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that resolution for a cease fire apart from against isis the edge al-qaeda linked groups wasn't really a factor for drazen may and blairite labor for them it was about the highly likely over the conclusive we judge is highly likely but both that the syrian regime has continued to use chemical weapons since then and will continue to do so or as their opposite numbers that i believe that the action was legally questionable and on saturday the united nations secretary general and turning to terry said as much reiterating that all countries must act in line with the united nations charter luckily for tourism a compliant press over u.k. aerial bombardment i mean it's a civil war was never really legally questioned even of historic giving his briefing today will likely not mention it well stories i'm a responsible for escalating the syrian catastrophe that killed hundreds of thousands and that involved u.k. taxpayer funded militias opposing president assad even the media doesn't listen to corbin perhaps they should go back and listen to donald trump before the arguable
u.s. deep state got to him he has aligned with russia and with the rain they don't want to isis but they have other things because we're back in we're back in rebels we don't know who the rebels are we're giving them lots of money lots of everything we don't know who the rebels are and when and if and it's not going to happen because you have russian you have iran now but if they ever did overthrow you might end up with as bad as assad is he's a bad guy but you may very well end up with worse than assad well this time to raise a man like blair brown and cameron failed to militarily over there an arab government but arguably she has been successfully trying to overthrow herself one long time opponent of neo-con was the man who once had the biggest individual mandate in europe ken livingstone for his perspective on the current political chaos in britain he joins me now ken thanks very much covering back on so what have you made of this to raise i'm a. brix it agreement document well i can understand why pretty much everyone
doesn't have much time for if you if you were one of those that wanted to vote to leave this deal broadly leaves us in the e.u. found by will there was having to pay away money but we've given up our same rules now so for breakfast here is a disaster quite a lot of businesses say you did with this we did stanch could be damaging if we leave but the simple fact is i it's not her fault and you had david cameron decide to call a referendum on this without bothering to get civil servants do some research on what will be the impact and so that the last two or two years of we're starting from scratch trying to work your way around the simple fact is no i can't think of any other instance where a country has walked away from its predominant trading block so that i mean all these predictions about if you got the disaster or would it be really good no one knows no one had been down this road nobody knows what divides is going to be i mean literally no whip knows no leader knows i.e.
i've never known appeared in my life where things have been so uncertain in our politics i mean if i want to get on to the split in labor the between corbin's people in the old liberals argue with you think the tory party can still remain together given the current events over you i think there's a real prospect of a split i mean i think at the end of the day there were either if they do split they might be devastated as a general election and i. when we had the labor party split back in one thousand nine hundred eighty two and a chunk went off to form the s.t.p. a vote was cut down to about twenty eight percent and then you go about twenty six and fatter at a landslide so that that might go although a lot of the much will come stand each other they realise they they go to carry on together all the will be wiped out of the next election i gave her going to go in a second but what about the dangers of. agreement like this being put in place who
knows drazen may in for another year and issues of state aid by the european union meaning that a korban government anyway wouldn't be able to nationalize water railways electricity and well other utilities people too. many of these institutions in other countries in europe on nationalized all one's always are owned by nasa just one i think will be ways round this but you can any what jeremy is away said and he voted to stay in but he's unhappy with the e.u. each bureaucracy its rules and so i think if we had a labor government i mean they're not going to vote she just walk away but they've got a vote you know we want to reform it open it make it accountable democratic but you can't have a solo to europe bureaucrats telling jeremy corbyn he can't renationalise the runways but that's exactly what presumably they will be telling him to back he will renationalise the rat race it might be an interesting complex surgery that breaks it after that there will definitely be voting for breaks or may we what about this
blitz then in labor the sort of rum parliamentary polity that does. favor mere liberalism versus what jeremy corbyn want i mean. i think now. we've had forty years of neo liberalism since sasha go in and we see it happen where the people who voted for brett sit they voted for trump in america because and manufacturing has been wiped out when forty years ago we had eight million jobs in manufacturing now we've got just two million and although we've got fairly high levels of employment most of those jobs are in secure why that's why people are angry and therefore labor government is committed to rebuilding our manufacturing good high tech high skilled jobs why is absolutely crucial one of the . aspects of the brics vote though is that no country has been allowed to leave a little more you say that no country has left thinking over
a book greece they voted in twenty fifteen to leave ignored island twice that. holland was ignored france was ignored isn't the point that there liberalism is in brussels and that's where the power is what that was part of such as influence i mean she moved much more towards the neo deputy comics. and the legacy has been it's a sauce to write about i think also i mean the one thing we got right we didn't join the euro zone and you actually go countries like italy greece already struck in course a local team to a euro set effectively by germany which has an incredibly dynamic and strong economy. that was a big mistake. giving the media is having as well about all these different issues i mean it to be expected that we'd be hearing a sort of soap opera about individuals you know dominic grab this and jacob riis
more but i i think there's a real problem with the british media which is either their own by extreme right wing like canal has and you get. absolutely does on the skull bridge where if you look at say the b.b.c. . it's all right centrist it wasn't keen on thatcher certainly not keen on corbin it might be old people like david allen and roy jenkins the sort of social democrats the liberals in the middle and i've suffered a lot of bias from the b.b.c. and so on as well over the years yeah jeremy called in the other day was called out right. and he see mate who's accused of being on this list channel which you would see has. i mean there was in the receipt in the even david dimbleby didn't say anything even to say this was regis elias and smith has gone on for the last two and a half he is quite interesting that you know i mean remember ajah queues of saying
it was a zionist complete loan but it went around the world globally the simple fact is until jeremy coleman came lida he's forty five years important nearly i live nine hundred forty five you have nearly forty is involved and no one ever suggested that jeremy was anti semitic any more than anyone did about me he calls we've campaigned or had on a spit tolerance we've oppose racism sexism and he semitism i mean when i was accused me and i said to journey in my is a smear anti semitic incidents in london were cut by half on the boris johnson they doubled want it was about why that was but these lies go on and on i mean it's like i say it's not just us i mean back in one nine hundred thirty three when president roosevelt introduced benefit. the unemployed the right wing press are saying it's the first step to communism and the nine hundred forty five election year churchill said if labor wins the intrusive stop on the simple fact is if you have
a leader who's generally progressive is going to stop corporations doing away tax dodging crackdown on those billionaires that don't pay their fair share they will do anything to stop you getting in well some people would say that what you said about the media and its coverage of these things you're being a bit lenient on them the u.n. is dreadful journey extreme poverty as we investigating the u.k. and this in the wake of the was benches press corps one hundred twenty thousand makes us deaths because of austerity you said that they kind of like roy jenkins they carry the end of david owen social democracy they didn't really go big on that story even in the immediate of two others present girlfriends well i think it's quite interesting in the year after mrs thatcher was forced out of office panorama the b.b.c. documentary program produced a program out economic legacy it's never been shown because the a shows that it didn't really work things were worse off under thatcher the napkin before the same
is true with this government starting with cameron eight years ago we have seen the most devastating cuts in public services young people facing despair suicide rates going up this government has done more this government actually makes me such a look frankly any johns you'll be able to be back in the labor body and serve in a golden globe. basically when i lost to boris back in two thousand and twelve i felt you know i'm retired now and we have a very that i had miliband young enough to be my son i mean i always said to admit it and anything you want me to do i i'll do the opposite the same for jeremy and you think the political battle within the labor party really isn't right is not only in the tory body in the labor party is a bit of a problem. about your successor in london he's thinking of trying to be leader of the well he's got to finish is. back into parliament i mean
truly there isn't. the two leadership elections we had. sixty percent about i know but he came close after all and still support. me for the first time in the sixty years we've got somebody that people see as an ordinary decent guy who came into politics to help people not just become a celebrity or get rich. just across the water from the u.k. involved war in. what lies behind britain voting to drop sanctions against the red nation. the larger than life of his discourse was so full of not get some extraordinary insights but when i go back to london after that ten days with the goal my life seems so small. talk's painting. going underground.
so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy. let it be an arms race. very dramatic development only. i don't see how it will be very. time to sit down and talk. a lot of. opportunities i needed to. make some money twenty five thousand dollars as a teacher fifty thousand dollars a year trucks. people rushed to a small town in north dakota was among the employment rate of zero percent is like gold rush is very very similar to the gold rush but this beautiful story ended with
pollution and devastation a lot of people have left here i don't know too many people here slow down so much they lost their jobs got laid off the american dream is changing that's not what it used to be. it's a tough reality to. welcome back the u.k. has for years in forced sanctions against what is being one of the fastest growing economies in the world but within the past few days a british drafted resolution of the u.n. security council is meant the ending of sanctions against the red sea coastal nation of eritrea in africa for more we're joined via skype from washington d.c. by sophia test for merriam who is on the board of the national council of eritrean american sylvia thanks for being on what's it going to mean for eritrea that
sanctions have been lifted exoneration. there was falsely accused in two thousand and nine of supporting al shabaab. and disturbing the peace in somalia not accepting the t.f. g. and supporting the u.i.c. fighting alongside you i see an awful lot of unsubstantiated allegations are made then for the last nine years they haven't been able to come up with a single iota of evidence to prove those allegations it also gives the security council that if you can fault sanctions a way out a face saving from the quagmire that they created for themselves why do you think britain and other countries for so long accused eritrea of being. of with islam is is it because of its geographical position crucial just over the over the sea from yemen as it were the horn of africa was already believe gold as an area that was
conflict the burden and a hotbed for terrorism and when you have it here you know who's a client state was a client state of the previous administrations. it was very easy to play into that global war on terror and it was pretty much a way of supporting if you're. standing in the region at the same time instituting the global war on terror the policy on that in that area where if you can serve as the main country and partner in the global war and every chair was the scapegoat you claim ethiopia is a proxy of washington in that way what about human rights organizations that have for so long and continue to say that eritrea must be boycotted must have sanctions arguably because of human rights violations in the country all of them played into that once every chair was labeled as a spoiler it gave every anti every tree. entity including here.
the treasonous individuals that ran around bad mouth and corrupt city of the media . and the anti propaganda really helped to to to sway public opinion of course some countries are now wondering why this sudden shift in washington london of the countries is this because of the war in yemen does it mean that every trans going to help bomb yemen does i mean eritrea is going to take i.m.f. money privatized all its industries and basically give up the revolution absolutely not search and made no conception in order to get these sanctions lifted she was in compliance with the sanctions regime even though they didn't agree with it and even though. they were hiding it for the nine years but they didn't give up anything to become to the for the sanctions to be removed and the peace and stability in the horn of africa and the peace between eritrea and ethiopia was
a direct result of the two countries that had nothing to do with the un and the those were not the reasons why eritrea was sanctioned in the first place so i'm not sure why they're trying to tie the peace with the ethiopia and the resolving of. issue to the sanctions but their chair was wrongly sanctioned because it fit the narrative that was being pushed for what the intended to do in somalia had everything to do with the propping up the regime in somalia that they wanted had everything to do with supporting ethiopia in its mission in somalia and it had absolutely nothing to do with wrongdoings obviously now that we're not under sanctions we will have more leeway to take care of some of our domestic issues economically for sure yeah there's no a government in the conscription will end however and i've got to ask you mention propaganda britain of sanctions against russia son's actions against china and other countries people may know how a country like cuba withstood u.s.
sanctions how did eritrea withstand sanctions from countries like britain and the united states for so long a share will power. it was easy nine years were very difficult for the people of eritrea but they decided to concentrate inward and develop their country in the using their own resources and. buy time for when the sanctions will be but we didn't sit idle just decided there was time to do even harder work so we managed to to work hard and achieve the millenium development goals when no other country in sub-saharan africa was able to do that we were able to build infrastructure develop our roads develop our colleges build eight nine colleges graduate. thousands thousands of energy and so there is just so we didn't stop working. thank you well in the usa hollywood is arguably always been propaganda for the wealthy and powerful even while destroying the lives of those employed by the good of show
business is the subject of a recently published book by the son of two hollywood i go joan collins and the newly that chronicles the alienation felt by those growing up in the spotlight the book is called unaccompanied minor and its author of the artist alexander nearly joins me now alexander welcome to going underground so arguably your paintings show a certain alienation about the show business world elite media spotlight on what made you write a memoir as well when i felt that i was the guardian of this extraordinary treasure trove of memories about growing up as the son of these two incredible celebrities and born in i was born in the late sixty's in lived in beverly hills during the late sixty's which is an extraordinary time in american film and i had just these all these extraordinary experiences you know riding on a motorbike with steve mcqueen and playing pool with james cannon and i just felt
that i had to share what i saw at bear witness to it somehow in a book you can describe where your father told you about your own conception but then after i mean the fantasy befitting an eastern kid who had risen out of abject poverty to take broadway and to the newly just tell me a bit about him first thing to say about dad is that he was born into poverty in the east and he was born to what we call a tweeny a between the stairs made so wrong before below normal made he never knew his father. so he was born illegitimate child of domestic help basically and he was born into debt dickensian circumstances i mean rather like oliver twist he was born on a on a wooden pallet in a workhouse and nine hundred thirty. fast forward thirty two years he has conquered not only the u.k. charts see him but he's conquered the broadway u.s. broadway scene twice with two barnstorming shows he's married to joan collins news
living in beverly hills so in a space of thirty years to go from that beginning to to that point further on is the most extraordinary i was like a judy garland movie with the spinning headline in the influence so many people have recently. you saw your parents as victims of an ogre called show business way because. their world was extremely insecure they had no insurance in the sense that they had no permanent employer you do a movie here stage appearance there and then it's gone and you have to rely on them and all their money and they lived large i mean my neither of them ever turned to me and explained anything about putting a bit of money away here but you know they lived large but the outside political world doesn't intrude that much you mean you say when you move from l.a. to london you can see the rubbish piling up in mayfair when i arrived in london in the early seventy's there were you know there were massive it was called the winter
of discontent there was a lot of discontent in the union movement so there were a lot of strikes i remember power cuts walking around with candles and so on and to come from beverly hills los angeles from this world of plenty and light into london plunged into darkness and strife and so on was the most extraordinary kind of movie although it was l.a. was pretty divided well yes yes but then your mum's a tory of course yes. yes yes. in the book that you might you were told by her that you might have to leave the country if there's a labor government yes presumably this is more to do with taxation rather than the way that he was famously called the brain drain in the light in the late seventy's and my mother's friend started i mean i remember she referenced michael caine just left. left to the states and she she didn't really explain it to me in any depth but she just said that the new government to come in which was
a wilson go. they had imposed a new higher tax on creatives and people in the upper brackets and so that that was contributing to her decision to go back to the lead and i wept i really didn't want to leave england you know that was my home and of course for the child you don't understand the wider political picture because we're moving. we're called walked. yes composing is great work yes there's an evil capitalist london yes there is this idea of power a movie scene in the family's life was the studio's presumably it was yes. yes really absolutely i mean the thing is that as we in the golden age of the studio system studio heads like louis b. and the sonic and so on had unbelievable power over the lives of people in it for instance judy garland famously was worked to extinction i mean she was owned by the studio and for me at least i think that's a rather
a moral situation maybe we're evolving out of it now in the current climate where beginning to question the sort of male dominated hollywood. legitimacy your mom didn't feel like that in the seventy's well mom is a great trailblazer for women's rights in entertainment i feel and certainly alexis carrington as a character in her strength of purpose and her no nonsense approach is doing this to some would say could be. deed indeed but i think she really struck a major major blow for women's rights in it which is bearing fruit now. with that character you know the flinty nurse and the high shoulder blades and take no prisoners attitude of alexis that she that she created and know your politics very much with the environmental movement well very much in the. governor actually really just tell me about the impact of his work. to the to the green
movement because i think it came out of his reading of eastern philosophy and eastern is mysticism he saw that there was no real hard division between human beings on the planet. and so at a very early age he had pressed upon me that he human beings were really an outgrowth of nature. and that we really need to take care of the planet and that our fullest potential is to be found in harmony not in not against nature so i have grown up knowing that that is absolutely right on that's the truth i should ask you what does your mother think of the paintings that you've done about your with your i think she finds them fascinating you know we you know it must be interesting to have a child who is sort of chronicling their life from the inside out you know i think it's been an enriching experience for her to see her self through my eyes and that those early chapters in my life through my own eyes she's seen the menu as it were
through me you know anyone reading the book with think there's bound to be a sequel that's actually your next words not going to be that it's going to portraits of friend of the show all of us doing the film director and del you got to tell me what it was like being to go over the unbelievable it was rather like you're going to be the greatest public order to live in washington d.c. indeed indeed the painting is now at the smithsonian in the national portrait gallery in washington d.c. for me it was like heart of darkness was like going up river to meet colonel kurtz who was this extraordinary huge personality who had had such a no norma's presence in american politics and cultural life for half a century and me as a kid i mean i was a virtual kid i was in my late twenty's i'm going brush in hand paint this man. and i spent ten days with him and his. and it was such a he was so the larger than life his discourse was so full of not get some
extraordinary insides that when i got back to london after that ten days with cool my life seemed so small in miniature to me and when i did finally finished picture and i sent a photograph of the finished painting to him because i finished it in london when he saw the finished painting he said i looked like gold on the seventh day having decided it was all a terrible mistake. thank you that same for the show join us on wednesday those chaos made. social media will be back on wednesday twenty three years to the day so he and president slobodan milosevic never found guilty of crimes at the hague signed the so-called dream of submitting to privatization and the breakup of yugoslavia. nobody could see coming that false confessions would profile in the spot the wish
to fall will convert. any interrogation out there what you'll see is threat promise threat promise threat why a lie a lie the process of interrogation is designed to put people in just that frame of mind make the most comfortable make them want to get out and don't take no for an answer don't accept their denials she said if i were. so i stayed there i would be home by that time the next day there's a culture on accountability and police officers know that they can engage in misconduct that has nothing to do with all the. dolly what are the. we care of the music with us.
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