a lot of resources to enter an internet pass lane that means that all the rest of our voices are defacto slowed down and so it functions very much like you might say citizens united or something like that where we have this problem right now where it seems like the more money you have the more speech that you have and that's exactly what the f.c.c. is going to set up online if you have the resources your speech travels further faster with greater. impact than all the rest of ours that's never what the way that the internet has worked and it certainly shouldn't be the way that it
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functions now thursday is the vote of the f.c.c. and yet thursday free press is organizing a demonstration here in washington d.c. in front of the f.c.c. building we're calling this correctly that sure tell us about it why thursday do you really think the doing it on the day of the vote will change it or i mean you know and what has led up to this well what is lead up to this is a tremendous amount of organizing and pressure phone calls to the f.c.c. members of congress raising their voice is a great letter from the senate last week led by senator ron wyden elizabeth warren bernie sanders a lot of great folks on that letter pushing the f.c.c. to do the right thing commissioner's rose and we're still in cliburn inside of the f.c.c. democratic commissioners actually pushing against the chairman's proposal so there's been a lot of pressure if you go through republicans who are going to republicans two to one of whom is that has also asked the f.c.c. chair to delay his vote on these rules because you know the concern is that there's
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been such a public outcry and so much input coming from the public that they haven't really had time to fully absorb it as they make this this really important decision so basically we've been applying pressure from day one and we will continue to apply it but i think on the day of that f.c.c. vote it's very important for them to recognize that there are people out there listening and watching so often that room is packed with corporate lobbyists the people that are very comfortable in that building that are very familiar to the people who work there we want them to know that the voices of the american people which have overwhelmingly asked for the f.c.c. to reclassify broadband as a telecommunications service are the exact voices that the chairman should be listening to michael powell colin paul's son was the chairman of the f.c.c. he is now the multimillionaire. head lobbyist for the organizations that are against senator. ality arguably. tom wheeler used to be a multimillionaire he stole a multi-million think you know here used to be
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a head lobbyist for both the telco companies and then for the cell phone companies and now he is the head of the f.c.c. if he if this call goes down the way he wants it is tom wheeler looking at another you know doing a michael pollan going back into the industry and point down to three four five million a year you know from all that we've heard i think the chairman is going to call it a career with this post at the f.c.c. who knows what the future holds for him certainly he has said at his confirmation hearing and in other settings that he was a lobbyist for industry and now his client is the american people and we hope that he does take that but that isn't made very serious isn't the simple solution for him to do as the set as the u.s. court for the district of columbia suggested to simply reclassify peas as common carriers very simple title two that's it one sentence and that that is in fact the simplest approach to take care what the what the chairman is proposing and the
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foundation that he's building upon is a foundation that that the court has struck down a number of times they struck down net neutrality rules built on that foundation a number of times and to go forward again does seem foolhardy and it does seem to to run counter to what the american public actually want to just simply say it's like a phone company you know that your phone company can't listen your a con your conversation and charge you a different rate depending on what you're talking about i mean it's that's what common carrier status is acres it is a country and here we're we're pleased to have you with us and thanks so much happy to be we're doing thursday for the f.c.c. be there for president not thank you you thank. just. the. kids the good the bad of the very very hearty aisha's lee oddly the good st louis
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rams on saturday evening the n.f.l. team made history by taking university of missouri defensive and michael sam the two hundred forty ninth selection in the twenty four team and i felt draft sam suits up next year for the rams he will become the first openly gay player in f.l. history here's how he reacted to the news. this. that's israel's it gets by the way here's an interesting piece of historical trivia the rams now have the honor of being the first n.f.l. team to integrate by race and now the first team to integrate bi sexual preference good on them for keeping their trailblazing ways alive in the twenty first century the mad jack burkman d.c. lobbyist who i've debated before on the show announced before the n.f.l.
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draft started that he would lead a massive boycott of any team that drafted michael steele book and said n.f.l. like most of the roast of american business is about to learn the new trouble with christian community and christian values there will be a terrible financial or as to that is a strong word so far burton's boycott seems like an empty threat michael spam's jersey already ranks number two in overall rookie jersey sales just beyond the jersey of cleveland browns draft pick johnny manziel a man's man zero and the very very ugly during the war while the reaction around the league and the sports world of michael sam's draft selection has been overwhelmingly positive the ward former running back the new york giants houston texans still can't get over is almost full right after sam was drafted he sat out a bunch of tweets complaining about sam's kissing his boyfriend on t.v. word said i'm sorry about michael sam is no one over doing that on national t.v.
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and finally being a new day and age you but for him to do that on to actual t.v. is disgusting man you have little kids looking at the draft i can't believe e.s.p.n. even allowed that to happen. derek ward were really concerned about what the children see on t.v. and on the computer and stop being so publicly homophobic. so you just too blinded by his own ignorance to see michael sam's kiss for what it was a great moment for sports fans of all identities gay straight or anywhere in between back to the ward can't apparently see that alex sad experience. christopher columbus may. i've come home to the fourteen ninety two but is white euro centric mentality lives on today and people like clyde and bundy explain why i'd still take.
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i would rather ask questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on r.t. question for. so sometimes you know what you know and sometimes you know what you don't know and sometimes as the fires and theater says everything you know is wrong and go with your bra if you want to hear your right. to say things that sure you know not yet really being you know is wrong you know for a long time the primates like chimpanzees are almost as intelligent as human beings but now it turns out that chimpanzees are also capable of waging violent and bloody wars like we humans do and are capable of breaking off into different groups and
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factions based on social dynamics back new research suggests that the life of chimpanzees is a lot like the popular h.b.o. series game of thrones it's. people who love the king. they know i saved the city they know i won the wool. almost no one. it's tempting to see you when it was as evil. as good and evil on both sides in every war of the full so if you think that chimpanzees just run around and enjoy the great outdoors then everything you know is wrong joining me now is joseph l. bloom ph d. student and researcher and evolutionary anthropology at duke university joseph welcome. thank you how did you go about studying the chimpanzees social network.
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well all this research is based on observations made by jane goodall and some of her collaborators early on in uganda national park in tanzania and so we had this particular project came from all the data came from. work that they had done back in the one thousand seventies so what was it that was happening back in the seventy's and the gandhi stream national park. well jane first arrived there in one nine hundred sixty and established a feeding station where they tried to get the chimps to come and get them used to people and so for about a decade everything was pretty copacetic and. chimpanzees were coming there and then and then there they were getting more and more used to people and then not suddenly in one thousand seventy three something happened that was a shock to all of. all the researchers at the time and that was. and that was that
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the community split in two so they thought that the researchers thought that they had one study community and suddenly it split into two separate communities and this is never bored before being seen in chimpanzees and while there's you know there are some studies that indicate that human societies. that a person is capable of having basically one hundred fifty close relationships and that's there's a biological limit there and that in among tribal people tribes will break into clans and clans will continue to you know they'll always subdivided down to groups of basically one hundred fifty and there's a linear relationship among mammals between brain size and the number of people in their group is that what happened with the chimps there was was that the population grew to the point where there was a biological imperative to split or was it something psychological something that
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happened as a consequence of the humans being there and what drove it. well it's a really good question in fact we don't think that there was some sort of group size limit that was reached because there are other populations of chimpanzees that we've seen in other parts of africa which got they would have reached sizes that are a lot bigger than what we had in gambit time. so you know psychological is hard to say but certainly we found that there were a few factors that we think may have. may have sparked this fission which were the death of an older male who was maybe a bridge between these bees as you call them factions and also be a power struggle between. three highly ranked males and interesting what killing to learn from these chimpanzees studies about human societies and what does it tell us
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about how much we may be predestined toward as a consequence of nature rather than nurture biology. well it's a good question you know one of the things that's interesting about this research is that it's the only observed fish and still so we've never seen this repeated and so we think that this must be very very rare and because of that it's hard to conclude anything very general about about you know chimpanzees behavior and then human behavior but it's interesting to note that there is there's a really famous study in sociology called zachary's karate club where this researcher was observing this karate club and it split you know all on its own and some of the details of that split were very similar to details of. this comet chimp split that we've documented. it's interesting because the span the like the european union is doing america kind of wrecking the civil war. well i hope not i
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think that you know it the way that we talk about these events is that there's sort of. a series of historical contingencies that all have to be met around at the same time that for them to happen and so you know hopefully hopefully europe can keep it together and hopefully the u.s. cannot do a better job of not letting bridging people die everything we seem to have a ways to cope. joseph problem thanks a lot for being with us the yeah thanks so much and now everything you know about chimpanzee behavior and human behavior is right. frenzy alert public punishment per public fears. if you've ever been there you know
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that public urination is a huge problem in india in fact it's almost impossible to go a day in that subcontinent without seen someone draining their lives or on the sidewalk in an alleyway or even on the train tracks things have gotten so bad in mumbai india's financial capital that a group known as cleaning india has decided to take action a modern no water cannon on a huge yellow truck and driving a truck around the city squirting away anyone who is well scored in a way to get out.
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who into public health could do so if you're black. the ugly american is back in a big way back in march of two thousand and one the taliban blew up and destroyed the buddhas of the meon two bassam six centuries statues of the buddha that were carved into the side of a cliff in the bomb walled valley about ghana still historic centuries old statues were destroyed. an order from the leader of the taliban at that time the law omar who had declared that the statues were religious idols and thus forbidden by the first commandment in the bible the desecration of these statues caused the destruction stages as well as the desecration caused mass outrage throughout the
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western world and here in the united states because people just couldn't understand how a group could destroy ancient historical relics and have such little respect for other and older cultures well fast forward to today and the lack of respect that the taliban had for other cultures is showing up right here in america this weekend there was a large and illegal a.t.v. or all terrain vehicle ride through recapture canyon in utah. prior to the ride there been a great deal of criticism and concern from the navajo nation because the ride through recaptured canyon would put thousands of years of cultural resources for native americans at risk not to mention that the ride also went over an ancient sacred native american burial ground but the concerns of the navajo nation and the legal requirement from the b.l.m. to protect ancient sacred sites and artifacts are all ignored by this group and the
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ride went along as planned despite violating federal law and despite putting archaeological sites at risk. similarly it should come as no surprise that some of the a.t.v. riding lawbreakers in utah this weekend were members of the clive and bundy camp in an e-mail blast to his followers bundy wrote that we need to help the people of blanding reestablish who is in control of the land this is your next stand will you be there to help them like you helped us by the way please make a donation. well buddy's call to his followers to illegally ride on government land and put thousands of years worth of history and culture at risk is pretty twisted it's assists and it's a symptom of a much larger problem in america a problem which has been around since call columbus first sailed the ocean blue even those twenty fourteen there is still a strong euro centric disdain for all other cultures throughout american society
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and the culture isn't white and european based much of white america pretty much doesn't give a damn about it and while it may not be as obviously bloody or deadly it's the same lack of respect that columbus showed for the thai you know people on the island of hispaniola allen which today is eighty in the debate dominican republic. prior to columbus is arrival the thai you know were a flourishing to do this group that had lived in peace for hundreds of years there were millions of but then columbus really began a campaign of mass slaughter and an active sex trade and in slave to many of the thai you know people in harsh conditions by fifteen forty eight the once booming you know population was down to just five hundred people eventually they were all dead there was a complete lack of respect and understanding showed by columbus and his fellow explorers the thai you know people and for their way of life there was also a white eurocentric culture that fueled hostilities between early american settlers
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and the native americans who had called america home for over ten thousand years. rather than work to understand and appreciate native americans european settlers killed and or drove them off their its american indian wars fought off between sixteen twenty two and one hundred twenty four over three hundred years were fueled by the white euro centric cultural arrogance that came over with early americans from europe we killed and slaves millions of native americans rather than embracing their culture it was a genuine holocaust which spanned centuries and continues to this day. we did a similar thing to africans were brought over here involuntarily from africa slaves and that whole of course continues to this day. we treat members of the muslim american community the immigrants from mexico to the a.t.v. ride over sacred native american sites the white eurocentric culture that has been
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in america since the days of columbus continues to rear its ugly head. for america to live up to the values we claim to espouse we must respect and embrace all cultures cultures and societies and our media should identify and shame ugly americans like t.v. bodies for what they are the american taliban. and that's the way it is tonight monday may second two thousand and fourteen and don't forget democracy begins with you your.
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i know c.n.n. the m s n b c news have taken some not slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate such that was funny but it's closer to the truth than the might think. it's because one whole attention and the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on here. to be coming back . at our teen years we have a different pretty. good because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not. ok. i've. got to stick to the jokes i will hand over the stuff that i've got to.
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give her a. very hard take a. look you. have you ever had sex with that her big hair good. for the good.
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this was in the washington well it's a mess that is being suggested in the latest numbers in the media candidate for congress are you going to do that actually back doesn't do too much crowd revenue line tech agriculture giant piece on a seventy six year old american far east india fallout do you think this is going to create for the cia do you think this is what's triggering the break because the largest economy in the world it's also the largest debtor nation in the history of prettiness that is mostly about alternatives to the status quo but one might give you all of the points that working towards the american dream the next they were just trying to survive this time for americans and lawmakers are forced to wake up and start talking about the real causes of problems.
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on larry king now the charming and talented brit doing a lot of the big covers that i got came after i was on the cover of sports illustrated so they were really the ones that kind of created a career for me and then people sort of caught on after them and the people that work in fashion are artists they're incredibly creative they're very talented but when you're the model you're sort of the result of all of their hard work so for me if felt very guilty did you have a tough time doing it so if the good news is beautiful models sports illustrated tenchi yes i did and i think i still do but at the same time it's not like i'm in a fight they had the fed me because it's what open the doors for me plus it's only a mother and he really i hosted the show he watched it every week and got his agent to call my agent it's not terrible that's all next on larry king now.


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