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from washington but there's not just a high level sign a russian meeting in shanghai tomorrow bank of england governor mark carney will be with chinese premier league pitching in beijing that's carney who last month sounded like he was coming round to norms of debate in red and tiananmen square as is there a correlation between managements and firms that think about structural issues like climate like the impact of artificial intelligence like demographics like emergence of china is there a correlation between that and a long term also there will be i.m.f. empty christine legarde convicted of negligence in a paris court and here arguably taking china's side on the trumped trade war it's going to have current tensions could produce good. man percent over the next two years than the bretton woods good call up to the i.m.f. so bad cop jim yong kim of the world bank will also be in beijing here he is arguably sounding like a member of the chinese communist party they lifted five hundred million people out
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of poverty over the last thirty years unprecedented in world history and they know that huge portion of that was just because of their growth but now not only are they focusing on the quality of growth you know switching the strategy from you know one that was so focused on investment and exports they're also really thinking about how they can more effectively invest in their people and we know that that's a critical aspect. of their own growth strategy also meeting china's premier in beijing is o.e.c.d. secretary-general angle gourrier arguably almost quoting from call marks in his analysis of western economic crisis austerity we left a lot of people outside of this progress outside of the opportunities and this is something that we now have to focus on because it is giving results which are extremely extremely well unpredictable many times negative having to do with quality a. of the governance so it is becoming not only an economic or financial problem
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it's clearly is social problem and a political problem in the quality of governance and governments of course while major nation governments grapple with self-inflicted political instability they have infamously been involved in political instability in the developing world except this week u.k. state mandated media has been interviewing the u.k. funded white helmets claiming that russia not the u.k. has been responsible for killing in syria foreign office minister alistair but even posed with the leader of the white helmets in westminster joins me now via skype from paris france is a mother superior from a monastery in homes agnes mariam to the mother agnes thanks so much for being on the show what do you make of the british government proudly showing their support for the white helmets when we expect. to govern learn to work day i think he wanted he meant that in that heard your.
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leg to be that he cannot. be with because the white helmets when you say ambiguous the white helmet say they have helped that they've helped save one hundred fifteen thousand syrians maybe some in your community in homs province you know what you have seen now you know you were being affected and thirty. years from where. the snake and i said. it means it the way ten men did not. hit you. you having a difficult time but. time to see just people who weren't really sure what. they were left we tried to get right outside of the leader the white helmets on the show because he's in london he's been on before but we couldn't seem to get him this time. he did say though this week here in london that it is russia that is
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responsible for the killing of civilians so for instance in the seed you just spoke of russia is doing the killing when rarely come that's because any time that the next you can feel the touch of the ground is that of course there is. maybe thirty of these this is the lot of both in any country and if you have these . majesty of the people they forced an intervention and i think he will eventually that eventually to stop the war and specially the two. and two thirds of the. britain as opposed to the overthrow of president. and you would agree that russia has prevented british support and british help. thrown out and went into
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damascus. that believe that if the. if. you meant that the input is. not to support c. . ninety four and for that i think that is politically the plane then should be in tennis sometimes but for the life of civilians and what happened. he's thirty is it accordingly it was not more kind of the war it was and then showing that as a core of christian communities feel threatened by the assad government i am not see it yet but they even see the. nineteen ninety four. and. of course the. conquer the opposition and the very tense is. i but i didn't see. it
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kind of imagine what he. most people in the government of. the united nations because this is up at length is the. britain had says it had to bomb syria because the government was using chemical weapons if you want to punish the government if you will do not. see the notice unless we destroy evil incarnate the old you know any one country to be spit on and then because of the use of so it. does not go and against the national and you let me finish why do you think russia and yourself have been criticized in british corporate media elite media as being part of a misinformation campaign i can say that only look for no media have been very fair
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to. ought to be from time to time some d.c. then voice so it would be so i accept and. agree. there were a b. b. c. and the other. being it was using me and also letting me to use is fair from my point no. news information is not part i am giving in. and before god before then i am saying what they see and what i have been saying has been a third of his being if you notice by everybody i think there is a kind of the fifth or sixth day of the fifth or sixth of so the third shift for our mind. continues to support the rebels the you call radicals do you
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see now the violence is lessening in syria and the war is essentially over. we are very happy he is that. big. part of this city and thirty two he has seen and read that for our eyes and the ground you better look for that because everybody is much much more. and he sees to all. very. very important and he was fully into the venture on. to the syrian government like russia and i believe it's we have to acknowledge it and everybody occlusive even the opposition and did you explain this on your tour in the united states recently and what were the political class is saying when they hood your perspective on syria we have to face everywhere the same kind of
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so-called the nickel position but not many have been to see the. lead their lives and even a very distinct department in the media here in britain we didn't hear so many christian voices from syria we heard from rebels on syria why why do you think we didn't hear so much from christians when you know the kurds. are the republic. and they want to hear what they want with you so because then we think then that they will. be shown and. feel that you are. the nightmare. that any. western country they have supported that. and the other sponsor of what happened in.
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that kind of color. state they speak about libya. but what we would like to see sygate people. were pretty unique. in that kind of good tool and just finally as a palestinian i have to ask you what your thoughts about events in palestine as the great return much britain still selling weapons to the israeli government. how do you characterize events at the moment in palestine red alert seems the creation of . yesterday and he. what he said to me. human rights. they say. look.
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these were things not it's for. we invite the israeli ambassador to london on who can get back doesn't drive this progress whether it does not go after the break the global forces covering up the true scale of the u.k. back to the war in yemen and how scottish rolls royce what has defied the cia backed coup by chilean general pinochet told us it will come about to have going underground. what politicians do you can. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected . so when you want to be president i'm sure. you somehow want.
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to go right to the press this is like the three of them. people. interested always in the waters in the how. they should. there's no break here and no one to know why says terrorists. bad memories. twenty four years ago this country saw a real end of the world. after the genocide there a moment women in rwanda. fell to women to fix what the men had broken.
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the united states under many presidents as a long warning of breaking its treaty and other promises that the united states says it's going to leave in the treaty again. welcome back to yemen now last week u.k. foreign secretary jeremy hunt seemed to endorse u.s. calls for a cessation of hostilities in the war in yemen arguably spurred on by the killing of saudi journalists but much less attention has previously been paid to u.k. u.s. involvement in the war that the british government now appears to want to end a yugoslav style humanitarian corridor with a new study by the armed conflict location an event data project may give more food for thought at the foreign office revealing that the death toll in this u.k. war may be over five times widely accepted figures i'm not joined by the study's
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author thanks so much for coming on the figure normally given for this u.k. back to war in yemen is ten thousand dead what have you found. to your work to conclude the fatality totally. up to fifty six thousand people killed as a direct result of armed conflict this does kind of live outside all the people that have died as a result of malnutrition disease and other lives it out so this is not fifty six thousand and you're not counting all the people who save the children in iraq for one hundred fifty. children die today because of the war forty million at risk losing fifty six thousand because of armed conflict really this can't be to do with aerial bombardment because the british government says that the area for training the pilots for warplanes the u.k. is obviously training solely by the north wales there's no british. killing in those figures there's no british soldier of course on the ground or british planes
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brittany's support in the saudi led coalition in refueling and training as you mentioned. the number of course includes both combatants and noncombatants. but they're easily least we recorded for instance at least six thousands of people civilians that have been killed seventy five percent with our tribute them to the to the saudi led coalition the ten thousand figures that the u.n. have been using since twenty sixteen seventeen hasn't been updated since so that's the major problem and the problem is that the media have continued to use that figure as he was actually the only immutable figure of casualties in yemen. that figure actually the u.n. never known at that since the very beginning was already in on their estimate they said they're actually there ten thousand to ten thousand people there were reported to be killed where recorded using figures provided by medical centers of course
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many people do not make it to a medical center do not make it to the to the clinic. run by either the red cross or the government and so those people will actually end up being in the top of cabinet it's very likely that our our figure has well to fifty six you mention might be an underestimate and that the scale of the people killed in yemen what we do he's relying on secondary sources so media international news agencies national media and other local outlets are available online how do you know whether there's a g. american propaganda. news agencies or and the british yet we triangulate has much as possible the information of these provided in all these media of course there are areas in yemen where there is kind of one sided. reporting.
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we don't get funding you don't get funded by saudi arabia or the you know we get funded from a number of different partners including. the government of the netherlands government of the state department as well as some european union countries the u.s. state department and it's notable that the head of the pentagon appears to be very concerned by the mounting casualties and death toll in yemen almost pushing pushing britain into it arguably you don't delineate by a manufacturer of war plane or bomb because those are loaning figures you're giving for airstrikes. i mean you don't know whether there are any british manufactured bourne's. killed those civilians or were the british made and manufactured warplanes have been used in killing the civilians we don't carry out that kind of that level of investigations de vries however extensive reporting that u.s.
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made bombs u.k. made bombs even italian made bombs have been used in yemen in episodes where there was an indiscriminate killing of civilians including of course as we know. children or are we men the high court in london said that or robust arms export regime here is is brilliant. britain must continue and must be able to continue exporting killing machines to the these which are being used it's very difficult this is something of course we can't corroborate because we don't have the resources and. and the ability to verify what kind of weaponry has been used for all these bombings because now we have really been documented to read apparently leaked to a british newspaper saying that the saudis have done sort of publish a deal for publishers g. for aid money and saudi arabia the u.a.e. third of the total humanitarian aid budget for your minister britain as blows aid
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and in return i don't know maybe it will be the casualty figures but certainly their actions in yemen it's up to price strategy and both books saudi arabia and the u.a.e. as well they've been very willing actually to provide humanitarian assistance at the same time they are conducting they are leading these air campaign that has killed also thousands of civilians in yemen. the u.a.e. in one of the most recent investigation by buzz feed as well was said to be behind some assassinations extrajudicial killings of some islamist leaders. and we're all busy. on the show because the brightness religious belief said that cessation of violence. would be pointless without going to political solution maybe the government moves like this in the general matters of the pentagon is that no we've
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got to really think about a ceasefire what do you think of the fact that we've been covering this war previous on this or it was the devil showed you that he was to one person's death rather than the six thousand you came up with seems to have moved the narrative on for he looks irrational i mean the death of one single person compared to the scale and the numbers of you know many people have died over the course of the past three years doesn't doesn't make sense. of course that has increased the pressure on all western governments. to accept pressure. on the saudi government particularly and on the u.a.e. certain extent to stop the air campaign stopping the air campaign probably will not end the war because the war started as a local war in yemen. but it will definitely help resuming the peace talks. bring the two parties or even more than two parties because there's plenty
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of actors out there right now fighting to to talk negotiate a cease fire which is the most important thing and provide humanitarian aid and relief to the people across all of yemen are suffering because of these four hundred thank you some viewers may be asking why workers on killing machines used in yemen are not laying down tools that's what happened in scotland when workers discovered they were maintaining engines for warplanes used to aid a cia backed coup in the latin american nation of chile while u.k. labor leader jeremy corbyn was widely derided in elite media for recently being in geneva to mark twenty years into an attempt to make a good story. pinochet a war crimes charges a new documentary suggested and joining chile legacy in the u.k. joining me now via skype from edinburgh is the woodring director of ny passer on philippe cousteau's sierra for the pay thanks so much for coming on jeremy corbett as i said with a laugh death for concerning himself with pinochet rather than things in this
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country what made you think the stories of these scottish workers. could make a good film about relations between britain and chile i mean originally i didn't really think we'd get this far this was a story our when i was a kid my father was a next out from chile and the story of the scottish boycott of the chilean engines was one of the methods are inside a diety so early on it was really more about finding out. you know if there was any truth to the story and if they had any impact what was it so it's been a long process been six years to get to the point where we're actually discovered you know while we're making a film and the old guys themself in this one discovered how much of an impact it had. and hawker hunter war planes were used by the dictatorship and in the coup maybe so the hawk a hunter was the most exported to british. crafts around the time and so by the time dear area force no longer using it they were ex and so into about twenty four
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different our forces around the world and some of them quite dodgy. so on the day of the coup in chile on eleven september one thousand seven hundred three to our counters flew over century ago a sort of this going to irreversible damage to. memory to attack the palace where you know so much of our unit was if you surrender were solicited a message to anyone not to oppose that and the workers may not have known that it would become a crucible for a new liberal chicago's the economics what did they want will concern the most about this sudden order to maintain a rolls royce engine i mean they're aware you know there were four wars royce and most of them there were there was or since they were in there you know fourteen sixteen year olds and started the printing so that's been their entire life you know when to so the saudi image of the coup in chile in effect the responsibility and you know six months later the first engine arrives in the factory and fulton who was a world war two veteran had fled from italy to germany found that you didn't want
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to you know put his name to it so you refused to work on them they were saying quite simple to the action this is one of the longest action of solidarity's in the world. guys managed to keep these engines in scouting for four years in the interests purges scottish elements until it was banished in one thousand seventy eight and the guys were told within six weeks they're going to wear a black and chilean already in service this doesn't really go with them but that was the last that they've heard. so. you know it's been a long time to get to get some proper answers and it wasn't just bob fulton and the three others that are in the film the soon transport unions show solidarity with their actions here and that's goal and that's right above fulton took the initiative and there are to his colleagues and it's right to to kind of rallied around him all the shop stewards and sort of thirty shop stewards who were their representative for each union in the factory supported bob and you know it took it
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to their. shop floor and i was four thousand employees back the action. knew back then of course you know this was one nine hundred seventy four so they had trillions where a different kind of power back then and supported his cronies completely and this is without them knowing the scale of torture and the disappeared i mean one has to say that margaret thatcher of course in this country hailed pinochet as a hero you obviously chilean just to give us some perspective on the kind of torture that the british and american governments were defacto backing in chile i mean it by seventy four six months after the crew the thing that motivated bob was definitely no e.u. was in the house politicized some of his colleagues you've heard a lot about torture and human rights abuse which church so you get a came from a slightly different perspective you know by by early seventy four some of the crimes committed by pinochet regime were already torture why well known it's only
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until the labor government i rise to power in seventy four that i started taking this seriously overall index to me that is about a million trillion. in exile as a result of the you know from the coup you see a muddle times columnist said about the german call been being in geneva with michel bashfully was tortured by the regime former leader of chile that it's kind of obscure why should it be relevant to a political leader here in britain today and what happened in chile in the one hundred seventy s. well i think it's been there you know it's been the party line sure ever since the crew itself sort of downplayed the actual. atrocities that were committed you know and then in play i suppose the what distro it is the coming economic miracle of chile and there pinochet which is a complete fantasy has been debunked over and over and all you believe in before then though was in the solidarity between you suggest in the film by israel perhaps
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india in kenya who came to the aid of pinochet given what these goldish workers were doing and the many more there were no in the archives are soundlessly in the u.k. and in chile there's many countries who are one well aware of the embargo you can borrow against chile and are trying to see if they can sort of sideline it without them themselves being affected by the embargo but i was definitely suggestion that they thought inviting the leaders of the boycotts to chile would somehow sway. their opinion if there by cuts british you know just do it i mean it was absolutely a discredit to us from those royce inviting them and their spouses to chile on a nordic strip or expenses paid trip. i suppose if she does how things get resolved or bunch of money at somebody and. the debacle discouraged workers i. thank you and you can see my place around and u.k.
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cinemas now that's it for the show wednesday would winning musician stage with bob marley's on ziggy marley tell us about modern slavery the wind drug scandal and racism in britain plus an exclusive performance from his new album man like i still that he would authorize such a media are we back on wednesday one hundred one years to the day of a bolshevik revolution that would change the world forever. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution to include the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you know here i mean your list put me in the. schooling you go to the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty fourteen. those who took part in this today over five billion dollars to assist
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