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season of the decade coming up in this show a legacy of the brutal british back to provide good strokin to shape we talked to one of the most popular politicians in south america's richest country sheerly for geo jackson about overthrowing governments in latin america allied to washington london and brussels and award winning journalist greg palast explains our new liberalism born of western business schools has led to revolution wherever the people of latin america have sought freedom and justice plus the director of moscow winning film still alice wash westmoreland on the class fold lines at the core of his new film for netflix. only small coming up at today's going on the ground 0 1st it was 49 years ago this month that salvador allende was inaugurated as president of chile latin american country today is not only in the midst of an uprising against the liberal president sebastian pinera but witnessing solidarity protests for palestine after more u.k. armed violence in the middle east involving serial u.n. resolution violates israel in the past 24 hours i into would die in office
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overthrown and replaced by anglo american backed dictator augusto pinochet and according to some leaders fighting global neoliberalism the legacy of pinochet lives on. board they don't want to lecture they want to and wipe us away in a pinochet style. sometimes we say these hard things and in europe and other places they see it as an exaggeration or extremist and it's not exaggerated they want to put a pinochet in place in venezuela i mean sino today democratically elected maduro may still be in power in venezuela custodian of the world's greatest known reserves of oil even after attempts by the european union to overthrow him but in chile washington's man is in trouble accused of reviving the days when u.k. companies armed pinochet to torture his people after so many years of trying to recover from a long dictatorship of almost 20 years you have an open wound in the chilean
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society when you have the military on the street and that's another thing that we have to take into account when understanding this crisis is that trauma of land society of having the military on the street is open again with this repression in human rights violation joining me now via skype is a member of the chamber of deputies of chile the democratic revolution politician or to jackson who is envelop ari's a city that has seen violent clashes between protesters and police want your thanks for joining us before we get to the latest violence reminds us way of the global south and even those in nature nation countries look to what's happening in chile as a chronicle of politics foretold the legacy of new liberal dictatorship by a good stupid machine in chile. well thanks 1st of all for this interview it's very important where the sap and here in chile we within knock only because of our
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country but also for the region and also because as you said she was in the in the seventy's in the eighty's under the dictatorship she doesn't like an experiment of the new liberal policies without a democratic process you know under a dictatorship so it today we. we're living in the rules that the boys as we said to this academicians who passed with milton friedman's policies before newlyweds in the rest of the world she was the 1st experiment in the last 30 or 40 years os implemented to our development who is mainly focused on the concentration of our economy and the trickle down economy. ideology these demonstrations have relieved or release some energy who was very tied up inside of the people's mind of the people heart that it
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wasn't able to get to the end of the months without having to spend with credit so i think that when everything is privatized you can not access to that basic rights that should be grand where anted so i think this is one of the main issues whom people in the streets are. protesting on if the privatization chicago privatization model is the same can you really look at the dead the wounded and the tamed in chile today and compare it though the nearest policies and positions policies. now i think that the contacts of course are different between dictatorships not only that union one but they all all the dictator city in the seventy's and eighty's are different that their soft dictatorships are different kind of the greater shiba are utterly since in the 21st century so i think we are
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living today a lot of repression. different marlo's that. the democratic whistle lucian's in order to change things for example this constitution this model and today we're discussing except that how the policies are not. enough for the population and the country is very polarized but the majority want to change the constitution's once a tool hire to get higher wages went to hot more social security that we don't have because it's privatized so i think that yes but he says. the opposition is not. it's not enough that what. he's putting on the table you know but it has to be said that pinera arguably like the former british backed dictator british a claims he has we need to go make lee successful he said he's reduced poverty
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route 65 percent to 8 percent according to what he said while the british state mandated b.b.c. . so let's be clear it has been successfully not because i mean he's one of the most billionaires people here in chile one of the top 5 billionaires and he like to make one of the top 10 or 20 probably but our country. is not about democracy numbers today they are in employment it's high it's a day. or numbers of economic growth are not what was expected to be with it would be yes promises on campaign but more than that people cannot get into the end of the month people have asked to to to have credit in order to buy in the supermarket the basic incomes i mean but it did basic thanks to good to eat our economical elite house and get that didn't get the message until these days ok but then for
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you and your movement the trade unions and premier they're supporting a new constitution presumably an updated version of that new liberal pinochet 1980 constitution do you feel you it's not enough you want to constituent assembly plebiscites. this is what the n.s.a. that a few days ago in national television. he said that he wants also new constitution but in terms of what his did mechanisms he didn't say anything new because the current constitution the constitution puts qualms in order to change the continuation there are 2 thirds of the members of the of the house in order to change it until you know they cut the proposal of it's only rhetorical because they don't want to put a democratic constitution that doesn't pass describes so it's like
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a trap it's like a retake track but people who are. in favor and people are reading the constitution people are starting to understand what are these locks that are from 981 from the communist mind and pinochet's. constitution and i are people are starting to realize that we doubt a process does a constituent process could be named assembly where you want to call it but we doubt this locks that very very tight it's impossible to have a democratic constitution ok your movement has shut down the apec conference where trump was supposed to sign a new u.s. a trade deal with china which he didn't bring also there was a climate covered you shut down the what next because obviously the world news chile because of copper the world's largest copper production copper mines are in
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chile have you got the workers the copper miners on your side because according to financial news wires your movement is not affecting the copper commodity prices which presumably could be crucial. 1st of all it's i don't think this is my movement i feel that i don't river send exactly the movement of course we're on the streets but the movement. it doesn't have like a head or power to this leading it it's quite more decentralized and morally quit but i think that the demands of course are not to take down the conference or the opic because that's not the subject of the movement your question about the coverage workers there's a lot of support and there's a little bit of. strikes. on their minds but has not been until now a massive strike on the demining sector if the government sets there's going to be
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a referendum in order to choose their paths or for how we change the constitution probably did movement. celebrated as a victory ok but any expectation the international dock workers council may get a solidarity campaign going on 5 continents like when the liverpool strikes are on here in 1905 is that the kind of where we're going and do you fear military reprisal. well sadly the 1st days of opinion us response were military state of emergency and we have suffered 5 people dead killed killed by the state agents we have more than 4000 people detained there has been people tried to there has been more than 200 people without an eye because of the shots that the police do today manifestations of the
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demonstrations so we're very worried about this spiral of violence that to take place on the streets because in the 1st place t.v. doesn't have a tradition of riots there are so high like this but when the police i thought there were a get out they have been acting this weeks and of course people started to response and that's not something that we want we just want to this taking a political path but the government refuses this so strictly we're having violation of human rights by the agents of the state and that's something that. rejects. in other territories in our region but here in ne ne ne in domestic land. was decided to send repression in today's demonstrations to create a bigger gap between the demand and the response so people are more politicized and
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yesterday and probably without the political decision of the referendum it's difficult to get into a solution or your jackson thank you after the break award winning journalist greg palast on the return of the pink tribe surging across latin america from chile to brazil to ecuador and we explore the global tremors of a new release go to produce netflix film earth quake bird with the film's award winning director watch west brom. well the civil coming up in part 2 of going underground. you know world big part of the movie lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and
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welcome back in the 1st half we heard from one of chile's most popular politicians about the struggle to free the country from the constitution of u.s. u.k. back dictator augusto pinochet but for more of that and other fights for democracy taking place now for america i'm joined now by a skype by award winning muckraker greg palast who's in los angeles california greg thanks so much for coming back on so we heard from a chilean politician you've been one of the world's greatest communicators about globalization what cit made you feel seeing violence in chile could be the cradle of neo liberalism. look this is an old story we've now had for decades of battles back and forth between the neo cons and globalization free market liberalization which basically means allowing u.s. and european companies to grab the resources of latin america they do it under the cover of free markets democracy which oddly doesn't involve respecting elections so i seen this i was you know reporting on the ground out of venezuela out of peru
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out of argentina out of chile and so i've seen this again and again where then you have popular uprisings you know you have popular elections putting in people like john is you have a home or alephs you had to kitchener's in argentina you had progressive in like battle it in. in chile and of course the neo cons the banks the big companies cannot stand it so they have so-called popular uprisings which are very popular because they can actually win elections and basically seize power gets a coup d'etat because you have a trump administration there obviously fueled by a feeling that they have complete backing of the u.s. state department and government you mentioned marama as the media here and you know their interest so if it is talking not about resources maybe see if had he resigned
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amid turmoil cook or why his reelection why be seen as for you know bloomberg that he quit c.n.n. that he resigned washington post resigned the new york times the end of tyranny what can you call it a clue. ok 1st of all there was an election and he won ok there's a dispute over whether there is no question there's a big dispute over whether he won enough to avoid a runoff but he won by a plurality of 10 percent ok i mean 10 percentage points is a landslide in any nation but it wasn't clear that the dispute was whether he wanted to avoid a runoff and instead this. dispute over whether he call it whether you want by a landslide in one clear or not resulted in an opening for foreign interests and of course the the right wing to try to seize power once again in the santa cruz area the rich area which basically the white you know you don't forget racism in this he was the 1st. indigenous person ever elected the head of
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libya which is an indigenous nation and there's a lot of racism and also his you know opposition to his progressive agenda so they seized power they were going to try to say let's have an election because he even offered and that wasn't good enough they literally seized the presidential palace guys who weren't elected an auteur right wing organizations that were that seize the presidential palace and now they see you know they're trying to overwhelm the elected and i want to underline that the elected congress which are from the party of evil morales and so there it's about overturning democracy and you know this become a new trope i see this in in venezuela where the british and german and of course the trump government. has endorsed this guy why dos as the so-called president of venezuela he didn't even bother running for office and by the way in
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all these cases you'll notice something very very important the candidate is the president picked by foreign powers and again chosen by foreign powers not by the people are all white and racism is a gigantic part of the story of the control of latin america well i'm sure brussels and washington would deny racism but arguably they have failed in their attempts to overthrow the government of my doro of course because you know the world's largest known oil reserves tell me about the school of the americas because 6 of the key plotters in bolivia went to the school of the americas what is that well as cool the americas as a kind of. it's a training ground basically for coup plotters what it is it's supposed to be in place to to show latin american military how to behave properly you know that this is suppose it was started because latin american military was simply killing its citizens who were going to tell them how to control the
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population and do it politely without killing people in fact it became a school for coup plotters and of course encouraging the takeover of latin nations because the truth is that the us government and us corporations are quite unhappy with the idea of democracy in latin america and with venezuela oil was obviously an important element tell me about lithium because otherwise bolivia is just one of the poorest of the poorest country in latin america that we all carry a possibility a with us in our mobile phones and is that part of a crew yeah i mean one of the one of the problems we've had this is all over the world live is not a special case it has lithium just as the democratic republic of congo has. a cold hand and also lithium and uranium it's a resource grab it see old game that. we had in the 19th century in the early 20th century of grabbing resources except we don't do it making the anymore we have to cover it up saying oh we're restoring democracy by removing elected officials let's
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face it if venezuela's main export were broccoli instead of oil they wouldn't care who's president there no forget that in the case of venezuela to give you a clear example. of them and during government refused a request by the british government and british petroleum to turn over what was the french concession in venezuela to british petroleum to b.p. now to endure a government that was 2 years ago of the manure government simply handed b.p. the french concession in venezuela there would be no problem with the madeira government but madeira said no we're keeping it we're going to give it to the to the venezuelan oil company paid in mesa and it was at that point that the british government and of course all the other european governments said well then in that case you're not a legitimate president you would have been quite legitimate if you turned over the oil to be pete well as you know b.p.
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and european union governments will deny that and say it's all about human rights act show me and we could oso talk about the optimism of the return of the pink tide maybe the late today i want to ask you now though about voter suppression you're an expert on it will the 2020 election in the united states be fair. no not a chance america is a great imitation of democracy but we remove in the last 2 years are you ready for this united states as the various states have removed 14000000 voters from the voter rolls it's called purging and they're removed you know it's like a and i'm up for the voter rolls to put in the crudest terms and they're removing mainly voters of color black people hispanic and a lot of young people and they use all kinds of of tricks and it's usually involving what we call jim crow or racist tactics but always it's black voters and that's not just one state that's happening in 25 states in america. thank you very
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much. well themes of national identity surveillance and globalism are explored in the new ridley scott produced netflix film earthquake bird which is just premiered on the service in the past 24 hours the no no i detective story comes from the director of off go in a still alice wash westmoreland and stars another oscar winner x. magnus allison have a cow and i went to meet the director in central london tell me about earthquake bird earthquake it is a story about a young woman who's living in japan in the 1980 s. and she's working as a translator and she gets thrown into a love triangle and becomes a prime suspect in a horrific murder so it's kind of a tokyo noir and it's starring in a civic and exact produced by ridley score the whole film is would you say very global let alone the fact she lead actress with a speaking japanese it is a global film we had a korean d.p. we had a mainly japanese crew we have an australian producer alyse is from sweden and i'm
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from leeds i mean how global is are they all have jobs last time you were going underground he said there's always an awareness of clothes and economics in the midst everything they're all having to put joy you're a wilding going through mental trauma yes they are and you. do get like clues into what their background has been and you know how they've arrived at that economic position in japan why they're there and what their struggles are do you think there is an element in the theme of the film i know it's from from a novel but. getting to grips with grief there is absolutely a theme of getting to get grips with grief i think ultimately it's a psychological thriller and you don't expect it to come through but it's about survivor's guilt it's about someone who's come into contact with a lot of death and is trying to process it in a way a lead character has p.t.s.d. she feels like she's a death magnet that so many you know traumatic events have been around her in the
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past and she's taking the guilt and the blame for it so people watching. will learn something from within the not to blame themselves well there is a certain catharsis in the film yes that i feel people my connect to when they see it but obviously it's a super personal issue for anyone who's struggling with this is just this one character and how she breaks through very important you know do oriental those japan in the film give and take swaped that well yeah i mean you know it's a story of a westerner living in japan last thing i wanted to do was to like another exotic size they shouldn of japan or have sort of stereotypes just kind of been used over and over in western cinema so i really sort of my own approach was to avoid that i believe that the novel was written from that point of view too but also work very closely with japanese collaborators and all my crew was japanese and we very much
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formed a kind of very open communication about how to make this authentic and respectful to japanese way of life these are the people i want to hear from i don't want to hear it like after the films made i want to hear it before the film what is the earthquake or is it in the eyes of the viewer the. well i think earthquakes are events that unsubtle you i think anyone's been like you think everything's normal and then suddenly everything around you start shaking so i think they are something that shows you that the reality that we perceive is actually fragile and our earthquakes are quite real because the sets were built on hydraulic platforms and there were bill in japan to test furniture and buildings for earthquakes and they actually the earthquakes we use in the film are real of quakes like they have to yokohama earthquake and the one that happened in the going up programmed into
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the hydraulic platform so there are real earthquakes that we saw has nothing to do with the 2 of the studio godzilla of earthquake there's you know there's no my is shaking of the table and watching the ornaments wobble this is like the whole was actually physically having an earthquake and of course there was grief obviously in still alice in collapse the grief as opposed was the patriarchy in the media this is a big theme for you well here really the 3 films that i made most recently still alice color and earthquake bird are all very different genres but they have similarities are all about women struggling against things in their life. you know. how and is struggling against disease and her future and collette is struggling against her husband and the patriarch in her present tense and you know the character of lucy fly is really struggling to deal with her past of everything that she's brought
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with her from her home country and she's trying to forget about it in japan you sailors in a war but the way it's directed is nothing like forty's or fifty's in a war or maybe you put the way to make someone new is not for everyone to pretend to be humphrey bogart you know that is just a pastiche and watson. me is a crime drama with elements of psychology and style and that's what the true great wars were throughout history is really influenced by in war called out of the past by chuck turner that's kind of you know considered one of the our all time classics but also a contemporary neo nor are made by the chorus our called the cure that was made in the ninety's that had a big influence on the style and the town of the piece so i thought to do something new with norah be interested to do a gender inversion usually it's a guy who's escaping from the past and they have a. kind of dark and alluring and this would be a woman who's escaping from the past and she meets this guy who's an arm fatale who
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has a real attraction but also carries a real danger for you know the lead mailers are known for modeling yet well yeah the guy who plays taser is called naoki kobayashi and he's known into power as a pop star and a dancer and he's just started doing acting work with plays t.v. so really it was a huge sort of jump for him but he had so many qualities that worked so well for the character you have this intensity in this charisma and this intuitive understanding of their character so i found he did this sort of amazing portrayal of taiji and he worked very well with alysia like their chemistry and so it was terrific. bush thank you thank you that's it for your favorite shows of the last season we will be back with a brand new cd going on the ground on january the 8th until they contribute positional social media and if you get to subscribe to the guns your child will
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have a good deal. as a lot of it here is the economy where china has caught up more surpassed us you know the mobile payments markets 50 times the size of the us or over here still writing checks our banking system is not innovated 5 g. we've kind of recently woken up the last couple years and go wow we don't even have a company that can make 5 g. equipment it's been a win win for china and it's been a lose lose for the us. what politicians do. they put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. or somehow want to. have to go right to the press this is what before 3 of them or 10 people get. interested in the water.
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question. her purse not come on but if it lives. up who thinks her mother so you could be in the shredder and get rid of it fantastic 8098 but here how could it be along with brian saying good riddance to the purple cast that i have been that they don't really want to give. the arena a new clear deal these are those good did if a you countries bowed to u.s. pressure that's the message from russia these top diplomats have just held talks in moscow.


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