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and not the second story. it's around 3:00 p.m. to 4:00 p.m. in february through the year. so that property got a shadow from the second story in january and august and november, only one hour. and in addition to that, if we propose -- if we add the story story, only one hour for one month, additional shadow will be casted on the property. so it's not that much impact on
it. and also, we did research about the impact of the third addition from the front street and the back street. from the front street, these red lines are the site that you can see. so according to this research, you can see only a bit of the building above, the corner of the building. so we dabble that you can see, you know, the third story from the front street.
but we don't recognise it because of this setback. i did research about the visibility from the backyard, the alley. and according to my research, the elevation angle, the difference between the elevation angle between the second and third story is only 7-degrees. so if we had a third story, our elevation angle differs, increase of only 7-degrees. it's not like 35 or 45. so it's not that much. so based on the research, i concluded that not much skyview is blocked by the audition of the third floor.
i'm the owner of this property and would like to thank you for your time today and would like to mention one thing that there are three story houses in the neighborhoods. on inverness alone, there are four between slote and eucalyptus and there are two on 26 avenue. the reason that they're not noticeable is that it's set up quite nicely and they're not blocking the view. so we believe that adding a third story is not going to be a nuisance in the neighborhood. thank you for your time.
>> are there any members of the public here in support of the project sponsor? seeing none, you have a two-minute rebutle, dr requesters. if the dr requesters, you would each get two minutes for a rebuttal. you don't have to use it project sponsor, you have a two-minute rebuttal. ok, seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner moore? >> i've been looking at the plans of this third-floor addition, and i'm trying to fine the real meaning of it, because the addition proposed for this building is described as a great room, which in terms of how we
norm little describe the use of rooms does not quite -- it's not clear what this room is being used for. so this third floor, it's set back from the street, 20 plus feet consists of a great room, a stair coming up and a very small backroom, powder room. i do know see the necessity, unless someone can describe what it's used for. >> similarly, i don't know what this is. staff have any idea what that usage is? >> i have some personal ideas watcofwhat a great room is. i will allow the opportunity to
the project sponsor of what the use is. >> thank you again. the reason we considered the audition of the third story is that right now my wife and i are getting older and i' my wife is becoming to need assistance. and my daughter will be living with us. so in order for us to live comfortably, even though my daughter is a daughter, but we would like to keep the separate, private living space. and we considered adding or extending the existing first floor but that would ruin our
background, which ibackyard, whs habit and she enjoys it very much and i'm sure our neighbor enjoys the backyard and the yard in the alley. so our only option is to add a smaller addition on the subfloor without causing any layers or additional shadowing on the neighborhood and that's why we deciddecided to go for this. >> sir, i'm not clear, what usage is the great room. >> this would be the living space, living room for my daughter, yes. >> it's a living room, ok. k.
>> commissioner johnson. commissioner fung? >> another question for staff in terms of the residential design team, was there any discussion about setbacks of the rear of the addition? >> no, i don't believe there were. again, primarily, when we were looking at third-story additions, we look at them -- we look at them from both the front and back and sides. this was keepe deemed to be an t not to the ones adjacent because of the ones between those properties, inclusive of the rear yards.
>> commissioner johnson. >> so i do think it's really important to understand the use of this space and i'm glad we had a conversation with the project sponsor. just in having reviewed this and having heard from staff one do think that this project is in keeping with what we normally see and so i'm in support of the project and move to approve -- not take dr and approve. >> i'm second. i'll second. >> seeing nothing further, there's a motion that has been soutbeenseconded. (roll call). >> so moved, commissioners and that passes 5-0.
commissioners, this will place us on item 11 to 2018-10 >> good afternoon. david winslow, planning staff, architect, the item is a public initiated request for a review of public application 2018-0681-022 for a horizonal rear addition and two-story vertical addition for a total of 3430 square feet to an existing two-story single family dwelling to add two new dwelling unis at units at33 capra. there's light and shadow impacts, loss of privacy with the surrounding neighborhood character. not the building's historic resource status is a category c.
the first dr requester, joshua callahan at 49 capra way is concerned with four main issues that the building is out of character and scale with the surrounding for the following reasons, that the rear massing is not combatable a compatible r and it's incompatible with the block face and roof deck will create noise impact. the second dr requester of 222, that it ignores the historical relevance as a contributor to the residential historic district and two, that the heightheheight and bulk is out l
and the determination of rear yard averaging were done and lead to a larger building footfingerprint than would be allowed and fourth, the impacts to his property, as well as privacy and noise impacts from the roof deck. his alternatives include preserving the facade, setting back the third story an additional 12 feet, reducing building height to three stories and maintaining a shared light well between 33 and 39 capra. today the department has received four letters in opposition and eight letters in support. i'm sure more have arrived on your desk since the publishing of this packet. however, the residential design review found the property is a category a -- i'm sorry, i have to revise that. it was listed as an a due to its
location within an identified sequa district. the eligible marina corporation residential historical district but determined not to be individually eligible historic resource but a contributor to the district. although the alterations are major, it did not appear to have an impact on that district and the reservation was not recommended, nor required. two, that the adjacent four-story building and other three-story buildings enabled the massing this addition to meet the four-story height of the transition down to the two-story building immediately to its west. the shape and proportion of the bay proportion represents a scale at the street. third, the rear massing transitions from the building to the shallower shadow building to
west from adjacent properties. the main rear wall of the building has been reduced by one foot, three inches to respond to the career measurement of rear yard averaging. the light well at 39 capra appears to have been filled in with a skylight. the department does not typically require a matching condition to such lightwells that have been altered. five, did not see any extraordinary impacts with respect to light and air due to the passing of this building. the roof deck is served by one step warehouse. therefore, staff recommends not talking dr and approving the project. this concludes my presentation and i'm here to answer questions. thank you.
>> contrary to what you may here in a few minutes, i'm not anti-housing or family housing. in fact, i'm in favour of these goals and support 33 capra way to be converted to a three-story building. the project will not have a material impact on me personally, but these averrings are irrelevant. we're here to decide if this is appropriate for the block and neighborhood or extraordinary for its context, setting a par example for any future development. as proposed, 33 capra is extraordinary, it pushes the massing to code extremes in every dimension. there's a roof deck, almost no front setback on the fourth floor and minimum rear yard
setback and each is this direct contrast to the precedent in the neighborhood on this block. as someone raising my family here, i believe those who have behaved ibehaved in the communin past, will forefit that and made more urgent by 39 capra to be redeveloped by whatever guidelines that. fortunate, there are simple steps. they will bring this into an established design patterns, work with neighbors and allow it to move forward quickly.
it will create a meaningful bridge by requiring eight feet here and there will be 1,000 square feet for a two-bedroom family unit to go along with four unit for the lower floors and crucially, a fourth floor setback allows for additional outdoor space on the roofdeck. third, we encourage planning staff to revisit, allowing 25 25 capra to allow for a setback. 33 is an existing outlier to the midspace. finally, i believe process and conduct matters. it has been disheartening that the reasonable concerns with harassing phone calls and threats with re retribution. rather than calling me personally, they attempted to turn this into a professional
embarrassment by calling the ceo of my employer to suggest retribution including opposition to future work my employer may have the city suggesting an eye for an eye, regardless of a project's context. that conduct, like the design, is indeed extraordinary and should be modified before the commission moves password. thank yoforward.thank you for yd consideration.
depicts a block with an open space. the only exception is 2 25 25 c. this provides much needed light and vegetation and needs to be preserved for all of the surrounding residents. this is a rendering of the proposal next to the only outliar which is 25 capra. section 25-b, major light and air impact. the proposed project will block nine windows on the southwest side of 25 spaw 25 capra. proposed project will block 100% of the light to the shared light well, turning their kitchen into a cave. number three, proposed project will have further light and air impact on 10, 45, 49 and
51 caprap. privacy from a ra roof deck and most are in three-story buildings. four-story decks are seldom seen, requiring an open staircase for access, further adding bulk in height. this is an element that in reality given the san francisco weather will get very little use, but it will increase the price of the unit. this is a prime example of a massive allowed and built roof deck and it's on a third story. imagine if this was on a four-story. this is across the block and section three, in or for the project to move forward, we're asking the commissioner require the following. number one, preserve the historic facade, restoring and enhancing th intrinsic featuresd
incorporate three setbacks between 33 and 25 capra. building not to exceed three story and number five, eliminate the fourth floor roof deck. number six, preserve the shared light well between 33 and 39 capra and thank you for your consideration and uncouplin und. >> any members of the public in support of the dr requesters? come on up? >> good afternoon commissionerrerings. we own the property at 45 capra way. we listened to the neighbors and proceeded in a way that respected all concerns. we set back our fourth floor by 15 feet to comply visually with
deny the plans for the roof deck to not set an unhealthy rest sent for the neighborhood and muminimize the impact. have the rear setback guidelines that are consistent with the overwhelming majority of the units and protect the mid-block open space and i would like to add that we have engaged the developer to having an in-person meeting but found him to be dismissive, arrogant and sanctimonious. aheahe tried to bully his way io getting what he wants with no
regard for the neighbors of the neighborhood. i hope you rule in a strong message discouraging that behaviour because there is no need for that. thank you for your time and consideration. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> gad afternoon, commissioners. i'm with the san francisco coalition. we're not objecting to the three units, we're ok, bring on more density, but not ok to deface a contributor to the marina corporation historic district and a mass massive scale of ths project is problematic. you can build these three units without the historic correcter. the hre itself, it clearly states that this building maintains the integrity of
design and it's an authentic architecture and does have an authentic architecture. again, this is the hra statement here and has been unaltered since it's construction in 1926. with the sole exception of the sunroom added in 1933. even the staff agrees with the hre in a sense that the subject property is a contributor to the marina corporation residential historic district as mr. winslow previously attested. so i suppose my question is, why is it that the project sponsor could not have added the vert cavertical addition by retaining the facade. we see this day and day out. many, many projects that, you know, do vertical additions and maintain the facade or even if they do make vertical additions with a new structure and new facade, they have a front setback.
so that is quite unusual for us to see that this beauty, this is a contributor to the historic resource and does have its twin next door being defaced and not existing with vertical conditions that start with the front setback. and also, as mr. frankle pointed out, it is the prevailing pattern in the marina, where you would have taller buildings and corner streets and then shorter buildings in between. so this is going to set a domino effect. if this structure will go on at the same height as the corner building, obviously we'll have more and more of this as the time goes by. lastly, i would like to speak a few words about the character of the project sponsor and the owners. the project sponsor all along maintains that the yard averaging that he was doing was correct. even though he could not use the
sunroom of the adjacent neighbor, because it wasn't half the width of the lot. even the staff pointed this out to them, but they maintained that until mr. frankle did the measurement and brought that up and that's when they backed off. of course, you heard about how the owner was making intimidating remarks and calling the employer of one of the dr requesters. this is not acceptable. please acts foplease ask for ref scale. >> any more public comment for dr requesters? >> good afternoon. my name is al brandy, a 44-area resident in the marina, in close proximity to this project. as i sit here listening to these discretionary review requests, i see a common theme. the common theme seems to be big development versus the established nakeds.
neighborhoods. i think there's nothing wrong with development. i think we have to develop as a city. but when people propose the development as proposed in this case, that so radically changes the character of the neighborhood, i call upon you to do something about this and stop it. what i think we need is some kind of compromise. there must be development but there must be a respect for the neighborhood as it exists. in this project, where the proposal is for maximum coverage, maximum extension, maximum density, the addition of 3400 square feet is no minor request. it is massive development. there could be a cro com row co, allow the development and keeping the neighbor for as it
a large single family house or two large duplexes would have idead a better return. it's between a four-story 17-unit building to the east and two-story single family house to west. i'm sorry, were we given twice as much time because there's two drs? >> in this case, no. >> i'll truncate this. both of the immediate neighbors are supportive of the project and along with the western neighbor's letter of support, we have 29 off additional letters of support for the project. of the eight properties along the block face, five are four stories tall, one is three stories and with our project side in the western neighbor in support being two story, the proposed project will create three units, two smaller on the new third and fourth floors at 1500 square feet and 1300 fear
quot1300 squarefeet respectivel. the project includes an horizonal expansion to the roar. rear. changes have been substantial and this is due to the request which changes the project over five times. we've also removed 570 square feet of the hubble space. we did meet with dr requesters on may 3 and met with david winslow and josh callahan. we had a very good conversation with them. but at that meeting with david winslow, we spoke about what his concerns were and one was actually that he was asking for a setback at the front of eight feet and described to hu him tht and that would remove one of the bedrooms from the unit. we felt this requested served no
purpose, especially since he lives three properties down. secondly, there has been concerns over his request about the roof deck, of removal or actually we then talked to hum about, is there a way to alter or address the issues about the roof deck? he did say he would be willing to consider removing the dr if we made the deck exclusively to the top unit and if we set it back from the back three feet. mind you it's eight feet on one side, five feet from the other and close to, i believe, 35 feet from the front line and we described the reason which is basically because the unit is so small and three stories up from the backyard, we would like to make this of unit viable for a young family. the current deck off the living room is big enough for a dining
room table. we thought we had a deal but he removed that. hour, our clients are committed to those changes in the commission so sees fit. some of the other concerns about the scale and size, we've included that in the package to address they and there's no precedent for the setting this project, because 25 capra is extremely large. we do not exceed the height as someone mentioned here. the mid-block open space due to 25 capra again is not affected by this project. the preservation of the facade
housing. ever since they delay code projects, this makes them more expensive and makes people harder to find homes. before coming home here, i looked to see how long this project has been this andly keg witin and blue applicationwith . we need to make it easier, not harder, for people to build housing, encouraging homeowners or developers that every time of unit to the housing stock of san francisco, not discourage them but encourage them for maximizinmaximizing density. if this keeps getting delayed, my generation will be urged out of the city. i urge to approve this project as is. >> next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners, corey smith on behalf of the san francisco housing koa lugs.
coalition. we tend to not doing anything under ten units but we know the project team really, really well and we just want to express our support for knowing that they to go about business the right way. they talk to people and i understand you have plenty of support from adjacent neighbors in your packets that indicate that they have talked to the communitcommunity members aroun. we love a situation where everybody is supportive of the new housing and that's ideal for everybody, but we know that's not the case here today. i do want to touch base about this environment and the need for changes kind of going forward. like many, we saw the 730 project put out there, the housing on community development and as ashberry is my neighborhd and we'll be encouraging the amount of density, height and
homes. it will be the biggest building in the neighborhood and stand out right now and over time, it will fit with the fabric of the neighborhood and as time passes, it will be an obvious addition to the neighborhood. the city changes and the city is built, quite frankly, as a 100-year-old city with a lot of wood and that is not made to last forever. we are a city with a lot of fog and rain. so we have to change the city and went we do that, adding more housing makes a difference. adding more homes for people makes a duf. difference. we don't have a formal position on this project but we understand changes are needed and encourage you to make a thoughtful decision. thank you. >> next speaker, please.
>> there's a real estate processer himself going through this change and the hippocracy is the reason i came hear. the man in san francisco has been out shipping 9-1 for many years and disputing projects is adding to the costs of housing if san francisco which, in turn, making it impossible for me to afford a home. i hope the commission listens to my generation and approves this project. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> you've been a resident of san francisco all my life. i know how much we need new housing. i urge you to approve the proposed design as is. i also read the discretionary review materials and it's admirable to what the owner has done.
iduring my childhood, i had a roof deck and i know how important it is. it offered a sense of unique play space for us. i also add mayor that the building is three units rather than one or two. so it has potential to offer it to three families in a great neighborhood. we need all of the new housing we can get. thank you. i've been given texts on behalf of my supporters. >> you can submit them. >> next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm la laura foot. this is a zoning-compliant
project. i shouldn't have to say anything else. this is a zoning compliant project. i understand why neighbors complain and after a area, they felt the response got a little arrogant because this is a zoning-compliant project. if we agonize over zoning-compliant projects like this, we are never going to be capable of producing housing at the scale that we need to be doing it. you all have sat through miserable drs today. they were not so fun. this one is not so fun. worse, they are extremely inefficient. this is a zoning compliant project, taking a one unit building, turning into a
three-unit building. the rules should be the rules. if we don't like what the zoning is and we want there to be dust setbacks or different requirements on light, that's fine, just change the rule, but agonizing over every decision in this matter and making it personal. we have dragged the neighbors into a place where now they all hate each other. this is not a healthy way to run our society. the rules should be the rules and we shouldn't have to do this. and so, it's your job to look at the paper and say, is this a zoning-compliant project and if yes, approve it.
we don't need to have a big song and dance and discussion. we just need to approve zoning compliant housing. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> thank you. ily on chestnut and my son has a business on chestnut. so i walk passed there a lot. i think the argument that it's contributing much to the historic character is not a strong one. it's lacking some sensitivity. it's an ugly building. but i have four kids, off raised in san francisco and all went to school here and i hope the commission can find a way to move this forward and help to create housing. one of my sons is struggling so hard to fin find a place and my other son moved to san diego. if you can help the housing crisis ease by letting a project
like this go ahead, it will be an enormous help to the city and children born here. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> i do support the project. i'm pleased it provides three units, three bedrooms,ing and outdoor space and units of this nature are perfect for young families. so this unit does address a critical housing need. regarding the design and massing, both discontinue and dg are propose for a site on a block that has four-story buildings on both sides of the street as depicted in the information supported by the architect. the property is a deep lot with
minimal impact on the open space. from my inspector perspective, a nice job assessing the project against the city's residential design guidelines, which is the framework that should be assessed. and the other thing i would observe is the abutting neighbors on the east and west seem to support the project. it seems the planning department was constructive in terms of bringing people together in an inherently process that we have.
i just want to say that intend no disrespect to my neighbors who have concerns and issues about it. it's a small neighborhood and we pass each other so i want to acknowledge to disrespect against their viewpoints and the comments and concerns that they have. so personally, i believe it's appropriate to approve the project. thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> i'm in support of this project. we need a lot more housing in the city. this doesn't consolidate lots so it should be approved right away. and right now, in the excelsior
homes are selling over a million dollars because there's not enough housing for places like the marina. so to have this proposal to increase housing in the marina completely in the law, it should be a no-brawne no-brainer. thank you. >> thank you. >> i would like to start off by saying the public sponsor has done approximately 50 projects in san francisco in the neighborhoods, 50 opportunities for hand-to-hato-hand combat. that, plus the fact he has two additional -- has the support of his two neighbors and 30 letters to support affects volumes to
his architect and his eagerness to please and work with his neighbors. there are two drs here today. this asked to remove the top floor and that's completely inconsisinconsistent with what s talks about. look at the size of the third bedroom, look at the size of that. it's a small bedroom. the next concern is the roof top deck. despite the sponsor has made numerous concessions to this deck and roof-top decks are important to family housing and family living. the project sponsor is
suggesting we can do this with cc & rs and that wasn't good enough. he went to rescene th resign the so now only top-floor people can use that deck. and he wasn't happy. he wanted the roof deck eliminated. this deck is well-lined. eight-foot sidebacks off the property line. a stair house, recessed staircase, all block the visual line of sight between the users of this deck and these yards. there will not be a visual impact from this deck to these neighbors. now we should not eliminate roof decks just because they're a roof deck.
when there's good design, roof decks should be approved, especially when there's no impact to the neighbors. thank you. >> thank you. any more members of the public wish to comment in support of the project sponsor? >> seeing none, public comment is closed. i just wanted to say -- i'm sorry. dr requester, you have a two-minute rebuttal. >> i am friends with my neighbor and just now friends with the developer who will never lou here and just to clarify, a lot has been raised about the two neighbors. 25 capra is owned by a large institution and some are controversial and so as such, it decided it cannot oppose a developer or project regardless of the merits of the case and
39 capra who has tol told us its waiting to follow precedent and in their case, they look at future development and that makes it all the more important of what's happening to 33 capra because it will be followed next door. my presence here today is not about the impacts but affecting everything in the neighborhood and just happening to be carrying that forward today. thank you. >> dr requester number two. >> i would like to just make two comments. this is about a lot of people who calm here in support of the project. these are going to be luxury condos and none of you that supported the project in front of the commissioner will b comme to afford it. number two, why is this project
dragging so long? i've bee participating since maf 2018 and along with several of the neighbors that have lived in the neighborhood for decades. he never took it seriously. thank you. >> project sponsor, you have a two-minute rebuttal. >> i'm glad that is not personal for mr. callahan. mr. callahan did lie us to alloo
take a photo, because we are, as architects, trying to be as responsible as possible to understand what it might be. luckily, he has the lower unit with this great landscaping. as i said in regards to the changes that we had discussed, our clients are stilling to incorporate this if they the commissioner sees fit. if they were willinwe believe tr units, one is 1300 square feet and the other is 1500 square
feet and we believe it's not outsized but what the commission has asked us to try to do and encourage our clients who are developers to do and what the mayor wants us to do. i request that you do not talk the department dr and approve s submitted. >> we have 30 letters of support, printed for the commission. >> lastly, i did want to say if the proposed changes are of interest, you did not have dr for us to do that because we would -- for example, if we can get dvu to -- >> thank you, out of time. >> sorry, i didn't realize. >> we are tripling the units here and i don't want us to lose
a unit and i think that the architect actually did a good job stepping from the taller building down to the lower building. commissioner? >> thi would agree with many of the speakers both for and against that this is the project we should look for, dens densification in areas that don't allow for it. i think the project works and should be commended. we should ask about this, instead of two units that are three stories tall, we're getting three great appropriate units for in thund. so the question just comes down to the roof deck.
is offered in west or -- in what mr. lum showed us. we would have to take d.r. and approve with those changes, but that is where i would go. >> does that also apply to the possible elimination of the penthouse? >> if it is feasible to eliminate, you can go forward. >> it could be contingent upon building department allowing that. >> so we would acknowledge the pursuit of that penthouse being removed. we can't dictate it given tbi's concerns, but -- >> is uncertain at this point whether it is allowed by d.b.i. i think this is where mr. lum was trying to finish his thought if it could be done, it doesn't need to be considered in your decision because it is reductive from what was originally noted. >> i move to take d.r., reduce the roof deck