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heavy pedestrian cross range. so we want to provide this so each view knows where they belong. the image is an image of the current market street paving. which probably everybody is familiar with. it a curve of granite. and this is an image from our design consultants who proposed to show a paver system with a street line zone with different paving where you see the curve in a pedestrian zone and you
have the street lights and you have a different type of paving material and the pedestrian through zone that 15-foot zone from the edge to the street light zone you have a different type of paver. that is proposed by our consultant. what we are were looking at is three different options with two variables. one is to prepare the existing bricks, the second would be to replace the brick with the new paving system, either regular standard concrete sidewalk or with a concrete, or other type of pavers, this focus group convened to look at the market street and give expert opinion on the existing paving and look at other kinds of paving that could be potential. the key considerations were first,
safety, the second, maintenance and durability so over time the paving would stay safe and our universal design considerations for people with disabilities including mobility and visual and sensory disabilities. the first workshop where we broke out into small groups during the day. so just an overview of what we actually did, the process on the first day we went over the goals and on objectives of the workshop and discussed that. we shared a short presentation about the market street project and we talked about and listened to the response to that proposal and that's when we broke out and we listened to everything, all the feedback about the
proposal. the image you see on the right is from day two and it shows a map of the two different routes that we took when we went out into the field and looked at the actual paving and conditions. that's on day two. the top two is we had a recap of the first work shop and reflection on what we said and heard. we did a walk tour preparation and we did the tour and afterwards we had a round table discussion of our findings. the focus group access the market group paving in the following way. the brick paving is slick especially the newer brick is more slippery. it can stick in some wheelchairs when you are going
a distance. the joints between the bricks can cause a tripping hazard and crutches and canes to catch and the granite can be slippery. we had a great opportunity to have all kinds of harsh conditions because it was saturday in the rain. we were looking at all the paving conditions wet and cooling and dark. so the other assessment of the paving was from a visual perspective and the brick is a dark paving and speciallly when it's wet. so it reduces the visual cues. the singular paving surface doesn't distinguish the sidewalk zone, the through way from the street line zone. the image on the
right is during the tour looking at the public and the private, the two different paving shows the public is the darker paving and the private towards the building edge is very slick. we looked at many alternatives. we did look at the paving on market street but we also looked on mission street and alley ways. we saw many different types and the focus group provided an assessment for all paving materials as well. brushed concrete with coerce aggregate provided visibility and safety. the edge curb, pedestrian
access travel and building edge. so the brush concrete had a texture and what you will see on the right image is a public private, the public you see on the right and the concrete paving and the private on the left, and in fact when we showed up on saturday when it was already wet when it was coming into the building, one of our members, alberto, his crutch slipped. before we started the task of seeing in reality how that paving is very unsafe. the focus group had the following recommendation for the better market street paving. to specify paving
including covers, install joints to prevent canes and crutches from catching and the image on the right is from one of our round table discussing the paving. we came out of the focus group with design recommendations for the better matter street project, to distinguish the pedestrian through way by using different paving textures and color for visible audible and tactile clues and the third is to design consistent paving along the corridor to predict language to promote ease of use. and the conclusion about the market street brick is that it's as aesthetically pleased.
it's necessary for all pedestrians especially those with disabilities and visual disability. the image on the right is from the tour looking at a brush concrete paving on mission street. so for next steps out of this focus group, we have created a report, we drafted a report. the mayor's office on disability and better market street team have collaborated on that report and we are on a final draft. we will share that with participants and it will also be available on our website. this report will inform the policy decision regarding the sidewalk paving on market street. it will guide the better market street design team in the selection of new paving materials. this is continue the on going public dialogue to advance the
universal design principals in the better market street project. you can see on the right with one of our groups walking down the street that the pavement is very wet. we got soaked and nobody complained. everybody was very focused. this is our website where the report will be available and contact > thank you, we will take questions from the councilmembers and
staff and then the public. >> thank you. i would like to thank you and the independent living resource center in san francisco. i see this as a great launching pad for further activities that can be done with other community based organizations and also to show just how important it is to have that input from the disability community and to evaluate it more than just a simple comment card or a letter. to actually invest the time, energy and financial resources as well into getting a real sense for what it is that can best help and create universal access. i want to commend you and everyone else.
>> cochair chip? >> thank you for your presentation. i had a question. 1st two comments. i want to commend everybody who was involved in this. this is what makes it truly usable by everybody. thank you. what is our timetable for the better market street? is it in there? i'm sorry. >> right here. we just finished our conceptual design and starting environmental review which will go about 20 years. in 2015 we start to design for a couple of years to 2017. construction begins in 2017. >> was there a competition for designs or is it all going to be done? >> that's a good question. not that i know of. there will
probably been behind the meter an rfp. it won't be a design competition, but a different sort of competition. >> thank you. >> thank you, anymore comments in the council? staff? >> just a quick one. thank you so much kerry and simon and peter for everything you did to make this happen. for people that are watching on television, can we get you to repeat the website address and the phone numbers so that people will know whenever to go to see the report when they are published. the website is better matter street. sf.org.
better market sft.org. the number is 415-558-4045. the tty number is 415-488-4088. thank you. anymore comments? we have public comment now. i'm bob plan hold. i was one of the people that focused on this group. i want to pay a compliment and a request. not stated enough is the extraordinary insight by staff from dpw and carla and john paul in looking at the different walking surfaces already out there and having us analyze those by walking,
rolling or sliding along them in that rain. it was an extraordinary amount of detail that showed in the sites and the samples they picked. it really helped to understand how complex and how much we have to consider safety and yet safety isn't always a factor in aesthetic design. i want to compliment the staff or what they did for the tour. the advocacy request. i want to go back if you can review the powerpoint where you saw the analysis that brick may have aesthetics benefits but it's not that safe because of it's slickness, it's ability to chip and therefore have a different level of surfaces. the advocacy request is that folks, you really have to pay attention
when there are hearings, when there are decisions. there is a strong advocacy interest in brick sidewalks that originally were put in san francisco in the 70s, allegedly supposedly for some reason as a reflection of san francisco's historic character. my comment then and since, if they want that historic character, why don't they put in wood board sidewalks. the point is they are picking some aspect of history, but they have to now think there is an ada aspect to design and construction that was not present in the 70s. they have to think about the safety of all and not just the aesthetic interest of some we will have to fight because there is an historic
preservation in this city and agencies for that. until you also get out there to speak our need, we can possibly wind up with having brick again still for another generation. thank you.a cochairs? public comment? >> i just wanted to, i know you have a tight agenda. i just wanted to add one last thank you to everyone that worked on this project and everyone who supported especially all the focus group members. i work on a lot of projects and my 30 questions of advocacy. i think we really did good work. i want
to say job well done to everyone. thank you. >> thank you. >> i have a comment to that. i definitely want to thank everybody on the team including our subject matter experts. all 10 people who came over those two weekends and got drenched that day and i want to thank especially john paul scott for all the work he put into planning and organizing this event. thank you. >> thank you guys very much for your presentation. >> thank you. >> we are cutting time here. okay. we are going to move team 13. public comment. not on today's agenda. is there any public comment? seeing that there is no public comment, oh. i'm sorry. excuse me. >> i will be quick. i didn't
get to this earlier. i want to congratulate once again chip on your election to cochair and also welcome derek to the council and i want to say a few words. derek is an outstanding person who has a lot of expert knowledge on local and state and national policies and a lot of wisdom. he is also one of the people that helps me keep stay technologically connected. computers, cell phones, well, derek did a lot of work to set that up. i want to welcome him and also welcome even though she's not here council member i bar a.
>> okay, seeing that we have no more public comment. oh, public comment? just period. this is to end our public comment. >> just real quick. thank you. tony robles with senior and disability action. i want to make an announcement about a theatrical performance that we are going to be hosting. we have a general meeting once a month at the unitarian universal church on franklin and gary. we are going to be hosting a play called mercy killers by gilligan sponsored by the house of california. the 13th. from 10-12. the
performance by michael, he's a national guy working on the u.s.. his wife goes through cancer and he goes through all these pitfalls . we are going to be -- cosponsoring it. you can get tickets from me or call us or e-mail us at sd action.org. the phone number 415-456-1333. >> we are going to team 14. information team correspondence. is there any? >> the one piece of
correspondence we put in your packet is a copy from the resignation letter from bridget. is there anythingel? -- else? >> there is a couple of letters to the counsel from the housing authority. >> thank you very much. now we are going to move to team 15, discussion items we have like one minute each. cutting the clock. rolling. >> okay. i don't know how to make this short. the physical access committee report i will be forwarding it to the council through e-mail or snail mail. i want to make a quick announcement. i work for independent living resource center san francisco and i would like to take a moment to kind of know enough that maybe
take a break from all these meetings and have some fun for a change to engage in social activities that are put together. some of the highlights that i put together was like disney on ice. i had 18 participants. we all had a wonderful time. i provided flyers at the front table. just pick one up. you can reach me at irlc san francisco, the office number 415-543-6222. my e-mail address is roland @ irlc
san francisco.org. you can call me. >> i missed that. we have one minute. tonya? >> [inaudible] >> your mic is not on. you have exactly a minute. >> i want to address an issue that patients that san francisco are going through on the kidney dialysis unit. they are more or less being pushed to go to laguna honda for dialysis. everything at san francisco general is there for them. we went to the board of supervisors yesterday, there were 30 patients that came to talk about this. they are very concerned. the head of the unit is very concerned also as were the board of supervisors were.
he said they would be willing to come and talk about the issue to our main. i thought maybe i should have them come talk at our executive meeting. >> thank you. you guys, we hit the button. we would like to say thank you for the election. co- chairchair chip, nothing person ---al. i'm so glad you are a cochair. thank you very much. come to the executive meeting tuesday 4-6 here at city hall. thank you all so much. >> a quick thank you to our asl interpreters today. i have been very appreciative going to the various functions, organizational functions where i see asl interpreters. thank
are here at the san francisco urban center on mission street in san francisco and i'm joined today by marrielen from puc and talk about water and sewer issues. what are things we should be concerned about water. >> you want to be prepared for that scenario and the recommendation is to have stored 1 gallon per person per day that you are out of water. we recommend that you have at least 3-5 days for each person and also keep in consideration storage needs for your pets and think about the size of your pets and how much water they consume. >> the storage which is using tap water which you are going to encourage. >> right. of course at the puc we recommend that you store our wonderful delicious tap water. it's free. it comes out of the tap and you can store it in any
plastic container, a clean plastic container for up to 6 months. so find a container, fill it with water and label it and rotate it out. i use it to water my garden. >> of course everyone has plastic bottles which we are not really promoting but it is a common way to store it. >> yes. it's an easy way to pick up bottles to store it. just make sure you check the label. this one says june 2013. so convenient you have an end date on it. >> and there are other places where people have water stored in their houses. >> sure. if you have a water heater or access to the water heater to your house, you can drink that water and you can also drink the water that the in the tank of your toilet. ; not the bowl but in your tank.
in any case if you are not totally sure about the age of your water or if you are not sure about it being totally clean, you can treat your water at home. there is two ways that you can treat your water at home and one is to use basic household bleach. the recommendation is 8 drops of bleach for ever gallon of water. you add 8 drops of bleach into the water and it needs to sit for 30 minutes. the other option is to boil water. you need to boil water for 5-10 minutes. after an earthquake that may not be an option as gas maybe turned off and we may not have power. the other thing is that puc will provide information as quickly as possible about recommendations about whether the water is okay to drink or
need to treat it. we have a number of twice get information from the puc through twitter and facebook and our website sf water.org. >> people should not drink water from pools or spas. but they could use it to flush their toilets if their source are not broken. let's look at those issues. >> sanitation is another issue and something people don't usually or like to think about it but it's the reality. very likely that without water you can't flush and the sewer system can be impeded or affected during an earthquake. you need to think about sanitation. the options are simple. we recommend a set up if you are able to stay in your building or house to make sure that you have heavy duty trash bags available. you can set this up within your existing
toilet bowl and once it's used. you take a little bit of our bleach. we talked about it earlier from the water. you seal the bag completely. you make sure you mark the bag as human waste and set it aside and wait for instruction about how to dispose of it. be very aware of cleanliness and make sure you have wipes so folks are able to wash up when dealing with the sanitation issue. >> thank you so much, >>