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progress from back or side using ai and using other advanced technologies to there has been on the defensive side. oh oh, hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i'm funeral about, well, it's official. the u. s. military has declared the great 3 powers competition featuring the u. s. russia and china. how does neo liberal ideology play into this? and what does russia gate and genuine 6 i'm in common? ah.
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to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan samuel in budapest, he's a podcast to read the gaggle which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we have dmitri bob and she is a political analyst and editor. and in a me, internet, media project card generally across stock rules and effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i would appreciate it. let's go to moscow here. and the magic general milly came out with a speech that startled the establishment, but really shouldn't have is, there is a new tri polar trilateral world, and it's russia, china, and the united states. and, but what i took away from it is it's, you know, it's not really that it's kind of a bipolar or bipolar point or something like that because he's assuming that these are 3 discrete powers that are in competition with each other, which is not the case ok, what is he getting at go head?
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well, i think there is no object. your physical reason for the confusion because russia has been very accommodating the mind. you paid for 1000. i mean, all the russian, all field gas fields, they're all been, you know, there was a growing married, and we're welcome to china will do. and we're going to date since the late seventy's was the chief chinese labor. that the problem of success that we have seen in the mind is that so the reasons for these are the conference and just wanted to see how the state is trying to make russia in china. i mean there was a logical charm. i chose culture in the, in the 40 and 40 see it, which was headline general, how can we,
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how can we make russian moral shame? and the story is that it, you, that you are actually in china, diverge, and there are lots of reasons, objective, reasons for rivalry. why? what's rivals, very simple reason with you will, you can, you can develop without each other. and there is a common rest. i mean, the saw the studio stage 1st, the liberal media crowd. the problem is crazy. you want to or china with no reason. now, why didn't it is all and was sharing that degrees, you know, even increase in a way and. busy your family, don't. democracy is the sound, but it's clearly
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a china and russia and then by the end of the price and the chinese of the russian . when you well, the reason why this, why the station there, why are they have been playing in rush in china seas and we don't want to be when we want real. real good rate. i mean you dial, but that's what milly wants. so by the way, george, we're going to have a lot of fun with the democracy conference coming up. there's a lot of room for mockery there, but we'll save that for another day. george, i mean milly's words are kind of interesting. he's a very silly man. but it looks on the one hand, on the one hand, there is an acknowledgement. finally, he's been russia, china agree powers. it took a long time, but it's there. but then on the other hand, this is the, the, the, the paradigm for the new cold war. and we need a lot of arms for it. you know, so you got a buckle up in brace for impact, you know,
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because the arm is it producing industry, you're going to be really busy. go ahead. george. yes, no question. because you also said a couple of days earlier off of this aspen conference and then there's a split moment. china has now reached the side on the missiles and therefore. busy you know, the united states will have to go into overdrive in order to catch up and opens a china because everyone knows what school need moment means. it's a massive investment in military, in sciences, research and everything, which is what happened to the, the shock of the soviet spoke. you know, i mean this is really, i mean it is healthy that the united states except that there are other great powers that have their own. busy interests that may or may not come into conflict with the interests of united states. i mean,
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it has always been the us and there's no reason to be particularly horrified by this event. the question is, what does the united states intend to do about this? and you know, if one passes the words of mil, it suggests that well the united states has to take all these great power rivals because we just don't go on living with the existence of great power i was and acknowledging the interests of these great and really the, the, the issue is also that russia and china are really not rivals at whole. i mean, they base figure on the facto allies. i mean, the not military allies, but they are each of their foreign policy interest in foreign policy positions. almost issues in the world. they are in agreement. and then russia and china had been brought to this very close partnership. that's the result of the united states . you're just bas unit kind of mutual hostile it into both. both of you threatened
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by the united states. they have grown increasingly goes together, so nice, it's kind of finds it. so some isolated web with it we're facing. this are very substantial of long and demon b. again, you know that we can bring up a new cold war paradigm. but on china's and nominally a communist country is run by a communist party, but it doesn't want to export its ideology, unlike during the 1st cold war. russia, well, it's just a conservative country out there interested in its own self interest here. but how, how, how is american exceptionalism play in this? because i'm the one hand, you know, you're just said, you know, there's a finally, a reckoning, a recognition. finally, it took a long time that there are other great powers. ok? but the, there they're not this, these 3 great powers are not the same for the u. s. is very intend to export. i the
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ology rules based order and all that other nonsense here. and that's what for me, makes it dangerous. because the, that russia, basically it's a status quo power, dis, you know, why don't you let us alone and develop on our own china that is not looking for a quarrel with the united states though you wouldn't believe that from liberal media or on media in the united states. so this american exceptionalism, again, is a, is a break rational thinking, in my opinion, go ahead team. well, make an exception. wait here and the scroll is very, i mean, what would you be? or do we have in the united states, the m all relations with china? there is, by the way. and there is, for example, need to have the last go you by the find china important over an oil form. good shoot. and you have your ride from divide every barrel while you or you there was, you know, it's a, it's
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a huge variety of being that you haven't had to chinese very core file or 100 percent. great choice. but you're quite right here. if i know how they are out to the bro, i know, you know, did you why did it take so much time for the night of the day trying to has been growing. reach you in the last 40 years. right. why don't, you know, will be us. there will be 3 be represented by intellectuals and then by some of all that interest you step if you get reach a guess at this point, that step american demographic that we're just arguing. what will happen when they, when they get 5000 goals and one was, it was, it was,
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you know, because you have maybe reached which to accept american values. and you have maybe just like to see that spoke to the government. so basically. busy you know, blame it is i do apologize for that is blaming china. oh, ground good became so rich and how come you gently best a girl you're not supposed to do so you are supposed to last for us. so we have the, you know, kind of a good, you know, of, you know, make noted your mistakes. if this operating for your old, you are our fancier elderly friends in china. it's all this i go to school is all this house is a government in china,
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it's iraq in so you know, also the syria is there us, that's a band aid and a no charge. i mean, when you're, if, if anyone uses a nikki haley is a rep for it's one of the lowest los octane thinkers that we've come across in our lifetime doctor and being a foreign policy expert here. i mean, the demons absolutely right here. i mean, it seems to me that i go back to the more kind of nuts and bolts thing. i mean, this ideology is the service of very specific narrow interest. i mean, this is a good grift ahead. ok. i mean, i lost it in afghanistan. gotta make it up here someplace. ok, i mean shareholders are asking ok, and of course it plays to the american exceptionalism, a paradigm. and as you pointed out, you know, the u. s. s a stand up to me through it or to, i mean it's, and you know, it's a wonderful narrative that you can beat the masses. ok, as, as, as you know, with, with these mom bills, the biden is as putting through congress, you know,
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and congress who actually passing and it just makes the rich richer. and it's a streaming in the middle class even more. but don't worry, we've got to fight the good fight. i mean, this isn't ridiculous. go ahead, george. yes, yes, this is an excellent point because it is a logical fight that the biden administration in particular wants to wait. because a trump really was the 1st president who had brought up the issue of trying a me when you 1st of all had the whole cold war paradigm. china is great because china is on our side against the soviet union, even though china was then in the midst of this cultural revolution. but all great and good guys because i went outside and that went from quite a while because it was still. busy a grade below that, it was russian. you can see that manifested in the expansion of nato. and then i think, you know, right, a china is now a serious economic rival. i mean, you know,
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it will be the number one economy in the world. but trump made this into a non media logical company. i mean, he was taking on everybody who's of economic interest class for those of the united states. when buying is done, it's brought back to the cold war aspect to it, which is a logical rival, chinese somehow waging some sort of a flight project. the american idea that waging a flight of b r a, we're going to go, we're going to go to a short break with george's, right? that's why they got rid of. for those reasons, exactly. all right, we're going to go to which are breaking up a break. we'll continue our discussion on some really, ah ah, ah
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oh, when i want something wrong when i just don't hold any world just to shave out. disdain becomes the attitude. and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground. ah,
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welcome back across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle. this is the home addition to remind you. we're discussing some real news. ah ok, let's go back to budapest year as our viewers new learn from last week i asked my guess what they would like to talk about and they send me suggestions and demon george, most of the suggestions and the topic they're at hand right now is george's suggestion, what, how can we correlate together? what, or what does russia gate and january 6 mom narratives have in common georgia because you haven't such a fascinating thesis. go ahead. well, because we love this week through the indictment that was issued against the ego done jenko, who was the source for the crystal steel dossier, which was a ha, the russian gave folks was that from start to finish. every item in
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russia gate was invented by american operatives of clinton, campaign oper, gives democratic party operatives. and then of course, the contributions of various people in the f, b i, the cia, gave it credibility, gave an oxygen launch massive investigation. that was that the special counsel. and what happened was the complete d, legitimize ation all the presidential election of 2016. and so it was now was presented in the media over and over again. several years. trump became president through the assistance of the russians, the kremlin in post trump on the united states. we now know there was no in put whatsoever in washington, and there was 0 all it was all american,
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but it was a hose that, you know, this political purpose, which was basically, you know, trump administration never really recovered from the blows. busy busy of roughly 8, constantly struggling to impeachment for special counsel investigation as on the january. the 6th thing is also host. i mean, we know really the outlines of what happened was mostly peaceful protests. it was something went wrong, it became a riot, wasn't particularly serious, right? all was restored within a few hours. nonetheless, the media in the line to the democratic party. and again in alliance with the f. b, i was characters within the, by the ministration of, with the saw into some rig a fold on the american democracy. a game of d, legitimizing the opposition, which is prom when it's the same characters a both it's one was you know,
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an outside adversary meddling inside american politics. that narrative. and now we have the same characters that are targeting. well, essentially half the population epi, i wasn't exactly, you know, the media. it's the same thing. so it's a, it's really the same paradigm just as, what is the domestic features to it. ok, give me your thoughts here because this is that this is the same, a leach trying to pull a, a pull off a narrative that is completely contrived. and it is in service of power. ok, but it's a, it's a way to annihilate, not to question, but to annihilate your political adversary. i had i got up so i would use the what year. i mean, what was the purpose of this whole. busy russian gate, what was the outcome? was contra counter and they were going to which the,
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i guess the russian eat, basically long only reach people would rush up. i'm also going to be wherever, in a way, anything they should be targeted by casa the same story with in a way to get women. so it's a way for genie date, russia and russia was science that and i completely agree with you is the same story with done this on a seemingly as the actual but these were all when they asked i absolutely more, but the punishments were so severe. the language use them was so or style that in the, in can people. i mean don't give a try as the,
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as the whole problem is that all these stories are based on a lie. i mean, the need to know, read, just go magazine bro, the lines that we're going to do a lot, the more you will then all you know, and if you the way roddicks, if right now, just a few days ago, there was a dodge for the move that for you own us where you know on us, there were no extra the guys were present. well, the whole russia gates in this dungeon. the story about john and the russian ross, if you will give you're in a general him in a more school office, you know, the american media urinate or go up there for several years. and the language that you was was so rude,
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so force. and it was based on the lives of just one individual either and maybe then jenko is a product, probably a pretty creepy character. i don't know him personally, but i mean he, he did what he was asked to do. he was asked to do apo research and you know, to get your paycheck. you've got to push the envelope there, you know, and coming in maybe a little bit more, a little bit more spicy. ok? i doesn't get them, i'll get him on it. i will just say a. busy hans, monkey very well. here's what we're lean advisors each the story. barnes dungeon feeds the story. cuz you still think this story because you still have teens it to the media and then we have 3 years old wise. that is wonderful. now. ok, but let me go back to george, him. and then the, the interesting thing for me is that i'm going to wait with you. and i talked to the gaggle about the virginia election, but you know, the default position for the liberal media is january 6th. i think the border,
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january, 6th, vaccines, january 36. okay. this is exactly what russia gave was. it was a default position. ok. and they can so, and any opposition is deem interaction is here. this is what they're doing. i mean, not only is a very destructive, but they don't allow any other and they don't allow any interrogatories. because if you disagree, well, of course in your racist ok, this is, this is a closed loop narrative. just like rush gate go ahead. yes. yes, no question. and purpose of rushing it was always d, legitimize, and ultimately destroy the trump residents. in many ways, it succeeded, but not what january. the 6th of january, the 6th is the the go to position of the democrat, every failure of the bind ministration. well, let's talk about john, you would say, and you know, we know the outcome of this. i mean, eventually that january,
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the 6th committee will issue a report. it will undoubtedly say trump a version an insurrection, and then the overthrow of the legitimate government of the united states. he must be impeached with a view to ensure that you never again office in the united states. that's the go. and then this is, this will happen, i mean, i, i still think there will be a, so impeachment of trump before all the mid terms. you know, and this is, you know, the way you operate with hopes and that's why it's important. the same characters are involved in both biden, hello, c, obama, the f, b i a because they never really paid a price for russia. they're able to just simply continue as before without any challenge. i have to say george, but i mean, over throwing a democratic elect the let's doesn't all around the world right. don't do it. no,
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no, no. but the interesting thing is, now that we're on it, there's this whole regime change paradigm that they, they can jam as incorrect united states, the same player to bring the regime change a playbook. ukraine is the most outstanding one in recent memory here, but they're, they're applying a lot of the same strategies just focusing on mag, people and people that are in orbit. i mean, it's really quite remarkable that it's an a template that apparently can be imported. go ahead. well, i mean, we have so many here, party stories on the situation or to the why the biggest media as they do this for, for the posing bar. and then the right to read them the
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biggest best way to to do. ready the same thing, the gift, and then you can predict yours and the in the 9 years, 5 years or basically the same thing, right? you know, by, by the units are the same story away as you bring a peaceful grow, the yield a police and lame hundreds of them. they are you, you know, all the way they should be. all said all their heroes. and basically what all does is do they and the saw them did the different ways for obvious reasons, you know, because they were in the congress, one of these people as of the, as far as i understand, you know, that there august my number out there were hold for the road.
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i'm somehow in your brain, if you're roy and they are even though these people i'm glad you bringing up the the, the, the utter contradictions. here. george ashley babbitt. i mean, if you want liberal media, she's demonize as a terror, an armed woman, a veteran, f, someone like a 100 pounds and 5 foot 3. she's demonized as a terrorist that could potentially go knows like a terminator taken out, the floor of congress. mean this is absurd, and then the officer that murdered her and i think the word murdered her is, is turned into a hero last 30 seconds. going to you talk. i 2nd, this is exactly parallel between january the 6. then rush again, the real clear criminals of rush, the gate seal co,
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me mccain all the people who gave oxygen and you knew that this was a hoax. i've gone on punish, and here actually bad. it was mother called love and woman. and the guy who did a police on who shopping that close range without any warning, he sales a year or so that's a saying, you know, the real criminals are the true crimes were committed. well that they've gone on punished or everyone else has had to soccer with roger. busy so what then do anything, well, have a reputation in the same people that are doing it here. all right, that's all the time you want to think. i guess you're in moscow, mom watching this here are next time. remember? ah, ah,
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ah, a doctor seen division spot protests in america after court temporarily blocked the biden administration's plan to impose compulsory coven shots on businesses and charged over the capitol hill. riots compares foul conditions and a washington jail to that of guantanamo bay. in the program, we speak with an investigative journalist who perceive the prisoner's letter. i know that he january sits, prisoners are being treated worse than move prisoners. that's what i'm hearing from them. they're not allowed to have visitors and they're just being put in solitary confinement often iraq and grapples with a security crisis off the deadly post election.


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