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the fragile ceasefire takes effect between azerbaijan and armenia in the disputed not go to region but both sides already accuse each other of violating the truce. second u.s. presidential debate is canceled after donald trump refuses to take part remotely and while the president holds his 1st public event since contract think over 1000 democrats are saying his condition makes him unfit for office. plus new coronavirus restrictions that sparked protests in many countries prompting a warning from global health officials. your headlines up and back in just under an hour's time with another look.
here we're going underground 11 years of the day that armenia and turkey signed these protocols intended to normalize relations between the 2 they have yet to be ratified by either side something felt today as fighting rages between armenia and azerbaijan in a corner kyra back coming up in the show how will war in your asia escalate after our exclusive interview with the azerbaijani ambassador of u.k. here the other side of the golden karabakh from a member of armenia's parliamentary committee on the protection of human rights and public affairs and reinvestigating another former soviet communist country asking that kyrgyzstan ambassador to britain what's behind what's seen as yet another tulip revolution in central asia all the more coming up in today's going underground but 1st ukrainian president brought to me as an end ski side a new partnership agreement with the u.k. this week after u.k. foreign secretary dominic graham. announced
a 5000000000 pound aid package for those in ukraine affected by conflict in coronavirus the u.k.'s defacto support of azerbaijan meanwhile has left some questioning whether the u.k. involvement in this week's violence in nagorno-karabakh will stretch further than just cause for a cease fire half the region's population has been displaced by the fighting on wednesday's show we spoke to azerbaijan's ambassador to the u.k. who claimed amin year is the sole aggressor in the conflict that has reportedly cost hundreds of lives you can catch up with that interview on our you tube channel but to hear from the other side joined from armenia's capital yerevan by a member of parliament and its committee on the protection of human rights and public affairs maria current that you have thank you so much area for coming on so as i said we had the ambassador and he said it's your country that are solely to blame is that true and what are the numbers a your hearing of the numbers killed or injured. as i'm watching all the interviews that the president and president and here in these days
a war that he has waged on never in a crowd in. the armenian stare i see every single one of his interviews as a confession of how he attacked never in accra and as an attempt to justify why he should attack they themselves are saying that our niña is there blaming our year for being interested in cementing because that was quite right expressed their frustration with this as well so they themselves explain why any new has no interest in attacking 1st and trying to make the argument from their perspective showing that even from the point of view that they're trying to present to the world all they're doing is trying to justify why they have waged this new phase of war against everton and you say they started it are you saying armenian soldiers or members of the armenian community none of them for the 1st shot you say
that i mean years not shelled gunja the town that we saw pictures of where they were which shows destruction what i am saying is that on the 27th of september when these new phase of the war started. stephanie get in that hard to abort a car it's not on the line of country came under massive shelling bombs precipitate arscott and i get already more than 10 days and obviously the defense army of no where in a car up needs to keep the defense entered text is a 1000000000 population of. entity response in symmetry to today's attack moreover you know there have been numerous reports and leaders of countries have come forward justifying that azerbaijan has completely changed the nature of. my engagement foreign terrorists with the help of troops and our own
end this fight is no no matter that old you know we're in a car buckle because that we used to know he's the defense army and never in a crowd are fighting against international terrorism you know that of course britain supported the rebels ehe in syria to overthrow assad in syria but be that as it may the azerbaijani about to said why would they need syrian rebels who might not even be able to speak the same language they have enough troops to defend azerbaijan without using troops that were helping britain overthrow president assad in syria. of course it's a big question why has your by jam has sold out its sovereignty to turkey and now it's to bring its own agenda at whatever retesting to drink anything neighborhoods in the media east to export that stories of dynamics to our beaches of course as
a writer has to answer that question what was its interest why did it mess up. with its own population equal absolute foreign terrorist fighters you know if that peace can have long term consequences for their own internal dynamics well they say they are there may be foreign contractors guarding energy infrastructure but then or taking al qaeda and isis to outer syria to fight against your country i want to clear something up as imagines the president's office tweeted armenia has fired at the backward to billy's e j and pipeline and correspondent obviously we can independently verify a lot of things that are going on specially what the attack you refer to a moment ago our correspondent question how israeli cluster munitions used by azerbaijan normally could have been used by armenia what do you make of this pipeline incident 300 cluster bomb that as a johns presidents is accusing your country of using that sonali in intent
to draw either countries became ssion to the fact that the energy resources that are being exported from azerbaijan are under threat from armenia we are smarter than that you know not to try to get the energy infrastructures knowing the consequences that this will happen besides the fact that it's. a crime and i think that maybe leads to a humanitarian crises and at your previous point you're absolutely right the rest of ringback the areas are giving interviews saying that they have been lied to as to what why they have come to that's or by just saying they thought they're coming to protect a certain. we structure our pool and were thrown into the into the fighting and this is again something that azerbaijan should respond to why it's. important it is going to fight terrorist almost like journalists that are reporting from the ground and he has closed down also ocean e.d.f.
and the coverage of the conflict from its territory but these foreign fighters themselves are speaking up about the violence that it may have been engaged in azerbaijan say they're not allowing journalists to monitor events because it's for their own safety britain is the biggest foreign investor in azerbaijan what would you say to britain and other nato members. as regards their fellow partner turkey being involved in this conflict well of course it should be of concern of all of the international community as a whole all nato countries because we see it also the military means of turkey being used in the military exercises that happened in august of this war at least there i get a continuation 'd because tricky didn't remove its personality and its military equipment from the territory of ice or it stayed there and is being used all the
personnel the. commandments and also the arms are being used against peaceful population of nebraska car and wheat since day one of this new stage of war we have a call to the international community and shit that this is no longer only about her in a car or in the army of people this is about the larger region and if we allow the south caucasus to be corrupt theater international terrorists it's not going to stop there it's going to expand around to beat but you know i think any i see from your side perhaps a defensive retaliation against turkish troops stationed in as i'm a john you don't see the britain we. duty bound perhaps under article 5 of the nato treaty to respond by protecting turkey against armenia protecting turkey against our being am 90000000 population nato member needs protection from a 3000000 neighboring nation i think that already is
a response to to your question never necrotic sense aren't true to its name will defend its about syrian population but it is not an aggressor and what that world needs to do is to contain the violence that has been m.p.h. against these people rather than worry about the heart safety is iran supporting you they've had to evacuate civilians from their border with kenya and azerbaijan well of course iran is following the situation in our region very carefully and our colleagues. or any in government have come forward with statements saying that it is unacceptable that any other. attacks should also affect their territory and their borders and they should be more adamant about these i think at this point in time there is no longer
a question about who started as a senate the beginning of this interview every single statement i actually have is a testimony a confession of my own he's war is quote unquote just you know it all you fired the 1st shot and you surely can understand that i mean according to the u.n. security council resolutions 822-8538 some for a date for even watching the president's interviews the president azerbaijan's interviews they were all endorsed by russia and china the whole of karabakh is in as a major. i'm telling you crystal clear us in 10 or 27 we woke up to a shock if the line of contact and the hard hit number in a car after being attacked by halves are better there is no doubt about this further resolutions that are often scientists by military entity computer ship press or by jet they come from 1903 when the 1st network
a car bomb war was over and they had no mention of the republic of ireland yet. as regards to launching attacks on azerbaijan all they're doing is calling for the republic of crimea to use into the next with the armenians of karma to stabilize the situation there and following these resolutions after 993 the nowhere near karbala leadership the army and the entire ship and yes or by telling leadership and signed a cease fire agreement and who launched the oystein least group could cherish the peace process so everything that has happened before that was a situation a response to the 1st never in a car of war and a negotiation process drew a line to get in with the ceasefire to address the underlying causes of the conflict and come up with a solution do you agree with your prime minister they call passion and then that
this is a fight to the death and what does that actually mean as a right to an entity can just tolerate a democracy in their neighborhood you know make them babbage revolution in iran you know we put our country on a path of a true democracy and this shows big contests to be very sick so they have what wage this war also during 2 trips to try to anything. that the new point democracy affirming and yes it is vital for our existence otherwise to do you wouldn't have dared to come to the south caucasus again. a 100 years nature given the context of the our little general strike at helping the 90000 it would keep its hands out of the south caucasus knowing that there is the genocide in its own past to be addressed so why has it come to the south caucasus again well president lee have his declared turkey must be part of any future talks i'm just finally and
briefly going to ask you a rewrite the direction bastard london on the show is people around the world probably know about. from kim kardashian who has been tweeting in support of armenia what about reports that she has close ties to jared kushner what are you hearing from the united states administration about what side the u.s. is going to take in this battle when it's exactly because of the genocide of 950 and i mean yes are spread all over the entire globe and of course there are many prominent armenians citizens of marion you know homeland and they feel so i didn't see really their people and their historic comments i can't comment on either party to represent alex and their connections and the u.s. administration all i can do is welcome the efforts of these people even i mean you are not an armenian around the world that come up with their solidarity and express
their support or for a peaceful resolution of america about you and thank you thank you after the break who's in charge in kyrgyzstan after an old election apparent mass protests and an assault on the country's parliament we ask you your stance current ambassador to the united kingdom want to political forces his president is alleging are behind the chaos dollars or more coming i'm about to i'm going underground. the lockdown has shifted away people relationship with their bosses and their companies and how do you account for costs. down to the granularity of toilet paper and the only industry i know where toilet paper costs are incorporated in the p.
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and just in case you're worried about who's going to pay for it mexico will pay for . it we'll see what happens. i always say we. will see how the bill will be a success. welcome back in paul when we spoke to remember. about the violence in the granite karabakh that some see as the opening of another front in the new cold war just weeks after u.n. secretary general and joining to stress that the world faces a. 1945 moment but i mean as my john aren't the only former soviet union countries currently facing up evil in kyrgyzstan this week a parliamentary election has been unveiled the parliament building has been stormed in violent protests and the prime minister has resigned all in the wake of accusations of vote rigging and vote buying the president. because of has accused political forces of trying to illegally seized power so what political forces
e referring to that because ambassador dillon the needle by some of who joins me now ambassador thanks so much for going in there in the studio some people may know that kyrgyzstan is one of the most beautiful countries in central asia now they're seeing pictures of violence on the streets of the capital bishkek what are the political forces behind the revolution this week well you know we've had some up here also over the last years and this is the continuation of the story of the curtis people the freedom loving people of when we celebrate the corage of our use the character of our people who are once again said that they will not accept that as adults of that aid elections that will result in in some sort of. privatization of the state what we had in on sunday during the parliamentary elections was they are temped of a coup d'etat you know using taking advantage of power to our people especially
during the heart of the year one not torrijos persons they decided that they could bribe their vote by a massive massive unseen level of massive vote buying and as a result they could have purchased the whole state the whole parliament for the next you know decade or 2 saws they thought but it was their whole political class and supported by the people who are always up and said they will not allow it and then the situation developed when. because. you know everyone felt the same and you may be surprised at me as an ambassador there i haven't thought i was going to say the support of the girl in the french ambassador to britain when we show pictures and details though yelp or the u.s. ambassador to london does not speak up for blackmail mabus is popularly supported this is and it is not against the current government or the president or who are
running this elections it was a ganz those forces with right to steal the elections from their people and we are going to be and it is you need to see it and the stand in the context of the whole recent history of kyrgyzstan we had the you know our 1st of all this of just $1005.00 friends and events of just $1010.00 so this is the launch of a continuation of the continued he says that it the nation building process of our people so why is the international media saying so. was sprung on the jail has become the new prime minister of turkey with the board of resigned who could only if you know you said he won the election as it as it happens usually during this type of. stories but i had to take to tweet that of course to call on the international media to 'd stop assigning all official status to all
reports of this type of news that my mating from my capital because we have the sitting the current parliament you know we have the continuing fox functioning parliament we have the can do you know they said this in the hotel yes the sense other than yours that's why they don't go to the bar and that's why you wouldn't report on the new hotel meeting over a fraction of a number of members of parliament as anything official you know you need the decorum he needs a quorum he needs a procedure it's the due process that's why. we have we are not. done with findings their new. prime minister read that we're that transitional government yes they're all government has resigned by they are continuing to act in our capacity but we are looking and it probably can take days or it can take weeks but this is how democracy looks like this is where the process of the political process where where there are various sites there's
a very active civil society there is this youth in the streets who are demanding are absolutely new faces there are this you know various political parties and we want to reassure you that we will find. a compromise as a way of out of it and we will in ensure that there is peace and order there and then when we have this conditions we will have the new parliamentary elections because the sensitivity here is that it could be a color revolution we've seen what's happening in the we saw haven't enjoyed her all that time ago people very conscious this could be a color revolutions are nato is backing one side or the other i mean do you trust a sudden jump or all of it was he was indeed convicted of violent hostage taking his sentence meant that he wouldn't be released from prison till 2027 and then in the media it's like he's become prime minister in iran out of years ago talked
about the that we need to 'd take or all of this news is a grain of salt to put it mildly no there are this legitimate forces that are very much a blend you know what's the current you know because the former there are statesman and we have the active civil society and we have the support of the whole international community is that we've seen statements from all our friends who is we the people there. the prime minister who is a lot of elected yes is not on the in for healing delineations you need to do we need to just because there is no new prime minister yet but it's definitely not a color to loosen you know where and when you know as a supposed western wall mendelson seen is that i'd stand and trying to change the foreign affairs the politics of our country and all we are where we are in central
asia and we have a very good relations is all our important factor in our neighbors in our we we neighbor china in all ways i was the digic partner we are allies in the. 'd collective security at the door we are members of the eurasian economic union this is nothing of you are still relations with syria with belarus with venezuela suddenly changing tack and suddenly none other than they were the european union is and is not then why give us your your and this is probably going to be my job to say this is that has nothing to do its foreign politics. international involvement this is currently internal affairs of our country and we will emerge from it we will emerge and remain on the same course we've been russia's them aces safe russia because this is
a safe we are counting on the russian government to act as their star belies in force they will have to acknowledge they are all in all it's very important we as a most important trading partner and politically we have a huge diaspora in russia so as a position we'll be very important then i make no mistake this is this has nothing to do with any international politics this is purely a domestic quarrel which is going to be results on because the us used. to fight in afghanistan although doldrum his reach. as is reducing the numbers are still good relations with the united states as well well you know or 'd the united states and the you know european union the organization for security cooperation in europe actually i can point you to the fact that the us embassy was the 1st to congratulate the people of kurdistan and the government is that's why everyone became suspicious successful elections so that's why this one again and as it was
there said that this has nothing to do with any. forces this is purely. a matter of politics and i would like to point you to the fact that we are one country that has been sceptic fight our elections as free and fair as the previous several cycles we have state of the art electronic system biometric data so the usual falsification when ballots starting or you know this multiple voting or just outright falsification of the protocols they do not work they do not work and that's why the all new way to somehow influence the outcome of elections is their vote buying and unfortunately we cannot do much about it but we never expected that one force called be using you know several dozen millions of dollars and just purchase out that vote of the people that's the problematic technically
you know the international observers did not find anything wrong with the elections itself we spoke to the foreign secretary tony grab here because there are rumors that the united kingdom not only wants a trade deal with kyrgyzstan it also wants to somehow have influence in central asia by using kyrgyzstan. no i have not spoken with the state's a group of it but we are in touch with the foreign office and is our colleagues in her majesty's government but i do not think that the united kingdom will be having this idea that they can act as a mediator because they wouldn't draw a lot of sick on the security council. in this important. place in the international community but. once again what like to repeat that this is purely there are no affairs and we would like respectfully request all sides to
have passions it is us and wait out for the people of pakistan will solve this issues i mean maybe there are conspiracy theorists but on paper you know you took a loan 120900000 from the i.m.f. in mud and then here we see unrest there's new connection between kyrgyzstan's reliance on money from the washington consensus that you got in march and all these events there's nothing on those not in the people on the street there is nothing of that sort there's nothing to do is that you know we have some external debt but again find it ridiculous to believe that somehow can stand as a caucus the police not able to be paisa you know we have it under control our economy is also experiencing as any economy around the world to be experiencing a huge and this is that that pressure this has some in director all the economic
situation as a set the the people who are older workers as i call him the virus the there. and then next iteration it has to be said kyrgyzstan is not like an emerging economy that just does whatever the big multinational mining companies do you don't think that it is the exercising of sovereignty that is creating suspicion. in nato countries that they have to they have to exert an influence over this key country in central asia the whole world as it is today you know who has all this things happening around the world in particularly in a few a key country it's they have enough arms on their plate not to worry about what's going on in my country and this was completely unexpected just the international community and we do not see we do not see any international involvement in the events unfolding in kyrgyzstan so what to the next they'll be the election
we will somehow make it fair this time yes really real c. and we will be passion. seek the national compromise we will put everybody the around the table and the radio of course negotiations are taking place we are talking to each other everyone is interested in peace and order and no one is will be taking some moral upside that you knew at that all decisions we will be seeking national compromise we will install the new interim government which will be led by a cat is an attic political leader who enjoys the support of the people of kurdistan and will be credible on the international stage and then it will it will probably take time a few months june stall peace and order to ensure that there are conditions for democratic elections sometime this winter and master thank you thank you for having me.