the world reacts as the wiki leaks founder julian assange faces charges both in the u.k. and the u.s. that just hours after police dragged the whistleblower himself out of the south american countries embassy in london. meanwhile a man allegedly linked to a son is arrested in ecuador where some worried about a dangerous precedent being set by a song his arrest we spoke to wiki leaks editor in chief about the possible repercussions. threat to journalists and journalists freedom of the media world. and the military sudan's president arrested and emergency rule imposed all in the
space of twenty four hours to look at the roots of the north east african countries conflict. a very warm welcome to the program from all of us here at r t h q in moscow thanks for joining us this hour. from human rights organizations to politicians across the globe people have been reacting to the arrest of wiki leaks whistleblower julian a song on thursday police officers dragged him out of his refuge in london's ecuadorian embassy after quito cancelled his asylum earlier we discussed the reaction with. cheating a songes arrest has been received by outrage and that's clear from worldwide reaction that still coming in now it appears that there is global solidarity and global voices standing with the song for all his past revelations many people say that his work encouraged people to ask what the most prominent political figures be
hiding and the american civil liberties union that's an organization that defends human rights his face lee condemned songes arrest and a prosecution by the united states of. publishing operations would be unprecedented and you should open the door to criminal investigations of other news organizations moreover prosecuting a foreign publisher for violating u.s. secrecy laws was searched am especially dangerous precedent for us journalists who routinely violate foreign secrecy laws to deliver information vital to the public's interest this is also being reiterated by human rights watch and they say that in this might now think twice before publishing news of public importance or government scrutiny but if we turn our thoughts now to the trumpet ministrations open hostility to mainstream media the general counsel of human rights watch say
that this behavior and this outlook creates a dangerous environment and best bit of gin this all over the world some say it's a bit of a stretch to call a function of a journalist why is that an issue why is that up for debate. well that's quite a bill a real line really between what constitutes as a journalist a publisher or a whistleblower but it seems that it doesn't matter whichever way you look at it in this particular case because this whole situation will be regarded as questioning the freedom of speech and verifying factual information you know if you're either a journalist or a whistleblower but from his supporters in the journalism world the film and. they can try to edward snowden they say it's a dark moments for press freedom images of those on buses inviting the case secret police into the embassy to drag a publisher off like it on the award winning journalism out of the building are going to end up in the history books critics may cheer but this is a dark moment for president them weekly leaks is
a publisher charges now brought in connection with its material or any attempt to extradite assange to united states for prosecution under deeply flawed could you know of the espionage act one thousand nine hundred seventeen is an attack on all of us the dio jesus part of what a science did to just defy his prosecution beyond allegedly helping manning get the documents is that he encouraged manning to get more documents for him to publish journalists do this with sources constantly there's a criminalization of journalism there is also a political science all of this of course the cape prime minister treason may might find this is a breather to bret's it at the moment we head to reason may speaking in the house of commons praising the met police force yesterday saying no one is above the law however this was strongly opposed by the u.k. position party saying a songe should not be extradited to the united states and that this was all about exposing the us military atrocities in iraq and afghanistan let's take
a listen now to both the local and international starts all of this. this whole story with the prosecution and hounding with establishing inhumane living conditions is consigning to oblivion the rights of the freedom of speech to someone eating and summation it is something that it's absolute if you think that i mean that we are talking about that. war. abuses and by elation of your mind i mean that a far right. we absolutely reject julian assange just naturalization and the handover of this australian journalist to the united kingdom in a shameful act surrendering our sovereignty the extradition of julian the sons to the us for exposing evidence of atrocities in iraq and afghanistan should be opposed by the british government one day we saw julian assange being forced out of the ecuadorian embassy looking reeses be stressed and he was essentially being
carried into that police van which was waiting for him outside this was off to ecuador abruptly revoked his asylum we know that relations between the ecuadorian presidents and the son has been to tarry for a long time since he came into power now faces an extradition hearing on the second of may that will be via video link so the next challenge for him is this next legal action battle but one thing's for sure though this expulsion and the potential consequences has gone as outcry worldwide guarding the freedom speech and human rights supporters of joining us have been showing their solidarity both in the u.k. and stateside in washington d.c. they gathered outside the british embassy to protest his possible extradition to the u.s. while london people gathered outside the westminster court was convicted on thursday the whistleblower was forcibly removed from the ecuadorian embassy by police. ah ha.
we talked to wiki leaks editor christian reference and jennifer robinson i found that lawyer about the wider implications of the arrest and what to expect in the days ahead. it might possibly have a chilling effect on your list all over the world if they have to freeze the possibility of being persecuted and thrown into a prison plane to be flown to be. put on trial in a third country and the other states the. marines. the overage that is involved in this. it's a proposed rules so this is a threat to journalism and journalists and the freedom of the media overall what has happened always is what we expected to happen he will take on the fight and
fight for victory and we will help him oh well we were prepared after the lake that we receive for safe last week from the ecuador high of high up official in the ecuadorian government last week there was an agreement between the u.k. and i quote all around his arrest as we've been predicting ecuador has revoked his asylum and they have arrested him on a u.s. extradition request he's holding up incredibly well given the circumstances he asked me to pass on i thank you to all of his supporters for their ongoing support which will be needed in the months and years that think they've come ahead as we face is extradition request a modified it but it is a great concern and he's concerned obviously about the prospect of being asked right to the united states and about the president at that sets for the media everywhere we will of course fight any extradition requests made ited states is a provisional warrant for his arrest they have the next month or so to provide a full request and we will of course fight it this is a massive free speech issue. this is a priest and effect will affect all of the media anywhere in the world
ineffectively means that any journalist or media organization anywhere in the world can be extradited and prosecuted for having published truthful information about the united states and that is as a matter of principle wrong and ought to be resisted and we will be fighting it. it seems the songes biggest fear may now come true as the united states has confirmed that it's requested his extradition he's been charged with conspiring to hack a classified u.s. government computer with whistleblower chelsea manning the justice department says he could face up to five years in prison are to scale up and reports. interestingly we have heard from the u.s. president u.s. president donald trump has been asked about the arrest of julian assange and wiki leaks that he gave an interesting answer and that answer is a little bit different than the answer he gave on the campaign trail let's take a listen i know nothing about wiki leaks it's not my thing and i know there is so pleased having to do with julie i've been seeing we're separated with so.
that will be a determination i would imagine mostly by the attorney general who's doing an excellent job so he'll be making a determination i know nothing really about him it's not my son my deal in life wiki leaks we keep leaks wiki leaks but you leaks still amazing what's coming out on wiki leaks leaky leaks don't we do you league should be leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks wiki leaks and wiki leaks documents wiki leaks i love wiki leaks. it's important to note that essentially you know a songe there is an effort to extradite him now from the u.s. department of justice we have a statement from the eastern district of virginia where they are essentially calling for for the extradition of julian assange on charges of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion in the indictment alleges that a songe coordinated with chelsea manning and together they tried to crack a password in order to get
a defense department information that was classified which wiki leaks eventually published chelsea manning is in the hands of u.s. officials at this time being held and it's important to review what this information that chelsea manning was able to prove. to wiki leaks actually contained let's review some of that information. and i'm.
not a doctor but if you're going to be. does the n.s.a. work any data on the millions of new sort of. wiki leaks walks like a hostile intelligence or talks like a hot or cold turkey. at this point it's important to note that a number of u.s. intelligence officials have declared that wiki leaks is a basically they're referring to it as a russian the asset and this comes in response to these accusations came in
response to wiki leaks publishing the e-mails from the democratic national committee and from hillary clinton's aide john podesta those e-mails were published now it was widely alleged in the united states that came from hacking the. the e-mails were acquired through computer hacking however wiki leaks has maintained that they were provided these e-mails from a leaker a leaker provide these provided these e-mails they did not hack in order to acquire that now in addition to being accused of being a russian asset julian assad has been referred to as being an enemy by a number of u.s. officials the united states do something to stop mr sausage we're looking at right now he should be treated as an enemy combatant which he really should be closed down permanently indecisively this guy is a traitor a treasonous and he has broken every law the united states the guy ought to be i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death penalty want to do it illegally shoot the son of a this is a man of this grown beyond anything i am aware our ignorance or misplaced idealism
is no longer an acceptable excuse for lionizing these demons at this point julius songes not anymore in the ecuadorian embassy and london at this point he has been turned over to u.k. officials he is in their custody now the question remains will he be extradited to the united states many observers speculate that if he comes to the united states he could be facing a lot more than simply this conspiracy of computer intrusion charge that charge only holds the potential for five years in prison so it remains to be seen whether or not julian assad will be extradited to the united states where many speculate he could face much more serious charges than simply the computer hacking charge we discuss the whistleblowers the rest with author lou rockwell and political commentator steve malzberg. we have a country here called the united states of america he compromise sources and methods and diplomats put people at risk you can accept this as a nation you must prosecute these people and subject them to the fullest penalties
the law allows the store to see that mr trump who praised him so many times during the two thousand and sixteen election is now claims he never heard of him never read so we can weeks we're not supposed to know what our government does spied on all the unbelievably evil things that the u.s. government does i'm sorry to say that that's true but the u.s. government is by the way a force not a force for good in the world anymore if it ever was have you ever worn a uniform sir let's let first what i'd like to see every single thing that was revealed put in context what was happening i'm not here to debate what was revealed we're here to debate did this man commit a crime is a terrible thing julian a son who was tortured also when they in the ecuadorian embassy he was not being fed properly he had no. telephone personal communication no internet for a very long time in this little tiny room you saw him today being pulled out by the british secret police there was quite something terrible to say i love the fact
that my counterpart sits here and just you know says whatever he wants without any facts the m.f.f. told won't you have no facts so that he wasn't tortured in the embassy somebody is tortured he is free to leave i woulda left long time ago in the conditions you're putting forth he's never claimed he was tortured or that embassy where do you get that from i love this everybody is evil except the bad guys in your world if in fact julian assad did what the united states government said he did to now no one's talking about the death penalty and no one's talking even about life in prison that right now the indictment under the charges he faces that would be five years in prison the u.s. plans to step on him and to make sure that try to make sure that nobody else ever does with wiki leaks and julian no signs of none and he's going to be. punished it's not going to be five years it's going to be the rest of his life if in fact julian massaged did what the united states government said he did he to now no one's talking about the death penalty and no one's talking even about life
imprisonment right now the indictment under the charges he faces that would be five years in prison but they're especially upset about is the you tube of the of the people. the groaners killing people laughing about it yucking it up so much fun and then doing what the mafia calls a double tap where they would kill some people then wait till the rescue was came and then they all yanked it up above killing the rescuers so this is we're not supposed to see that kind of thing of course we're not supposed to know what our government does if someone from the new york times or the washington post or any media outlet here in this country helped someone break in to somewhere to get information or hack into a computer they'd be prosecuted you can't do that that's not being a journalist that's being a criminal and if you're doing your you run the you run the risk of being prosecuted fellow whistleblower and former cia employee edward snowden has called the arrest of julian assange a dark moment for press freedom snowden himself on asylum in russia after he leaked
classified information back in two thousand and fifteen bucks on a boycott from the world apart asked the son whether he'd prefer to switch places with snowden here's what he had to say. unlike a prisoner. and have. visitors to make telephone calls but i want to make them yes there are more yes of course that monitored. we can develop ways and have ways to avoid that want to transfer cases. i find it quite unusual that. i was able to coordinate. edward snowden's asylum. with myself being in this situation of having to escort to asylum because i was very highly motivated having being in the situation myself i didn't
want to see it but serving those as well would you trade places with edward snowden . brought it out yeah in a heartbeat yes that is suddenly to be free in russia. and have some type of freedom of movement international is much prefer of all to any person. myself or chelsea manning or many others who are . kept it effectively in confined to one. small space.
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have a chip and signature on the on the jews and on the ones they have a bedouin trouble yes we have. the president of the north east african country of sudan has been ousted by the country's military following months of violent anti-government protests the sudanese defense minister announced that he newly formed military council will be put in charge for the next two years local journalists i mean reports from sudan. as serious of them in a three and. by this statement of the letter meant i want to declare the transition period of sudanese government for two years that his statement came as a result for the demonstration started and december encouraged to by the security forces dealt with that demonstration by violence which goes i cruising to the human rights organisation and the medical committee you sit on. for more than forty people dead great number more than three million sudanese people gather around the
head roger of the military marine is to don asking put the phone down all the sheer reading which controls more than thirty years now in cartoon street a great number maybe reach for five million be able sort of wait for the falls on the rigi and asking for a good transition period instead of. when news of them are bashir the rest came people in sudan took to the streets to celebrate his removal over it the mood of the protestors quickly changed as artie's explains. the dictates of fuld's and the people were drew it's happy empowered optimistic it's it's always the same how many times have we seen this happen this decade revolution in africa in the middle east the dictator amal
bashir was removed by the military which sided with the people. sort of what the militant was really up to the military takes full responsibility for changing the entire regime for a transitional period of two years in which the government will be handled by the armed forces. now you couldn't a stand why people are a bit miffed they rebelled risked everything to get rid of a dictator for freedom for democracy and what they go to the end is a military regime what has been just stated is frost's a coup and it is not acceptable they are recycling the faces and this will return us to where we have been on the other hand consider how much worse it could have been temporary military rule may just have been the lesser of two evils but these revolutions rarely and well.
a grim even depressing picture yet it seems people just don't learn from the past earlier this week we heard the same tired calls from the u.k. u.s. norway calls for regime change. the demand for political change from the courageous and resilient people of sudan is becoming ever clear and more powerful the sudanese people are demanding a transition to a political system that is inclusive and has greater legitimacy there is a reason they wanted him gone out so much because he's a dictator they have plenty of tyrannical friends no because mr bashir like solly and gadhafi before him made inroads with the west's rivals boosted relations
trade military and economic cooperation with china with russia iran. which i think if you get any air of iranian conflict will harm the whole region arrow counter ease and iran itself neither iran nor the arabs would leave the region i suppose the burst option is to kill exist and deal with the problems that we have through dialogue and negotiations it is better than using guns and that it would appear was an unforgivable sin the united states considers africa its own and doesn't want anyone else on its tough unfortunately billions upon billions of us taxpayer dollars have not achieved desired effects they have not prevented other powers such as china and russia from taking advantage of african states to increase their own power and influence from now on the united states will not tolerate this
longstanding pattern of it without effect to be fair mr bolton hardly helped years of u.s. sanctions of civil war atrocities and the split up of the country have left their mark so don is a traumatised nation expecting democracy and magical reforms overnight is well it was never going to happen that's our global news update for this hour but don't forget you can always have. our website r.t. dot com for the details on all the stories and many more.
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