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tv   Cross Talk  RT  September 25, 2017 3:29am-4:01am EDT

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more election reaction from germany live from berlin in just over half an hour from now but i'll be here with the rest of your global news. reason why north korea is trying to develop the capability to. prevent japan and the united states from assisting south korea in case of contingencies because with. the missile capabilities capable of attacking japan and the united
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states north korea can say oh the americans and japanese if you assist south korea we would with nuclear weapons. which will make. those get a little bit who was one. of the most on you but i you. know both of the west but i just sort of kind of it was. kind of this yes north korea dump on a handwritten note she refused. to. wear the blue he will get a good area for immigrants it's good miss we never really know for sure but this is been a. ecu
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so i. know. when i started no i. follow in welcome to cross talk we're all going to consider. i'm peter labelle trump morphs into a neo con well that didn't take long also the world disorder after the united nations general assembly speeches and why does morgan freeman hate russia so much.
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cross talking real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow mark slobodan he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have victor all of which he is a political analyst as well as a leading expert of the center for actual politics and we have dmitri bobbitt she is a political analyst with sputnik international right gentlemen as always crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it mark let me go to you first here i still think the afterglow of president trump speech at the united nations has meaning because what we've seen over the last few days are all the tricks ok the rocket man thing very undiplomatic it's not under international law illegal speech. but it's a confirmation of who's running american foreign policy i would point out that you've been saying this from the very very beginning but it really looks like you know we just have the continuation of bush's foreign policy of obama's foreign
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policy and as i have said for years on this program it's the genetic code foreign policy of the united states it doesn't matter who's in white house. now. ok first of all trump speaking at the united nations general assembly it is this once a year of events where heads of state frequently come it's very interesting who came and who didn't go we didn't see president putin we didn't see prime minister modi we didn't see the president of china we didn't see angela merkel what we saw are those are who are new to the stage and i like to think of this is a coming out party for world statesmen this is where. their cherries are popped on the world stage so trump was there the french president my crawdad the prime minister of the u.k. may this being their first rodeo they were there. and trump failed spectacularly in terms of content in terms of what we expect from
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a statesman but delivered on what we actually expect from him which is entertaining about. his wardrobe. but i think you know you saw that in the mainstream media but in a very different way here because there there was low expectations i mean again this is how trump succeeds because he has a they deem that he can't do it and then he delivers what he does i mean it was a campaign speech it was not his for it was directed mostly at home and not at the international community well i would say it was unprecedented because never in human history since the. did a head of state threaten to actually destroy another country oh that's not true they all have threatened north korea and their island you know he used as opium language by keeping all options on the table of course it was a threat of war but usually the statements say and we teach them about us who don't
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know they don't know it and say this is this is what i'm saying here and this is what i'm saying here is that kind of agreeing with both of you at the same time i mean the presentation is one issue ok and it was very trump esque as we would expect here but there is a continuity here just because you're using different words doesn't mean the meaning isn't the same absolutely still i will get my anger that the united nations charter specifically prohibits no one just towards a threat toward a threat a war is a crime by the by united nations so we're saying sions neither one of them to stop this kind of brings me to victory kind of brings me back to an issue that is really important to me is that we've said repeatedly on this program. and overriding of topics the issue of international law the demon is brought up you never ever see that in western media that's never brought up is america on the judge jeanine program on fox i mean than they did some box pops down the streets and just whipping up war whipping up war warmongering scaremongering and it just wall to
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wall and it's a feel good experience here and that's what i find very disturbing is that republican democrat progressive liberal whatever you still get the same policy look there is actually some rationale some logic behind what trump the with his inappropriate and frankly grotesque speech in front of the united nations general assembly and the logic is this remember how the league of nations. stopped you know how it ended up being us and this is what the united states wants for the united nations and here's what it's for the united nations since the end of the cold us to rubberstamp because they're at the united nations since their existence and actually it was founded during cold war two it was based on a. sea of the one hundred forty two and then found it in the last stages so here in the west they use world war two to two minute there and to preserve the post work
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peace between the new superpowers and the when the cold war ended in one thousand eight hundred nine one thousand nine hundred one the united states becoming the sole superpower and assuming great sizzix you know this one. world policeman we can say it's religious may think that it was a privilege ok exactly and now they feel they felt it would be will be forever it will be it will last forever just as many empires think and it never happens nothing is forever in the world history and the united nations for them became some think of we you know something that prohibited. then from anything here and it really can be yes. they couldn't get the united nations to allow them to approve their war in iraq they couldn't get the united nations to approve their other military adventures in the chaos and the civil suit remember and but let's remember george bush jr he wanted he also wanted. to hamper the
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workings of the united nations john bolton who loved who all of stump speech he was actually the u.s. ambassador to the this is during george bush jr's term in the white house so this is a six so why does tom go to the united nations and go over this this aggressive extremely aggressive speech where he actually has a team of south you know invokes the u.s. right to completely destroying north korea and he talks about venezuela and these other countries because he wants to show that international law protects the powerful ok well that's what that's what i've said i said do you really appreciate the fact that the u.s. president mention the word sovereignty so many times but it was only sovereignty for some countries and not others gentlemen we got a lot of to cover here i want to go to an actor that we all know and maybe still love maybe don't want to look at morgan freeman he's part of
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a new organization called the committee to investigate russia i want to take a look at this clip here let's roll it. oh it's god we know. we are. imagine this movie script of former k.g.b. spy angry at the collapse of his motherland plus of course for rebuilding. whoa well. mark i didn't know that this actually was an expert on international ations and specifically russia i guess i missed that yeah well i mean this was a great movie script up until the point where he says it's not a movie script this is a crude. juvenile manichean piece of propaganda and it really should embarrass not only what is the image you know you know a lot of yourself to be well like this but those who produced it and it has to be
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said even the liberal western press in moscow no friend to the russian government whatsoever was embarrassed and was. criticizing this. piece makes the usual suspects we have max boot we have james clapper. perjurer in. one of the and david frum probably the he probably is the. reigning prince of never getting everything anything right don't forget the russian foreign policy experts who directed it. you may know him for also directing when harry met sally rob reiner because no you know what i will date myself everyone will know when i call him meathead all in the family and i think that was probably the last good thing ever did but anyway what was your reaction to the great actor from well going to remain the is a losing his clinical tale and because you say as he should you know i think
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address and tell him right in the eye and then he says something usually i would say stop telling me that i want to stop telling me that i want almost a but you know picture that would make a very we're going to see me looking at this and he's he's a great actor ok i don't i don't even really think he understands what he's saying . this is an act of desperation this is what this is is to keep this this narrative . hoax narrative this conspiracy narrative alive they have to get you know and i can put it all on you're exactly correct and when you list the people who are on that committee to investigate who actually tells you everything about how this how is this tape was recorded how it happened you know how i would as well know has been intertwined with the interests of those seventy and u.s. intelligence agencies that we talk so much but i do know that with seventy there also it's you know maybe they're going to be twenty five by next year to have to
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run with. how does this happen. you know somebody like morgan freeman and rob reiner get calls from friends in one of those seventy and agencies and they're told you know. as you well know if you didn't you know it on c.n.n. yes and we could easily easily need to appreciate your assistance could you please and of course how could he say you know all if you are so they have of course they will oblige and this is what we this is that is what i understand mark is that when they when this went public i mean they were. just able to comment section and then the if you look at their likes and dislikes the dislikes overwhelmingly. and the number of the ones that people did like it's i mean the fact that they didn't want any comments tells you every day don't want a discussion they just want to one way monologue to continue to convince me i have
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to say when we look at north korea i mention this judge jeanine program on fox news it works the media does does is able to convince people to follow their narrative going to have to go to a short break and after that short rick we'll continue our discussion on real news today with our. kind of financial survival john today was all about money laundering first to visit this question this way different. oh good this is a good start well we have our three banks all set up here maybe something in your something in america something overseas in the cayman islands or do we do all these banks are complicit in their tough talk received a softer didn't fold and say hey i'm ready to do some serious muhlenberg ok let's
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see how we did well we've got home got a nice laundry watch for max and for stacy oh beautiful jewelry and how about. luxury automobile again for max you know what money laundering is highly illegal. much keyser because of. the war hawks selling you on the idea that dropping bombs brings police to the chicken hawks forcing you to fight the battles they don't. produce offspring to tell you that what we gossip the public by file for the most important day. off advertising tells me you are not cool enough to buy their product. all the hawks that we along with our audience will watch. in. seen over. these.
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welcome back across time for all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok marc before i went to the break we were talking about the weaponization of morgan freeman it's a it for me it's a very interesting phenomenon but i think all already it is deemed a failure go ahead yeah i think it is a fact that it didn't even get support from its own echo chamber and there was a degree of the barest. we have to look at i mean take a just take a look at the short role list of who are the directors the board of directors the. lies or as with any prejudice there is no one who speaks russian there is no one who is an expert on russia in any way there is no one who is an expert in cyber or
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security policy. and there's no real security experts whatsoever on this committee to investigate russia's own website you know within a week of launching they had this profile of the rain from this russian equal into of the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff grass moss and they there's all these references media to a gerasim of doctrine of hybrid warfare which is a complete propaganda because it completely usually neglects the fact that i'm off what specifically replying to what us military policy of unconventional warfare part of the military manual already is and that russia must respond. but this committee to protect journalists they put up a picture of talking about the ground small truck and it's not even grasp that even has no user in russian the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff it's someone
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else's picture so real good investigation of russia and the pros they don't devolve to guard doctrine named after the marshal i got a very unpleasant things have been got to die so they didn't want ninety four so they quit long to talk about it so they invented this give us some of the doctrine and i like the headline. opinion page you know that. they don't are all dead the problem with the gospel doctrine is that it doesn't exist but i can tell you that this is the problem with a new doctrine which the western media describes brezhnev never knew with if you could brezhnev doctrine it would be very surprised you know there must have been kind of happy about it i think russians never use this war then maybe consider vented saying the russians invented it actually the western press misuses the security term warfare in a completely not possible especially if i know that. morgan freeman you know the problem is that he's talking about terrible things about it in such
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a peaceful reassuring way i thought that the and then he would say so please stop watering the bomb. ok i'm going to dr strangelove that it would be. more labor to do it and there is actually talking about that there is a doctor and that is in effect and it was shown to be ineffective in terms of stem on the whole doctrine so they actually said was there in america and south america subservient to the united states and there would be. well yes the united states permanently atari's to civilize them but no i wouldn't you know i'm i'm glad you brought this up picture because like trump disparagement of socialism which i know mark i mean from american perspective only until the advent of bernie sanders that you could actually use that word in public i mean it was for bowden and then we have the president of the united states at the podium at the general assembly disparaging socialist thinking the socialists are sitting in the hall already
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hundreds of millions of people call themselves that which was all around the world so it's not very generalized i mean it was not a dirty word portugais they were just again it just showed that kind of no centrism that they're. going to be quiet and that you know this speech was you know the background to the speech was an attempt by the united states to kind of the majority of the members of the united nations who signed a statement that including that included the passage that they wanted to change so they beat the powers only just a cutie council members so he speech his speech and all these attacks they were purposeful they were meant to deal with just in mice the united nations as we know that you know you'll be ok because we were going to have any of ironies or go to samantha power which if you wasn't asking. she was calling for the change of the veto in the security council and if you look at the or and i know we'll get the literary origins from demon in second but you know if you look at the origins of
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that is that the veto power has proven it that it does work it works extremely well but maybe the only thing that works extremely well at the united nations is a. great nuclear armed powers in the world so the u.n. has a very specific narrow and that's right that's what the u.n. the u.n. security council is for and thus far it's worked and the veto. veto suggested by the russian foreign minister fame the russian foreign minister at the time oh it's off. the veto has prevented that i mean prevented nuclear war from journalistically what the white house that's a good let's change gears here this whole story about facebook so we have morgan freeman that was a don't know the facebook thing. again grappling and strong let's get stronger i mean i don't know the the they have a facebook from their ads the twenty seven billion dollars
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a year and then of found one hundred thousand that were purchased by some thousand dollars potentially related to this country or individuals in this country let you know what i am willing to try and now they're looking at the post soviet space which again who's doing this doesn't understand the geo political changes happen in the last twenty five years here i get another wild goose chase well i like to comment on one of my facebook rants about this year old it's amazing what one hundred thousand dollars can buy to put on not one of these we can buy american presidency but actually the way that american press and the way some of the ball is a lamenting the growing influence of facebook is just pathetic because it tells us the truth about what was going on just recently let me quote from someone that also article. in the new york times during the cold war most americans receive their news and information to be unmediated platform's reporters and then it does serve
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in the role of professional gatekeepers and they had almost full control over what appeared in the media so these were the lies when americans when they were doing a keeper oh i thought that we had the free american media which report that all of the truth from all over the war no there were a gate and she managed the fact that there are some phrasebook of columns with no gate ok and i could point out to our viewers that r.t. is trashed in that article also that we are generally what the most interesting thing of about this wild goose chase is it really opens up so many questions here picture well if it is facebook a utility you know is it just a pipe or is it an advocacy group ok and if it's just a pipe then maybe it should be turned into a utility ok like twitter i think twitter should be also and google should be broken up because what we have is a very liberal agenda and they have almost monopoly control in their respective
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areas right here second of all what about other foreign influence in government in elections ok what about a break that was the u.s. government using facebook probably when you look at look at other elections around the world look at ukraine ok i mean if these people pushing this narrative of facebook in russia they're opening up a hue huge can of worms that could go all over the place there's an influence peddling everywhere guys all of the time by brea one go ahead because look let's go back to the times of the cold war. you know mid one nine hundred eighty s. if you wanted to listen to voices of american or radio free europe or radio liberty in the soviet union you would have problems because they were actually special stations here there were jamming those bro. kest you know why because at that time the syrian government thought that it could not compete idea why in the media
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market with those. first products made by the us made by europe and its nato allies and so forth. so there on two day to day it's switched to what's happened so to be in russia you can listen to see and then you can listen to. me you can listen to do it well you can call it as a russian just danger which are more of a rush of them and if we had to do was to actual program yes on a topic and so on so and so but what's actually happening in the united states why are these attacks now it's once put a new one you know feasible co-sponsored by by by whoever why are the happening why are these attacks happening now because they make an establishment feels that it cannot sustain competition from foreign and different media outlets where they don't turn into full interview because they fear that their miracles are actually more likely to believe whether it's he says what sputnik says you know what people
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will assess then the event of what's in this year is but it's also telling from an ideological point of view mark is that western liberalism doesn't want a conversation it doesn't want to have a debate it doesn't want to have an argument because it doesn't have any arguments any more you disagree then you're trashed then you're discredited you're labeled the usual ones that's not how a free disco open market of ideas works and victor is absolutely right that they want to keep their we want to be the good gatekeepers again yeah there's two really disturbing things about this story and it is a manufactured story first one is the way it's being reported because what they're actually talking about here when you look into the details of something that occurred in by a russian. whatever in that which they don't provide any details in two thousand
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and fifteen it had nothing to do with the election the nothing to do with hillary nothing to do with trump and referred to simply the. they were talking about issues such as l g b t and other issues you need time to for me divisiveness like there isn't already enough divisive us military i like i need a facebook ad to have me disagree with obama on transvestite policy using little girls about their diet but the other disturbing thing is the ideological factor that is being pushed through facebook there's no question that zuckerberg is a curate. pure liberal he has a very specific intense it's discussed about running for president he's midwestern states and talking about he's no longer an atheist and how great ethanol is so i mean i'm going to. do it he's going to hear it is not yours it isn't but a question. we could all be driven out of facebook because he talks about misuse of facebook who who uses does the pentagon hear social media manipulation programs the
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pentagon sockpuppet army did they may be going to somebody else is going to say they're doing it when do they investigate u.s. government ok marc we've run out of time on that note here many thanks to my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. see you next time and remember crosstalk. reason why north korea is trying to develop the capability to. prevent japan and the united states from assisting south korea in case of contingencies because. the missile capability is capable in japan and the united states north korea can say the americans and japanese if.
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we would. nuclear weapons. which would make. those get a little bit cooler than. you but i you. know both i'm sure wasn't but i guess what kind of. sign of this is. she refused. to. wear the blue he will get a good area for him and it's. never really know for sure but this is been.
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you know. when i started no i. covering the german federal elections where it's. one of. the above. that's considered to be the big winners in this election. it's the euro skeptic alternative to germany part of the celebrating. the first time that they have actually been elected into the protest. against the right wing parties getting. all the headlines.


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