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the the with the hello and welcome to cross stock are all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle, the prudent biking summit. his coming gone, but bodies real message on his european tour with the galvanized washington's allies into some kind of anti china alliance. did he succeed? also the january 6, right, the f b i and the arc of history me
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to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he is the podcast or at the goggle, which can be found on youtube rumble and locals. and here in moscow were joined by dmitri bobbitt. she is a political analyst and editor at me, internet media project, or a gentleman cross, capitals, in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. okay, that's good to start off with being my here in moscow as well and team and you and i and george discussed the content of what we were going to do on this program yesterday. and you sent me an email with some comments and you said we should title this program, china. europe's unwanted enemy. why did you suggest that that was very interesting . go ahead. well, it's absolutely clear that the european country, yes, especially germany, which has a huge economic dice, you know, to china and east european countries away. absolutely. do not want to have
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a confrontation with china. these countries are not interested in the anti chinese, around 3 and more days, the chinese actions, which are basically forced on them by washington. i mean, some of these countries don't have to be persuaded to be anti russian. i think it was a huge mistake. you know, when the russian foreign policy for many years states that somehow dominated dates is more hostile to russia than the european union. there are some controversy in eastern europe, which are certainly more at russia than the united states. but they don't want to fight china. and when, at the last, the recent need to a meeting sharing, that was the fact to declare that anymore. let me quote that china stated the bishop surgery behavior present. systemic jen and just are the rules based international, all the errors relevant to natal security and of course in nato language. that
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means chinese a name because cool presents david karen just and also it's a big lie because in what way can china throughout the nato? i mean military military in nature as many times stronger than china and chinese located in the completely different part of the world. and china, during the last, at least 40 years, charlie did more than baydar the congress. he did not take any territory under his control. he did not do more critize, a new foreign nation. it was not involved in nation building and steal, you know, chinese viewed us, hostile by the, not the states. and certainly reminded me of the situation that we saw during world war 2. well, now to germany. awful allies in europe, such as equally as such as congress. i've just been them. they were not interested
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in outside your would you and then establishing german hold all the fields. wanted to take that was, i was really, there is next to the they didn't want to take plenty of crap, you know, barely and wanted to have some part of greek territory and they wanted to cut you slot a site, but they didn't want to die. well, the whole purpose for them, i mean germans for the beans to participate in the seed or any group. and germans forced to die so that when you, when you surrender, hostile ideology, every medical you, what would you, they got a lot more than they bargained for rules based order. we just read that quote, george, i wonder who wrote that and some rules based ordered tour. ok, that would be one of the things i wanted to do this george, because i think it's very, very interesting. number one, joe biden to spread. america is back, but well, not everybody wants even with it within the, your a p and union within nato. once,
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once, america, back the way it was before and see what's happening in the way i look at it as, as huge cleavage is big and very small now, but it's going to grow and grow and grow because the us is the master of nato undoubted. okay? what they want, they get ok. european union is different. ok, you can, you can have this threat. inflation is imaginary threat. we have to spend all this money because of the russian threat. but when it comes to e nomics to hear a little bit more hard headed and sober. ok. and just as demon pointed out, i mean, why are we completing these all things together? and then china is the the obvious, then it's not obvious whatsoever. go ahead. george, right, no, i think there are many issues. there's without question. what will the issue that nato is continually looking for a new role. so it would be one step because, you know, thinking about what, what's the next,
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the rent that we can justify continued existence. but the communicate that was issued, the other day was still basic focused on russia, russia, i mean, the car dropped off the barrel about all the terrible things russians done, all the terrible press of russia, russia's cheating, russia, violating this and so on. so yes, china is mention, but that comes down to like paragraph, $55.00 or something. and the language is much more circumspect. you know? yes, giant, a challenge really have to look up on it. but then the china is cooperating really generally with russia. that's it. that's the point, george, don't you think? i mean it because nature is essentially just a propaganda operation. ok. and so it slowly, but surely there be overkill window all over again. getting essentially what they want to do. what way china with russia are they want to see them is inseparable.
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that's right. actually, the more they do that no more russia guy will come together with these people don't seem to have any near sighted understanding. go ahead. i said it's very, it's very much like these 2 powers of threats to the rules based order. and they even mentioned like, well, china is a challenging the values based washington treaty, the treaty that set up so so there is a, now there's a question. the united states sees china as a major geopolitical rival. it's an emerging, you cannot make giant. and the united states really doesn't like it because they feel the china will become the economic or financial power in the world in the, in the coming decades. that will be the end of the all us role in the well system. so yes, no question. i mean, this happens already on the obama. 4 much worse on the trunk. you know, the united states wants to pitch the hostility towards china. but the europeans,
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they are essentially a regional power. they're all regionals. they don't think, globally, any, yeah. russia, they can think about as it was his be there. and of course, as deemed pointed out, i mean those, all of those states that are absolutely rabidly anti russian in the baltic states and poland. so they can't really get wrap their heads around china. i mean, china is nowhere near europe. and so it's very hard for them to go along with this, even though the united states question is trying to push them in this direction. you know, again, if we make the job position to the cold war, there was virtually no trade between the west and the soviet union. i mean, it was one of the conditions here and, but there's no cold war. we can use that term that washington wants to push the european store visa be china. well, they, china is be use biggest trading partner. ok. and again, we can go about, you know,
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a breads that are bad and all that. but trade is not a bad, very, very real. ok. and europe isn't trying to pull itself out of this. pandemic need tray and china was very much good. they can have it both ways. the same. what, why do you have to have it both ways to save that? meaning, is it completely impractical? well, washington keep fame. we will make russia pay the price, you know, that was their slogan for many years. now it looks like 1st they made the you pay the price because it wasn't the stage to impose sanctions on russia and for whom the sanctions were really, really painful. it was the eel, which has, which is the biggest trading part. no, russia who more billions, you know, at least bankcard billions, but most on the, on the end rush and sanctions in the 1st year, you know, and later there were more and more voices. so then you will pay the price and
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what's china that price is going to be several times car with russia. but, you know, it's, it's a lesson you have to learn from history, when you would join an aggressive extremist by george. and unfortunately, the people, i don't know, the people don't. brandon, they have an extreme mistake at the moment when you go with them, you'll lose your prepare for huge osis. poland, obviously one night the stage to help them rush. and besides that, that was their idea. they wanted to be strong, you know, with the united states because of, okay, the states is behind them and they're not in the states is now canceling. they are plus, you believe what serious deals with china. that's what is happening, you know, and with greece, it's even more, i guess, because greece is bay very much the with chinese can on. they sold them several of
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their ports, you know, in greece. so in did, it's going to be painful. and the problem is, this is the price or i don't. and also this is the price of life. i mean, look at way american liberal press, got it. you know, i almost woman and washington post max boot by the why this miracle fujen space, by them knew how to deal with the kremlin strong when he did it much better than trump was simply that call it. i mean, the whole idea of present in by the median as some kind of a boxing match in which joe has to stand up to the left, you know, that's so stupid desk. okay, so that was the, the main people, the media in the last 2 weeks. i mean, john, i didn't, i didn't realize it, max boot rights for the babylon. b or the onion because i read the article. thank you. daemon presenting to me. it's completely satirical. i mean,
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if you didn't know better, you'd say this is a joke, right? yeah. well, i think the people like boot laid problem on their hands and they spent the last. 1 5 years, making these claims that trump is a trade, the trump is selling out. the country trump is working in trump is trees in the any, any jessica by from toward russia. even even what he's imposing sanctions were what he's picking out. diplomats is really secretly applaud by the throw us off the same so that they've been battling this by did now they have, by the man, you know, they rejoice the something to be or is there any being friendly as the russians than truckload? double back and come up with some convoluted nonsense as to why it's ok when biden
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does it, but it's terrible when in front of it. so in the last 25. thank you, george. if trumpet had the same exact summit with he would be a traitor. by having the way his experience is a noble democratic diplomatic leader. if it's direct boot, this actually show the incredible bias and how dangerous that bias is when it comes to the american foreign policy. it's, it's all about their perceptions and the echo lima, their ideology. i gentlemen, i'm gonna jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break book, in the discussion and some real stay research, you're going to finish that. are you going to finish news hope other than the remain russell? while i go over the the, the book that just sort of the
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motion learning and that was in the course procure, mrs. to just love rosa i position. we think he might be a soldier because of the boot she's wearing your twitched up took a personal opinion was on this, you're still summarizing, please. ah, when i would show the wrong one, i'll just don't rule out the thing
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because the after an engagement equals the trail, when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground in the me the welcome to cross type where all things are considered peter lavelle trim and you were discussing some real news and this is the home edition. the alright, let's go back to georgia in budapest, georgia because it slowly but surely being revealed as we approached the january 6
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trials, i mean, hundreds of people potentially are going to go on trial here. and it's being revealed that a lot of there is a lot of unnamed co conspirators and well people are wondering, hire their names, reacted, and is it because they had contact with the authorities of the f b i specifically. and that is very, very troubling. but what's even more troubling, is that the legacy liberal, liberal media points of bank? are you saying? well, you must be a conspiracy conspiracy. there is for asking those questions. the media won't ask those questions. we're left to ask those questions. go ahead, george. yeah, it's very interesting because what has happened this week is a southern sea change in the story of the events of january, the thing. and it reminds me of what happened some point in 2017, with the trump russia story when debbie nunez suddenly disclose that
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the f b. i. so valence warren of cause or page, was based entirely on the steel dos. the a missile, the shocking disclosure and of course, the legacy media and all the pundits and all the x f b. i is the absolute nonsense from garrett. this is not how the f b i operates, does not the operate. this is total total utter nonsense. then we got the inspector general report and pretty much confirmed everything that devin noon. there's something similar happened this week with this story in revolving news and then call them to get out and then significantly blend, greenwald up. and it's now really very serious question, which is there are that there are always people mention in the indictments, uninvited co conspirators. and then mysterious person, one person to person 3 group for some reason. even even though,
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according to the charging sheets, they played a very active role in the events of genuine. for some reason, i haven't been invited. so therefore the next question is raised. to what extent did the f b i know what was going to happen, who you are mostly or her extent was the f b i itself actively involved in instigating those events in driving those that actually causing that arrive to take place where the people actually were there on washington on that they didn't want this riot story and of course as you say, the legacy media is gone haywire. how can you get these people have a fair trial if they cannot say well, so you can say is name person a ok. how? but that, that's my, that's my alibi, that's my rooms. this is the contact i had the no, no, no, the state says you cannot rebuild it. that is a kangaroo demon the,
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the thing that is, so i think, you know, because so much has happened over the last few years, isn't it people, again, prior to trump going down the us later, we could buy that is a benchmark as a depressed had and lee, a pretense of an advert adversarial relationship when the intelligence community with the yeah, with the cia that's hard to today, they are covering up for them every step of the way that you can not interrogate the people in power. it is a terrifying and for people thinking about it because i mean, i have monitors at work. i see what i'm seeing in, in, in, but some you saying there are, i mean, all january thinks i mean in their building up to something here. and it looks like there is a major, a cover up, we need to learn more. but i mean, this is very, very distracted by the media is just merely the mouthpiece for the people that they were in are technically professionally supposed to keep an eye on go ahead dimmer.
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well, that's why i call president obama that was president in us history. you know, it was under his watch and, you know, formally he was a democrat, you know, almost just president, it was on the watch that f, b, i and some special services started to be directly involved in elections and, and they were questions about elections and about their agent who is the patients, it became clear that these people are there as well when i think which is important here in our president, would you mention the january c? storage is press conference and i know that some people on the left in the united states took it back. we've had some criticism from peter coasting, for example. i think, well, when you mentioned it, he was not the right to stand or that have to stand just it's a feeling of many people in rush. i remember 1993. you know, that was the last,
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have been something like january 6 happened in russia. and of course, we do it very badly when we saw this man, you know, a lot of the security people who just showed that the woman who was not, you know, was no threat. and it was probably misbehaving, but he called bar in full blood, just shot her dad. and there was this video and now people gauge and 1520 years, even though they did not current any one and the almost are not involved in violence . that's why you, when russia taken it, but it has nothing to do with the russians being pro republican or democrat, you know they, they don't think that way. ok, been george. i mean, actually, babbitt, i mean, you know when that what, there's 14000 hours of footage and they were told of seen snippets of
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it. some of it from what i have seen counter contradicts the narrative that the liberal of legacy medias betraying of what happened there. but it seems the end plus the prosecutors need a lot of extra time. okay. it seems to me that either, you know, they have a blockbuster case or they have no case at all. okay. and they're trying to create one because we never find out how actually babbitt died then this whole thing is borrowed from beginning to end. yeah, yeah. it really is and now you mentioned that the 14000 hours of footage, we couldn't even the defense counsel on behalf of the $480.00 dependence and not getting access to the sportage. and we can be pretty sure that, you know, given the politicization of the d o, j, that if this footage was really damaging to the, the riot as we would have been seeing a lot more of this, not at the moment,
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the things that we do see people pass around on twitter, youtube, or whatever. as you say, they go against the narrative, we get strange characters, bellowing outside, so mechanical, sol, mechanical, and they are being told by the writers themselves. you know, he's in the book, he's, he's, he's f b i, he's an instigator, why of annapolis and why the bus was saying like, after, why ever you been? and then you've got again the questions like what am i believe is elise, why so premises groups like the proud boys and the oath keepers of the 3 percent of the ones that christabel ray and the other is always going on about how come none of the leaders says has been indicted over this, i mean they supposed to have taken part in those events. so i haven't been backwards raising all of the suspicions. and then we've got the ashley babbitt, which is we're not even finding out who the person was,
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who shot that. and why did he do it? from what i mean from what people have been saying. they know who the officer in the name has been mentioned on the, on the internet. so be my, this, this goes to a bigger, broader point because in the way that the narrative of january 6th is being presented like pearl harbor 911. if there isn't ball disclosure, there isn't full transparency there, there will be parallel narrative that will live for a very, very long time. that can not be reckoned side. ok, and this is my biggest worry, and i think the, it's the media is driving. it is driving it all steam ahead because it is still litigating and judging the trump presidency with a trump resides in their brain and there's nothing they can do about it. we, we thought with the recent some as well. and you know,
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so when the man leave the stage is taken off of bob balls, he's still the most powerful boston american brother building. it's incredible. go ahead. well, 1st i would like to remind our viewers that the one that they want when it's happened. we said on this program that of course, these attack against the will not be justified. it was a crime, it was inexcusable. what these people did, the other problem, the other question is the reaction, all the state and the so old investigation and how all of these turned into and you rice, dog fi and sickly, you know, right there fire. if you remember, no one now even find it. now, if it was that dutch goldman, yes indeed would needed, or if he claimed, or maybe it was most likely provocation or the not just what happened played was much worse than the what happened during that, that event, you know, what happened play that was basically a more boys asian or follow by one party,
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and we suddenly have 19 percent of us media strongly declined by the and not expressions of us over very significant part of them very often. and the end, the service call sequence is the fact that on part of american states, and it was not russia who did it. i mean, you know, away bidding b r, i could be george laughing, but you know, they're outside horses and all this is going to be, you know, it's going to be a drama. they needed to be a drama. they, it's actually, and we look at, look at rush gaijin in corral than the progressives. ok to keep the democratic coalition together, they will do where they get their branding, another narrative to corral their get bring elements of their coalition to keep them cohesive. ok. as jo ain't doing such a great job at the end of the day. go ahead short one minute before we finish. no
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question. there's going to be midterm elections next year. at the moment it looks like, you know, we'll look at the bathrooms in history. the democrats will suffer losses. we can be absolutely certain that it will be a russia alone. that would be blame for any democratic losses. i mean, it's just, it's, it's automatic. and that's and booty said this during is news conference ways that well, are you optimistic is? i mean it's very hard to predict the dynamics of american politics. so we really have no idea how what by this week will be interpreted and reinterpret that within american system. so yeah, there's no question though, the russian involvement will play a role. but if we do find out that the f b i itself was actively in boring story. let's move on. my not know gentlemen and one of my get some good. it has and hearing loss, i want to think our viewers,
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the watching us here are. remember, the me, i the always be polite, never engage with an aggravated or confrontational office. don't get into any conversation to start answering questions. just ask for an attorney to survive and interrogation, you've gotta be ready to stand your ground. definitely don't want to be going to trial in the jump suit. one cups. you're more likely to walk
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free. if you're rich and guilty, you are. if you're poor, you got 2 eyes and 2 ears and one mouth. so you should be seen in here and a whole lot more than you're saying. if you don't take that advice, usually going to dig yourself before me. ah ah, i use
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