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order reigning in crude oil to cut their purchases substantially we cannot allow the world's leading sponsor of terrorism to possess the planet's most dangerous weapons. we cannot allow a regime that chance death to america and that threatens israel with annihilation to possess the means to deliver a nuclear warhead to any city on earth. just can't do it while london and moscow oppose donald trump their own policy some taking to civil disobedience to revenge yet another war to follow nato interventions in yugoslavia iraq libya and syria i want to ask do you think. are they reading the iranian people have. made. for war with the run. out well joining me now via skype from washington d.c. is madame benjamin co-founder of the ngo code pink with
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a thanks for coming back on the show as a why demonstrate against this man brian oak from the state department or the policies of brian look he's the head of trump's iran action group. well i couldn't stand listening to the guy and what he was saying it was a deja vu of here we go again lies distortions manipulations to get the american public ready for some other in crazy military intervention so i felt they had to get up there and say something some people might not even know about this war that you seem to be accusing the president of starting what influence does that hudson institute because in the video you see this hudson institute zero is a go go canada weinstein who regulates v.o.a. read you for your radio liberty what is this small group ng where they announce things about us foreign policy well it's one of the many right wing neo cons think tanks that exist in washington d.c. the same ones that did the propaganda that iraq had weapons of mass destruction and
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was a great threat to the united states and got people ready for that intervention its role is now demonizing iran as the greatest threat to us security and really it just is a voice piece for. john bolton might pump a.o. and brian hook the mission of the middle east but trump one places like michigan because some people believe the rustbelt didn't want more wars why does trump appear to be hawkish suddenly. i think the majority of people in the united states don't want more war but trump has chosen iran as the demon he did from the time he was campaigning saying that the iran nuclear deal was the worst deal ever of course he's even closer than other administrations have been to both the israeli government and the saudi government and he prefers to listen to them over u.s.
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allies like germany france england and russia and china that also signed the run nuclear deal so he seems to need a demon he's made friends with north korea it's quite ironic that the north korean government i'm glad he's doing the diplomacy with north korea but let's face it it's a much more authoritarian government than the iranian government is and yet he is putting all the blame on the run for the spread of terrorism around the world when we should really be looking at our ally saudi arabia well i want to give them side the raeburn a second but then what do you make of trump speech at the u.n. calling on the world to isolate iran. well he is pretending that the world community is actually happy with him withdrawing from the iran nuclear deal which is ridiculous he was followed by macro and who was very clear in saying we need engagement we need to plan this the we need dialogue and. macron is not the only one upset with the united states about this it's all of the other signatories to
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the deal and that's remember the deal with also approved by the entire european union and by the entire security council so the u.s. is the outlier in this and i think the rest of the world except for a few places in the gulf and in israel are seeing the u.s. as going down a very very dangerous path trying to strangle the iranian economy making things miserable for ordinary people in iran and trying to get the people in iran to rise up on the one hand the administration says it doesn't want to it's not going for regime change and yet you have. donald trump's lawyer rudy giuliani just this week talking to the the and me k. the terrorist group saying that we will be overthrowing this government and we will be back in tehran so obviously the what the u.s. wants is to overthrow this regime but what would come after that is the question would it be pure chaos like we see in so many other countries in the middle east
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the m e k considered a terrorist movement by authorities here in london but trump says iran is destabilizing the sovereign rights of nations. i think there is so many there are so many countries in the middle east that are destabilizing each other and it has to be untangled and we need to get all foreign intervention out of the middle east when the us talks about iran meddling in them in the region i say you know iran is in the region it's the us that has been meddling but it would be good for iran to get out of any other interventions in countries beyond its borders just like it would be very good for the united states russia turkey israel all of the other countries that have been meddling and certainly saudi arabia and i think it is always quick bite ironic that when the temp administration talks about the spread of terrorism it doesn't like to look at its own allies who are responsible for so
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much of the terror in the region but of course you may be in effect demonstrating for the policies advocated by london and and moscow the companies involved in the sanctions they don't seem to be taking up what the european union london mosco want which is them to keep trading with iran so far total persia renato daimler and bus and france be a z m m's deutsche telekom they're all following trump or not q london moscow or brussels well that's because the u.s. economy and the u.s. dollar are so strong the u.s. dollar is the currency for trade and when a company is faced with the secondary sanctions from the united states versus the much smaller amount of trade that it could do with iran what does it use it chooses to stay on the good side of the united states so as you are saying despite the
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efforts of the governments in not only europe but in other places around the world they trumpet ministration is unfortunately being very successful in putting the squeeze on these countries and telling them. that if they dare continue tap trade with with iran they will incur the wrath of the united states government so it has been very difficult for companies to continue any run and very difficult for the european governments to try to find a path forward that would keep the iran deal intact. showing the power of america first i mean the end the usa in terms of trump also praised reforms in saudi arabia which you mentioned and blamed iran for the crisis in yemen . yes i mean i don't want to be defending the iranian government and it's up to the people in iran to determine what government they want but to have such hypocrisy on the part of the us when they praise very minor changes in saudi arabia and for
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example when women have been granted the right to drive at the same time that the saudi government throws the very women who have fought for that right to drive in prison at the same time that there is a woman facing be heading in saudi arabia because of the and nonviolent activism she's been doing up bihar on behalf of the oppressed shia community at the same time that saudi arabia is involved in this horrendous bombing campaign in yemen that recently killed a bus load of children and has continued to be targeting civilians and marketplaces and infrastructure and caused this tremendous catastrophe in yemen so it is the height of hypocrisy for the united states to talk about reforms in saudi arabia instead of talking about saudi arabia being the only one of the only monarchist absolute monarchy is in the world today that continues to repress its own people in a terrible fashion you know that bus bomb apparently was
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a low key bluff and bomb that killed all those school children to raise it may of course also supports home sales to saudi to bomb which a bombing in. emon but britain says when it sells arms to saudi arabia that are you being used written carefully reviews sales continually what do you make of the. well if you're reviewed i'm sales continually wouldn't be selling arms to saudi arabia even in the united states there are laws about selling arms to countries that are engaged in work crimes but those are obviously violated constantly as the u.s. sales are gives weapons in the case of giving them to israel or to egypt but the sales of saudi arabia are the number one sales not only from the united states but most of the western democracies so here you have the west saying that it stands for freedoms and human rights and human dignity and equality for women and it sells the
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majority of its weapons to the country that violates all of these principles so it's really about money and it's about the power of the weapons manufacturers located features in your new report war profiteers tell me the bit about the revolving door because you talk about a revolving door between government and arms companies even ahead of the twenty zero three iraq war. well yes we know our report we outline how the major five weapons manufacturers lockheed martin northrop grumman boeing general dynamics and raytheon get such a huge share of the pentagon budget and how the they use that money to pay lobbyists that go in and a lobby for continuing the increase in the pentagon budget but also in favor of endless war because that's important for their marketing whenever there is a chance at diplomacy like in north korea you see their stocks going down lockheed
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martin is the largest manufacturer of weapons in the world and it's wants to maintain the threat of war if not actual war all over because that's what it does is and it really was that is very briefly made that do you think the top administration is going to be letting a war on iran like the one john bolton force or before he was appointed national security adviser i don't think they want to send troops to iran but i do think that they do that they are laying the groundwork for u.s. bombing of nuclear research facilities in iran or some kind of attacks on iran in other countries around the region bolton is certainly been a hawk from many years calling for the bombing of iran he's written it in op ed pieces in the new york times so it's no secret and now he has the ear of the president would have been different thank you thank you for having me on it after the break donald trump continues to call that special counsel what little what role
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did the former f.b.i. boss have investigated nine eleven and the film festival championing voices ignored by the mainstream all this about going about doing going underground. child's seemed wrong wrong when all the world's just all. the world is yet to shape our disdain you can't get educated and engaged in equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground.
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was the reason the bus. boys are right there yet i've put. through some really. welcome back the current threat level for international terrorism in britain is fear but how are you k. and us intelligence services working together to keep us safe let alone events like the bomb of the ariana grande a concert in manchester and its libya connections the new book suggests little has been learned from nine eleven some seventeen years ago specifically questions remain about oversight by the cia and f.b.i. whose former chief robert mueller is now investigating president trump joining me now via skype from indiana is the co-author of the watchdog the cia n.s.a. and the crimes of the war on terror john duffy john thanks for coming on the show to tell me about your interview with clinton and bush tara chief richard clarke and
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white. so important to think about it today given britain's threat level for instance thank you for having me on the show. when my co-author of the book rhino shells and myself sat down with richard clarke that was in the year two thousand and nine so it was you know it was almost a decade after the nine eleven attacks it happened and what he told us essentially was that. cia cable traffic regarding the travel of would be hijackers knowledge ha ha's me and me to our in early two thousand should have come directly to him didn't he he basically surmised he was intentionally taken out of the information loop he told us that very clearly that he in george tenet spoke every day he was there was no lack of information sharing between cia counterterror his office except when it came to this issue the travel of khalid almihdhar and nawaf alhazmi from malaysia to the united states as they left
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a terror plot and summit and then came to los angeles so he go in these and these are the two hijackers of the plane that hit the pentagon yes correct and they had just gone to malaysia there was the like terrorist summit planning in kuala lumpur the cia was well aware of it they were monitoring it with the help of malaysia special branch and they had basically had someone break into khalid almihdhar as hotel room as he passed through dubai and they took pictures of his passport and they found a u.s. visa and there and so that information starts this whole thing and this information comes back into the cia's al qaeda unit which is called alex station and then the f.b.i. agents who are dedicated to that unit wanted to send that information over to f.b.i. counterterror and they were told to hold off and then a whole series of like fake internal communications are sent within the cia to make it look as if that information said it was so we're talking to richard clarke he
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goes into all these details and basically says. when he looks at all the pieces of evidence but the only thing he come up with was the idea that perhaps the cia under the order of george tenet was trying to flip these these two hijackers somehow was trying to operate domestically within the united states which is illegal for the cia to do and was probably using saudi intelligence proxies in order to accomplish this you know we're going to get comment from george tenet who was he doesn't admit to any involvement in the in the attack hundred eighty four people at the pentagon killed i mean you said fifty offices there do you think the american public the taxpayers who have been the told to stump up so much more money for the intelligence services they do that if they knew that even the names of these hijackers of the seven five seven the loon the fifty offices knew about the cables that these guys were all in the yellow pages basically one of the big issues surrounding that particular topic is the n.s.a.
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and the warrantless wiretapping and all of that we were told you know once the edward snowden stuff came out once once it was you know obviously thomas drake was in our book he started that whole thing but once it was definitively proven and public and the documents were available to see the n.s.a. is listening to all of us collecting all the metadata they try to justify it by saying well had we been doing this before nine eleven we could have stopped and that's a huge law and we go into that we explore that the book the fact is when khalid almihdhar and nawaf alhazmi came to the united states they then moved down to san diego where they had a phone that was in the la paz mizo name and multiple times they called yemen a house in sana'a yemen that was an al qaeda switchboard you couldn't call directly to afghanistan so in order to get information to afghanistan out they used this house and yemen and it was a house owned by khalid almihdhar father in law who happened to be
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a top lieutenant of bin laden's who is his good friend from the. mujahedeen days and so the n.s.a. and the cia were monitoring this house it's how they found out about the malaysia planning summit was listening to the calls in this house so just when this period happens where this call is not going out but coming from the united states from san diego to this house that should've been a hot fire emergency because they were on the they were on the watch list anyway just described to me and you describe it in the book what it felt like for you and your co-author when kluck said there was a high level decision in the cia not to share information with the white house it was actually a very stark moment as a kid we thought we were going to have to sort of slow roll and kind of admitting this guy was here this guy heard this thing that kind of build the case but clarke was very ready to lay all his cards on the table and so yes he tells us that that in order to call him you know himself richard clarke out of this loop would have required high level decision at the cia you think don't do you think trump should
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revoke george tenet security clearance like he did with some other people because tenet was one of the people saying that trump shouldn't be revoking security clearances i'm not going to say yes or no right or wrong you know what happened there with trump i mean i definitely could tell you that george tenet perjured himself when he went before the nine eleven commission under oath and that you know i'm not trying to say he's this evil lizard man but i'm sure and a certain level the things he did he meant well or eat possibly had what he considered benevolent motivations but in the end when it fell apart they time and the cia went into this full protectionists know where they protected all of their people anyone involved in wrongdoing that protected when the cia inspector general recommended official reprimands for multiple people in the agency including the director and then a lot of the staff at alec station you know the cia continued future directors
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continue to protect all of these people the same. no there should be investigations don't you know we should dumb down these calls for reprimand so there's a whole it's a whole you know that works to circle it's wagons and protect itself despite the lies that they may have told the public the crimes they may have committed you know when they were trying to achieve their goals you know john duffy thank you well from cia conspiracies to cia cinema the twenty six rained on film festival is open in london defined by a rejection of interference will do common in the film industry influenced by corporations and intelligence services alike it's hosted the u.k. prime me as a film such as the blair witch project dead man's shoes an old boy in his help launched the careers of sacha baron cohen they call me and christopher nolan going underground went down to the view cinema in london's piccadilly to speak to the festivals found at grove. eliot before we get to the significance of this year's raindance festival i understand that one of the film's already been censored by the local council here in westminster system sad but true we got
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a call this morning saying that we can only show this film is from holland is played in rotterdam berlin lot of the big festivals it's one of the few not world premieres that rain dance but we have to buller two scenes in the twenty first century in central london with all that stuff happening up the road. how has rained and changed in over twenty five years this is the twenty you know well now we're all in digital we don't have film anymore and of course on. february fifteenth two thousand and five there was a dramatic moment that's the day the three co-founders of you tube registered the euro and took them another nine months to get it up and then you tube went to e-bay in a part of the google family and with that has changed everyone's viewing patterns and a lot of people think that coming to a cinema like this to watch a movie is that you know everyone's going to be at home watching on the phone but actually people come to the cinema because it's
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a short social experience i mean you can go to the local supermarket buy food in need at home but you still go to restaurants right but it poses challenges for your jury when selecting films presumably because there are just so many of among we have thirteen and a half thousand submissions this year from one hundred nine hundred countries documentaries shorts features web series music videos and virtual reality now that's the big challenge raindance because rain dependent we don't have any government logos here's not without trying that my lad we've we're far too contemporary to get public funding we've been i've been turned down thirty six times over the years what it means is we don't fall to the censorship and the your brand values of government organizations we show but why. we want these films as you know as we pointed out earlier social impact the in the not heavy and dark there's comedies there's there's horror there's all kinds of films but we tend to
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show the films that highlight. issues you know i think it's interesting to hear what other voices are and other countries and other cultures and if there's someone on the street who suffers from hatred i think that comes from basic misunderstanding of our people live and work and play in other parts of the world and that's what i think one of the great reasons we do raindance is to show these films because cinema is the most powerful way to transport you to another place and show you how other people live and work and maybe take down some of this hatred that is just fueling the world free to look at the news it's terrifying was happening right now. the pulitzer prize winner was all assured he is the journalist that expose the my lai massacre you have a film the whistleblower of my own about hugh thompson we're going to field why choose the one well that was very interesting i'm old enough to remember the my lai massacre and how that came out i was very curious to be told this film is being
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screened so it's like a parallel to stories one is how he happened to be in a helicopter and see this terrible atrocity being taken by his own countryman and then how we reported and how his life was destroyed. and the second is the very very wonderful trunk string quartet created an opera which is the performances cut with the news footage so you come away with his artistic piece of music cut with his harrowing news footage and at the end it's up to you to decide whether or not you think there was a blow or it was right to blow the whistle or not and then again another thing that really annoys me is that over the years of raindance a lot of people are going to come as an important film on tired tonight and we fight with apathy the same when your show people know this is a great show while they watch it on. kind of make a cup of tea or whatever you know it's apathy i think it's artists you have
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a responsibility to tell stories that are meaningful that do not exploit sex and violence simply for that sake which many of these so-called commercially successful films do i think you also have a responsibility as an individual a member of our democracy to listen to as many voices as you can and then to speak your mind especially the election time ken loach got your a tour award was a first go to are yes arrangements. so that they get a vindication because given your respect of his internationally this year it's terry gilliam by the way he's still being he said he could not accept the out for award he said i'm a collaborator i work in any pointed to jonathan price who was there the other night saying it was jonathan that came up with all the great ideas in brazil and he said i true that i filter out the best ideas and put them together so i'm going to call it the filter award not the. last time you spoke to us about
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meet the parents i'm going to early because of it we've heard of this program when it became closer to its big box office success of a three hundred eighty five million dollars i think around the world they changed with to include the cia. his intervention in saying robot to the erosion do certain things and i mean once the film screens here rain drugs if he gets picked up what's to say this is the most telling perceptive bit in the film isn't chopped out as being uncommercial we see all hollywood films i want to answer this obliquely all hollywood films have american propaganda so one thumb in the weeds when they pull up to the clear front at the end you get a big pass and pharmacists are always wow look at that it's beautiful and thomas says it must be the grand canyon. and that's the propaganda postcard shot so this studios have this uneasy relationship with the powers if they do enough
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propaganda shots then they can say stuff that you or nine might think is kind of risky but all hollywood films have propaganda so when meet the parents gets edited out and they slip in a little bit cia or whatever whatever is to keep the powers happy so they can continue making films almost like they want to do without facing the kind of censorship that you would have for example today in china and that's why our china day is so important we've got thirty five filmmakers coming from china to discuss their work how you as a filmmaker in europe or should i say britain can write a script that would pass sense of getting them censored here in the festival at the grove thank you if you are in london want to go to the raindance film festival runs of you because millions will go to the seventh we're back on wednesday for a going underground special with award winning journalist filmmaker john pilger till then given the treasure media see on wednesday twenty nine years to the day of the cia backed panamanian coup the failure of which would lead us here in beijing
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to months or. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy on sunday should we let it be an arms race in this on off and spearing dramatic development that only personally i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. that a commission will have played a crucial role in this if not in the life of the innocent civilians and the home by all means that we can feel it even you know. and you know. committing crime was the same is the national it's the second
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a lot of it's six he has to deal months and again also our principles and values. of new york city center two pm your moscow now as washington said could be open to talks with taliban militants in afghanistan and r.t. truxton a commander of the group who rejects the possibility of any negotiations and the leadership of the taliban doesn't want to negotiate with the americans and has never wanted this and the leadership of the taliban never give permission to any member to negotiate on their behalf also making headlines today turan says it's launched missiles against militants in syria it believes were responsible for last month's deadly terror attack on what military parade in a rather. dull truck professes his love for north korean leader kim jong un while pyongyang remains coley over america's.


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