tv The Alex Salmond Show RT March 29, 2018 2:30am-3:01am EDT
just how do you call that hell. and i'm delighted to be joined by the best i'll feel welcome places all mine alex growing up ninety bts grew up in a room of the gypsy family what was that like. for a lot of people looking outside it was extremely hard but i got to be honest if i'm a it wasn't people looking in and think we were very very poll but to be fair with you it was a rich life you lived off the land and i was born on the side of the road in a caravan but you know that i didn't know any different your families stapled what was that time academy and drives and things to do but i didn't door to door selling listen from an early age of eight years old i was cold calling on on doors and selling tom mcclintock of school well the hard knocks of life are the ones that chisel you or make you the person you are says about like political canvas if you get a saw you get just so long to get your picture across before that door shut your face
this in the e.u. have one of the best lessons you can learn in life is learn how to read people and by candice in the door instantly you know whether you'll get a good reception or a bad reception and you have to find children that every time so you've got thirty seconds before that door closes so that was your butler and then it was unusual for egypt see a lad like yourself to become an entrepreneur or do you think about the leaves entrepreneurship you know with a good grace of god i've been lucky enough to take it a little bit further than one stock business and business or been involved with have become national businesses and one particular business i'm involved with now is europe's largest residential mobile home park operation but then it wasn't all plain sailing for you when you started when you got into mobile phones push was your first big break flu yeah well i did very very well. i was in the van hire
business and that business was doing all right i actually thought i could walk on water until i hit i was twenty years old and it was as if somebody not only pulled the rug or why but i set it on far signed on and from there on them when i got a job in a mobile phone shop and begged them play for the job i was sleeping in my car at the time so i'd done a whole complete three six day of where at where i come from when i got the job there learnt the business six weeks and up my own shop within eighteen months we had thirteen stores with then what i'd like to do was got a mortgage purchase the freeholds of the shops so one company on the shop's the other company was a tried in business and we then sold out to one of the subsidiaries of vodafone and we kept the freehold of the properties and what did your family think about the
success of the sale or gotten yourself feel that the cia watch yourself will be you'll be sleeping in the car again before you know it i come from a very very supportive family my mother and father i couldn't ask for better people life had their trials and tribulations and suffered. through indignities our belief but that has made them better people and i have had the privilege of learning from those. what i would record hardships for them. and it's in our man has to know where he's from to know where he's going and so awfully that the there's a great deal of selling the mobile fords was there you decided to move into something you also knew about a boat which was actual homes i bought my first my bar home park sixteen years ago in rumford and to die we've built that business to sixty two residential my bio
home parks was your own back about. a travelling and a travelling family as a religious family was at that back of you still isn't suddenly knows about what people really want in our mobile home park but it must be me who better to buy a caravan from than a gypsy we've lived breathed and slept and we know them better than anybody and i would say now you know caravans have moved down the retirement mobile homes that we sell now are virtually houses that's not the only business should and we have diversified boffin terms of what you do but also you know in the states in florida now you know we have my bar where fifteen parks in florida we're looking to expand and grow that business we also are in a company called best park and finance which also loans and does finance for people that are looking to buy a park and so looking back you go back to your boyhood do you think which you know
is most people would describe as you came from adversity because it's not the easiest backbone to how do you think that there's been an advantage for you or do you think that it could all work where we had back then it had been you know your natural entrepreneurial fleer would have taken over i actually believe it's what's in your heart if you've got the heart to push forward if it's in you as a person from whatever background you're from you're going to do well because remember we've all got different qualities just because somebody is a good manager and they're not. good on true printer doesn't make that person wrong actually makes them right because they found their flair in what like from my own school be. a chap called mr harbison who's a many successful builder and the love guru but when i was alive and he was a great benefactor of the local school and every so often a prize giving he'd come along and this he was a rich guy and they were
a very famous guy and a very generous guy and he tell us all a stake in our studies a bowl of promise he'd left school at thirteen i never quit equated you know him leaving school at thirteen becoming a multi-millionaire the richest guy in peril a great benefit to the school with tow the rest of us to speculate or studies so you see we want to go to schools when you talk to young people who are boys your best age what i would say is this and this is my message to everybody is nobody should ever put you down and it is in you to rise up through whatever ash is that you come from and i swear this and i mean this openly i've seen people from all walks of life do well but it doesn't matter if you're educated street wise or all completely an academic it's all it's up to you to make it happen and instill in that in our children is going to make them succeed for instance i
doubt believe in science to a child you are clever i actually prefer to say to them my god you're trying hard because it's the trying that will make you six eight i'm not particularly a clever person but what i will do is i'll put five hours in with somebody loni put one if i was in a capsule if they are for best philosophy for you but for youngsters watching most the show who want to be successful in life what would that philosophy be do what you laugh love what you do and you'll never work a day in your life. and somebody watching this has our young alphabets coming to the door to sell them a new driveway what would your best is that our person be always listen. the best thank you so much for for doing to be something for you this is called the queen. which is garlic scott's garlic fun loving cup and what you do squeeze of will you stick with whiskey only scotch obviously not clear and then you pass it won't your friends only of course friends thank you very much thank you pleasure man thank you
very much now we turn to politics often make it scarce and bones by from grievous political and personal setbacks first little imput or pick in two thousand and eight a candidate for the liberal democrat presidency by two thousand and ten dumped from his previously safe parliamentary seat amid government how do you respond i asked lambert that very question a few days ago. well but all but welcome to the alex i'm unsure and thanks for the introduction well i want to tell you back to that moment of the two thousand and ten general election you've been m.p. for there the news you were one of the best known of the liberal democrats in the house of commons the liberal democrats will do well in that election you could have no expectation that you were both to lose your own parliamentary seat not only of course but you still lost it how did you how did you feel that mate. when you saw things moving against you personally devastated i'm not going to lie about it i was
twenty five to one on to hold the seat and i didn't put any money on that because i was so sure i was going to win and then during the count it began to look close and then i became very close mates and said i think you might lose and it's very hard to describe that feeling it's the almost car crash sense you have in your stomach that almost go into physical shock but i had to get through the evening and i stood on the stage and my competitor who beat me was so surprised he had no plan so i've had to tell him what to do and i tried to maintain my decorum at the time what next was i was straight on to the b.b.c. coverage and gerry paxman are some very snide questions and i put them right i lost that fair and square and so initially i held it together and after a couple of weeks it really started taking its toll and you feel a sense of bereavement and displacement because as you say i thought i was heading perhaps even to a ministry position if we were in coalition and instead i was heading for the dole
office and just two years previously you'd been nearly favorite the campaign to be president of your party so it was a rapid the reversal of fortunes so the one she got over there michelle shocked what was your approach to getting back on your feet will you maintain a kind of momentum even after you lose almost as if you are in denial you carry on expecting to be called for interviews and for a while you are because it was a curious. i was the scout that people wanted to talk about michael portillo can talk about that same experience and then they do this is something new a new and myself i didn't want to comment but you know the feeling of self and your curiosity you're a talking point to some extent the object of humor i was on i got news for you the morning after i'd lost they'd put me beforehand expected me to pull out but of course that was the subject of humor you laugh at the time but not laughing inside and over time i lost that momentum and i lost direction if you like i lost my
narrative i had been an m.p. i expected to be an m.p. and there was nothing new role civically in my area i looked out the window and thought what do i do next. you understand how it's just the two charts overlay them one is the u.s. dollar one is the big prize as the u.s. dollar has moments of strength in the otherwise long multi decade bear market. you say pressure on bitcoin as dollar were just bear market and its new all time lows on the dollar index below seventy you'll see it going to new all time highs but the dollar is the devil's currency the dollar is different currency that supports the establishment that supports the charlatans and you know it does have a strong base but the trend is zero.
the most expensive fish in the world each one is selling for tens of thousands of euros it continues to grow its entire life if it was thirty years old you might have a two ton fish out there and yet they don't get that big today because we're way to good catching. it's only a much larger mission was one that was much more widely distributed we have politician. that are in office for a few years they have to get reelected everything is very very short term our system is not suited and is not cleared for long term survival and that's why we have the catastrophes that we have.
been watching my bill on the style of this i mean an election is an exhausting process i can state and see election joining us gentlemen. and the mainland. college for the election of course is spent so even when you won in a lifetime and i won nine in a rule you will still feel that the of two off the election exhausted. but i was wonderful to be to the have that feeling until last so that it's a kind of double hit is it not it is a personal level it's really difficult it's personally embarrassing i'm not going to lie it's embarrassing because you have to walk down streets and you know that over half the people didn't vote for you and there's a second part which is humiliating you have to face the staff all of whom are going to lose their jobs because you were responsible for employing them in the constituency and in parliament and you have to say i'm sorry the point blaming anyone else it's your shift and you take the rap whether you feel that it's really
fair or not there are three reasons i lost one of them was my responsibility so you have to do that they've all got to find new jobs you've got to shut down your office within five days the parliament isn't kind of out that they want you out so the new person can be in there and there's no legal office in westminster in westminster you have to get your stuff out very quickly and they really push and i understand why and after that it gets quiet and you are start asking for more first of all my for what i meant to do and secondly how did i end up here and it's from hero to zero and eventually my finances dried up you get used to get a pretty good settlement when you lost like that and the money had gone i still had the same debts couldn't get rid of the mortgages and then i became insolvent so it went down and down and down and it just felt to me that there was nothing i could do to get work you probably that oversaw the worst period and that circumstance over thirteen years as a an m.p. which made it very difficult to pick up your previous career. and very difficult to
move politics at you after taking that particular drug over a prolonged period of time you know how addictive it is to go into parliament to be part of an institution which is kind of looks after you and you've got friends and you've got a rhythm which is very demanding maybe ninety one hundred hours a week in my case but it's predictable and it's all gone literally over now. in five minutes if you like from the point of the announcement to the point of you accepting the defeat i found that transition hard luckily i had been in the private sector for about a decade before hand done work in human resources and marketing so i had options but i couldn't see those options but more to the point other people saw me as the failed m.p. not as a potential employee i wasn't even getting to interview stage so why didn't you say look the best way to do this is to cut my ties with politics the best of the received from mobile democrats but just salute my political career is at least
suspended promote. it in terms of trying to separate you from the politics and it was even that difficult did you consider the or or was the ties to the liberal democrats too strong i tried to maintain a relationship i kept going to the demo of anse political feel right i was criticized by lib dems members and other people very senior in the party for having screwed up my constituency exactly for the reason you said it all that so promising in reality it wasn't quite so rosy for the lib dems but that's not what it only lost seats of course the game votes but the last five seats that they did put all of us i know that the others who were in the same situation and we were all regarded as the ones who got it wrong not the party but ourselves and i got some stick for that you lost a safe seat for the lib dems and it had been a safe seat for much of the last century so you're dealing with that and eventually i wouldn't say that i cut my ties with the lib dems it just became too painful and
i was willing to do work i went around helping byelection and so on but i threw in the towel because it was utterly pointless and personally corrosive because every time i did it reminded me that i'd lost and over the course of two years from twenty ten to twenty twelve i would say i got to my lowest ebb possibly in my life didn't have any income couldn't pay my bills had the repossession people coming over from the. telling me about how they were going to take my house away and no idea how i was going to turn that around so i hope that you. it was involving a conversation with steve chalk he runs a church very. god church if you like he could see i was drifting it's about to start sanity but he's really almost a humanist and i remember that wednesday night and he said find a narrative and you'll be alright and literally that evening i recognized it i talked to my then partner about it and i started thinking still took on year and a half for me to begin to put that into place but i remember that night was the
change and i could go another way if i hadn't had that direction if i wasn't willing to try and start fighting but i could have just ended up in the gutter but i tell a story. that you yourself well what i searched out was a realisation that i had never really intended to be an m.p. it was something i did but it wasn't who i was for me it's empowerment i suppose i would summarize it and i thought about it a lot i want to help the to help people be the best they can be including myself and i was discounting my own welfare to zero just trying to help other people are i wrecked relationships because i was so obsessed with being an m.p. and serving people i didn't know so well and then i began to change and gently i found things which worked so i got involved with a group called the motorcycle action group that was my first proper job it was and still is something i do because i believe in most cycle rights people's freedom and they welcomed me they weren't judging me the way i felt judged for so many years and so now i had an income and i was declining financially low rate beginning to
turn things around then i got a little bit of broadcasting and i realised was good at that and all of that was about that narrative about helping people be the best they can be whether they're on my program or they just want to have a go at me that didn't matter to me but i'm not going to lie again it took probably five years for me to settle for twenty ten to twenty fifteen just a couple ask questions the. then the commons authorities ever try to contact you either to see you know how you get on or turn out of with the seal listen with a seminar for people who lost their seats just to check up on the welfare of past m.p.'s and would like you to contribute to it there was only contact of that case so it will feel contact their was an economic welfare contact because i always found the staff there who i've respected and i think they were unfairly attacked with expenses and so on that they had a different role will go into that now but they were really considerate they wanted me to get the package i was in title tune it was a lot of money at the time without that i would have become bankrupt to have lost
my house in terms of astor aftercare there isn't much they don't say you're an m.p.'s lost his seat we understand that's very dramatic partly because that's not what the public think the public are not sympathetic to fail politicians or politicians who've lost their seat and i think it would have probably cause some heat in parliament if there'd been all this money to help but you know what it should be there because at the time i didn't have a family. was not obliged to pay people schooling and everything else but if you've got two children and you got a mortgage and you got a wife who said what do we do now there's not much of an answer part from when the money runs out i'm not short of a man to sell a house so in that sense parliament i think is understandably cautious but it's not a kind place to lose your seat so what's next for lentil but i think the narrative that i started developing in twenty twelve was really discovering what i've always been meant to do including in parliament and that's empowering other people i love
doing broadcasting as do you and if you do it right it's not a mean activity you can help people shine and put their often controversial views forward i've never really been aggressive enough to be the top flight alpha male class in parliament but i don't need to be like that now if i go home at night and think i made the world a little bit better or little bit more informed than it was yesterday and if i can . pay my bills let's be honest that it's been a good day and both it will help pay the bills appearing in ali's armature unit total to the quick i've always wanted one of the if i can get you on you know you know the drill get the whiskey in the quick possible your close friends only scotch whisky that is fantastic at value tonight global for the thank you very much but thank you no for a second political interview peter tatchell was denied victory in the barents sea by election and was one of the filthiest electoral contests of the twentieth century how did he reinvent himself as an international human rights and l g b t
activists i spoke to peter recently. bit of tatchell here when you were selected as the candidate the labor candidate one of the safest labor seats in the country and then to meet you one you must of thought that you'd be able to take your political campaigning to the floor of the house of commons i certainly did and the defeat in ninety three was quite a blow it wasn't like she wrote my book the battle for burns the about the byelection that the fourth scale of what happened dawned on me because. i've been physically involved in a soldier going up canvassing on the doorsteps there were two attempts to run me down the car there were bricks thrown through my windows was an arson attempt on my flat. you know i had nearly all the teeth in my mouth chipped and cracked as a result of violent assault during that campaign and the run up there was to effectively campaigns against you one was that you were seen as a far left politician which you could see was
a legitimate. part of campaigning the last rule is another matter that all the father policies i stood on and now are the future poles of this country you know it's time i said we need to go she hated settlement in northern ireland and that's what happened to the national minimum wage what they said was extreme you know it's now reality well i sometimes have the same thoughts process. things up to a certain extent bruising but legitimate but what i think people fifty five years distance people watching live at five years ago they would fain incredible is the extent to which the homophobia in the campaign was openly declare them in the was a a real labor can that who as i remember went to a bit of a campaign song on actual is a pop it doesn't was that the word used how did you. in jewett of that sort of that sort of campaigning that sort of gutter level of campaigning in those days the level of public umma phobia was much greater than today and so. you know there
wasn't the same public understanding and acceptance of gay people and the hope was that eventually i might get through but in the end the welter of negative stuff was just completely overwhelming so bill any moment over these last thirty five years we'll look back in the balance it byelection and say well maybe it wasn't such a bad thing not that discussed in each of the campaign itself but but what the actual outcome in terms of it would give you more freedom to pursue the campaign should you pursue it yes sometimes i think you know if i had won that byelection and it up in parliament. i probably would have ended up as a rather ineffectual backbench m.p. . i used to say like jeremy corben but now of course he's the opposition leader the leader of the labor party and probably on course to become the next prime minister
so you know fate has some curious twists leave occasionally been tempted back into into elections but haven't really gotten in with the green party and we'll get another member yeah but you have got through that second thoughts for any particular week well no it's really primarily been as a result of all these campaigns i've done i've been beaten up so many times and particularly the beating by garvey's bodyguards in brussels and by neo nazis in moscow in two thousand and seven that has left me with some brain and i damage and a bit of affection asked i think if i was an m.p. i could probably do the can sit in to work very well all the parliament to work right i think to do both because i struggle. and i'm saying that because i like to give one hundred percent and i wouldn't want to do something i didn't feel i could do under present and really do the best possible job so it was really considering
that those those those injuries and the consequences that maybe decide to not pursue that further with actual thank you for giving me one hundred percent today thank you. today we've met three very different people but with one common theme every single one of us undergoes challenges in life sometimes it's deserved sometimes not and sometimes a mixture of the two i would defy in her life and how we respond. bastard beyond exam a disadvantage in life to underline romany but glen has proved an advantage in his success lead the open cut that the left wing prize is a politics not just a way and there's nobody built his career as a commentator touchable says he is more fulfilled as a human rights campaigner than he would have been as a backbench parliamentarian in their own separate ways to provide for example of
inspiration and the before recognition and respect it does mean on me and all of the szell good bye for now. how does it feel to be a share of the greatest job in the world it's as close to being a king as any job there is what business model helps to run a prison now we just do it on like i said you know b.t.o. visitation i don't know what comes anymore we don't have to serve them anymore it's cost effective that's what they want to. acknowledge they don't give a damn if you do the charge on that they're actually paying us to put it back and.
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come up with the truth. come on then you're not going about the how i live and i'm mad at that damn of them on the numbers i'm. not bad with the internet but oh november creative i say i give them that i don't know what about on it and without being a size it again is about. you know the what. a lot of folks what if i did. not know. about the summit that's was nothing like the absolutely loop. of.
this i was told headlines on international amid escalating tensions with russia the u.k. adopts a new national security strategy ranking side islamist terrorism on his list of main threats. and with many countries joining britain in expelling russian diplomats over the souls bre attack m.p.'s in neighboring island to voice their opposition. to take part in the action we gauge reaction in the irish capital. i think it's a needless threats to our sovereignty i've served look for the proof and i haven't heard any i think it's disgrace across the country and it's condi and it's just it's totally amazing the what they're doing tens of thousands of parisians have joined a silent much an owner of a murdered survivor who was recently.