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the join me every thursday on the alex salmon show when i was speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport business, i'm show business. i'll see you then me the i am now convinced that as many as 10 civilians, including up the 7 children, were tragically killed in that strike. it was a mistake. and i offer my sincere apology at copious general admit to drive striking car last month killed 10 civilians including 7 children, leaving human rights were playing oceans and only own tough because of increased global crucially. the price has the support of the rest, ensuring the january 6 rise held in washington. there is been peaceful, despondency is talk top and the media about potential bonded and
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rational continue to cause their ballots in the countries election. they deem of russia. the we're will bring you the latest on the air and on line from the day here on, on st. national. those are the headlines of next on asi is going underground. ah ah, ah no mention redundancy. we're going underground. digging of the narratives, the circled main street media to want you to hear coming up in the show while the
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eyes of the world are on the middle east. we investigate another country, destroyed by nature intervention, libya and ask the man who was mor, morgan, api's, information minister. it will take another good for you to lift the you can bomb country as of chaos. and on julian independence day, we speak to the man behind the arrest of chillies. late the liberal dictator goes to finish. and the only presidential advice who survived the ca, back military attacks nominated palace, pays the way for the liberalism all around the world from petra, britain, to russia. all the more coming up in today's going underground. but 1st, while major government warn us defeated f canister while supporting the occupation of syria, what about libya before you k bombing africa's richest per capita country coming up to 10 years since the nature back to killing of mama daffy? could his son say father's love be the answer. joining me now is mom. i get out these former information minister moose abraham. thank you so much. moose of are coming back on the show. i go to ask, 1st of all, why are in cairo and other people in cairo after all, there's
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a half general half to form a ca asset that the meeting with president cc the i think that the libyan speaker as well as other he says that it's all happening in egypt, it seems why you that i am here to coordinate our political work with my libby and colleagues. we believe as always, that the solution for the libyan problems should be conducted an executed by the libyan people themselves. cairo in egypt is a neighboring capital. egypt is a very important country to us, and we have a major libyan community here. and now the different political leaders of libya are coming to discuss the libyan situation. we are here to be present to be active and to remind the world that the majority in libya has been silenced by nato, as bombed by natives intervention and by natives agents. and we need to listen to
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the people not to the political elite or to the foreign powers. so did you, me, general, after and in general, have going to run in december's elections and is safe. i'll get going to run in december's elections as he promised from geneva back in 2018. well say for get duffy has a very clear and packed or your check. if i may say project, he announced that he talked about the talked about at the very frankly to the libyan people. his project is a project of national dialogue and reconciliation. he's a known political figure in the country. he is supported by most of the libyan tribes. that is why the west is terrified for the presence of ken duffy, the the recent developments we all had,
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what the assistant secretary of state of the u. s. said that they would refuse to deal with any libya headed by different as long as if the destiny and future of libya should be decided by washington. an estate of the very people in the country. as for general half the libyan political figures, they have their own authoritarian dreams and they try to arrange their moves and their politic and maneuvers with foreign power is because they came to libya and the very 1st place with the aid of foreign powers. i think i believe all the safe and it is the one who stands tall on the shoulders of libya and people themselves, not on bombs and rockets and military bases foreign, military bases. yes, there are rumors that have to are,
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is sending troops to the chad to border. i think you're referring to us is instant acting. assistant secretary said joe hood, he said the whole world has a problem which they've love good candidacy for the elections. whoever runs it's a matter for the libyan people to decide, but you didn't answer the question. is he keeping his promise to run for the presidency in december or not just does he just want dialogue and conversations? i think it is, and he is agenda to run for the elections. but the question of, when is this still debatable? the december elections are only a 100 days away and there are many logistical problems. and the intervention, the continuous intervention of foreign power is especially of the west are making the situation and libby a very hard to deal with and very hard to move forward. because every for him
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power wants to guarantee that its own agents in the country when they had they have positions of power and in the next elections. and that's actually what we say no to. we want the libyan people. we want the libyan cities, libyan villages, they be, and tribes to sit down and decide their own future. we don't want the british or the americans or the french, or the techs to decide the future of libya. the, the sad thing is only for us is speaking, this language, the other political figures are working very closely with foreign powers. and that obeying their orders. and instead of listening to their own people, we saw the british and the united states. back to killing of say, fall is good, f is father. we saw hillary clinton smiling and applauding the pictures. when
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the mamma gadhafi was killed, can save fall as i'm do a deal with half for protection. because there are those who think that nato countries may want save all his lum daffy dead to what safe and slam is trying to say, even to foreign powers. that he does not present any threat to them. and the way they think, oh sir, for this lamb is calling for, for libya to be for libyans, for libby and oil to be for libyans. and for all libyans to sit down and find a genuine emotional, political, and economic solution for the disaster. that has been the nato intervention, olivia in 2011, even when speaking about his father, the mark tom lama duffy. he invokes his name not for revenge,
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but for a sign of peace for a sign of reconciliation because if save himself who lost his brothers and his father and the position he had in libya at that time, he speaks of peace. he speaks of libyan unity, and this should be good news to the good people of europe and america. unfortunately, of course, we know that europe and america are controlled by a very aggressive and greedy economic system that does not necessarily look for peace. a system that looks for oil, it looks for money, it looks for robbing as a nation's wealth. and therefore war for them. for this foreign power is good news because peace means that nations are able to control their own destiny, their own wealth. and therefore, these nations were not to provide the capitalist system with the means of survival
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that it leads. i'm not sure if you're safe, all good is spokes person? is he aware of the difference is that the un security council over the un mandate is safe gadhafi more supportive of moscow and bay james position than london, washington and paris? well, i think i will leave this for safe and a slam to express himself when he thinks that time is right. but i know for sure that libyans understand that the british, especially on the americans, are trying to play with the details of the mandate. the un mandate libya so they can guarantee their libyan agents more power for the next few years. we support the russian position, simply because russia is saying that more power should be put in the hands of libyans. this is not about standing with russia politically. we are supporting the
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logical position that gives power to the libyans. if the british se, let's give power back to the libyans, we would support the british position. unfortunately, the british are now trying to tweak the mandate to play with it. so the, you and the united nations mission and tripoli would have ultimate power and deciding who speaks in libya, who shares the power, libya who is allowed to go for the elections in libya, and who has the military power and libya, the russians are saying, no. the libyan people should decide that we know the games, the west to play. the west plays the same games in libya and iraq and afghanistan, and venezuela and syria. so this is like late in the, in the, in the game. we're not at the beginning. we have got all the lessons and when we
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will not allow, we will not allow the british or the americans to deceive our people again. but we're a 100 days, as you say, from the election. safer still has not properly announced. he is running while hafta form, as he says, is rumored to be backed by russia and france and he says he will contest the december elections. well, the regulations for the elections have not been put into place completely yet. so there is a legal side that needs to be settled. and syphilis lab has many teams working on the ground and really be in the city, coordinating his efforts to be present in the libyan political scene. but i assure you action civil slam is not thinking of the chair of the president, so to speak. he is really more concerned with helping libyan tribes libby and
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cities to have a genuine dialogue between them and to push forward for a political solution to the libyan crisis. he does believe of course, that him as a national leader has a place and the future of libya. but the timing is a question to be decided later depending on many circumstances, national and international. however, as i said, it is working very hard with thousands of political figures around the country to help advance the cause of libyan liberation. liberation from foreign power is what people forget is that the libyan crisis is not a libyan libby and problem. it's a libyan against foreign power is problem. if france and every power withdraw from libya, politically and in terms of the military libyans will be able to solve their own
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problems by themselves. well, there's a turkish frigate off the coast of libya, pictures today on social media. michelle. more from more good asking for information ministry to this break. plus we speak to the only political adviser of southern, again, they're just of the nature nation back $911.00. to that would bring afraid chicago school economics all around the world. ah ah, the hey, you know we've moved on from just printing lots of money and incurring lots of dad for dom reasons to printing loss of money and incurring loss of debt for
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extraordinarily dom reason the welcome back. i'm still with mom. i get asking for more information minister was abraham. i have to ask you is the reason i say fall in love and good daffy is not doing this interview much as we like to interview you. because he is a us, or nato drones strike to kill him. well sir, for the slam was a great and brave fighter in 2011. he's not afraid as southern. why doesn't he? he is why he's new is the reason he doesn't do interviews because of the international criminal court. they won him as a one. so many people of color in africa because if it's not knows what the international especially weston main 3 media can do with anything.
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he says they will turn the whole thing, not about libya, but about him personally. he does not want to be like the issue. he wants libya to be the issue. that's why he wants people on the international community to judge his actions. not just his words, everything stephan islam is doing is in the interests of the people. it does not think of any authoritarian agenda. doesn't think of any agency to foreign powers, as it is the case with half the political figures, if it presents a problem to the west, because he is simply trying to liberate the country from the military presence of foreign powers. remember, the united nations itself said officially that there are 5
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military bases in libya, 5 foreign military base in libya, and $1000.00 foreign fighters in the country. this is a country and a few patients i despise how the main stream media talks about the libyan problem. they never mention that libya is an occupied country, libya isn't occupied country and the libyan people need to fight to liberate their country before thinking about elections. but if you can settlements and all of the rest, well just finally, how can the libyan people trust safe? i'll get daffy. he was a friend of. i don't know, tony blair here in london. he was fated here in london, a great friend of neoliberalism. why should, why should the libyan people trust someone closely associated with new liberalism, multinational corporations as he has he changed and become more of a socialist?
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i've seen you can never did use safe, and he's thinking his personality, his history to just ballistic relations with tony blair. or with new liberals, 7 islam was very close to many african leaders. he was very close to our leaders. he had, he visited many countries around the world. he tried to establish peace between libya and the west. but even now he gave an interview to the new york times, not going underground. i believe, because he wanted to send particular messages to particular foreign powers and sent our power in the west. this is, you know, down to him. he's a man of his own. he has his own philosophy, but of she is loved by the vast majority of the people he's respected by even those who had differences with him in the past. because they saw what he
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did and 2011 they. so how he still speaks of libya with love, how he wants to find genuine solutions to the country's problems. and they see how he refuses to be controlled by foreign powers. something that no other i repeat, no, as a political figure, olivia has done so. so it is, i think, safe it is the future of libya, not as a person, not just because he is the son of god, duffy, but i think of what he represents politically and intellectually and morally to morse. libyans must abraham, thank you. thank you. action the well today just days after the 20 year anniversary of 911 and new york is independence day for a country that mourns and other small,
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devastating 911. the ca planned $911.00 cool, $973.00, which spread neoliberalism to all parts of the world. after the death of socialist president of chile salvatore, i end the only political adviser to i in there who survived. the qu is human rights law. doctor one, god says the man behind the london, the rest of the u. k. back to peter who took his place august to finish k. he drives me now from spain, capital madrid. one thanks so much for coming on the show. as i said, you were, i end is advisor. today is chiles independence day. why do you believe people are not even mentioning the qu against i n day on the b, b, c, or on c, and then for the 20 year anniversary, week of 911. when of course, it was september, the 11th 1973. the way you're going back to new york in 2001. the big me now
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for info. most of the people that was before before the new york, i was in one of the games in there that were the news for the never know if we got the chicago style economics even here in britain after the qu, just remind us what, salvador, i and said to you 48 years ago, when on september 70071973, there was many 30 or action against the government of chile and money and default during 4 hours. again, this is the ration in the last minute before the bottom and he asked me to leave us because i work he's closest on license. and he saw that, they explained what was the study policies that they will be washing
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preventing. and this brain that met and then all the people and these trying to, he's shown that the human eye i knew a protest is on the street to santiago. what, what did you make of the fact that she lay in court said they and they killed himself. he was not killed by the ca backed qu clauses. he took the body, dick, this teacher can fight. i think we should, he's more the guards and what he has done with the last bullet, i don't know what he decided to die. it's time. well, we're just a few weeks away from of course the next election. but when penetrate came to power, we got privatization. in chile, of course,
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tens of thousands killed or disappeared. but you have spoken of how henry kissinger pioneered extradition rendition, flight torture, that we have seen after the other 9112001. tell me how kissinger and nixon pioneered this hybrid warfare after they killed effectively your friend and your president international body. she's the way decided like you seem pretty guy who push nissan. we're not respectful of international, not at all. and he was completely in the kind of way coming into the machine. and for me, we find it why know how we clients, why don't they be kissinger wars generis?
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and i know that the chief of the get out of me, that was burger was he to the 970 the buying a new. and then the son of the firm generally should i didn't find a claim against the u. s. court. on the 10th of september, to thompson, one day before the effects you're on for is in this claim, not to go ahead because what happens after the fact when you're washing it from the, from the us government in vain. other countries and to dimension on yourself or, and the human rights concerning the fight. and in this context, no card in the stage, we're ready to hear the claims from the time. so i started off to be what an
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extraordinary coincidence we, we invite henry kissinger on. i've tried to, i've spoken to him actually. he but he hasn't said yes to this program. not sure if you've seen the new australian papers in the past few days released showing how the liberal prime minister then the foreign minister building mac amman, australia is secret service in santiago, once failed to see a against your press would be close to ration. but also we can find this go pretty cc in it from, from even from countries western europe. and that way, by the united states, in order to interfere with the internal political process in chillik. and this was about beyond that capitalism, privatization,
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we know that there are papers detailing pepsi cola i t t, david rockefeller's business group for latin america. they were all involved. but the kennedys were interested in a n d, even before robert kennedy and jack in them. the fact that the work for the fraction of that, you know, them aggressive was the outcome of the perceived in charlotte in 68 and in 72, where nixon defeated their democratic candidate. so they got the humphrey and george barker had those it to be a negative for me, they will not be going to be because the queen was by the chief over there, mac wrapped in those. or, you know,
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they were against any interference. the respect to the and the fact that after that they should be on the mac. i think the us in a, in frank frank charge. nathan commission investigated the introduction unit and disclose what the saw, the now the most competent friendship information about this time. and the common nation again, that you know, well, of course, kennedy kennedy was then was killed before, but in the era, the current leader of chile came to london. on the eve of the 911 anniversary, boris johnson invited him to downing street. do you think that you think that he's going to remain president you have elections in november? the 21st. and if gabriel boring wins in chile,
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will it just be another who if he tries to nationalize resources? no. i know if he sold it, he will not die if he will not try. not sure in mining mines of copper and this is nothing that boat i'm a mortgage take on the children out of me not to day was 7. leave that i mean the game against my ceiling. i think that they were seeing me following that. just finally, i know you've been campaigning for restitution for the victims, tens of thousands of victims because of the british american back denisha government. and both as our guys on you worked with the new franco. what did you make of the un in the past few days, saying they condemned the actions against about this goes on. he's also,
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julian assigned his lawyer. what, what have you made about the dirty tricks against one of the most famous human rights judges in the world? spain, if the only country in europe, when the time's gonna meet the new in this by the war and the sheep that need to be 19661975. absolutely. i'm punish. and the 1st judge that to open all of these are feasts, maybe use all those. greg's as we saw him, but he was punished by the supreme court because of that. and not only he or spanish emissions or hearing that came from being guard was in the future. no judge should investigate. and the issue and any crime that was going to meet that again, this binds republican army games is banished people, frankly,
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she and that's not a good one. got us. thank you. thank you. that's it for the show will be back on monday, 20 years of the day, george w bush officially declared the so called war on terror. paving the way for us defeat enough canis down until then. you can get touch social media, let us know how you think penance change, chicago school economics change the world. ah, what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy foundation, let it be an arms race is often very dramatic. development only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very political time. time to sit down and talk.

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