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ah ah hello and welcome to cross. were all things considered? i'm about liberals today show their face. the mask is off and what do we see? the new mccarthyism. they are proud of their liberalism and tucker carlson. and his journey in coverage of hungry or about the liberal establishment will probably never recover the to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, george m u l e. in budapest, he's a podcast, or at the gaggle which can be found on you too,
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and locals. and here in moscow were joined by dmitri bobby. he was a political analyst and editor in a me, internet, media project or a gentleman, cross talk rules and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. okay, let's go to the new and improved version of denise re bobbitt. you're welcome to the program and i should tell everybody for this format, contact that my 2 guests in this case to be in georgia. and i inquire with they would like to talk about and deem you sent me an article about the new mccarthyism . why did you send that to me? what caught your eye, and do you think we really are in arab new? go ahead. i think the main reason is that there's very radical polarized in statement that we had last week from president biden, who actually used a very aggressive us when given gold medals to their lease officers who unfortunately let the you know, they so just the so called in so it us into the capitol hill. so these people were
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given gold medals, even though they obviously failed to prevent something very bad from company. but the, just the, you know, the, the kind of language that by the use you know, m mobile, which cream is sent paris to launch the violent and dead less hold on the people's house. and the say good reach out to 35 free and in the action that the more as me, unfortunately, that doesn't remind me of the, or the way democratic leader was. that reminds me of that mad dogs of imperialism. you know, in molly's china or the boot leeker solving to national capital capital is 5 if you know that we heard from the start and why use such path us, you know, and i think this article about the new mccarthyism, it makes a very good point in the spectator, this article was already sent the spectator that the liberal
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a 3. so i'm not making any effort to understand why did people vote for donald trump and why there were so many protests that we didn't get the answer from these people. it was just that they are bad people, terrace, georgia. i'm glad to be brought up with president biden to say about the events january. correct me if i'm wrong, george. i thought there was a select committee going on in congress, defined, become to some conclusions. i thought there were other investigations to come to conclusion where the president of the united states already has a conclusion. how that out very good point. yes. there's be the select committee. there's also been other committees that have been investigating and events of genuine state. and of course, there are $560.00 people who have been charged with the events of january, the 6th of these trial, ongoing and a likely to last month and months. if not years after direct,
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but nobody was up to read the list. mccarthyism started, of course, before the by the ministration. it started at the time donald trump was inaugurated as president. that mccarthyism was pretty explicitly like the old mac up, which is it accused from the people around from a b ages of the kremlin. that was it was, that's ages of the granite and it was worse even than the old because these are because at least the old mccarthyism had a kernel of truth because there were some people working in the u. s. government who are agents of the gremlins such as the hybrids extra white and zone. so, but this was complete from a completely made up story that trump was an agent of the remnant. and he was poor cynically, to suggest that the, the man was elected president was actually a tool of the crime in the kremlin of stolen an election. i mean,
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so the demons ation has been a continuing strain issue. and now instead of calling these people, agents of the grand lynn, they are now terrorists, so people who are a terrorist and they list it so you bring up a good point demon. i mean, i think one of the most important indications of this new mccarthyism is the total abuse of language. you know, domestic terrorist back seem deny or so you know, everybody is categorized. ok, and it's, it's really a purity test. all of the time. you know, there were, there were some official that said that anyone that could, this is over the last few days, any official that criticizes found, she should be repercussions for that. i mean, we've gone so far so fast where descent is criminalized it's being criminalized. and it's, and we're not looking at
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a very small group of people, we're looking at half the country, half the country is being accused and labeled and designated, and no quite listened. that brings like this. i mean this, these are extraordinary measures. and it's all because how they want us to use language. what happened on january is that we really don't know because we don't have the facts. that apparently was an insurrection. you get my point. absolutely. and the 1st way to make it clear that we are on the show, we're not against vaccines. we don't know how to. absolutely. we do not support trumps people deed on january the 6th. the methods used against these probably, you know, probably a wrong wrong minded people. i just, you know, i don't want to get more christian. i mean, this article, this dictate the author lists this example that you just mentioned. you know,
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making the criticize in south anthony fall of federal crime. no less. if you criticize dr. voucher, your criminal well, but also, you know, there shouldn't be the narrow gifts that appear in american society today. and that's the most disturbing phenomenon. i mean the article in the washington board, by the meal back. it says, history has been written by victors. we should not allow losers to write history. we have these, me full g dana milbank rights of all the events of january 16th on the table de terrorist took up arms against the united states. seeking to see the u. s. government, in a deadly rampage. well, i mean this, this is beyond the pale and the, the problem is, i think george was very right when he cited mccarthyism and the anti russian roots
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of mccarthyism. now, i think it was very well appointed by by the frank in his article in the law, diplomatic. now it's the specialist, the least in europe, who i actually cheer leading, you know, these new mccarthyism. here is what it says, mr. frank, curiously, you know, one group of experts who emerged the leaders of the tyria, where experts on eastern europe, where authoritarianism has a long history and russian, the farrier, the areas. this is a known quantity. i mean, these people create and panic criteria. you know, the. busy the book by an apple ball was headline twilight to you, more christian. where do she told you, margaret? except in the actions of the corporations and the liberal coming area, which are an apple really, this is, this is the objectives about the article by tom snyder. the book by thompson or the own period where dusty sees tyranny but you know,
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except for his own and the people think like you exactly in georgia, the name of this program is liberal liberalism. and this is really what we have come down to. i mean, it's these liberals that constantly mount the words, democracy in diversity and all that, but they are actually for and not for any of them. they're actually for submit and in criminal eyes just then it's as simple as app. george, it is a simple as the and we've seen facebook, twitter, google, the most powerful corporations of the world. they can pretty much control all the flow. busy of information on the world working hand in glove with government, particularly with the democratic body in order to crush political this then and cross their opponents. so it's not just donald trump and the people who donald trump supposed to be kicked off the platform so that they don't get a voice. it's also people who have their own views on vaccines.
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robert f. kennedy junior. he, he felt that they were trumps of all that he's been thrown off know me, will kicked off. you know, we have the wrong, the wrong views on the back seat. you're out. you know, the most most well known public intellectuals, if you agree or disagree with her, i mean my household name if you be books. ok. but what is interesting to me is that when they talk about democracy in truth and all these other highfalutin things, is that it's all those things only for people that are worthy of it. if you're not worthy of it, then you don't deserve it. this is their message, and this is why i said repeatedly on this program, this is the new service. okay? you know, you can have all of these things if your worthy and we will determine if your worthy yes or no. yes, exactly. so democracy means that the right people are elected,
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if the right people another less than it was played in all the democracy. and therefore, we have to either re run these elections over and over again until we get the right people, or just simply the gate and say, that's what we're, this really wasn't the democracy at all. this was the dictatorship that was stolen by jim or whatever. that's what you know you get. you have to have, you know, a democracy means electing the right people. it's a permanent rule by a permanent believe that that's what they mean by the liberalism. yes, but the demon when you're just saying, if i put it in a rephrase it, which i completely agree with them, is that the elite must survive it and they will find that means for their own self preservation because that's what this is all about. if you're in the, in group, you're in the status quo that is prosper, particularly during this great this year. you know, you get a want to maintain that. and so these, these trivial things, these what know,
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things like democracy and voter id, you know, that gets in the way of us maintaining our power because we are worthy of this power. who, who did, who did really determined that their secular, god, i don't know where they truly believe it demon. well, it's true and also look how, you know, the liberal gloss is trying to consolidate himself. i mean, timothy snyder, when he wrote his book on tyranny, it was actually an appeal that feel our self. i could feel that we have to defend our interests or not links. we have 2 different read them and all those things. and the, this is really dangerous and in the line or the article by thomas frank is us liberals. all the trump. ok, you know, maybe people in some time will forget trump and they will forget the control surround him. what will remain and what is really dangerous is the vision of
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certain narrative. i mean the appeal by dana milbank and he is the article on the washington post, you know, in which the praise of the polarized and statement from a president biden on, you know, journey 6 people being old terrorists and white supremacists, you know, doesn't mean been crites not low, what was the right after that hard break? we'll continue our discussion on some real new, stay with archie. ah, the british and american government sivilton being accused of destroying lives in their own interest. while you see in this, these techniques is the state devising message to end essentially just joy personality of an individual by scientific means. this is how one doctor's theories were allegedly used in psychological warfare against prisoners deemed
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a danger to the state. that was the foundation for the method of psychological interrogation, psychological torture, disseminated within the us intelligence community, and worldwide among allies for the next 30 years. and how the victim say they still live with the consequences today. the self governance is more is further and further away from the day to day reality of people on planet earth, in particular, america, with its claim to have a government bind for the people. but if the fed is now completely controlled by wall street banks and the said is not completely controlled by the map, which is a super national organization that serve the global as the recall. then the idea of self sovereignty in america takes another huge quantum leap of some version
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the, the, the, the, the welcome back to chrome, stuff where all things are considered. i'm peter liberal. this is the home edition to remind you were discussing some real news. ah, ah or a gentleman, let's change gears. georgia, a very famous television personality from the united states. the most popular cable host, tucker carlson was in the city where you reside right now. and he met someone that the west revivals which to take 2 aspects. so 1st of all, the interview between the victim abandoned tucker. carlson is actually fascinating and everybody should watch it or about an article is
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a very cogent intelligence view. all of national relatives of. busy saying, well, nations have a right to determine their own destiny in the light of their own interest, and there are light of their own culture traditions and so on and say, look, you know, we do not get to do what others order us to do. we didn't do what the, you know, we didn't want to do what the soviets order us to do. we don't want to do what the brussels wanted us to do. so i don't want that. i was which, which was very interesting. even more interesting was the hysterical reaction in the united space to this interview. it was a foam and a big, i mean we have somebody like massy glazed is kind of a leading neo liberal. think it was just speaking them about hungry. you know, i, this is, this is a rubbish. she stupid little country. yeah. it has some pretty building. i think
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you said rinky think somebody will building but absolutely useless that everything else, you know, very poor doesn't, doesn't do anything anyone, any hungarian was actually worth anything. goes abroad to do it probably in the united states. it's a very hands on the russia is nothing except oil and nuclear weapons. but the truth is that or bon, the reason why they are so great, it is tiny countries, just 10000000 people of it is that he is presenting animal tonnage vision to go to the global is the idea that, well, you know, there are no people. there's just, you know, they're just terminals, you know, anyone anyway, and just so you know, tune and you know, the long rome and therefore we don't need any nations that's everyone's just simply a terminal to be manipulated. well, historically and nations has been the most resistant to all sorts of global is
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dreams. i mean, by the soviets. well, it was then the nazi whatever. that's why when oregon articulates that this is a nation on national destiny. they know this is a found of resistance and it's a disease that might spread to other nations. george, i'm going to stay with you. i watch the interview. i think that really what makes a lot of liberal sweat, particularly in the media, is that i came across as a very articulate, come straight forward. ok speaks english well. have a thick accent, but he's not the monster that he's been, make it out to, unless he's really putting on an act here, quick reaction to bad try is extremely articulate. again, compare that with any america or english conservative, you know, get drug and bars. johnson's watch, the vision, you know, you have nothing. i mean, you would just be blocked or, and cliches. with any, you know,
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got some american senate, you know, tried to articulate a vision of what you want. you keep saying you're a conservative. what do you understand by that? and i remember what i believe is tax. so i mean, yeah, to a picture later, a conservative vision. i mean, and, and he did it, you know, very effectively. the interview is very, very interesting is george said it's very straightforward. these are, these are one of the things that are bama talking about it's, it's almost impossible really to disagree with. ok. but then if i, the ology is put, put on the alter purse beneath, you can't listen to it because it is again scripture. you can't listen to anything counter to what our ideology says. that's why they take him so much and in they hate the fact that, you know, he's been in power. what for 12 years when he won 2010, but i think it's been, i think bob, 15 of the last 19 years there's been here's the country of tell 10000000 people
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that supported a conservative agenda and he's a threat hungry. it's a threat really go ahead. well, 1st of all, i think we should explain to all of us, not all of them. we know it. if you read the european press on the press control by the you countries, or if you read the american main impress, poland, and hungary, our country is all wide by dictators. you know, these are terrible dictatorships in central europe are the only good thing about families. the poland is very, russian hunter is extremely bad because it's not even anti russian table. people are in power. they are the subject they influence and the judge of their suppression. the press, the only thing that the mainstream prayer doesn't mention is one pro european part . yes, we are in poland. poland. what form of what they suppress pressed in the same way as the party that trolls now probably probably leaders. so the same thing with
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hungary before orbit was in power when jude chinese, the social for empowerment they treated pressing the same way as orb and us. and what made the liberals mad them tonight, the state was there, oregon was allowed to speak in full. usually, you know, actually organize. i think 1st came to part about 30 years ago since he came to power. i don't remember except maybe in the beginning of the 9, just when western press will let him speak. he was always just cold. oh, nice quote that you know the same thing with lot of my food and why were the american john is so angry about his press conference after the meeting with them. he spoke to the reporters and call them carpet. you know, if you want, you could watch the whole conversation and see, i mean portion was so much more effective with them by, than it was important to deny it. and that was calling because they are never in
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queue for they have never put you in the gate in the old and, you know, i feel re, terry, and congress are unable to change their leaders and they get more and more detached from reality. in reality, the liberty of them more and more detached from reality and in america, we now have an american variable, the revenues, you know, i mean, they never point out that are about when selections here. george, george, you're in budapest. now, i lived in eastern europe in the 1980s. i lived in poland. i visited hungry. they were, they were run by a party dictatorship. so. okay. so you're in, you're in budapest right now. so you know everyone's waiting with baited breath. george, are you living in a dictatorship? bigger police is just outside the door, but everything is fine. though, of course, that was larry or there is a press. i mean, oh, you know, or by this criticise, it's the notion that somehow people are terrified of criticizing or,
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but it's just simply isn't true. and it's very funny that on the one hand, you know, or mine is a dictator that you don't tell it's erin saw go whatever it wasn't biting cold in the same time. yea, election next year, or bob might be beaten. well, how do you like bravo, if this is a fascist dictatorship or you know or by might be defeated in the next election. i mean, they say the same thing about boot coping style in there and dictates a yay! the last in these elections in moscow, i mean, you know, the over the was goes, it is not a dictatorship. no one who's afraid of the express use. if you live in brought up. most people here hated. i mean, the local, as, as with most metropolitan citizen in the world, liver tend to be very liberal, and everyone is free, free to speak is mine and they are, they are all pretty much against orbit and hoping that he loses next year. it's not
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the typical of the rest of the contract, but this characterization is, of course, nonsense. i think going back to demons why. what was also extraordinary? is that due to was fielding questions from american journalists? biden wasn't feeling questions from any russian. john of the orange and who controls the narrative. so thing with norma was interviewed by the b b. c. when he was going to london recently, and of course the previous year report the throughout the usual, when did you stop beating your wife questions? you know, hey, what about the, your anti semitism? what about the dictatorship? that's the stuff, but nonetheless, or bon politely, answer these questions. so it's a, it's very, very different from the treatment that you know, the biden,
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the head of the greatest democracy in the world. i guess, you know, what went brussels is afraid of and they, they just can't and confident is that some a leader not long standing now can be re elected repeatedly, having conservative views that are at odds with the ideology coming out of brussels is cannot stand. that's big because, you know, because then for them that's not demarc somehow democracy isn't working if you get that results, okay, which is what it basically a liberal thing to think. ok. and so they have a problem not only with the, the ideology and beliefs a bit about his electric, but they have a problem with democracy itself. i would say go ahead with george. just said that in a way, right way characterize their democracy. democracy is the right press when elections, if possible, honestly, if not possible, not very want to say, but we must have the right people in our idea logically right people, this is not them, maybe talking,
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she's not the best managers. look at the show up on the ryan in the european commission, not, not the most professional. no, just the ones who are, i guess logically your. they allowed america to be when several elections. why? because she was a logically bure. when the trunk won't be election that in the united states have your salon or, you know, the former, the secretary general of nato said if trump will not be the lead on the western world, medical america will be the lead on the west shows you that these these i told y'all to liberalism, it's not pro american, it's not pro bridges, it's actually international just in a bad sense. you know, if you follow guys move into the night, the states, then our guys will staying power in germany and they will run the wall. but you know, i think george, you very rightly know that this contradiction how come he is a dictator, but he may, was in the election. well,
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it's not the 1st contradiction that we hear from this. people told frank and his article on people want to put it very rightly, you know, the democrats call to a trump a freshman, and then they voted for the biggest military budgets in american history. like dropping the lead to give you weapons. what makes the, you know, given more money than it's never been resolved. what it is, this is a, this is a about a, an ideology that's in crisis. before we go around, out of time, i have a public service announcement to make cross stock is going on vacation for a month. ok. we're going to be away for 4 weeks. so i'm going to announce my vacation right here right here. and now ok, or i don't want to thank my guests in budapest and here in moscow when i think our viewers for watching a few pc next time for the ah,
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ah, i think it's part of mental health revolution. we increasingly freeze political claims. the language of mental health became more common. so if you disagree with something i said on this program, you know, just say i just agree with you. i think you're wrong because of the following problems in your adventure logic. you say your micro grass mate, you say you triggered me. you said you harmed me again some psychological way because those are psychological terms. and i guess an enormous problem for politics because it's almost impossible to have a discourse on that terrain. the
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other stuff. and then you need to talk to someone who can be done by the women i've met when i'm in a position where you may need questions for me. i don't want to just about what i was looking for the day to me, but it was easy. i got to get how do you think you put up with me going to be as long as it doesn't work for me that is that quote that we should the the
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