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there was no negotiation a compromise position should have been official the kurds or alfre offered that at the time they are offering that now that's not and has a habit of choosing the wrong side well you know it's one one one chooses the wrong side one peace and that's what the kurds are doing now let's hold the kurds have a voice at the congress of the syrian minority that is going to be held in sochi you know in the coming days but actually if you look at the pattern it repeats itself in syria you know. the foreign invaders i'm sorry they have been trying to remove the syrian government created more and more problems you know that the states intervened in syria in order to replace a person who was not actually and they west and mr ross up and they've got that terrible problem with the islamic state you know which was much more dangerous than ten hours of state them together eight. wanted to put its own people in power in syria they've got there could be a stage right next to the border. it's the worst possible outcomes if you look at
it i mean how does this change mean the rest of syria we have reconciliation going on the syrian army is an essential one against these terrorist groups it's just the border area between syria proper and turkey is it a new conflict a very different and it can be confined and turkey will have to stop near its borders every single power. that has a significant kurdish population iran iraq syria is opposed to an independent kurdish state so it's not just to ricky every single business how does it marcos' billion to the huge minority of kurds inside of turkey and what's going on in syria i mean we see. a lot more blowback now with that and that's obviously the concern and the regime has forbidden kurds to protest against this you from. stickley named
operation and believe all of these invading syria and bombing cities. you know it to me let's frame this properly who has all along been you know turkey the war against syria couldn't exist without the turkish border or this disneyland it provided for jihad as to the bombs training centers that the u.s. and saudi arabia set up to funnel salaries and there is turkey is still supplying al qaeda with weapons for offensive they are literally as reported in the western mainstream media doing joint patrols with al qaida and attacks on afrin as they call someone else terrorists it's just it's orwellian and this could lead to turkish confrontation with the us their proxies aren't having a good time in africa and they're already in the already thinking about the fact that he. has lost in syria and now it's going to potentially suffer another loss against a nato ally it's really quite amazing well i think again to come here is that we're
here in the troops i think what the german media is saying about there to go and that mark has just called of that that is most likely the troops but what i want to go on they say in the ball dream is now is also true you know germany is not democratic you know it to prevent every go and beat into their citizens on the german territory during the elections so no one is good in this situation and the good thing is that they they must each other we see the truth now we couldn't see it in the beginning seems to me that we're going to have to we'll be doing this in the future but this conflict is definitely transforming and it has. much less to do with syria than it does with foreign players inside of c.b.s. gentlemen i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on real news stay with us.
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thought in one thousand and ninety seven we saw that in one nine hundred eighty seven and we're going to see it again probably in a very near future because the underlying design of this capitalist system has not been modified to account for changes in technology over the past fifty sixty seventy year and we keep having these catastrophic failures. across europe municipalities are taking their water supply back from private companies who have a timid speedball the social simple song alone even some company gets full else with so they can find private companies to take over the utilities many bought a telescope of a lab solicitously couple to buy them the going to go buy been this is a stick with them out of political office of more use than bill bill if bill brought up locals are ready to stand up for the basic human me. right the access to
water is about water but it's also over much more than war it's about the hurt and the redistribution of. us. debt downwards we want to. welcome back across like we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle to mind you we're discussing some real news. ok gentlemen let's switch gears here. we're being promised i don't know if it's going to happen victor but this week we'll get that four page memo released to the public that is details the use or misuse of pfizer warrants to listen in to american citizens the g.o.p. of course is spinning this is some kind of silver bullet the left is dismissing it
as a conspiracy if there is another silver likely to change the trajectory of the investigation and that he is. he's way towards. elected american president however however it's part of. the. of the american political war there now the what democrats and security seriously this started to. hoping to move really back to that we see that and yes they will go one they will try to remove but at the same time whether the same time. the damage that they're suffering it's not just them but the in the global system he couldn't you're consistent in your position and i like it i'm going to see how it plays out i'm keeping track of everything you've said on this mark. but still i would say countering victor is that so. russia gave his yielded nothing ok.
a couple few indictments but none of it has to do with russia but if this four page memo from what we've heard. this is a masking of the highest levels of the f.b.i. and it shows that how intelligence was weaponized against political foes that will be the real scandal is i don't know if the media if the liberal media will reflect that but in fact that maybe what's happened i don't have but you might have a problem with that but i don't think the majority of the media has a problem with that and i don't think the majority of the american people really care on either side what's going to this point there was a c.n.n. political reporter my have. rested who admitted on inside politics this week that all c.n.n. talks about is russia russia russia this russia gate but no one no one no no who cares no one in the united states actually cares i can agree with victor i don't think this will be
a silver bullet either way i think that you know this this witch hunt will continue i'm far more interested in the way that the democrats and the media have tried to frame it they have argued through this anonymous anti propaganda propaganda unit the. the alliance for securing democracy hamilton sixty eight dashboard which purports to follow a group of russian bots even though twitter says they've shut them all down. that. they're not going to name that didn't they never name who who they're actually following that they report purport to be promoting there are actually following you by what i know because i've never i've never had had any of these things that are talking about i mean last week these russian bonds that they follow the primary thing that russia was promoting it via social media was monday motivations because obviously most of monday motivations is a putin is plot against the. you are talking about syria you're saying the masks
are coming i think in this case the masks are coming off as well masks have been kind of an off what the last i would say two or three years you know. at least. who were at least he kept it secret here ok he tried to influence the internal politics of the united states but he secret files and he had to die before you know the truth can he probably wouldn't have used twitter knew he would probably wouldn't he was simply a much more decent person then he was what you wanted people who were he was not he was much more effective and he wasn't he was more tell you what he was going to answer so that's what i say it was more distant guys who are acting now i mean mr courtney who was first accused or against hillary clinton when he didn't stop the investigation against her right before the election know he has been lying on lies by the media you know it's just a person who was ill that. property and you know you know the funny thing is now
is being considered for professors position teaching ethics. peter struck will be his teacher you can see exactly exactly i said all that big yesterday would make a great. you know but this is very serious right here because it shows i mean i've said this on this program before you know people have a right to their opinion and you can say whatever you want about the president but if it's connected up with your job in stonewalling or creating an artificial. trap appears to be rattling you know there's a lot of other text messages we need to rebut that it certainly is suggestive you know russia is really not the bar thrush russia gate is about american security serious is the american intelligence community. and constitutionally. in syria itself into the american politics. is is it. about the american media that
instead of doing its job he's doing the bidding of the cia though the f.b.i. and other agencies does not come to the state they're going to talk about an elected officials special connected with special interests with me you can really feel that is what rush again is about this i think we all agree on that and not only you know the media is acting on this but you know the partisan divide. there's always the hope that our nuff republicans will be outraged by trump's behavior to swing this because we have to remember that russia gate is a smokescreen designed to keep this going until midterm elections so the democrats can ride this out and then they can push for impeachment why because impeachment is not a legal process it's a political process so it's a vehicle that you vehicle for them to go after trump but it doesn't necessarily have to come back with any evidence of collusion again there again pushing for
obstruction of justice charges and the trumpets says he's willing to testify in person which is if you're used to your admits that he should rely on house he should reply at writing that would be heard. there are two prongs where the opposition to the american political establishment the deep state is going the first bond is pressure when family members jurors question and. there may be an attempt to put in the ultimatum in front of either you step down at some point we're trying to push is going to be that is never ever going to happen because you're in the second but we will find again the second is going to change is that a section of justice charges wherever the mother is going going going will find gentlemen you know all right i want to switch gears here to the what i thought was really one of the most incredible examples of the discussion there was a jordan peterson on channel four discussing with the. interviewer
kathleen newman. initial reactions gentlemen because i thought it was very very interesting an ideological conflict and i think the winner was quite obvious david did you watch it why did. i find it all just a part of the same thing you know disfranchising the people your opinion does not count if it doesn't coincide with the opinion of the mainstream. elite. and this is the same thing with the elections you voted for mr trump but your vote is not quite good to me it's you're not eligible to vote people if you fall for someone like drop and you know the lies continually but i mean what it was interesting about victor is that what i thought i mean my position sitting in this chair here is how this interviewer was constantly trying to reframe the argument over and over again based on a rabid ideology i would say we end without facts and that's what made the debate
really interesting is because peterson always came back with facts and knowledge and that's what i thought the juxtaposition was here was rabid ideology and it was done very sloppily and that's why there are so many new viewers who watch this deeply who are talking about it why there's this gap this happens every time when you see somebody saying something that is outside that framework right that the liberal western media tends to to force on people and this type of these types of programs were different subjects where you just concerning gender were the concern and politics. and once you get out of that work people actually start watching start talking about this because people do not believe yes they're there and we knew that she and them think yes that's one thousand percent. but there are me that do not believe that and the
they want to see they want to see the truth being called or if anything see a review debate yes now these are the debates that the mainstream have all the time by squashing. channels and the media outlets like c.n.n. like endless and b c a.b.c. n.b.c. and so forth they really really creating a problem for themselves because eventually millions of people if you see the absolute of the news outlets they are the quintessential examples of ideological think and people go somewhere else and i think i'm here i agree with you completely the most amazing thing was how she can pin uli tried to repackage what he was saying in terms that she would rather argue against to build up straw men so what they're saying so what you're saying what you're saying and you know that's not what i said and that was actually the majority of the it's no that's not what i said you're trying to read what you want into what i said and you know this
continue from the both state and they're both actually arguing from ideological positions he just presented his in a lot more reasoned arguments and this you saw it was an interview turned into a debate and i think it was train really one of them more than just the style of it i think there was i there's a lot of things that i very very heavenly disagree with jordan peterson with but his talking about he didn't use the words but he you know talking about evolutionary biology. he's talking about social biology right about fundamental social logical biological differences between the sexes which which i agree with he talked about the difference between a quality of of potential of opportunity and. between the forced equality of outcome which i agree with completely and what he's talking about there is to me in this particular issue the diff. prince between classical
feminism which was about providing that equality of opportunity and where this is go i don't agree that it's marxist in the slight it's actually postmodernism stolen from the frankfurt school which as far as i'm concerned is anti marxist but it's they're pushing a forced equality of outcome which goes against these social i think that if you go actually there was one out of time gentlemen i think that's why we're actually was victories one that's why so many people watch it because they realize what the play here twenty four seven is ideological nonsense many thanks to my guest here in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here already this is the end of our broadcast segment stay with us for the extended version on our you tube channel see you next time and remember cross talk was.
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can. mean. it's him in the summer morning and i'm on a bus headed down south from chinatown new york there breathless driver speeds up on the ice who really. am traveling across the states in a snowstorm because of a book. written over despair of twenty years back i'm forced from the mining areas to be stunned kentucky the book by italians corner. is a monumental collection of world history it tells the struggle of the words bills to round mining of coal when amy grants would come to the area to work well paid but often has faded jobs the book tells the story of harlan county
coal mines for shutting down one after another i do not expect to find a lively city when i drive into the heart of i find a ghost of a city where people are stuck like car turns from black and white picture their stories and their. have not changed much from those recorded by pushed fields research and that they are leaving me in this journey. or. well we really don't know what he'll be. back would mean in thirty. plus at least two it will be.
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see it there i would say oh. i see there. any other. field. i find remnants of the mining history or longer memories of the casualties in the hard labor are alive in the stories told by the young and the like they're not had for the glory of collective struggle and hard work paid off. speaking to the locals barson saloons he can see that their life was and still is mine mine is harder now. their collective legend and whether played a part where said when try to steer survive the war and disappearing before day i ask. of the rose parade rest. in their stride
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through. the group you won't want to hear that there's no water in the mine and soon you would have to drive through water it would get it over your knees and. the horses would have to pull through the opponent's moon and then they would like to bow folders for tracks sometimes when they'd run out of traffic people here named were you know anywhere. there's nothing for him today and there have been all the young pay for the turning to. alcohol. and. if it were someone would have to stay and. say our government would get interested in this place this part of kentucky think we. could make it but if they don't i'm there every day. in this
arcade until ten o'clock tonight so i'm talking to some of the best music of two thousand and thirteen rendon playing songs but all. the it's all. in one thousand nine hundred i was the first woman to work in this one particular mine and my job was what they called the belt boy and then they started calling me the belt person because i was a female so when i would go underground everybody would be kind of gathered to see this woman coming out of the lines you know and then i remember my face would be all black with the coldest since i was a little bit vain so i would have a handkerchief and i would wipe my face off.