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>> good evening everyone. i would like to call this meeting to order. anthony? >> good evening. this is the meeting of the san francisco commission on the environment. the date is tuesday january 23rd, 2018, and the time is 5:05 p.m. the ringing and use of cell phones and pagers are prohibited at the meeting. be advised that the chair may order the removal from the
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meeting room any persons responsible for sound producing electronic devices. note to the public, there will be general public comment for every item on the agenda and an opportunity for general public comment for items not on the agenda and that would be during item four. we ask that you complete a speakers card and hand it to me and i'll hand it to the president and she'll call folks in the order we receive them. call to order item one, roll call. president elmy bermejo. commissioner wan is excused. there's a quorum. item for discussion. >> welcome to the commission on the environment. this is our first meeting since the untimely passing of ed lee.
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i want to send sincere condolences to his wife and daughters. his last appearance was at the recycling press conference with the department of environment and he spoke about the work so eloquently like he always did. we are really, really saddened by the loss of our environmental champion and today we'll discuss ways to support and maintain his legacy. reflecting back on a year ago this month was an overwhelming turnout at the women's march and march for science. this weekend many of us marched peacefully once again to ensure our voices are heard. i had the honor of speaking this weekend to what they consider -- they didn't think a lot of people would show up, there were 2600 people who came to voice concerns.
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men, women, children, and it was a beautiful day and a lot of people were energized to get out there and continue the work of not only the kind of work mayor lee did but all our leaders who believe in science are doing. and a motivated public. what we have seen, local governments can and must lead the global climate fight. in september, san francisco will be hosting governor brown's call to action summit here. we look forward to showcasing to the world that the city and county of san francisco stands for science, facts and action when it comes to the urgent threat facing our communities and our planet. today we have with us two members of the california energy commission. another example of the department's partnership with state government to support science, fact and action.
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commissioner david hokeshield was appointed by governor brown. commissioner andrew mcallister was appointed by governor brown. we welcome you both to the meeting. they will be presenting on the remarkable work at the state level. this will be followed by presentations from the department's energy team about our incredible progress toward san francisco's being powered by renewable energy by the year 2030. later in the meeting we'll talk about diversement from fossil fuels. thank you commissioners for your leadership in bringing this conversation to the commission and congratulations on your
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outstanding article. there will be elected officials appointing us today and there might be a slight change to pause an item to hear another item out of order. we thank you in advance for your patience. we have a very long agenda. there's a lot of work to be done. we'll get right to it. is there any public comment? >> this is my first time here. i really enjoyed my time at sf college and being motivated to protect the planet and admire and thank the work you guys do. what i'm here to talk about, i'll make comment later for sferes to divest, but this is only the first step. i'm part of the public bank of
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sf coalition. we're working to urge the city treasurer and the bay of san francisco to divest the $10 billion cash flow it has with bank of america and more importantly wall street banks. wall street banks, they are not good big banks, they fund pretty much evil thing you can imagine. there's only one public bank in the country, the public bank of north dakota, ironically, that's where standing rock happened, so i just want to put on notice, i know this is not the arena for that, but i think what the trump administration has shown -- not shown, but given an opportunity, i think -- i'm not speaking on this commission but in a general sense, there's too many title driven people, we need purpose
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driven people. whatever you guys can do in your power to help this movement move along. a public option -- a public bank as radical as it sounds is fiscally conservative. i could make that argument. finance not politics could be the soft underbelly of the environment. these corporations, they don't care about anything but money. you can make all the arguments you want, we can, we can scream top of the lungs, divestment is the language they're going to listen to. i speak more in general. the public bank coalition is
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here. we had the meeting over the past six months and national nurses united, dsa and more. i'm leaving out some. follow us on twitter at public bank sf and like us on facebook. there's a budget and finance committee and we're going to urge this is the answer. we're a charter city and county and we can accelerate it. we have 10 billion, imagine what wall street would think if we took 10 billion because of fossil fuels. thank you. >> any other public comment? hearing none, next item. >> the next item is item three, approval of minutes from november. november 29th draft minutes for discussion and action.
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>> do we have a motion for the approval of the minutes? >> i move it through. >> second. >> moved by commissioner wan and seconded by commissioner stephenson. all in favor? >> aye. >> public comment? hearing none, motion passes. thank you. >> the next item is item for general comment. members of the public may address the commission with matters not on today's agenda. >> i'm josh and i volunteer with friends of the urban forest for more than eight years. in addition to planting hundreds of trees around san francisco, i have become interested in preserving the existing forestry
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policies and practices. i've attended the meetings with urban council, this is the first time other than accidently giving my public comment at an operations meeting last week. san francisco prides on being green, but in the name alone, our urban canopy is the worst of any major city in the u.s., we lose 4% of the canopy every year. in 2014, a phased plan noted that there were approximately 100,000 empty tree bases. 208 new trees every month for the next 20 years. friends of the urban forest works with san francisco's forestry for primary entity for
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planting trees but cannot keep pace with the city plan. the funding seems to get worse every year. only four years into the season and it's way behind. including the 2016 annual report, the commission has a strong track record for making recommendations that become law and your 2016 annual report notes that all ordinances were signed into law. the focus is removing toxic materials from the environment. as a 21 year resident for the city, i thank you. i understand the commission's mission is to help with urban forestry. trees are the only pollution reducing tool on the planet. if we stopped every other polluting process in the world, trees are the only tools to make
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sure future generations have clean air to breathe. i have three questions for the commission. first, what can you do to support funding for tree planting to make sure it's consistent with the city's 20 year plan and second, what can we do to make sure san francisco is a national leader in urban forest practices and what can you do to make sure san francisco greens the environment to the international community who will be here for the action summit. >> thank you. curtis woo. are there any -- yes, would you like to step forward?
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okay. next item anthony? >> the next item is item five, presentation on environmental service awards, great alternatives, sponsored by eddie ahn the commissioner. >> commissioner ahn is the sponsor of the item and this is the environmental service award. the way we'll do this, we'll have commissioner ahn say a few words and present the award and we'll take a photo and then give them an opportunity to speak if they like. and we'll see if fellow commissioners would like to add
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anything to this item. commissioner ahn? >> thank you. if the staff for [indiscernible] if the staff from good alternatives could stand at the podium. >> welcome. (laughter) i'm pleased to present this award to the nonprofit that i'm familiar with. it seems fitting to honor an organization there since the beginning at the epicenter for
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green alternative. you are established during the 2001 california energy crisis and their mission was to make renewable energy technology and job training accessible to all communities, disadvantaged communities but i prefer under served and under employed local residents which is a cause near and dear to me. great alternatives was established with the focus on bayview hunter's point. there's always been a special relationship with the department of environment through the environmental justice grant program that continues until this day. just last year great alternatives partnered with the mayor's office and department to address the fact that some homeowners need upgrades to wiring and roofs. that's a partnership that continues with the mayor's office and department to help fund those home upgrades in
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coordination with great alternatives. it has proven to be a model that has installed close to 10,000 nationwide. i think with the unfortunate news yesterday of the trump administration making attack against the solar panels themselves, your work is more important than ever. please keep up the good work and look forward to continuing our partnership in the future. i'll present the award to you and i invite my fellow colleagues to come down and take the picture with you as well.
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(laughter) (applause) >> thank you so much. all of the commissioners, debbie, who i have known for many years. and commissioner ahn, you said most of what i was going to say. but i just want to say that it feels very special to be honored by this city and county with such a strong commitment to environment and equity as you said and particularly on this day as the trump administration
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is really attacking things on both ends. it really means so much to us. i want to thank the department of environment and jessie denver and all the great staff there who have been amazing partners. want to honor late mayor lee who was such an inspiration for so many of us. and such an inspiration for many of us and grateful for the support of solar and housing in the city. i also want to thank some of our really amazing partners here today. we have dr. smith from the young communi community developers here today and some homeowners who have been recipients of our systems who couldn't make it because of the time. but i want to thank all of them. and really honor all of the
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amazing participants and job trainees who have come through our program and professor smith's program and have learned how to install solar at the same time giving back to the community. grid has installed 268 systems in san francisco alone and if you add up the impacts, 15,000 tons of greenhouse gas emissions that will be prevented from the installations and $5 million worth of savings for all of those families. thank you to the grid staff from our headquarters and regional team. thank you for your support. (applause) >> commissioners any comments?
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commissioner ahn. >> i believe at this point invite public comment perhaps on this item? >> we can do discussion now and then public comment. okay. >> no, i've had my say at this point. >> director raphael? >> when mayor lee first interviewed me to be director of the environment, his first words to me were debbie, how can you make sure it reaches all san franciscoians. that was the number one thing he was thinking of when selecting the person for the job. the work of grid embodies our late mayor's ethic to wanting to
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bring benefit to everyone and so solar is not just for those who can afford it, who have the fancy homes. it's pretty easy in a way to make requirements for new construction. we can say all new houses have to have solar. the challenge is how do you put it on existing buildings, especially when the people who occupy them can't put the solar on. there is -- there are very few examples in my experience of organizations as effective as grid alternative. the thing that warms my heart so deeply and i'm so glad there's regional staff here as well, your focus is way beyond the bubble of the bay area. you're looking how do we bring solar to places not only like san francisco with tremendous political will in the mayor's office but how do we bring it out to cities without the
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political will and goes way beyond the converted. i was so excited when commissioner ahn suggested you as a recipient. i couldn't agree more. i think you embody the exact thing we're looking for in public, private, ngo partnerships. you figure out a way to bring the private sector, public sector, community organizations together for the good of the planet and i salute you and thank you. >> commissioner hoyos? >> yeah, thank you. i also wanted to say how inspiring your work is. and i think i want to appreciate the way you also tell stories, i mean storytelling is so important to moving hearts and minds in the public. i remember when good alternatives was in fresno and i
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was very moved. i spoke with jackie patterson putting solar on a shelter for women dealing with violence in their lives. i think we need to really support organizations like yours and i just want to say how moving and powerful your work is. i appreciate your legislative engagement and the fact that you're in 10 regions and a lot of states and international as well. thank you for being here. >> thank you for all the great work and we have public comment. everybody is speechless with the work. thank you. next item. >> the next item is -- (applause)
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>> item six, supporting edwin lee community fund, the speaker is deborah raphael, it's open for discussion. >> thank you. as the president said when we started the meeting, this is the first meeting since the passing of the mayor and i think it's important to give us all space to reflect on that and what it means for each of us as individuals, what it means for us as a department and city. at the mayor's memorial service, his daughters got up and spoke and i was so impressed with their poise and their eloquence with what they decided to share. one of the things they shared with everyone that day was the creation of a special fund at the san francisco foundation, the mayor edwin lee memorial fund.
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and i wasn't surprised that the mayor or the mayor's family would want to do that. what warmed my heart was when they listed the subject matters that this fund would focus on. and they said these were the things that were nearest and dearest to their father's heart and one of those areas that they talked about was the environment. and that this would be a way to honor his legacy on the environment as well as other issues but that was one that of course spoke to me individually. and so i wanted to invite the commission and anyone else listening in on this, that it would be i think very wonderful for us as a department and commission to support this endeavor and so, i have my check for the foundation. and i would just like to invite all of you to think about as you reflect on the mayor, making a contribution and if you would
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like to, to give your check to either me or anthony and i would invite anyone else in the audience who would like to do that as well, join the department and the commission and i'll take all the checks together and put them in a nice card and deliver them to the san francisco foundation, the family of mayor lee know we're doing it in his honor. i just wanted to let you know of that opportunity and hear your thoughts. >> thank you director. i brought my checkbook and i'm ready to write a check as well. it's really moving to be there in the audience with the mayor's family, his daughters and how eloquently they spoke about their dad. and what a champion he became for our commission, for our department and he was so proud when he went to the u.s. conference of mayors, to travelling to paris for the
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accords -- he just became our champion. and he is missed and we hope through the fund we can continue his work and never forget what a champion we had in somebody like mayor ed lee. commissioner stephenson. >> he's going to be so missed. am i on? i am now. he's going to be so missed and he was very new to his position when he appointed me to commission way back in the day and i didn't know what i was doing but he took a chance on me. and i think one of the things that that speaks to, he is a champion for so many things and understood the intersectionalty of so many different issues. not just the environment, it was the environment and local jobs. it wasn't just environmental justice, it was making sure environmental justice was baked
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into every single decision was were making at the department or across the city and he was a huge champion of women and i respect everything he did for our city and i'm very happy to give you a check to join in with the rest of the department. >> thank you. >> commissioner hoyos. >> echo what has been said. i had a chance to see him at the u.s. conference of mayor meeting and echo about his pride, joyfulness in the leadership of this city on climate issues, justice issues and all sorts of equity issues and so i'll also write a check. but i want to quickly talk about his demeanor. you think of the stress involved in being a leader in one of the
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world's most renound cities, he always had a warm smile and spirit and that's something that will always stay with me. thank you. >> commissioner wan. >> i did not bring my checkbook today, it's not because i'm dodging a check and i will commit to writing a check to the fund otherwise it would be awkward. (laughter) but i just wanted to, again, reiterate my colleague's comments, i think mayor lee has been extraordinary champion of environmental justice and making sure the reason why i'm on this commission is due to his leadership and it happened tragically a month before his passing. yeah, i'm happy to support this effort. thank you for bringing it into the agenda. >> before we take public comment, i want to add that he loved the san francisco giants
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so much and he was such a great champion of the san francisco giants, when i was in washington d.c. i was invited to the white house when the giants won the world series and he was wearing the big ring and he said do you want to try it on? yes. so he just loved the city so much that i'm really grateful to be one of his appointees. we invite public comment. next item? >> next item is number seven to be powered by 100% renewable power by 2030. the sponsor is director deborah
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raphael this item is for discussion. >> thank you. so anthony, are you going to -- >> sfgtv can we have the computer display. >> and commissioners you have the handout for my slides. i know the screens here are pretty fuzzy, at least what we're looking at. so this is a familiar image to those of us in the room who work with the department and city and climate action goals. we believe that talking about climate change like in phrases like we have to get 80% below 1990 levels by 2050 makes everybody's eyes glaze over and you don't know what that means or what to do. in san francisco when we talk about climate goals, while we have the reduction goals, we talk about it in a very simple way, 0/50/100 roots.
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0/0/0/. 50, 50% of trips in sustainable modes, we met that goal so now it will switch to 80. right now we're still showing the image at 50 but we're beyond that. 100% renewable energy. that's not just renewable electricity, it's getting off natural gas and gasoline and diesel and any energy we use is renewable and energy efficiency is reducing the load. roots is how we're healing the planet, it's promoting bio diversity in the urban forest. we heard a lovely talk about that in public comment and supporting carbon and soil fertility using the compost on range lands. so in a nutshell it's the way the city is meeting goals under
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the paris climate accord and beyond. we have selected different themes for commission meetings, zero, 50 on transportation and tonight is on 100. tonight we have got a really star studded cast of characters to talk. the question of course, how are we doing on all this. this is one of my favorite slides that i love to show around the world and that is we do care and track it. since 1990, our population has increased 19.9%. gdp and regardless of what donald trump says about sacrificing economy for environment, we have managed to decrease our greenhouse gas emissions over 28% even with our economy growing and our population increasing. so how do we go from here? the first thing we need to know, where are our emissions coming
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from? it's pretty clear when we look at this, the transportation sector, our vehicles, gasoline and diesel is 46% and buildings, primarily natural gas and some also, the electricity grid is the other roughly half of the equation. and what's interesting on this, if you look at the purple, municipal, you can see that while it's important and critical for the city to lead by example, we're going to have to get to the private sector on the transportation and buildings if we're going to meet our goals and clearly landfill organics is important and that's what we need to do to increase composting and getting all organics out of the landfill, including cardboard and paper as well. how are we going to do this? i think about the three pillars of deep carbonzation, i didn't come up with this but it helps
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me to think about how to get to the 100. what do we have to do to tease apart the elements of the 100 goal. the first is decrease our load, get as many led's in as we can but work on the ways we build efficiency so we decrease the need to begin with. we have to get off of fossil fuels as our energy source. and finally, when i talk about the 100, we're talking about getting off all fossil fuels, fuel switching to electric sources and switching in transportation and heating systems. so that in a nutshell is the challenge of the city in the next 30 years is how we're going to achieve all of those things. luckily we're not -- whoa. there we go. that's an interesting slide. so luckily we're not doing this alone.
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this is supposed to show the intersection of two roads but i didn't pick it out and it's very interesting. (laughter) that's the intersection of two double-decker freeways, that is great. i was thinking pads in the forest but that works. the metaphor is we can't do it alone. there's an important intersection between the role of cities and states. and i often say that san francisco and the bay area is the bubble inside the bubble. what i mean by that, california is the bubble and the bay area is the bubble inside that bubble. when we are at the intersection of the bubble inside the bubble, we have tremendous opportunity to do great things. we also have a tremendous responsibility to take those risks, to try things out. and make sure whatever we do benefits all those in san francisco which is why good
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alternatives is perfect as a symbol of our goal at this intersection. with that, i want to really thank jessie denver for putting together this starring cast you're going to hear from. president bermejo has talked about some celebrity star power, but there are also others who are heros who do the daily effort of taking the brilliance and vision of the state of california and making it real on the ground. with that, i hope it sets the stage and i'll turn it back over to our wonderful president. >> i think anthony will introduce 7a. >> the next item presentation of
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the efficiency mandate and achievements to date, the speaker is andrew mcallister. >> welcome. >> thank you. it's an honor to be here. it's particularly nice to be in san francisco. deborah, as you said, you can do a lot of things having the alignment and political will and populist that supports many things. i feel incredibly fortunate to be in california, we have a lot of leverage to pull and alignment across the state but i think higher contrast in san francisco. part of my message is we need you to succeed so we can take the lessons and provide it state wide. we learn so much about staff and
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communicate with the staff every day. that's the undercurrent here. there are a lot of relationships that make the system work and move ahead productively. i appreciate the invitation. i have been doing renewables and efficiency for pretty much my whole career and i remember back in the early 90s, i was doing off-grid solar installations in south america and people were saying i bet if you're down here, this stuff must be every where in the united states and the reason we were down there, it was too expensive for here and no one was doing it. they helped us develop the system to be where we are today. that was pushing 30 years ago and it ruthed in real change. so i'm going to talk about energy efficiency.
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this curve is the rosenvelt curve. you can see it continues to go up from the 70s, levelling off lately but levelled in california back in the 70s. that's when we got serious about energy efficiency. i did want to highlight -- >> i want to say in january california adopted a backstop for lighting efficiency. as of january 1st this year, it's the minimum light bulb that can be sold in california, 45. we're going to see a big transition to led's.
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and so california has a unique ability to do that kind of market change. and i think ironically as a trump administration -- it opens up opportunities for us to do that sort of thing more often in the u.s. so senate bill 350, you're probably familiar with that. one of the key mandates is to double the flow of energy efficiency savings in the state. the planning for that is at the energy commission. that's one of the main things that keeps me awake at night. that's what we're doing. again, this is historical electricity consumption in the state per capita. our forecast has it going forward, the little blue line to 2030. the status quo is keeps level. the doubling is going to put us in a rapidly declining per
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capita consumption. that's never been done at any scale. the city of burkely has done something that starts to move the ship. but we are tasked with doing it state-wide. that makes all the other problems smaller including investment in renewables. it's a pretty massive change. we developed some goals, what does it mean? we had to do the math and stakeholder process and came up with the look forward, what does the doubling actually mean? this is where we think the savings are going to come from. this is electricity and gas. you can seeite going to be a big lift. going forward to 2030, all the sources of saving that are going
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to happen, working hard to engage with markets to help accelerate clean technologies more quickly than the status quo is going to naturally do. it's going to require a lot of creativity and rolling up the sleeves and team effort. that's a paradigm at the commission at stage agency, working with local governments like san francisco across the state. we also have the orange ones had assumed fairly aggressive federal efficiency standards for appliances. that's on hold for a couple of years, hopefully it turns back to more of an assertive federal role. when that happens we partner with the feds to share knowledge and move the ball forward.
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historically, you know, we have a lot of savings from all the different categories. we depend on markets to evolve and transform and change and adopt new technologies. we have building standards and appliance standards and again, these are areas -- particularly building standards, these are areas where the local government works hand and glove with the energy commission. san francisco can do a stretch code and learn to do better buildings, we learn from that and figure out what we can require state-wide. the give and take is really key to making progress happen. this is just a slide that demonstrates the revolution that is led lighting. the costs are down tremendously and adoption is through the roof. i mention basically elimination from the market place for the typical lamp categories and we're going to end up with just led's which by the way are a
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better product. they do better lighting and produce less heat and can be designed to do anything you want with lighting. they're superior product but have this fortunate quality to help reach climate goals. the market place is really helping us make that happen. we have a lamp standard in addition to the recent adoption and we have television, the first for televisions and battery charges and they can save a lot of energy if you know how to make the regulation work. so the unit here, the 3,000 mega watt -- giga watt hours by year, there's a unit that was taken through -- art got his
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own unit and associated with one base load power plant and televisions alone, the standard in the state avoided the construction of two plants. energy efficiency works. so total all those for the five power plants we don't have to build. so, we do water savings, we've done a lot of showers, toilets, it's all very sexy what we do. and that's important too and saves the water and pumping and heating that goes into the water. you can see we have industry and agriculture, those are big, process and industrial loads for
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sure. i want to just give everyone a head's up. everybody knows what a zero net energy building is, it produces the same it consumes over the course of the year. as the grid gets cleaner it doesn't matter as much what happens behind the meter, it's about the energy and emissions associated with the energy. so we're developing kind of a plan to move the conversation toward emissions and away from energy per se. so i just want to talk about that, i want to work with san francisco and other like-minded jurisdictions to move the ball on this. so, you know, you think about buildings, most buildings in the state are dual fuel buildings. we could have 100% electricity and still have a lot of emissions and area sources of emissions from all the heating appliances and cooking. that's really the task, how do
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we look for transitions there. bio sources of renewable gas which is part of the conversation. it can help with criteria pollutant of course. zero emission buildings, about half of the energy is associated with natural gas. it's really a goal that really goes beyond straight zero net energy. so this reduce in gas we need policy goals and that's what we're trying to develop with the commission. you know, this is residential, we have water heating, heating, h-vac that are typically done with natural gas now. we need to move over to heat pumps and i don't know if anybody has an induction cook top and i have one and i love
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it. this is a cultural shift we have to go. if you can avoid every single gas use in the house, you don't have to build a gas infrastructure and that's a huge saving, even building it to one appliance is a huge investment. we have to figure out how to move over to the new approach. we want -- the state wants to work with the city to figure out how to make this happen and the zero emissionsbilityings is goi -- emissions buildings is going to be a lead up to the summit climate and a good moment to shift the conversation toward emissions. another advantage it lets us embrace the conversations, you're going to be interested in san francisco, we have a lot of them being vented to the atmosphere and those are worse than straight carbon dioxide. if we can shift, that's a huge deal. and as we get more and more
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efficient buildings, the fridgent piece gets bigger as a percentage. it becomes the main thing we have to work on after five or 10 years. we have to aim where we're going to be in a few years. we want to work with all the cities involved with this to make that happen. refridgeration is a big one there. diverse loads. we need to work on the metrics. how do we measure emissions and gather the data to know where we're going. we have a lot of biggy missions to make sure they have the intended impact and understand the evolution in localities like san francisco and smaller communities to see what's working, what are the trends, what is happening on the ground.
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so with local government, that's critical to making it all work. so, i'm getting close to the end here. i appreciate your patience. we're -- we have a statutory mandate from the legislature to devote action plans to attack our existing buildings. somebody mentioned how difficult the existing buildings are to get at, that's true, but we have to go through the existing buildings to see solutions to get to the goals. it's not easy for new construction but relatively easy. we need to meet people where they are in their buildings and understand what they need and help them adopt clean technologies. the existing buildings are a big deal but we were asked to look at the doubling, that includes new construction, industry, agriculture.
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we're going to fold all this together and have one plan to help layout all the strategies we need and work with local governments to implement them. it's a pragmatic approach. i can give you more information about that. but the strategies that we develop at the energy commission end up from -- they're vetted by a tremendous stakeholder process where we meet all over the place and gather people's views where they are and reflect those in policy. it's going to be key to make that happen. we have a tremendously diverse state. what works in san francisco won't necessarily meet in fresno. we have to meet people all over the state. so the action plan that i just referred to has five overarching
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themes or goals. so you could say government leadership and a big chunk is government leadership is number one. we're doing a lot of data work, industry innovation is really the kind of technology piece of it. the recognized value of efficiency is the communications piece of it. and the work force piece of it as well and then financing. somebody made a comment about the financing industry and they have to come along. there's trillions of dollars on the side lines, who knows what happens going forward with the finance community. there's a lot of cash and it looks for places to invest. we need to give it a value propositi proposition because the pay back is there. we have to learn how to communicate with that part of the economy.
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you're the ones that have to do the climate plan. we don't want to get in the way. so certainly tell us if we're doing that with the regulation or some action that is problematic. we want to help you lead more than that. so we did -- we did a program called the local government challenge, we're hoping this continues with funding from the legislature, once we show how successful it's been. we swept a bunch of stimulus money from way back in the day. i don't know how many remember that, it was horrible for some. we did a competitive grant program to get a few million dollars here and there to progressive local governments to do better -- not really climate planning but work on buildings,
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permitting and tools to help them get to the existing building stock. we did about 10 grants and those are coming through now. and we're going to use them to do -- to get best practices defined. those are the -- that's one set of grants and those are the other grants. all over the state and hoping to learn a lot from them and keep the community going to help going forward. please stand by...
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-- so we now have a couple local jurisdictions with the stretch code. it seems regularly at the business meeting we're getting one or two and the leadership cities are known to the staff and commission and we learn from them and take it into the next update of the building code. so i guess in terms of the understanding the climate emissions piece of it, it's hard to get too granular because the electricity mix is what it is and we're trying to figure out the carbon content of each power mix and map that on in our energy modelling. in terms of where we're going on the data front we'll be able to
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slice and dice in a more exquisite way and we have intellectual capital so we're trying to be leaders and integrate the state. we have a lot of utilities and different jurisdiction overlap in strange ways and we're really the only body that can unify and that's what we're trying to do. >> thank you. commissioner ahn. >> commissioner: thanks again for your presentation. there were repeated