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the period from holmes tells us who the real enemy is in syria and the british backed war in yemen we investigate the true death toll of the world's worst humanitarian crisis plus after events to mark u.k. back to fascism in chile attended by jeremy corbyn can british workers learn from a new documentary on chile about how to oppose arms exports to brutal conflicts coming up in the show but first while british and nato nation proletariat celebrate the normal mr day on guy fawkes night a bonfire of nato nation dominance is arguably being prepared for tomorrow's meetings in shanghai xi jinping and russian prime minister dmitry medvedev meet there following september's meetings between putin and she while the u.k. was still debating sanctions on mosco the key messages from a lot of our putin paying a lot of the world that there was great trust between beijing and moscow when it comes to politics defense and security business ties will keep growing stronger and
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stronger and most important beijing and moscow are looking to get off the dollar hole at least when it comes to bilateral trade amid mounting pressure from washington but this is not just a high level sign a russian meeting in shanghai tomorrow bank of england governor mark carney will be with chinese premier they could chang in beijing that's conny last month sounded like he was coming round to norms of debate in red and tiananmen square as is there a correlation between managements and firms that think about structural issues like climate like the impact of artificial intelligence like demographics like emergence of china or is there a correlation between that and. also there will be i.m.f. m.d. christine legarde convicted of negligence in a paris court and here arguably taking china's side on the trumped trade war. comments made. percent over the next
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two years than the bretton woods good call up to the i.m.f. so bad cop jim yong kim of the world bank will also be in beijing here he is arguably sounding like a member of the chinese communist party they lifted five hundred million people out of poverty over the last thirty years unprecedented in world history and they know that huge portion of that was just because of their growth but now not only are they focusing on the quality of growth you know in switching the strategy from you know one that was so focused on investment and exports they're also really thinking about how they can more effectively invest in their people and we know that that's a critical aspect. of their own growth strategy also meeting china's premier in beijing is o.e.c.d. secretary-general angle gourrier arguably almost quoting from karl marx in his analysis of western economic crisis austerity we left a lot of people outside of this progress outside of the opportunities and this is
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something that we now have to focus on because it is giving results which are extremely extremely well unpredictable many times negative having to do with the quality of the governance so it is becoming not only an economic or financial problem it's clearly is social problem and a political problem in the quality of governance and governments of course while major nation governments grapple with self-inflicted political instability they haven't for mostly been involved in political instability in the developing world except this week u.k. state mandated media has been interviewing the u.k. funded white helmets claiming that russia not the u.k. has been responsible for killing in syria foreign office minister alistair burt even posed with the leader of the white helmets in westminster joins me now via skype from paris france is a mother superior from a monastery in homes agnes mariam to the mother agnes thanks so much for being on the show what do you make of the british government proud. oddly showing their
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support for the white helmet when you know we expect. you to go to learn to. think he and he meant that in that. other companies and that should be the next. leg. that he cannot spot or i'm not on the with. because the white helmets when you say ambiguous the white house would say they have helped that they've helped save one hundred fifteen thousand syrians maybe some in your community in homs province know what you have seen now you know who are being left out and. from where. the snake. eyes. it means it's the way ten men did not for duty. being the difficult time but if you could. see just people who weren't really sure what. they were left behind we tried to get
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right out of a leader the white helmets on the show because he's in london he's been on before but we couldn't seem to get him this time he did say though this week here in london that it is russia that is responsible for the killing of civilians so for instance in the siege you just spoke of russia's doing the killing when larry cannot see because any time that the next that he can feel the touch on the ground is that of course that is. maybe thirty coffee this is the lot of both in any country and if you have these. people they force an intervention and then he will eventually eventually stop the war and there should be two. and two. but britain is supported the overthrow of president. and
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you would agree that russia has prevented british support and british help. throw them into damascus. that. if. you meant that the input. to support c. . ninety four and for them to think that is politically and financially in tennis sometimes for the life of civilian weapon. he's thirty is it accordingly it was not. the kind of war it was and then showing that as a core of a lot of hard christian communities feel threatened by the assad government i am not see it yet but they even see the. nineteen ninety four. and.
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of course the better. and that can't be opened. and the version says look i but i didn't see. it kind of imagine what he. most people in the government or the. united nations because this is up at length. in britain had says it had to bomb syria because the government was using chemical weapons if you want to punish the government if you do not. see the notice or less would destroy your own card the old you only know one country to be spit on and because of the use of most of. these tools does not go and against the national and you money. why do you think
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russia and yourself have been criticizing the british corporate media elite media as being part of a misinformation campaign i can say that only look for new media have been very fair to. ought to be from time to time some d.c. then voice so would be so i accept and. agree. there were a b. b. c. and the other. being two of you seeing me and also letting you go you see is fair from my point no. news information is not part i am giving in. and before god before then i am saying what they see and what i have been saying has been a third of his being if you notice everybody i think there is
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a kind of dick there's two they defeat their ship of sorts the third shift on mine . continues to support the rebels do you see now the violence is lessening in syria and the war is essentially over. we are very happy he is that. big. part of this city and thirty two he has seen and read that for our eyes only and the grounds are better lost because everybody is much much more. and he sees to all. very. very important and he was fully into the venture on. to the syrian government like russia and i believe it's we have to acknowledge it and everybody a clear see even the opposition and did you explain this on your tour in the united
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states recently and what were the political class is saying when they heard your perspective on syria we had to face everywhere the same kind of so-called nickel position but not many we have been to see the. lead their lives and even a very distinct department in the media here in britain we didn't hear so many christian voices from syria we heard from rebels on syria why why do you think we didn't hear so much from christians when you know the kurds. are the republic. and they want to hear what they want with you so because then we think then that they will. feel that you are. the nightmare. that any. western country
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they have supported that. and the other sponsor of happening they would like that kind of color. so say that they speak about. well we would like to see the sygate people. who were pretty neat. in that kind of good tool and just finally as a palestinian i have to ask you what your thoughts about events in palestine as the great return much britain still selling weapons to the israeli government. how do you characterize the events at the moment in palestine. seems the creation of. yesterday and he. what is happening.
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human rights. you know they say if you. look at this. that he had the marcus news night these were things next for the first person we invite the israeli ambassador to london on he didn't get back was a time for this broadcast rather i guess that after the break the global force is covering up the truth scale of the u.k. back to the war in yemen and how scottish rolls royce work has defied the cia backed coup by chile in general and the shame all the civil coming of about doing going underground.
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welcome back to yemen now last week u.k. foreign secretary jeremy hunt seemed to endorse u.s. calls for a cessation of hostilities in the war in yemen arguably spurred on by the killing of saudi journalists but much less attention has previously been paid to u.k. u.s. involvement in the war that the british government now appears to want to end a yugoslav style humanitarian corridor with
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a new study by the armed conflict location an event data project may give more food for thought at the foreign office revealing that the death toll in this u.k. war may be over five times widely accepted figures i'm not joined by andrea koppel only the study's author and thanks so much for coming on the figure normally given to this u.k. backed war in yemen is ten thousand dead what have you found. to your work to conclude that the fatality total yemenis up to fifty six thousand people killed as a direct result of armed conflict this does kind of outside older people that have died as a result of malnutrition disease and other it leaves it out yeah so this is not fifty six thousand and you're not counting all the people who die i mean save the children iraq figure of one hundred fifty. children will die today because of the you're back by war forty million at risk you're saying fifty six thousand because of armed conflict presuming this can't be to do with aerial bombardment because the
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british government says that the area for training the pilots the war planes the u.k. is obviously training saudi pilots in north wales there's no british. killing in those figures there's no british soldier of course on the ground or british planes brittany's supporting the saudi let's call the shining refueling and try. as you mentioned. the number of course includes both combatants and noncombatants. but there are easily least we recorded for instance at least six thousands of people civilians that have been killed seventy five percent with our tribute them to the to the saudi led coalition the ten thousand figures that the u.n. have been using since twenty sixteen seventeen hasn't been updated since so that's the major problem and the problem is that the media have continued to use that figure as he was actually the only immutable figure of casualties in yemen.
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the figure actually in the u.n. at the noted that since the very beginning was already in on their estimate they said they're actually there ten thousand to ten thousand people there were reported to be killed where recorded using figures provided by medical centers of course many people do not make it to a medical center do not make it to the to the clinic run by either the red cross or the government and so those people will actually end up in the in the in the total count it's very likely that our our figure as well the fifty six thousand you mentioned might be an underestimate and of the scale of the people killed in yemen what we do is relying on secondary sources so media international news agencies national media and other local outlets are available online how do you know whether the. american. news agencies or british we
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triangulate has much as possible the information of these provided in all these media of course there are areas in yemen where the reason kind of one sided. reporting. we don't go from being you know good from the you know we get funded from a number of. different partners including. the government of the netherlands the government of the state department as well as some european union countries the us state department and it's notable that the head of the pentagon appears to be very concerned by the mounting casualties and death toll in yemen almost pushing pushing britain into it arguably you don't delineate by manufacture of war plane or bomb because those are launching figures you're giving for airstrikes. i mean you don't know whether there are any british manufactured bombs that have killed those civilians or whether any british made and manufactured warplanes have been used in
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killing the civilians we don't carry out that kind of that level of investigations de vries however extensive reporting that us made bombs u.k. made bombs even italian made bombs have been used in yemen in a piece where there was an indiscriminate killing of civilians including of course as we know. children or are we men the high court in london said that our robust arms export regime here is is brilliant and of course britain must continue and must be able to continue exporting killing machines to the saudis which are being used it's very difficult this is something of course we can't corroborate because we don't have resources and. and the ability to verify what kind of weaponry has been used for all these bombings because now we have
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a live view and documented to be the bearer of the leaked to a british newspaper saying that the saudis have done sort of publish a deal for publicize the for aid money and saudi arabia the u.a.e. supply third of the total humanitarian aid budget for your initiative britain as blaze aid and in return i don't know maybe maybe the casual. but certainly their actions in yemen it's up to process strategy and both books saudi arabia and the u.a.e. as well they've been very willing actually to provide humanitarian assistance at the same time they are conducting they are leading these campaign that has killed also thousands of civilians in yemen. the u.a.e. in one of the most recent investigation by buzz feed as well was said to be behind assassinations extrajudicial killings of some islamist leaders and we will be. on the show because the brightness religiously said that cessation of violence.
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would be pointless without going to political solution maybe the government moves like this in the general matters of the pentagon is that you know we've got to really think about a ceasefire what do you think of the fact that we've been covering this war preview . it was the devil who showed you that he was through one person's death rather than the six those new came up with seems to have moved the narrative on further he looks irrational i mean the death of one single person compared to the scale and the numbers of you know many people have died over the course of the past three years doesn't doesn't make sense. of course that has increased the pressure on all western governments. to accept pressure. on the saudi government particularly and on the u.a.e. certain extent to stop the air campaign stopping the air campaign probably will not
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end the war because the war started as a local war in yemen. but eat it will definitely help resuming the peace talks. bring the two parties or even more than two parties because there's plenty of actors there right now fighting. two to talk negotiate a cease fire which is the most important thing and provide humanitarian aid and relief to the people across all of yemen that are suffering because of these four hundred company thank you some viewers may be asking why workers on killing machines used in yemen and not laying down tools that's what happened in scotland when workers discovered they were maintaining engines for warplanes used to aid a cia backed coup in the latin american nation of chile while u.k. labor leader jeremy corbyn was widely derided in elite media for recently being in geneva to mark twenty years since an attempt to make a goose to pinochet for war crimes charges a new documentary suggested and joining chile legacy in the u.k.
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joining me now via skype from edinburgh is the woodring director of ny passer on philippe just sierra for the pay thanks so much for coming on to jericho but as i said was laughed at for concerning himself with pinochet rather than things in this country what made you think the stories of these scottish workers. could make a good film about relations between britain and chile i mean originally i didn't really think we'd get this far this was a story are what i was a kid my father was next out from chile and the story of the scottish boycott of chilean engines was one of the mystery and story verity so early on it was really more about finding out. if there was any truth to the story and if there adenine what was it so it's been a long process been six years to get to the point where we actually discovered you know what we're making of so many old guys themselves in this one discovered how much of an impact to how good and hawker hunter warplanes were used by the
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dictatorship and in the coup maybe. so the hawk a hunter was a most exported british. aircraft around the time and so by the time dear area force no longer using it they were x. and so into about twenty four different our forces around the world and some of them quite dodgy. so on the day of the coup in chile on the liver september one thousand seven hundred three to our counters flew over century ago a sort of this going to irreversible damage to. the money to attack the palace where you know some of your unit was if you surrender were solicited a message to anyone not to oppose that and the workers may not have known that it would become a crucible for a new liberal chicago's the economics what did they won't will concern the most about this order to maintain a rolls royce engine i mean they're aware you know there were four wars royce and most of them there were there was or since they were in there you know fourteen sixteen year olds and started the printing so that's been their entire life you
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know when to so the saudi image of the coup in chile in effect the responsibility and you know six months later the first engine arrives in the factory and fulton who was a world war two veteran conflicts from italy to germany found that you don't want to you know put his name to it so you refuse to work on them there are some quite simple to the action this is one of the longest action of solidarity's in the world . the guys managed to keep these engines in scranton for four years in the interests purges scottish elements until it was banished in one thousand seventy eight and the guys were told within six weeks as you were back in chile and already in service this doesn't really go with them but that was the last that they've heard. so. you know it's been a long time to get to get some proper answers and it wasn't just bob fulton and the three others that are in the film the soon transport unions show solidarity with their actions here and that's goal and that's right above fulton took the
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initiative and there are today's colleagues in automatically to kind of ready to round him all the shop stewards and sort of thirty shop stewards who were there were present a different way for each union in the factory supported bob and it took it to their . shop floor and that was four thousand employees who back the action. knew back then of course you know this was one nine hundred seventy four so they had trillions where had a different kind of power back then and they supported bobbins cronies completely and this is without them knowing the scale of torture and the disappeared i mean one has to say that margaret thatcher of course in this country hailed pinochet as a hero you obviously chilean just to give us some perspective on the kind of torture that the british and american governments were defacto backing in chile i mean it by seventy four six months after the crew the thing that motivated bob was definitely no e.u. was in the house politicized some of his colleagues he'd heard
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a lot about torture and human rights abuse for a church so again it came from a slightly different perspective you know by by early seventy four some of the crimes committed by pinochet his regime were already torn or why well known it's only until the labor government i rise to power in seventy four that i started taking this seriously overall index to me that is about a million trillion. in exile as a result of the you know from the coup you see a muddled times columnist said about the german call been being in geneva with michelle bachelet he was tortured by the regime former leader of chile that it's kind of obscure why should it be relevant to a political leader here in britain today and what happened in chile in the one hundred seventy s. but i think it's been there you know it's been the party line sure ever since the current self's sort of downplayed the actual. atrocities that were committed you
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know and then in play i suppose the what did start is the coming economic miracle of chile and there pinochet which is a complete fallacy has been debunked over and over and all you believe in before then though was in the solidarity between you suggest in the film by israel perhaps india in kenya who came to the aid of pinochet given what these goldish workers were doing and the many more there were no in the archives or soundlessly in the u.k. and in chile there's many countries who are or well aware of the embargo that you can borrow against chile and are trying to see if they can sort of sideline it without them themselves being affected by the embargo but i was definitely suggestion that they thought inviting the leaders of the boycotts to chile would somehow sway. their opinion if there by cops british and others do it i mean it was absolutely a disgrace to us from those royce inviting them and their spouses to chile on a nordic strip or expenses paid trip. i suppose it's you that's how things get
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resolved bunch of money at somebody and. discouraged workers i. thank you and you can see and i pass around and you pay cinemas now that's it for the show wednesday would winning musician stage with bob marley from ziggy marley tell us about modern slavery the wind drug scandal and racism in britain plus an exclusive performance from his new album man like i am still then he would have media will be back on wednesday one hundred one years to the day of a bolshevik revolution that would change the world forever. in twenty forty you know bloody revolution to the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it you know here i mean put me in the.
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school in the middle of the former ukrainian president recalls the events of twenty four. those who took part in this to do over five billion dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. maybe just maybe there is some hope for yemen and globalist suffered a major defeat in brazil and much much more on this edition of trust. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm showbusiness i'll see you then.
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