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6 trait. a lot of young people know nothing about julian epstein joe we. do know julian astound you do you know anything about this man and what happened to him do you want to know about your battle 10 years ago. wiki leaks with a stockholm lot of information about the crimes that were being committed by western governments they war crimes but mostly the us governments and particularly the murder of innocent civilians come on. board that country just pretend to know and this is the 1st and they didn't think about the economics of it kind of forced us to acknowledge it you know we couldn't ignore it
. he's an idealist he's on a mission he's on a mission to empower people with information. to use restraint. but this comes with the crimes i'm alone isn't being charitable he's been what he was in the ecuadorian embassy for 8 years 7 or 8 in. a long time he spent in prison basically and that now he's being fair many months in the present. there are a lot of people that want him in prison a lot of the very powerful needs of this department is conducting a thorough aggressive investigation to determine how this leak could occur to identify the person or persons responsible.
person. and i think. that's what he's facing the dishes trying to much older brother clive gamble with stateside. yes harvey any reason to suggest that he's not he's trying to. i don't think you can really understand julian assange. or wiki leaks without seeing an aspect of his life that him and that was absolutely here in melbourne and it formed him not only in terms of his ideas. his personality his expertise but also his conceptual thinking about forming software projects including wiki.
so melbourne in the late eighty's and early ninety's became the center of the strain underground which included cars and experimenters and also there's not just in the sense of people who broke into things illegally but also people who just experimented with. who didn't take long for australia's hacking community to embrace the young. teenagers they spent most of their time online but did occasionally venture out and with. this square in central melbourne. this is the historic town hall and it was the site along with some other sort town halls in melbourne. and other members of that technology community were here in their late teens and early twenty's shopping for computer bits and exchanging ideas information about how to experiment with hardware and software.
on this. person. to use due to memory understanding. i didn't. just write that he would be for a short time. one of the world's most. it's very interesting the hacker mentality from this time period they wanted the thrill of getting into the system that was ted. and the more procedures the in the institution the more thrilled they got so if they could break into now such.
things were the smartest people stay with people who had put man on the moon really if you could break into their systems then you could prove to yourself you're a 17 year old boy you 2 are very smart. the u.s. space agency nasa is one of the victims of the melbourne computer hacking syndicate american investigators including the f.b.i. contacted a strain authorities with a suspicion insists on october the 16th 1989 nasa was attacked by what was known as the wenck virus that caused a space shuttle launch in florida to be postponed and was traced to australian hackers in melbourne the wenck worm was one of the 1st ever worms that had been written and it was certainly the 1st politically motivated wireman that carried a political message that message was a quote from the midnight oil song and that quote was you talk of times of peace
for all and then prepare for war. this thing that was the way. it emerged from a sort of deep dark. forest you got a glimpse of it and then disappeared again and the authors have never been found although some see this might be one of jewel in a songes dealings. people have lots of different views on these things. julian was very lucky growing up in that although he grew up in a fairly poor family canonically it was very rich intellectually. julian's father is a very clever and creative person and quite sensitive i think he's been enormously important to julia's development as a young adult. as
a young man joanne was. a daughter her choice. and nick and i were reserved because she would always. come up with a new approach to things your way of looking at things. what a number of truck person have said to me is that. they get a different perspective on the world from the systems they've been in and that's because they are able to see the actual information these are. directly contradicting what an organization may say publicly or someone a politician may say publicly they understand that the public is being told something that is just not just a little lie often it's a very big lie that helped maybe develop enjoins mind. the super importance of media organizations being able to report accurately on information. and.
players and cup. which were to. fastened 6 or something like that quite early on then you're right and julian said. i'd like to start and we can. learn this week he would concern so it's leaks. and we would use 3 total as an anonymous from people who wanted to marry information and that information. did you try to warn him about anything at that time. no one would you and young man on the cusp of life you don't care warnings to say well how can i help. but i've always taken nature's aphorism. to hide leave dangerous for me. to leave dangerous we don't creep
around the place being frightened of shadows. do what you have to do and then face the consequences as the best you can. that's me my god all my life. it is. not. enough to see. 60 or 2560. that we had burst out why positions so. i 1st heard about with nixon you know aside. from the helicopter food scene in
iraq the famous was he was where we saw. the helicopter shoot people on the ground . but of all of your average come on. the helicopter shot up some civilians and in the process shot to his job just to local forces jones and they also shot up some children in a car. bomb around the area going to their friends. or even more. american military personnel misidentified civilians as rebels. from overhead and it looked as though one of the men had a gun. but it was just
a reuters camera man holding a lot. of the day i saw the collateral but mortar b.t.o. i said if we know for get enough for again because i escaped it was what the 1st time as i was screaming loud at my own feast this the soldiers are us with dissed emotional detachment as they were playing video games and now with the lives of people in such a cold way. here is actual shocking video footage fact irrefutable evidence of what happened and what has been described to me by one retired military person actually here in australia as undoubtedly a war crime i want to welcome one. after the shooting of july 13th 2007
u.s. military commanders justified the attack claiming that its troops had been in battle with hostile forces guy that my pair of over. we have. approaching a big and i'm nobody. but 2 children well that they were in a van when their father approached the side of the shooting to help mr ford we have individuals go on. to monitor. where. it was really fascinating for me was when i saw an interview with an american soldier who was there on that spot after they killed
them and shot them and then it was the young. officer who went to the van and discovered that there were 2 children at that were wounded and he said the little girl couldn't blink because her eyes were full of grass and he tried to burn the cross from our eyes when he spoke to his supervisor and wanted to take her to a decent hospital he was told washout you know for john up. to the 1st time we understood. disability in casualties the innocent people who were killed in both afghanistan and iraq and this was all kept from the public. doing sons showed real bravery in being willing to publish frankly and fearlessly that video and i think that there are people within the u.s.
military who have never forgiven him for it. that helicopter attack resulted in 12 deaths 2 children were wounded no one from the american military has ever been held accountable. we go to work you straight home. the sudden and illegal takeover of a government by a small group. so rather than revolutionaries all soldiers conduct small group
the corporations when you have a tiny group of people who have all the power you have to have some means to make sure that the best don't get together and take it back. lisa sacrificed sons places that capitalism exploited and destroyed for profit and left behind misery poverty environmental devastation and so you see things like voter suppression building more prisons you seem gerrymandering all sorts of undemocratic practices for wealth use of that world for well for this world and there's no question that the cars have. blue 2 months ago most of you lou them are going to sign this is going to be more
security or genuine ring founder julian assange the only interest on credibility and more revelations on the way the new things on scientology and the sound of the room is a little more leisurely that is after collateral mother julian assange. revealed his identity and was known i mean it was front page news all over the world at that point. only to julian assange has become a hot global topic but he'd found a way to publish classified information and made it available to anyone who wanted to share someone else's secrets. the idea of developing an anonymous digital dropbox and applying it to a media organization that is wiki leaks that was the 1st people hadn't really done that before that was that was julian assange. it enabled the whistleblower who were. low cost with just the right couldn't d.v.d. and the use of the right tools to anonymously. blow the whistle by transmitting
like large amounts of data. today we release over 287. documenting the reality of an international mass surveillance industry. here has. been has a patent barrier. here uses g.-mail. well you're all screwed. what is this place and where were all those files actually kept . in the cloud it's somewhere. julian magically brought together. computers digitalized and information and before we. know when
someone called you know songs knocked on the door from one club i was quite pleased to see him i was quite keen that we would have somebody who was making the news. my name's form smith. no i'm a journalist. but more i run something called the frontline club which i founded which is the press club for justice and. it all happened in this room i mean julian literally turned up and knocked on the door and literally on the announce he knocks on the door 2 days before that press conference saying i want a press conference on julian assange quite literally and so we arranged a press conference from and it was on a monday morning he was standing here. he was up here and we had a podium we had that podium and we had it here and he was standing here and it's from this position he raised up the guardian front page. and you know that's when the whole thing started so this is the guardian from this morning 40. 40
pages about this topic. also correlate in the spiegel 17 pages. just a couple of months after the video of the baghdad helicopter attack against civilians was published yet more revealing nations appeared this time it was the afghanistan and iraq dossier as. the afghanistan and iraq does he was classified pentagon files on u.s. and allied military activity in afghanistan and iraq from 2004 to 2009. these were logs that were written by members of the military who might be out at the front or patrolling an area and might be things safe sane or accepting they experienced on their shift or patrol so it was almost a sort of a very detailed war diary. by the americans and the british in but it didn't occur
to me that it could be so informants is. because it was a huge data sets 400000 classified reports field reports by the u.s. army this. these 3 most accurate descriptions hold it is equivalent being released into the story we are counted no 122000 in the sunni triangle teams in the war there's nearly no street corner in baghdad that didn't have a body that fell into being killed 3 volunteer one form or another if it was we found out from the iraq and afghanistan dosia's the us undertone is allegedly under reported civilian casualties prisoners of war was subjected to violent acts of torture of u.s. military personnel who were reportedly involved in child prostitution.
when you have published his publishing secrets the government stops losing control of the narrative that had a narrative in iraq. no civilian did. and then they lost control of that narrative because we found out the truth. that's the power of we hear a the battlefield consequences of the release of these documents are potentially severe and dangerous for our troops our allies and the afghan partners and may well damage our relationships and reputation in that key part of the war and one of the main criticisms is being devil that you know is that you have. the villages that the names and some cases the g.p.s. coordinates of people afghans who cooperated with the u.s. military and a u.s. official has called it a potential hit list for the taliban what's your response to that is there was some peers to mostly be mean you're beat up i mean where we're looking at the issue
seriously to see where that is true or purge the white house to austin for assistance in reviewing material before we published the white house in order except that request they always say oh they have blood on their hands and they. people in danger but i think if anyone would have been killed because of we killings they would have dragged the 1st men front of the camera all proved it taken against them sold i think it's just a blatant lie is it possible that the 1st tranche of data from the afghan war logs could have been better redacted guests quite probably they could have been better protected had anyone ever done this before no there was no roadmap i mean telling the soldier wiki leaks they were bushwhacking through thick forests to try and figure out how to do this. the afghanistan and iraq don't see just what the biggest leak they have a plan shone a light on war crimes allegedly perpetrated by the us can digitalize. no one from
america's military has ever been held accountable. and. a little bit over 10 years ago i was contacted by. a person. who i didn't know at that point environmental. wanted to meet with me and i met a. person who spoke with a very strong australian accent and he told me that they had a problem program if it wanted to do a project. when we met. my in the. feeling was that this was. completely outlandish and there was nothing to it so we parted way but we kept contact and a little bit later. came the publications of the collateral murder video where you
could see helicopter gun down that's a u.s. helicopter in iraq gunning down reuters journalists on an open street and so when i realized that he was serious about isn't there. julian assange invited yohannes to work with him on a new collection of classified documents little fall into we can expand. this time correspondence from the united states diplomatic service. the diplomatic cables. that we can leaks published a little bit later they were a set of internal briefings if you put it this way or analysis. that all of the american diplomats. wrote and delivered back to the state department. leaked u.s. diplomatic cables published on november the 28th 2010 it contains u.s.
diplomatic correspondents from $966.00 to 2010 and includes 100000 documents marked confidential and $15000.00 marked secret. you have to understand the scale of this release of information if we took these cables and we printed them out into and they would go betweens in petersburg and moscow it is that much material i can give you. a simple example of what was interest in those cables in regard to sweden because i worked with the materials that were related in these documents we could see here and that swedish politicians of them come to the u.s. ambassador and they ask for services and the services they would ask for would be. we have a problem with this we are sure of public opinion they would sit there as we have public opinion doesn't like the war in afghanistan and they don't want us to
participate in the war afghanistan could you please help us there by inviting some afghani women here to sweden and we'll put them on swedish t.v. so they can talk about the good things that we're doing there suddenly you're we found out. swedish politicians and swedes are sure as public servants they're cutting the way the would be democracy is supposed to function and they're doing that together with with us said diplomats contrary to the interests of the swedish people one of the hopeful things that i've discovered. is that really every war that is thought of. as being a result. media often what does that mean. that means basically populations by market. and populations have to be fooled into will. be. treated as an enemy combatant which really should be closed down
permanently and decisively to try to reduce any broken every big what you think it was what the hotel is that. we're going to know the answer is not that it's open a pretty good elysia. union was that is high some popularity when sweden. vats he attracted. us ladies. it's understandable that he would be attractive to young men and he's. a young man and she said his ambition is very high and noble noble ambitions so that made him even more attractive.
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