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cross-linking f.b.i. gate i'm joined by my guest albums under me curious he is a writer on legal affairs as well as the editor in chief of the duran dot com we also have bigger allege he's a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics and of course we have dmitri barr bitch is a political analyst with sputnik international rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate your joining us here visiting moscow and you have a great legal mind as we all know. i think it's fair to say this is f.b.i. kate because it never really was a russian scandal i mean after what eighteen months not a shred of evidence but we have day after day after day enormous amount of collusion bias. inside the inside the f.b.i. i think that's absolutely right they found absolutely nothing after eighteen months of investigation of collusion between the russians and the trunk campaign but what we're discovery is that the tram campaign was. surveyed that people were being
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watched that their e-mails were being read and that that was extreme bias within the f.b.i. with the senior investigator with the f.b.i. now exposed to be sending extremely anti trump e-mails with he's a lover who's also an official of the f.b.i. and struck way indeed absolutely and having discussions about it in the office of the deputy director of the f.b.i. mr mckay who was referred to in the e-mails as an andy what you know i've said this before on this program people on what. their social media if they want to say the president the united states or canada candidate for the united states presidency trump he's an idiot that's fine with me that's a personal opinion but when you start talking about an insurance policy that's when i start getting concerned because these are unelected officials meddling in the
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election. and these are these people are supposed to be a politically least nominal piece there it is really high time for a new church commission to be instituted to investigate the crimes committed and the we want to remind the viewers what the church commission is also the church commission was a commission that existed in the seventy's after the water great weather great crisis it was obvious that during watergate and long before that the f.b.i. and other special series. conducted. on the u.s. territory against u.s. citizens that were eagle that were unlawful and there was widespread. feeling of distrust there were towards. be icy and other special seriousness and the church community was setting their sticky those crimes and set new standards for how the for over oversight and for people and think you know if you make sure
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that more violations are campuses of her into the weeds here as you correctly pointed out we see major wally shows by f.b.i. by the cia and all of us law we also see how they almost they regularly intervene into the political process in the united states the interview so directly that it's almost unbelievable yet it's whatever it's breathtaking i mean you know again one can have their personal taste and attitudes ok and i think that's fair game everyone has an opinion here but when they bring it into the office we have in this case of bruce or his wife a high official in the f.b.i. his wife is working in a fusion g.p.s. where this all of this started from this salacious dossier and his wife was over there yes and then that's not disclosed to the public to see who actually didn't even explode tell his boss at the f.b.i. that he had meetings with christopher steele i mean if that isn't collusion then we
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have to find another word because this is just outrageous europe. actually if we look at these whole presidential election why is no one investigating the cases when our barman quite publicly said these guys will not be elected the president of the united states i assure you he said to g seven leaders wasn't that interference into an election by the acting president but talking about the f.b.i. all grizzlie f.b.i. when they interrogated flynn they had the transcript or here's a group or station with the best the senate so what they did was really ugly the court hearing on the deviations obviously he did not record his going to a conversation he did not remember it because he was on vacation who knows he was probably on the beach drinking pina colada he needn't take any notes ok. something about his qualifications for former or you that's kind of a defense intelligence agency to to get into that situation see something about his
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both occasions but i'm sorry to interrupt you know the very fact that the american media openly discusses the deep state in the american president also rates but into his twitter it already calls for an investigation of the role of the us security services basically if. this situation where michael flynn pleaded guilty for lying for lying to answer i well it all reminds me of stalinist logic you know underage machines start in spring a star prosecutor during the short trials he said that confession is the queen of proof think we know where it ends and so what we have here is all there are a liberal media in the us you know just because you know by him pleading guilty that is just logic yes he pleaded guilty has nothing easy you would expect him to do with justice because i don't want to waste our time on this but if you go through the hillary e-mail scandal how many people lied to the f.b.i. when are not held to you know what's the thing that's really interesting is that so
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much of what we're learning. is happened before the election and i have the impression that all these high f.b.i. officials were so confident the trump would win that they became very complacent bringing their bias right into the office into n.d.'s office ok because the the they could not conceive that the american people would choose differently and then what i'm sure of they're still with is peter struck character apparently there's a lot more messages to read well this is it the there was an intelligence agency or intelligence community which interfered in the u.s. election it was not the russian intelligence community it was the intelligence community of the united states and then when the wrong result. they had to somehow conceal that so they intensified their interference we have more surveillance of
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the trump transition team we have the entrapment because i have no hesitation in calling it that of michael flynn we have this whole investigation that's been launched with special counsel it's really interesting and. michael morrell the former acting director of the cia came out in told us susan glasser over at politico sensually it meaning that there was a ball. and how they dealt with the election of president and he's very transparent and use of the highest ranking cia official to come out and talk about this and he and i and i think he made a big mistake he showed his bias before the election ok he which was remarkable for so many people here are. very open he is generally somebody who is pretty open about what he thinks for especially for an intelligence officer. remind you that he is the one spoken charlie rose of sure that no longer exists for unknown reasons
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that. should be killed secretly for for what russia is going to do is. be for fighting isis. so yes it's not surprising that he is so put there by that but the thing is that the and not quitting the intelligence community is going on with the another bout to quit and the do you want to see it the president of the united states that is the gentleman all three of you that this is turning into a constitutional crisis yes i think it is a constitutional crisis and a very profound work the biggest the united states has faced certainly in more it is more we did in january we had a program if i remember correctly titled. a coup d'etat in this century i think victory means that i think you have the right but it's very disturbing they can't reverse this i said in my introduction who'll investigate the investigators does
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congress have the guts to step up and perform their constitutional role i don't think they did i don't think so and neither because congress has just passed an act which allows to do night and the it's to interfere into private affairs and on russian citizens the pasternak that requires the u.s. government and trump to make reports on the business deals on the connections between the russian businessmen and president putin between high placed russian officials and their relatives or they are acquainted abroad a whole report on the property abroad or the property over there were only two years of laughable about their team and you get this let me just do it very early on it certainly you know what i think laughable about that is that what are the congressmen going to be made to list what lobbyists they meet every single day how much money they take from them there is no accountability when it comes
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a lot being here there was foreign countries interfering in the american election it was we. i don't know who it was exactly but i mean there is not any of that sort of a lot accountability nor will i think in the end will that be anything like the church commission that you were talking about the things i was talking about what the true source of because it's so dangerous i mean it would be it would be able to since i don't know what's going to happen here gentlemen because public confidence is eroding very very quickly i mean i came across a poll under a few hours ago fifty four percent of americans don't trust the special prosecutor right now because of perceived conflicts of interest or not perceived the very real go ahead picture and. they're paradox of this is that the more they try to stitch this together the less they can do it because the more people get thrown into their skin these scandals the more problems there are for the american political establishment so see if this is a situation where there are steps they take next it's going to be even worse and of
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with that could be you know we can actually expect one next year. to say me constitutional means now like possibly forcing to i'm sure there is going to be an attempt to force him to resign without the full blown impeachment process and the. twenty put them in or you gentlemen to jump in here we're going to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and some real news with our team. on t.v. we have a great team we need to strengthen before the freefall world cold and you're better than a legend to keep it so it's at the back. in nineteen i do too that might qualify for the european championships at the very
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last moment no one believed in us but we won and i'm hoping to bring. some of the waiting period to the r.c.t. . recently i've had a lot of practice so i can guarantee you that peter schmeichel will be on the best fall since my last will call him and that stories are as we've. thousand old joe. brush on. life right. left left left more or less ok stuff that's really good. everybody and stephen both towns hollywood guy will suspect a very proud american first of all i'm just george bush and our visa to say this is my buddy max famous financial guru and we're just a little bit different i'm not
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a. good one you know when those up with all the drama happening in our country i'm shooting the brood have fun meet everyday americans more. closely start to bridge that gap this is the great american people. about and under them i did not have quite i didn't know me might. find him and if one came it up about us and assumed a soul but to know me a little much to be still flock. of saying out of the open close to. the. pride of that and then being a doesn't mean i think as you know some of them not from another sunday to the left
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a lot of love the old adage that something as innocent the whole. time minimalist local enough that i'm often simply become a hot item. non-commitment and no one can and must be on the troops near. them some listener count somehow moments from some solar system a gas i'm. counting the night plug in one hour one of the from the one that hit it. welcome back to. for all things considered i'm peter about to remind you we're discussing some real news. ok before we switch gears to net neutrality dimmy want to finish up on what i'm
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calling f.b.i. gate where when you ask me if i expect an investigation of what's going on well in the near future know why because the united states is in fact ruled by their ultra liberal no liberal ideology and you expect this ideology to investigate itself but there were cases in history when to tell you terry and regimes had you know their past misdeed investigated the khrushchev or after ma died in china but for that to happen you have to have real casualties inside the elite so that part of the old way to mitigate it seems that has not yet cut it hasn't happened yet i mean i don't know if people like these are the phrase the low lying through but we have really high ranking people are they going to sacrifice one as proof or maybe somebody that was peter struck i mean we're going to get rid of somebody here to be the fall guy for all this because it's they're not careful a whole thing is going to collapse but what is awful is that no one is immune
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joined question and might be a jewel and for israel but he's also not in you so that they can everyone in their crosshairs and that's a situation that no illegal what it does it looks like it's going to be a mutually assured slaughter and so even there where it's going clearly in russia in russia when it was barry arrested where the guys in there put it bureau simply got tired of fearing here you know they were all under cost and threat so they decided to terminate this situation here but i'm not sure that the united states is there is also what happened when. when does it start because we go to the i mean he started to accuse generals and that was enough enough was enough and that's what mccarthyism basically ended but but we are still far away from the. ok. net neutrality how big of a story is coming out of the f.c.c. because i think it's been under reported and and i look at across the u.s. and people say this is a republican gambit there's
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a lot of red states that don't want to see the internet. or fooled with fear i mean it's i don't know and we united states in the west they like to think of themselves as democratic the only thing that's democratic now is access to the internet that's in danger of has exactly right i think it is a huge story because the internet is now becoming increasingly the vehicle people are turning to to get their news they're not taking it from the mainstream the old traditional media so the way this net neutrality could work is that we could see the invasion into the one remaining free space of the apparatus that is now controlling the rest of the media the ideology that dimitri was talking about so i think this is a huge story i don't think there's any understanding of it amongst most people i did see not because it was written russia russia russia russia russia russia i mean look at that look at the look at the cable stations in the u.s. i mean exception of fox they this was very very much under reported i mean you had
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rachel maddow saying it's important this is it significant but nobody on the left wanted to go there i don't know why did it look it was only a matter of time when their freedom in space with and really remember the ninety years i was in school back there on the internet was just starting to remember the boards and the car would progress to what we have now with the world wide web and it was a new medium. you could do some things then you could do more now you can do a lot of people you know. twenty years ago where there was limited. news coverage there now everybody is there even more so. to some degree than in the print media so now of course everyone understands the needs the american needs the west and its understand that either the control of the internet the limit the access of their
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populations to news that they do not like the information laden i'd like you were that you could get that endless you know down the you know trying to download the you know grain variant on exams or exam the also no and they also know that yes some people will use you know dark net and other sources to get more information but they also know that most people are not going to go that far because only a few people take so much time and effort now to get that information most people know you don't have access that say no longer shows up so we can also go there so we didn't know that's were we have twitter. limiting expression we have facebook look i know that personally ok google and now we have this but it's you know i always look at these things you know do people think about the ultimate consequences because they're destroying the internet in the to take control of it
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they're willing to destroy it first they destroyed their traditional media and the more they destroy the internet it's quite all digital in the way all to tell if they're in regimes you warp but actually you know when i read the traditional media i am a subscriber to new york times newsletter and when the main use cases on the wanted to sing and to talk i thought they would have called the only brevity of their i was working which is nice of you know. if the traditional media is busy with this stuff then it's all good natured all that people turn to internet which is more the version of the room and we all sometimes you know it's nature all that people believe in rumors when they distrust all have reasons to distrust the traditional media so what we see is the main. epic fail of the traditional media that many people turn to the internet and then the state comes down on the internet saying that we want it to be a neutral which means not critical or what no i don't want to do is they want to make sure everybody watches c.n.n.
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m s n b c c's the washington post sees the new york times and makes us and invisible and broadly we're going to make sure that arguing they want to make sure that the internet looks like the american means going to exactly that and i think we're going to be very happy that's why they're so mad up our sport because they don't they're not criminals we want to report confront facts so they could want to accuse us of being the romeo and that's why they accuse us of being pretty guarded tools and that's why they don't so hard on r t simply because they want to see it either mainstream media or it just was ok you know minutes which caters to north korea keeps popping up into the news here is this all about the future the future resume i would say of the secretary of state rex tillerson because again the white house has pulled the rug from under his feet he was saying that the u.s. was open to negotiations with the north koreans which they should that would be the
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logical thing to do without preconditions and then it's pulled back you see a million again is it is this war about to worsen than it is about north korea what is beginning to wonder because of a diplomat which is what mr to listen is supposed to be is there to talk and to talk to the other side and this is the obvious thing to do and yet he's been criticized for saying this and one has to wonder whether there's any real interest in the united states in actually settling the north korean issue but what does this send to the north koreans what does this send to the region ok this is i think this is this talk about destabilizing really what it says to them is that this is not nobody wants to talk to us they want to threaten us instead because we're getting all these three. sounds out of the united states and the one person who is talking about. your nuclear program accelerate your ballistic missile program because it is only an interesting history of the murders he can he kind of pushed back on
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the whole threatening the north korean missile program is tramp's approach to north korea's very is not constructive at all and there where are we from now he's going to make this song making direct threats against north korea and against its leader in the region japan south korea. attempts military aggression against north korea this is going to lead to a regional geopolitical catastrophe with mass casualties in south korea in japan in north korea possibly another country it's possibly even russia and let me ask you now and we ask let's hope none of this happens or in mass casualties among american personnel and civilians living in south korea mind you that there are more than twenty thousand american soldiers and officers stationed in south korea plus me more civilians with the u.s. passports that live in south korea when you're there in seoul they're put be destroyed on the first day i live here is the of such action so delicious and of
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course to do moving to. and gives us capital so he will get one exactly he will and you've been predicting this we'll see if it's going to come true you know but i think this will go back to ideology. in the problem with the u.s. foreign policy approach here is that if you negotiate it's deemed as a piece made in this is screwed up because this is not what diplomacy use diplomacy is i give you a little bit and you give a little bit and try to resolve we talk and we talk but we do you know and this is the problem is that if you negotiate it's considered weakness and he's meant in this is not the way it should work or. this is a more general problem or u.s. foreign policy. they can't talk to anyone anymore it's just important sanctions or threatening military action you know george bush jr was accused of sending f. sixteen s instead of we males but i feel nostalgic of him now because he when he was less kind of belligerent in his policies and if i did read you know you know we
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would have been rapidly running out of time here but the add to what dean the just said there's a do we have a commander in chief that's actually the commander in chief see this this is what and that's another layer well this is the problem because i do think we do i mean we've got a commander in chief who is on the political scene in washington and who doesn't want to appear weak because politically he's going to be very dangerous for him to be appear weak because as dana says the united states in its foreign policy has no reverse gear it cannot go it's a very good race and so every member of the of the do you. think that what we do minus one or the way people are driven to suicide will be serious that's how people are driven to suicide be serious shortly if you are serious about your intentions but it's so steamy dangerous and the for the tragedy of hope and career don't say that all the trumpets to blame i'm sure liberal media would say it's just crazy
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drum no a bar much destroyed a lot of institutions and he introduced this style of diplomacy ok demon would run out of time here many thanks to my guests here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r.t. this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see when x. time and remember cross topples. about your sudden passing i found we just learned you were yourself in taking your . last abang turned. up to us we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry for me i could so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each
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