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tv   Cross Talk  RT  September 27, 2021 3:30pm-4:01pm EDT

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i hello and welcome to cross top, where all things are considered on peter about. many countries in the western world are grappling with such issues as illegal immigration and energy insecurity. and remarkably, there is always a single root cause, a party to blame. and that is russia also. iran stepped out on the world stage in a big way ending its isolation. me, me to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, markers about the ductless in london is a historian, analyst and author of the book arrives. we'll see a return of russia, 2 world politics and fewer in moscow were joined by dmitri bob. she is
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a political analyst and editor. it interests me. internet media project, or gentleman cross up role and effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. let's start out with marcus mac. let me read you a few headlines here from cnbc, ukraine. now, now they've got accuses rush of using gas as the geo political weapon. as energy crisis deepens, very ominous. there. this is from the scotsman gas price prices with russia. vladimir putin in control of the bow importing supplies was always high risk. and we go over to bloomberg here, nor stream to pipeline news. ukraine worries less about gas war about war. again, this whole story with energy insecurity in europe, which i believe there is because there was a massive cut in, in demand during the height of the pandemic. and then when things started returning, there was a higher demand. so there wasn't as much gas being put into storage then we winter
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coming up. absolutely nothing to do with the rush. but so ever but all of entered your energy both or somehow brushes when they were when the united states was against, nor dream to that would actually increase the amount of natural gas. and to be your opinion, what is new world is going on here? well, peter, i will start the survey historical actually said, namely that relations between the west and russia over many centuries have been characterized by the mutual suspicion and loop. and what distinguishes relations between the west and russia now, is that today western allegations against russia are absolutely farcical. so 1st of all, western mainstream major is giving coverage and credence to polish claims. the migration crisis, plague in europe is as a result of russia and bennett,
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russia, sending the migrants into year through poland. well, since when has poland been the entry point into europe for refugees, all circle refugees and immigrants? the truth of the matter is that the west, the stabilization of no fact for the mid to waste, specifically libya and syria is what has caused the migration crisis. then we have british government claims. i'm british mainstream major claims that the energy crisis lumina over britain, is as a result of the kremlin. well, britain, it should not have relies, to the extent it's on liquefied natural gas. and instead of hurling use and all full accusations against russia, the british governments should have put politics aside and should have sat down
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with the russians and should have come to an agreement like the german government states, specifically on referring to new stream. so, because unlike for britain, germany now enjoys an uninterrupted flow of natural gas from russia, that is good german industry, that is goods for german domestic households. i should say, peter, that is imperative. german industry and german domestic households, if the british states could truly cares, freights citizens. and i said they would have put politics aside. and it would have insure an uninterrupted flow of russian natural gas, which would have been imperative for the british economy and imperative. british domestic households, but instead an energy crisis is lumen, but naturally has nothing to do with the british states. no, it can only be the fault. of course, the, based from the east, russia did hammer. this was the base of baths. in reality is that the north stream
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to was something that the germans wanted something that, but the russians didn't from both america, they could be more specific gas from. and so now we have the b eventually ality in the matter of weeks, if the regular breeze or resolve that would be an abundance of natural gas in, in the european union that all the way to a different story. but i mean, of the politicizing this year when it's purely an economic commercial issue here. i've always been mystified by, you know, where with bottom control of the bow. well, it's gas brown wants to make money by selling its product. there is customers that will have a demand for that product. i don't understand why this has to be over. what advises marcus is pointed out, go ahead. well, i mean, the whole energy crisis in europe can be resolved in one day or no, that's in one hour. if they just see by going to read just not strong enough steam
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to tomorrow or i'm going to register in december, they set a date next hour. the prices will go down because the markets, you know, the markets are reactant to. i'm so the future, i mean they don't know what a still know seem to. they still don't. no. and the problem is not ethnic when there's no, it's idea logical. i mean there are germans. some germans of polls north seem to, you know, to leave, you know, the green party. they read the on the left. the other than a variable on the list said i want the job steward ross, you know, in the budgets. i don't want this to be ever, ever used technically at north seem to is ray, do you know the golf pro announced that was ready to start bumping the gaze on the 1st of october. so the problem is no technical if, if i go to google and i will partially agree with what mark said about the russia
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west relations all him. but logan is mostly on the west side. on the russian side. maybe there will some bullshit, early decades on the service union because we wanted to make you optional. now, at least, you know, you know, you're in all my years and i haven't lived in russia all my life few years. i've never, i've never called the kid just sadness dives. well, i mean, after what happened the limping game, but you will not see them. you could no show the flag. he was the most blank, optimistic people say, look, this is not to be, you know, this is really get out of camp because his job, yes. but the general russian culture and easy european country and one so much to be where the europe. but all the problem is that europe sound was just roles map and talking about the migration program, the market. so just mentioned basically there were rumors,
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the blue question go would use migrant back in the late ninety's. i mean, i read the border so i, i asked my readers to they read the frost magazine, read the news from the early to thousands late night just they have been suspected shinkel try to do that. you know, she didn't do that, but they suspected him and 20 years later, something like that happened. but went off to europe and boast unprecedented sanctions on billers against the industry against the enterprise. extract him and bella was so, i mean, what do you expect the problem is that the, the west right now, the government and the media, the us, they use the creek that not to sexually use very often. they mix 40 to some morals . like if you want to dig the sanctions or beller, bella, russia,
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because that's basically bill, which is a translation that was wide russia into bill language. so if you, if you say i'm against the sanctions imposed, you're in a moral person. you're not suggesting a political solution, you are a traitor. you're in cahoots with lucas angle. this is the same way, the not just, if you oppose people's corporate dollar, just major political statement. journal opposing, shoot, what you are you laurel, you know, you don't know. the interesting thing is lisa, but when look at them and bought them and they met and they were asking him, i'm directing this tomorrow because they were asking me about the immigration policy. and he said, well, why don't you ask? it has nothing to do with right there whatsoever, but in the, in the mainstream it is somehow, russia has been good with lucas, to release immigrants into the european union. which by the way, you know, colon in the baltic states, thinking about barriers and wall,
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i guess those barriers and walls are ok, but not at the american southern border. but i digress. go ahead. well, i think pizza banner, russia is under the spotlight now in the west because the west attempted to embellish basha last summer failed and it was always going to fail and fail abysmally. and as a result of that failure, the integration process between moscow and mints has received it as received a much needed emphasis just so much so that the re unification of russia. russia is very much something that is going to happen sooner rather than later. so the west is fine to stop. that's why are they trying to stop that? because, of course, bella, russia bowed as on to poland and nice. so is a poland. ne, so is beef and up its presence in poland, which i said that is
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a flagrant violation. of the russia, russia found an act of $997.00. but in regard to the foster co allocations, the west is making against russia. it's very clear that the west has never felt so emboldened before in that it makes allegations which have no substance to it whatsoever. and we have to ask the question, why do they feel so emboldened and i put it to the race? and it's best that people in america and in britain no longer think independently or critically. they simply have this intrinsic, this absolute trust in what their politicians and journalists tell them. but also the average american, like the average britain, is more interested in their television programs. and celebrity culture and reality television, they no longer care what's happening in that society. let alone can what's
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happening in the why the wealth. so when the british major gives credence to polish claims that russia, bella, russia, are responsible or could be responsible for the migration crisis and gulf in your average british person, the average american person would be happy to go along with that. it's a sad, depressing state of affairs d member last 45 seconds for this part of the program. again, the ukraine is playing a role in this year. the, the, the fact i'm agreeing with mark is here. the reason why nor stream one and 2 were built because ukraine was deemed as an unreliable transit partner and, and so that they're built. oh, okay. and now they're complaining about ukraine's energy and security. when you crane itself is responsible for that insecurity go ahead. deem both or you know, the west to us bill or was and it's leader question will be gruel. look at the figures and the facts. how much more gruel the ukrainian then you ukrainian
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government. i mean, it's not just using trying chance against the demonstrate this infusion plain, some tax, you know, the store the country and talking about the history of the gas by point built by point to where we're going to go to a new words and some real estate with our the the the lack of universal healthcare makes america the country of every man for himself . we have a retirement crisis in this country and we have a health care crisis for seniors in this country as well. so private business has come up with special mechanism for that. it's called the life settlement market. we are a life settlement provider, which means that we buy life insurance policies from primarily seniors throughout
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the united states who no longer want or cant afford their life insurance policies. if you are sick and for want to live a few more years, you can sell your life insurance. that way you get more money right away and the company collects your insurance pay went off to your desk. there's a group of people out there, i guess, hoping that people die soon. what kind of motivation is i give them when i start crying about them dying? that's usually what it's about. it's just the sheer unfairness of it all. the news
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so much happening in paris. max and stacy are taking it all in geo politics. gone for zurich, australia, friend the u. k. all battling it out in what appears to be a new york ah, to cross topler. all things considered peter la bell. this is the home edition demand you were discussing some real names. i
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okay, let's go back to the mac. went to the break to me. you want to make a point that we talk about iran and it's diplomatic initiatives. you go ahead, just the thing is when the, when they're under pressure for all the west rush to build a pipeline to pull up, you know, through in the late ninety's the school young, you're young, europe and the russian suggestion was to connect this pipeline to the ukrainians, and the both refused for geopolitical reasons. they said this can be used against ukraine. so this why that's why russia had to build this huge pipeline, the baltic sea. i mean, why the world would be spend so much money. but because of all, and i would say very intransigent and very absurd position. and just to remind our, our, our us how we donate the stage of all the approach of how can the invite states impose sanctions on something between russia and germany. what will happen in
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russia and both sanctions on the pipeline between mexico and the states. okay. other than doing that, imagine what a scandal would be, or business, except in the western society, just something normal that the country that has nothing to do with this pipeline is imposing sanctions threatens and, and other kind of say, all that, all present never. it's never frame that way. demon. thank you for pointing that up . or i want to switch gears here. the shanghai cooperation organization around finally, after many years of petitioning, i become a member of that or organization. why is that important? markets go ahead? well, i should say, 1st of all, peter, my opinion on america and i kind of stone runs country. so many analysts and journalists are saying, because i do not believe that america last african stone. indeed, i believe that both america, britain have retains that influence and i'm going to stop by having come to an informal agreement with the taliban because the taliban were never defeated
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militarily by america and britain. and secondly, it was just inconceivable at the telephone, telephone on their own could have conquered afghanistan, countries so large, so the fine different regions simply on their own notes, the american military gave the go ahead and also as well. american doesn't have to have soldiers in the country as a control country. it can control a country for control in this country's economy, but turn into the shanghai cooperation organization. this is what it is. first go ahead is saying high cooperation organization is a ration alliance, including countries such as russia, china, central asia, and now iran. and it focuses on issues for security to economics. so politics and it's a very good alliance because it means that all of the countries involved on
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now, members of the shanghai cooperation organization and iran, and i haven't been as mrs. so the alliance demonstrates how iran's influence not just the spot in the wind, the world is growing and i consider it wrong. it makes sense to be very good, especially for the security of that region. yes, it will be good for trays, but i believe that there is, of course, a very serious islamist terrorists presence, growing not just in central asia, but also in the went in the chinese region are seeing shame. and i believe that iran as a result of its tremendous experience in fighting against terrorism. after all, it was a wrong that prevented the cancerous tentacles of the taliban from extend them into the waste. we'll be able now to share some information with countries in d. c. o,
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such as russia and china, which will be imperative semen and the fates in miss terrorism. and islamists, is the msm in general, in central ation states. but of course, the americans, who, as i said, remain very much in africa. miss dawn will view iran submitted admittance to the seo with increasing consternation because on the one hand it shows that surrounds influence is growing. secondly, the shanghai corporation organization has grown to such an extent now that the americans are exceedingly wary. and the concern by its mark has brought it up when he missed the binding, the, the shanghai cooperation organization. you know, people in the west, my li, stupidly making some kind of comparison with nato, which is, it's not ok because what the, the security element may be there. definitely got counterterrorism. yes, definitely there. but there is the commercial economic element that is key to the
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functioning of this organization. and this is why this is such a wind ball ran because they're breaking out the isolation, the maximum pressure warning that the us is a bite against the rain waiting economy. so this is a very significant move and is organization covers the arrays in land, mass, bass. ok and, and this is a certainly a counter to the hedge. a monic aims us as for the ration land, go ahead. well, i will that to what mark just right. you said that there are some car cooperation. elation was found. the $997.00 on china's initiative allow it not only and coach iran if it goes in the park to stop. so basically when we're told by the western media, there is so much contradiction between china. i just found the age each other somehow. well the state of the west is not and will be can be members of the same
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organization. and i challenge all of yours just woke at all. there is a notion statement from their shanghai corporation organization from our collective security organization csu. you will never find anything that guard against a particular country. every state mil starts with their preamble that su is not directed against any particular country in the world. you know, this is very different from april. you're right. comparisons with need to make no sense because natal open recalls russia. you remember how hillary clinton a clinton called gosh, i hostile nation. and we all remember how nature even statement talked about adverse re, you know, china send in your reference and almost an 80 minutes. so this is basically, this is what, this is what is making as your so different from, from need to. it's a peaceful nation, not directed against
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a particular country. and why does it make the state of the west so angry because it shows that you and d, d inside the same are going to zation despite differences, cultural, political differences. and the idea is to justify bite, and he's still insist on having this democracy is versus of better theory and stayed funded before the end of the year. i thought it would be possible after again a barcode because just me to remind you that again, for many years was the most important major l i outside the organization. you remember and look what happened to it. and the coming back to what we were talking about in the 1st part of the program. if we accept this idea or by them that there are you markers just and chris just right. then the why i people believe supposed be democratic iraq, symposium, a critic, libya. why are they lead to equally pro v bit and to beller,
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bella russia from iraq, you for up to? so you my credit, why are the change in it for the authoritarian bill? it was, so there are so when you think that just don't add up in the western in the world. so is there a page from your book? i mean, when you put everything into an ideological lens, that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. and that's exactly what these people do more because this is something that iran is really push for for very, very hard. i think they had observers status starting in 2005 if i'm not mistaken. so this is a wind ball for them. and it shows that the, the american lead campaign crusade, if i can use that word against the, ran a show slowly, but surely a roading coming apart here. the country is very much self sufficient in many ways because of the sanctions. and now the massive. he cannot make deal made with china that we're the next quarter century and this is a new page for ram. it seems to me,
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they've made it through the worst year at least as far as the american policy against the ram. and i think as you pointed out, the region is going to be far more safer because there is real terrorism there. and having these and these kinds all of these countries feel it. okay. and it's the common enemy. so in, i think instead of cobbling and protecting isis and the 31 flavors of g hon. these countries, michelle, corporation organization are actually serious and biting it. go ahead. markets woke up iran for over 42 years now has withstood tara with respected by raj, of sanctions placed on it by america. and yet it wrong not only has withstood the cause, but iran has grown stronger and stronger. and its recent admission to the s c o demonstrates that iran is more than just a regional player now. and it also goes to show how,
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how close iran's relations, political, economic, and military relations with both russia and china, all because of course, moscow and beijing off the de facto lasers of the a. c o, that's indisputable. iran has a very close relationship with china, hence why pacing was more than happy for iran to be admitted. but even more important than that's, iran has a strategic partnership with the russian federation. that's on its own has changed, the dynamics has changed the dimensions of the made the waste because no longer is iran face in america on its own, like it for the during the 19 eighties and during the 1990s. so of course, the kremlin was very happy to see its strategic partner in the message to the s c r and the americans and the british who are very much in afghanistan. and of course,
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the taliban will continue to do the bidding on behalf of their western patrons to feel fractions because it's just russia and china and iran, as dmitri directly said, india package on our members of the church. so the americans can't help feeling somewhat strengthened by these countries in india because they are surrounding they also around in africa song. and it's no coincidence. i have a page that just stays after the telephone conquers afghanistan, the taliban announced that they would guarantee the security of western pipelines in afghanistan. that wasn't very talent. and then days after that the c i a director match with the leadership of the pilot. and that's what's also very talent, and i believe that sooner rather than later, you will see washington and london establish diplomatic relations with those
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relations of their. okay, well that the, the, the last page that saga has yet to be written. i agree with much of what you have to say, but i think of the an idea for a separate programs. i want to thank my guess in london and here in moscow big years we're watching of here are dc next time. remember the ah ah ah ah ah
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