tv Police Commission SFGTV January 13, 2022 7:00am-10:01am PST
501 -- >> clerk: thank you, caller. good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: good evening, police commissioners. to continue plate the use of force policy tonight, i ask you whether or not it's in line with what's in state and the rest of the country, whether it's in line with the rest of the civilized world. in britain, a man can be running with a machete down the street and be arrested without harm to the police officers or to the man. we can all know that regardless of the use of force policy tonight, we're still not going to live in the city as safe as the u.k. whereas they shoot about as many people in a decade as we do in our state on a yearly basis with our police.
so what we need to recognize is that our use of force policy still needs serious work and our implementation of it is still uncivilized. this isn't first world, this isn't first class, and it's got a long way to go. it's still an implementation of justice meaning much to be desired. we should look to europe and we should find a way to disarm our police. >> clerk: thank you, caller. and that concludes public comment, president cohen. >> president cohen: thank you. i'll make a motion to accept department general order 5.01, the use of force policy and
>> president cohen: thank you. please call item 8. >> clerk: item eight. discussion and possible action to adopt the revised department general order 6.09, "domestic violence" and domestic violence manual. meet and confer draft was approved by the commission on january 13, 2021. discussion and possible action. >> president cohen: who would like to begin discussion on this? >> vice president elias: i was going to ask that we -- since the draft that we adopted last week has been adopted that meet and confer requirements. my understanding is that there were some subsequent changes that were -- that happened or were going to be made and so i have asked that those changes be inputted into a new document along with some of the changes that the d.a. is requesting as
well and that also be sent to meet and confer and come back to us for adoption when ready. >> president cohen: all right. that sounds great, like a plan. before we take action on that motion that you just made, let's go ahead and take public comment. >> vice president elias: before that, president cohen, i think the chief wanted to weigh in on 6.09 as well. >> president cohen: my apologies. chief, please. >> thank you, vice president and madam president. i just wanted to acknowledge all the hands and people that worked on this policy and i had the opportunity to sit in some of the work group meetings and hear the input on that. there's too many names, but some names that are prominent including our district attorney's office, our public defender's office. beverly upton and all the crew that she works with and many others. i just wanted to personally
thank them for this work. there's a lot to this policy and the manual is very comprehensive. we will have to allow time to train officers and make sure we do our best. but there were a lot of people and a lot of work that went into this and i just want to thank everybody who had a part in this. maryanne who is no longer with d.p.a. but a lot of people. too many to rattle off all the names. if i missed your name, thank you for working with us on this and, with that, i think all the changes have already been discussed, but there are a lot of changes, a lot of enhancements, a lot more direction and it is a very comprehensive manual that will only make us better. we have to train and make sure we implement this the right way and give officers the time to process all this information. it will get better. so thank you all, thank you all
the commissioners. thank you to the commissioners who retired. they were involved as well. >> vice president elias: president cohen, may i say a few words. from 2016 to 2020, city agencies and community-based organizations on several working groups and collaborated to improve sfpd's response to domestic violence calls, we are thrilled with the new d.g.o.6.09. d.p.a. would like to thank our own. we'd like to thank sfpd and the special victims unit, beverly upton and the domestic violence consortium. this is a critical role and
calls for service and the on-scene preservation of evidence. which will prevent viblgts from being misidentified as the perpetrator. it ensures that people on scene will be given language access for deficiency. it provides guidance for interviewing children and obtaining emergency protective orders. provides guidance on interacting with transgender, gender variant, and nonbinary individuals. importantly, it requires first responders to complete an assessment at the scene. it requires a level of assessment. as we know, some types of domestic violence are risk indicators for homicide. this will be required and it is best practices and so
important. bottom line, the d.g.o. and manual will save countless lives. we are so grateful to come to fruition and we're so grateful for the finish line and everyone who has been in this long process. >> president cohen: thank you very much. i appreciate that comment and quite frankly, it anchors us in history and where we've come and where we've gotten today. that's really important to acknowledge all the people that have had their hands on this d.g.o. and i don't see any other names. yes, mr. hamasaki. >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you, ms. cohen. yeah. i wanted to join in to thank everybody who has worked on this and i think all the names that have already been mentioned are a pretty comprehensive list and i wanted to clarify with vice president
elias, what was the [ indiscernible ] i understand there was some additions that commissioner carter-oberstone added, grammatical and substantive. >> vice president elias: yeah. with respect to the 6.09 that we adopted last week, that is good to go. the substantive changes that commissioner carter-oberstone had will be merged into a new document that will then go to meet and confer if it is subject to meet and confer. once that happens, it will then come back to us for adoption because we don't want to hold up this d.g.o. anymore because of the great work product that has been produced thus far. that's going to become in effect relatively soon as soon
as our officers are trained and then the other additions that were made will come back to us hopefully soon. our labor negotiator is working on that and will get back to us. >> commissioner hamasaki: great. just because things got a little confusing last week, i really do want to thank everybody that's worked on this. you know, before i joined the commission, i represented a woman cecilia lamb who was killed by a domestic abuser and had called for help multiple times in san francisco and the abuser ended up killing her. it was a very -- the chronicle did a wonderful piece on it, but it really motivated me and inspired me to understand really how serious this issue is and the gravity with which i think we all have to approach
this. so i'm happy with the final results and look forward to the officers being trained and hopefully creating a safer environment for everybody in san francisco. >> president cohen: all right. thank you. seeing no other names on the roster, let's go ahead and go to public comment, please. >> clerk: if you would like to make public comment regarding line item eight, please dial star three. >> caller: i'm on. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: good evening, commissioners and friends. this is beverly upton from the san francisco domestic violence consortium. i just really want to appreciate this thoughtful process. i think we're moving in the right direction and i know we'll all be back here soon with something we can be really
proud of. in the meantime, the training is starting, work is starting and, of course, the list is long, but liz tarkey, tony flores, sam aamaron. d.p.h.. police chief. d.o.s.w., department on the status of women. family violence council. justice and courage and the beloved d.v. community doing the legal services 24 hours a day. we are all counting on you. survivors are counting on you and i'm so excited to see this moving forward. thank you. >> clerk: thank you, caller. all right. thank you. >> president cohen: thank you very much. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: hello. >> clerk: good evening caller.
you have two minutes. >> caller: good evening. i'm the new managing attorney of the domestic violence and i want to echo upton's words. i understand that this has been very long in the coming. it is an excellent d.g.o.. i want to thank her very much as well as inspector tony flores and i look forward to working with the officers and training on all of the wonderful department general order policies. thank you. >> clerk: thank you, caller. and, president cohen, that concludes public comment. >> president cohen: thank you very much for calling in. i think we're all on the same page now. thank you for your contribution on this dgo. so if i'm not mistaken, i
believe commissioner elias made a motion and i'd like to second that motion. and let's call the role. >> clerk: yes, ma'am. [roll call] president cohen, you have a unanimous vote. >> president cohen: awesome. thank you. progress. let's keep moving. call item number nine please. >> clerk: line item nine, discussion and possible action to adopt revised department general order 3.01. discussion and possible action.
>> president cohen: all right. >> so just for the record, department general order is department written directive. colleagues, do any of you have any questions? i'm sure there's some discussion on this one. commissioner elias, i'll start with you. >> vice president elias: thank you, i appreciate it. you know, this is a long time in the making. this first started off with commissioner taylor who wanted to expedite the process in which the d.g.o.s come to us so that we can start revising several of the d.g.o.s that hasn't been revised since the 90s. we developed that process since that time and have created a policy that i think is going to be very beneficial to us. it seems that there's a lot of misconceptions about this new d.g.o. that i'd like to take a
moment to clear up. this new d.g.o. will streamline the process in terms of how d.g.o.s are created and submitted to the commission. it will make it faster in terms of getting these d.g.o.s to us so that we can pass and be up to speed with language and trends that are happening in the community as well as con forting with the 21st century policing intentions and initiatives. this process also creates a level of transparency that hasn't been here before. it also has mechanisms of accountability so that these dgos that often time go and linger in space, that's no longer going to happen because we have a timeline in which these things need to happen and we have individuals or people that we can hold accountable when that's not happening. we also have mechanisms built into the d.g.o.s so that stakeholders and people who
have invested their time and effort into this process will now be informed of what's happening rather than hearing it when it's agendaized before the commission. there's a few improvements that i would like to really highlight. number one is the recommendation grid. so unlike the old process, what will now happen. there are three ways that a d.g.o. can be initiated either through the department, d.p.a. or the commission. this d.g.o. does not in any way create new powers or vest new powers in the commission or the d.p.a. so i would like that all to stop right here. what happens is that when we get these d.g.o.s, there will now be a recommendation grid that will accompany these d.g.o.s to the commission and the recommendation grid will have all of the input from the public, from the stakeholders, from department members, from d.p.a. and from individuals that have worked on this
including subject matter experts in the department. so when it comes to the police commission, we can see what the recommendations are from all these various entities and this is going to help us as a commission because as you know, we're tasked with creating the policy and in order for us to do that, we need to be well informed of what's happening. this process also allows the community and stakeholders to come to the table. this doesn't mean that just because the community or stakeholders are participating or d.p.a. is participating that we automatically will be adopting all these recommendations. what it means is they're going to provide us their unique perspective and their experiences so when we do create this policy, we have a more well rounded policy than just from one point of view. i think this is important because now when we have a d.g.o., we will be posting it on the website, the police
department website and we will be giving time, 30 days to allow the public and department members of the actual police department an opportunity to comment on these d.g.o.s before we pass any policy. this is really important because we could write the best policy in the world, but if our rank and file and if officers have to write this policy don't do it, it means nothing. so i think by creating this opportunity, it allows us to solicit feedback from the actual rank and file and members in the department of the policies who aren't necessarily in the working groups or have a direct say in some of the policies that are being moved forward. this also includes the public because it's very important for the public to see what we're doing and allowing them the opportunity to comment as well. once those comments are made, we will then receive hem and as a commission be able to
consider and recommendations we will not be. which allows more accountability when people take the time to invest and participate in this process that we inform them of what's happening so that when the d.g.o. comes up for review or agendaized, they will be notified. the other. so i think those are pretty much the highlights. i want to thank all of the individuals who participated in this specifically. phil lowhouse and sergeant killshaw who took an onerous task to try to get this document ready because it's very dense and it has a lot of processes. so, again, we tried to streamline it. the department, of course, the chief, deana and d.p.a. and
janel kaywood who were instrumental in moving this forward. so those are some of the main highlights that i'd like to share with my colleagues at this time. i'd like to pass it over to commissioner carter-oberstone, or you, president cohen. >> president cohen: i will speak after carter-oberstone, the floor is yours. >> commissioner: you know, i think vice president elias was pretty comprehensive. i really don't have much to add. i guess i'll just respond to something that. >> vice president elias: liedz already touched on i think. our friends in the san francisco police officer pride alliance sent us a letter expressing some concerns about this current version and i just wanted to disspell those concerns because they're based
on two key misconceptions. the where the commission pass d.g.o.s on its own. because the language of the complaint of is already in the current version of 3.01 that's been governing this commission for the last two and a half years. and that's on page two of the current version of 3.01. and if that weren't enough, then the charter gives us the permission to develop tasking shares by any process that it sees fit. so even without this language, the commission will always retain the ability to retain flexibility and dexterity and how all these regulations. so that's number one. the idea that this is new it's just not correct.
and then our friends also moment that this will somehow cut out subject matter experts and will develop in policies that don't reflect best practices and of course that's [ indiscernible ] because there's two separate public comment periods built into the process. the first is where as vice president elias said, both the department and d.p.a. and any interested member of the public can comment on the commission's first draft and after that, the commission has an opportunity to respond to those comments and incorporate those comments and make any amendments before engaging in yet a second public comment period that will last 30 business days where the public can once again comment on the resolution. so there's just nothing about this process that won't result in policies that are not evidence-based and supported by best practices. so i just wanted to address those kind of misconceptions.
>> president cohen: thank you, commissioner, carter-oberstone. you've definitely come in with great expertise. one thing i want to just acknowledge before i call on commissioner hamasaki is that the item that we're going to be moving this d.g.o. version for purposes of meet and confer. it's important that i read that into the record and everyone is on the same page and that i understand this. with that said. >> commissioner hamasaki: commissioner hamasaki i think i saw your hand up. >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you, president cohen. has this been posted to the commission? i don't know if it was all of us. >> president cohen: which letter are you referring to? you're talking about from the contingent? >> commissioner hamasaki: yes. is that posted or is that just
-- >> vice president elias: i think they may have posted it. i'm not sure. >> commissioner hamasaki: okay. >> vice president elias: we just got it a couple hours before the commission meeting started. >> commissioner hamasaki: okay. yeah. i just want to add and say a quick thank you to commissioner elias and everybody that worked on this, you know, policy making is the core duty of the commission. it's not the department's decision, it's not d.p.a., it's the commission's. and i think that the commission will be taking a much more active role in shepherding and controlling policy through enactment. i don't know, i haven't seen the substance of the objection but it's found extremely
misinformed because it's early in the province of this commission what policies are enacted. the commission can form working groups and enact policies on our own which we would not do because we always bring in stakeholders and subject matter experts. so thank you for all your hard work and i look forward to beginning these and commission working groups soon. >> president cohen: all right. chief, mr. henderson, do either of you want to make comments on this? >> i do, president cohen. director henderson, i'll go after you. >> president cohen: and janel. we're going to hear from ms. kenwood first and then we'll hear from director henderson and then the chief. >> thank you. commissioner elias highlighted
the key portions of this policy. as background in 2016, the department of justice advised sfpd and d.p.a. to work more collaboratively together and to develop a more nimble and efficient process for updating, revising and initiating department general orders. the new 3.01 is the department's latest and most significant step in fulfilling those recommendations. i just want to be clear it creates a framework for d.p.a. and sfpd to work best together and develop policies that align with best practices which is so important given the national conversation around policing and police reform. this d.g.o. is important because the rules have been put in place to prevent d.g.o.s from a particular stage. we're excited about the public comment provision. you know, i just want to point out that the public comment period will be at the beginning of the d.g.o. development
process. so we'll hear from the community. we'll hear from sfpd personnel about their thoughts and opinions and recommendations at an earlier stage so we can get them into the d.g.o. because it's so important to create policies that our department can stand behind and also reflect our community values. and on behalf of d.p.a., we appreciate chief scott and the department's willingness to take this collaborative step in the 21st century policing principles. we thank you. we'd also like to thank vice president elias for her tremendous leadership through this process. we look forward to the vote tonight and wholeheartedly urge the commission to approve 3.01. >> president cohen: thank you, we're going to hear from director henderson and the chief. >> director: i have to say what she said. i'm going to bow to the left and say 'what janel said.'
to the san francisco police department however they choose to do so. the d.g.o.s for the department to have structure and order and the commission is not bound by our d.g.o.s definite policy and i want to make sure that everybody understand that and i also want to thank commissioner carter-oberstone. what he has put into this really kind of emphasizes that but it also goes beyond what the charter said but it also gives the police department, the chief of police and d.p.a. the ability to give input and feedback to any policies that the commission implements. that goes beyond what the charter calls for. the commission does not have to do that. so this process is meant to make us better and we -- i know i've personally received a great deal of feedback from community members who were
somewhat frustrated with their participation and work groups and either we didn't get back to them to let them know if their recommendations were being implemented or just communication breakdowns and that wasn't the case in all cases, but there's enough of that that that had to be addressed and this policy does address that and i think it addresses it very well and turns out the requirements to get back with people to let them know their input, what has been accepted and not accepted and if not why and i think that's going to make us better and i think that's going to make us a more inclusive police department with the public service and i think this is a great policy addition in my opinion. so two people i'd like to thank for giving us the feedback and the insight, the bar association was the stakeholder that works with us often. the league of women voters. the bias policing working group. the community policing working group. d.p.a., public defender us
office, individual members across communities from san francisco. the cpac, the community police advisory boards and its members. we have had a lot of people to give us input and that input has informed what's in this policy. and i know the public doesn't get to hear that input, but i'm here to say that this policy is very responsive to a lot of what we've been told we need to get better at and i truly believe this policy will help us get there. thank you to all that have worked on this and i encourage the adoption of this policy to go to meet and confer. >> president cohen: excellent. thank you very much, chief. i appreciate you reading that and just saying that on the record. vice president elias, is there some information from the attorney that needs to be read into the record. >> vice president elias: yes. my apologies. there is one change that i wanted to make on the
d.g.o.3.01. it's regarding the meet and confer process. this sentence was included in section a -- wait. section 3.01.03 under the department notices. we moved that to a new section and it's going to be off but it's going to be a new section entitled 3.01.00 which talks about the meet and confer process and the language that i'm asking to be adopted is meet and confer process. all written materials including but not limited to dgos that address matters that are within the member scope of representation must comply with the meet and confer process. so we basically just moved that
sentence for the meet and confer process versus the department bulletin. >> president cohen: thank you. all right. seeing there's no discussion, let's go ahead and hear from the public and hear their thoughts. please call the public comment. >> clerk: if you would like to make public comment regarding line item nine, dgo .3.01 please dial star three now. >> caller: the way i look at this is chronologically, we need to address the injustice done to the first people. the injustice done to the chinese community. to the japanese community, to the black community, none of this is incorporated in your
decision making and ya'll are so shallow that ashamed. not educated on issues. most though because here, there, and everywhere. that includes also the various segment's of the populations which ya'll give titles to. all human beings, but treated in a different way. i'm counting this every day on the street. people are trying to abuse somebody and then when i step up, they say, oh, i didn't mean to say that. yes, you meant to say that. ya'll have no clue what is happening in san francisco. no clue whatsoever. so chronologically our universities, be it the
university of san francisco [ indiscernible ] college, other experts of the constitution, they have to participate. you guys, you the so-called san francisco police commission don't even know what your mission objective. you should start your meetings by reading a mission objective. the mission objective is so outdated that ya'll should revamp and understand and have a checklist when ya'll come up with this type of suggestion. thank you very much. >> clerk: thank you, caller. good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: thank you for your time. please include this recommendation if you have that recommendation grid. any policies being created resulted in the answer of yes
when the following question is applied to the draft language and objective. i like that idea of having the objectives there. does the language in any proposed written directive support the police department's efforts in the goal of preventing crime and criminals from breaking the law in san francisco. if the answer is 'no' then the new language does not help reduce the crime ewe in san francisco. intying the hands and the
police department thank you to the men and women of the police department who will always make a difference. we appreciate you. god bless. thank you. >> clerk: thank you, caller. and, president cohen, that concludes public comment. >> president cohen: all right. thank you. i appreciate that. okay. let's go back to the business before this body. is there a motion to yet for item nine. >> vice president elias: i'd like to make a motion to pass d.g.o.3.01 with the direction of the police commission staff to work with the attorney's department to correct any nonsubstantive errors and to the extent that this d.g.o. requires meet and confer and report back to the commission
on february 1st. january 19th. i'm sorry. our next commission meeting. >> president cohen: february 2nd. >> vice president elias: okay. >> commissioner hamasaki: can i ask a question of clarification, president cohen? >> president cohen: yes. >> commissioner hamasaki: so, vice president elias, when you say that about making nonsubsive changes are you talking about grammatical spelling, things that commissioner carter-oberstone, not adding in a new line here or there. >> vice president elias: right. >> commissioner hamasaki: yeah. so anything that's very nonsubs substantiative and i don't want to end up dragging this out and i'm sorry your date to report back on the need to meet and confer was -- >> vice president elias:
[ indiscernible ] >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you. >> president cohen: all right. there was a motion made. i'll second that motion and let's call the roll. >> clerk: on the motion regarding line item nine, [roll call] president cohen, you have a unanimous vote. >> president cohen: thank you. progress people, we're making progress. exciting. okay. so we've gotten. let's go to the top of our agenda. if you can begin with item three, we'll begin with the chief's report. thank you, ladies and gentlemen. >> clerk: line item three,
chief's report. weekly crime trends. major and significant incidents. provide a summary of planned activities and events. this will include a brief overview of any unplanned events or activities occurring in san francisco having an impact on public safety. commission discussion on unplanned events and activities, the chief describes will be limited to determining whether to calendar for a future meeting. >> police chief scott: thank you, sergeant renolds, and thank you, president cohen. i'll start out with the statistics of the year to date as i do every year at the beginning of the year with the notation at the beginning of the year, are the statistics tend to fling very wildly because the numbers are so small. i just want to point out to the
public that that is usually the way things work until we have more statistics to level those wild flings off. also, i will say this as well. the year-end statistics should be ready by next week when i report to the commission and the public, but i don't have them yet this week. so so far this year, we are pretty much down across the board and, again, first week of the year, that really doesn't say a whole lot because these numbers are very small and one or two crimes can make a percentage increase and decreases. but we've had one or two actually had one yesterday. if there is any good news to the death of two people, we did make arrests on both of those cases and we will be seeking prosecution through our district attorney's office on both of those cases. we've had one sexual assault year to date at least for this reporting period.
48 robberies compared to 54 this time last year and 51 assaults compared to 53 this time last year. in terms of property crime, pretty significant. pretty significant number of decreases, but, again, we'll see how it pans out as we go further into the year. but 99 burglaries compared to 228 this time last year. 114 motor vehicle thefts compared to 154. eight arsons compared to twelve last year and 351 thefts and that includes car break-ins and that's 568. i would like to note we started out with a huge increase through the first several months, many months of 2022, 2021. and some of it had to do with covid adjustments and the like. this year, i think will be more of a reflection of truer crime
comparisons from year to year. so we'll keep an eye and we'll advise the commission on trends and what we're doing about it. right now, all of the strategies that were carried forward in 2022 including our gun violence strategy will be carried forward from last year's strategies. in terms of gun violence, for the first week of the year, we only had two shootings compared to nine of the first week of last year. that is good news and we have had as i said two firearm related homicides including the one yesterday. the stations in terms of the gun violence in the station. we've had two gun related incidents in the bayview and most of the stations were at 0. so that is not a whole lot to report there. significant incidents of the week. a witness in the homicide that
i mentioned occurred on brandon street, the 100 block of brandon in the southern district. in the hallway near the apartment where a victim is known to stay and this person is with an unknown person. the witness heard what appeared to be an argument and then heard a lot of gunshots and several people running away. the witness went to the apartment, saw the victim who was down on the floor inside the apartment. the victim succumbed to his injuries and we do intend to go through prosecution on this case. there was a shooting on the 300 block of ocean. the suspect known to the victim got in a fight inside the nightclub. the incident moved outside and once outside, the subject/suspect fired one shot which shattered a bottle. the victim stepped in from a
person standing nearby to protect that person and the suspect fired an additional two rounds which struck the victims. the victim is expected to live and the injuries are not believed to be life threatening. we do have some good leads on this case and we hope to make an arrest on this case. another significant incident was at san jose in the terraville district. the subject attacked a victim, punched him and caused him to lose consciousness. the victim was 70 years old. that victim was transported, is expected to survive the injuries, was in stable condition at the time of the report. there was a sexual assault in the eagle side district. this was on january 5th. officers went to a call, a report of a female in the area behind the visitation valley mental school screamed for help. witnesses who were walking in the area describe her as being
held down and possibly being sexually assaulted by a male subject. the witnesses yelled at the suspect that they were calling the police and took a picture. the suspect got up and walked away from the scene and the victim was self-transported to the hospital where the officers conducted their interview and collected evidence. the victim was injured in this case and this is an ongoing investigation. so we do have some really good leads and i will report back on this case. another incident of note was a $20,000 robbery that happened in the bayview. the victim was walking to the bus stop. the victim held on to her purse and yelled for help and the subject continued to pull on the purse causing the victim to fall to the ground. the person contained a large sum of money as the victim was
going to send it to family outside of the united states. no arrest has been made yet. we will continue to investigate that crime and hopefully bring that to a resolution. we're adding an attempted kidnap. this is at golden gate park panhandle. the parent and the child were playing in the park and the parent was holding the child in her arms. the parent who was also holding a stick handed the stick to the subject. he said, no and reached towards the child. the parent ran away from the subject, ran home and called the police. we do believe this was a righteous attempt to take this child. we don't know what the motivation was. that investigation is going as well. no stunt driving to report. there was one fatal traffic collision to report this period that occurred at geary and laguna. a vehicle collided with a
pedestrian. that pedestrian unfortunately later died from his injuries. no one is with this time. i talked about strategies. a lot of our strategies will continue including for our gun violence reduction strategy and really one of the staples of that strategy is reaching out, engaging with individuals who we believe to be at risk for gun violence or perpetuating gun violence and getting them into active case management before they either shoot somebody or get shot. that is ongoing and working with fbi some of our other city and nonprofit providers it's going to be a big part of our success on the strategies. so that will continue and we will continue to use that as a staple of our strategy. in terms of control, we are
basically really the last half of the year saw a downtick. even though we saw a couple of spikes of the shootings, we took the last half of the year on the shootings compared to the first half of the year. we do believe the strategies and the analysis to put the officers and deployment in the right places helped in addressing the issues. so we'll continue to do that. the work in the bayview will continue and that's the partnership with california partnership that really centers around district 10 but it's not limited to that. we did a presentation to the commission on that. and the last thing i'd like to report that's a big deal with the resurgence of the coronavirus and the omicron variant, it has hit not only the city, but this department extremely hard. we have had a number of officers have been affected by the virus even though everybody
who's at work right now is vaccinated. we've had upwards of 200 officers either off work due to the virus or having to be quarantined due to exposures. so that's an ongoing challenge. we're working with all of 0 our public health partners and our department physicians to do everything we can to at least the basics of washing hands, testing, encouraging boosters with which the cities and everybody to get boosted. so we'll keep the commission posted on that. what we are doing so adjust with deployment, we've had mandatory overtime. we've also had to really from one district station to the other just to keep deployment as stable as we can keep it and this is just not an sfpd problem. there are many other city entities that are having challenges due to the
coronavirus. so we're all in it together and we'll continue to try to pull forward and make the adjustments. but we are not -- we're still handling regular calls and we're still getting out and doing our job. we'll do what we have to do to get through it. and that concludes my report. >> vice president elias: great. thank you, chief. sergeant renolds. >> clerk: would you like to take public comment? >> commissioner hamasaki: sorry. i had a question. we do have commissioners here. >> vice president elias: forgot about that part. my apologies. commissioner hamasaki and then anyone else. >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you, vice president elias. i just wanted to check in with the chief. there's probably one of the biggest policing stories over the past month has been we've heard public comment about it
tonight has been around a suggested tenderloin [ indiscernible ] including arresting people for [ indiscernible ] , drug use, quality of life crimes, you know, general broken windows policing, and i asked this question last week and was hoping to get a status today from you. >> police chief scott: thank you, commissioner. let me address the question. the broken windows policing is not happening. it's not what we're trying to do or intend to do and enforcing particularly drug sales is apart of our objective of what we're going to do, what we intend to do, what we've been doing and the other part of this is really trying to get some of our people who have some serious substance disorders and addictions. we have to engage with to get them to a better place. and that's what hopefully this
facilitates is working with the department of public health and the nonprofits involved in this, people have some options. options to get help that don't include jail. that's the idea behind this and we are apart of this solution. our job, you know, particularly drug sales is enforcement is apart of that. but there's a lot of people that need help out there. people on our streets using drugs. the coronavirus has hit the jails like it did when this first became an issue in this city. so we have to be mindful of what the jails and the court systems have to do to keep the virus in check in our jails and in our court system. but our role in this is to really get people to help and i've talked about these addicted people, people out on the streets using. the other thing that's happening -- >> commissioner hamasaki:
yeah. but how do police officers. >> police chief scott: what we said all along and this is directed from officers, give us resources where we can get people whol are addicted help. but the idea behind this is if we, i'm going to give you the typical example in the tenderloin. somebody's using, you name the street, they're using, officers come up on it. the way this is designed is we
will be able to -- the officers to call resources, clinicians, caseworkers, people who then we can give a warm hand-off to and try to get this person into that facility. voluntarily. that will be the best case scenario. let's say that happens three times in a day. the person refuses to go. the officer goes to that same corner, the person is using again. at some point, yes, if there is no willingness for that person to go get help voluntarily, officers should enforce. they should do what we have to do. they should have those services in the criminal justice system, but that's not the first option. so that's the way this is designed, to give us the ability to get people to help, to give a warm hand-off to the people that the social workers are the people that call it in to try to work with people to address these issues and i do believe that addiction is a health issue.
but we do still -- >> it sounds like you're describing it -- i just -- i don't -- i guess my concern, the concerns that have been expressed nationally about this is the idea that erupting drug users is a [ indiscernible ] you know, we've tried that in this country for 50 years. all we've done is filled our jails and caused harm without -- you know, this is like the same thing with h-stock and we promised the exact thing we're promising now but with homelessness which is we're going to go help all the people connect them with services, but the services didn't really appear and all we saw was enforcement and then enforcement there meant taking away peoples' tents and breaking down encampments. i know that's been shifted to
the department of public works now, but it sounds like the same plan and it didn't work and it didn't -- like, where are all these services going to appear from that haven't been available up until now? >> police chief scott: well the facility that is the crux of what the emergency order was about to give public health this facility so we will have another facility in the tenderloin to do just what has been described as a big part of this. aside from what you just raised with the homeless issue, our role in that was really to get people to service and we need a place to do that. you know, there's not enough beds, there's not enough facilities and as we see right now, it's very difficult for officers to have another option and so that is the idea behind that. this is something that we've been asking for for a long time. when we tried to do this since
2018, september 2018, we tried to do a similar type of endeavor where we were sending people to the cast. those services kind of dried up and it kind of went away and there's a lot of disappointment and confusion about that, but we have to be consistent, commissioner, in these things. we have to be consistent and if we're going to help people, it's got to be there long enough to get people help. >> commissioner hamasaki: i guess the idea that is, you know, i mean, obviously like we've talked about this for years, the tenderloin, nobody's here. commissioner byrne is out there. nobody's here and then we've advocated for policing, but this is a public health issue.
i just have a real problem with saying we're going to arrest drug users, we don't have the services in place to give people options. i don't think directing drug users has ever worked. >> police chief scott: well, i think, to answer your question, i hope i've answered your question.' we're asking for the services to give people options. that's what this police department has asked for for a very long time. so -- >> commissioner hamasaki: the community has asked for it as well. >> police chief scott: right and we're told it's going to happen and we all hope it's successful. we've got to get to a better place. >> commissioner hamasaki: i agree with that, but i don't think arresting drug users is going to get us there. do you have a plan on when -- i
don't know if it has a name, but when this is going to begin? >> police chief scott: hopefully by next month, beginning of next month, like first week of next month is what the plan is. that's beyond, you know, the police department. the department of emergency management, but we're working with all of the city partners to make this a success and we are definitely -- we're asking loudly to put this facility online. >> commissioner hamasaki: okay. so was that three strikes like an actual policy as far as drug users for arrest? >> police chief scott: no. i hope i didn't give that indication. what i was saying is that in the event that officers are engaged with people who for whatever reason aren't taking advantages of these services and there can be many reasons for that. they can't just allow the drug use on the street to continue. and at some point, an arrest
could be appropriate and will be appropriate if that continues to happen. there's no three strikes you're out type of thing. we had to work with people and a lot of this is with the consultation of the people who do this work for a living, you know. and if the advice is we've tried everything, you know, maybe the medical services and the jail is the way for this person to get some help and, you know, we'll work with that, but we are not the medical clinicians on this and we'll do our jobs and stay in our lanes, but part of this -- i just don't want to give the impression where there's never an occasion where a person is addicted that they won't get arrested because there are times that has to happen. >> commissioner hamasaki: i think we should agendize this for a full discussion. but outside of drug users,
people who are addicted to drugs, arresting them, sit lie, is that something you'll be arresting for as well? people just sitting on the streets? >> police chief scott: here is what my take on my conversations with the mayor has been. the mayor wants to see improvements in what's happening on the streets. the mayor is not directed to go arrest people laying on the sidewalk, but she wants improvements. there are situations where sidewalks are impassable because of peoples' stuff and we have to work with that. now, we have done i think some good work and talked to the people getting in to clean all that up and we work with our partners at h.s.h. and other city entities to do that, but the direction is we have to have an improvement in what's happening on our streets where people are doing things that are -- that they shouldn't be doing on the streets and it's
not about arresting, you know, people who are homeless or economically disadvantaged or anything like that or quality of issues. this is about problem solving and addressing the issue. but we can do that without often times making an arrest. some of our officers are good at talking to people, getting them in the mood, getting them to clean up so the sidewalks are passable. that's what this is about and i think we've got to really -- well, i will give our officers credit because i've seen it happen, i've seen them do the job in a way that compassionate, that's thoughtful, that is short of everything that a lot of people are saying they're going to arrest people lock them up for being homeless. that's not our intention. number one it's not going to work. it doesn't do us any good. we just want to see the situation get better. so there are ways to do that. and that's what the mayor has asked. she's asked for not just the
police department, but everybody that has a hand in this. she wants to see an improvement on what's happening in our streets. we can do that thoughtfully and compassionately and that's where officers have been asked to do. >> commissioner hamasaki: just to be clear, will you be enforcing sit/lie? >> police chief scott: that's not our intention, commissioner. i'm not going to tell you a citation will never be written for sit/lie. but i will tell you that's not our objection. there are people out there and i've seen with my own eyes just won't do the right thing. you ask them to clean up the sidewalk and they don't clean up the sidewalk. and i've seen this, a family and a lady walking her kids where she's got to walk in the street in traffic because the person won't make the sidewalk passable. we're not going to sit by and watch that happen. so if that person is unwilling to work with us, if that person is unwilling to move, i'm not going to tell you we're not going to fight the person
because we might and we probably will. we're going to do it in a way that's sensible. >> vice president elias: i think this is a bigger conversation. >> commissioner hamasaki: that was it for me, vice president elias. i'm going to ask to agendize it when we get to that point. chief, i appreciate the discussion tonight. thank you. >> vice president elias: colleagues, any other questions? commissioner byrne. >> commissioner byrne: thank you, vice president elias. chief, i believe you're aware that the matter about the tenderloin is going to be agendized in february. that's our last meeting relying on commissioner hamasaki's concerns. could the police department provide the statistics that are arrested just by under the influence and the sit/lie and that type of thing so it's clear to the public it is not the police department's intention to i think that
statistics will hopefully speak for itself. >> police chief scott: thank you, commissioner. we will do that. >> vice president elias: if we can get that sooner than later, i'd appreciate that. >> police chief scott: yeah. thank you. >> commissioner byrne: to be clear, it's under the influence, sit/lie, those types of loitering offenses, those types of offenses is what we're interested in. and obviously the issue is the tenderloin. it extends to 7th and mission. the tenderloin would be our primary interest. >> police chief scott: yes, sir. thank you. we will do that. >> vice president elias: it may be helpful too to give a broader perspective of the types of arrests that are occurring in the tenderloin. that may give us a better context of what's happening and i think, chief, you have that data, right. >> police chief scott: yes, commissioner. >> vice president elias: great. thank you, commissioner byrne
was there anything else? >> commissioner byrne: no. thank you. >> vice president elias: okay. commissioner yee. >> commissioner yee: thank you, vice president elias. i was going to ask the chief looking at my roster's availability and with your staffing level now minus the officers that are off on covid and what does that bring you down to? >> police chief scott: commissioner, i'll give you an approximate and i believe this is going to be close. we are probably in the 1,500 when you take out the officers that are either in quarantine or off due to contracting covid-19. we were in the high 1,700s
prior to that. we had some retirements unexpected. some vaccination mandates we're working through so there's a lot of challenges with deployment. >> commissioner yee: yeah. and looking at the omicron virus hitting the whole city and throughout, i guess what are the measures that we're taking to protect our members out there as well? because they're the front line that meets the public and they face it every day. is there any plans on that and how to i guess reach this amount of infection among our members? >> police chief scott: well, some of the basic stuff masking, social distancing, things like that. avoiding as much as we can do in large assemblies of people. you know, when the firework show was canceled, you know, we
have a lineup that has 150 people in it and everybody is in close proximity then that doesn't help us. so we are large events since we've had this surge. we've really pretty much put a stop to that. we still have to go outside the public, so it's really hard and what we're seeing in the police department, commissioner, even with everything that we've been doing and i think we've done a really good job up to this point. those things haven't seemed to help as much as they have in the past with this particular variant and what i'm told is other departments are in the same pinch with covid and it's transmissible. we're going to continue hand washing and testing. and we are able to test. the department does have tests and we're able to test and if somebody is positive, we have
all the protocols. they have to not be in the work place, but despite all that, it hit us hard and really quickly. >> commissioner yee: okay. thank you very much. and just to let you know, on my way home every time i go downtown i do go by the tenderloin. now, i can tell you that there's i think we're in the right direction but there's still, i guess, looking at any and high to larkin, that's probably where your main migration of the people that are sit and lie as you would say or people that are under the influence or possibly activity, drug activities there. i'm looking forward too for the rest of the city and county to begin to clear and addressing these problems.
i hope to see that happens within the next month or two as we need to clear it up for all of us here to make it safe for the community to i guess be functional in the tenderloin. that's all i have to say, chief. thank you very much. >> police chief scott: thank you. and, commissioner, if i can add, we're at 1,665 full-duty officers and know that last report, 174 off due to covid. if there's any good news, a lot of people are coming back quicker but it's a struggle right now. >> commissioner yee: okay. >> police chief scott: and that does not include air force. >> commissioner yee: i have one last question i wanted to ask. in regards to i guess meeting up with school districts on the safety plan, has that happened
yet? >> police chief scott: i'll follow up with you. i was off last week and i did not get a chance to follow up before i left. >> commissioner yee: i'll be happy to join you too as well. let me know. >> police chief scott: thank you. >> commissioner yee: thank you. >> vice president elias: commissioner carter-oberstone, any questions for the chief? great. sergeant, can we take public comment now? >> clerk: yes, ma'am. if you would like to make public comment, please dial star three. good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: so i see your statement of purpose says that the police department is committed to excellence in law enforcement and are dedicated to the people tradition and diversity of our city in order to protect property and reduce
the fear of crime. with understanding response and compassion and one of you commissioners was trying to make the issue of behavioral health which i doubt any of you on the commission have started behavioral health. in fact, the city itself took two years to hire a director. the director came in august and is sitting on her ass doing nothing. they just want to building, start this and start that and start something else. so if you read your mission, if you read your statement of purpose, it's not to address
behavioral health the police chief is saying something, but he's not saying nothing because he wants to cover the mayor. the mayor is useless. she should step down and fade away. some of you commissioners are useless including your chair because ya'll talk too much. we are -- the police chief kind of alluded to quality of life issues. quality of life issues is important to the taxpayer. they're paying taxes. we don't want -- they're paying taxes. we don't want a mayor who's emotional. we'll use our police to do this and to do that and do something else. oh, no. we will handle them with understanding and this and that. no no. you are sending mixed signals. we want to know -- >> clerk: thank you, caller. good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> caller: good evening, police commissioners.
i wanted to emphasize my agreement with mr. hamasaki's line of questioning specifically surrounding the arrest of people that are using drugs and people that are sitting and lying on our streets. frankly, these topics are of great concern. specifically, i want to emphasize how our actions and our policing have driven them to be on the streets. so we made it so that if you use drugs inside or gather to use drugs inside, we confiscate your house, we confiscate whatever place you're in. and so when you do this in mass over a long period of time, you end up with drug users on the street. standing there and questioning how the drug users get in the street, it's obvious as day as we see the change from heroin over to fentanyl.
or we see teenage usage where you have enforcement on teenagers, so they turned to hard alcohol and as soon as they grow into being able to use it legally, they change over to using beer and wine like every other teenager does in the world where it's civilized and every adult does it everywhere. our continued use of force on the streets against these people is damaging them, it's damaging our law, and it's damaging our city. if we want people to stop shitting on the streets, we desperately need to build bathrooms and stop feeding them. it's incredibly destructive to society. please, tonight, i'm asking you please, commissioners, to reconsider this intending and imposing renewed war on drugs that has failed, that is wildly unpopular nationwide and is causing huge quantities of
damage to our society. >> clerk: commissioner elias, that concludes public comment. >> vice president elias: great. thank you. next agenda item, please. >> clerk: line item four. d.p.a. director's report, discussion. reports on recent d.p.a. activities and announcements. d.p.a.'s report will be limited to a brief description of d.p.a. activities and announcements. commission discussion will be limited to determining whether to calendar any of the issues raised for a future meeting. >> vice president elias: thank you, director henderson. welcome. new scenery. new report. you're muted. >> director: i pushed it, but didn't hold it long enough. sorry. it's a new day. so i have a lot of stuff to go
over. let me just jump on in. thank you so much. i will share the information. again, this is a new year. so the numbers are kind of hard to gage and i will -- when i get to the statistics i will repeat some of the disclaimers that we talked about earlier as the chief brought up with the few numbers. it's very difficult to gage percentages when the numbers are small especially in the beginning of the year. so i again want to make that disclaimer not to read very much into the numbers as a reflection of broader trends or things that are going on. we have four cases. new cases have been opened up so far at this time. this time last year, we were at 23 cases. we've closed seven cases. so far this year. right now, we have 272 cases that are open and pending. this time last year, we had
347. we've sustained two cases this year, the same number of cases we've sustained this time last year and we have 0 mediated cases, no mediation so far this year. which is also the same amount we mediated last year. for cases that we have on the docket whose investigations have gone beyond nine months, that number is 25. this time last year, the number of those cases was 35. of those 25 cases, 17 of those cases are cold meaning there's other action holding up or suspending leading to criminal cases or civil cases pending. there are also an additional eleven cases that are pending decisions with the commission and 13 cases that are pending decision with the chief. in terms of the weekly trends and, again, this is where the disclaimer i think it most applicable, we've received six
cases this week. of the largest percentage of those cases have been for officers who have violated use of force policies and the next largest percentage of cases have been for officers who have behaved or spoke in the manner unbecoming of an officer. the next smallest percentage of allegations are for officers who drove improperly and then the next allegation is for officers who failed to take required action. we had 6% of the allegations which grade manners off side of the which my officers handle which is a total of 18 allegations in all from those six cases that came in. and those cases involved generally calls for service, mostly involving failure to respond to calls for service.
specifically related to calling about drug dealing and or drug use in specific areas. also, for excessive force during an arrest. the excessive force both the excessive force and the failure to respond for drug dealing and use, those are three of the cases were from the tenderloin. the other cases and allegations involved northern station, central station and one that is unknown and needs further investigation that is being worked on right now. last week, i think, president cohen asked about the annual report and an update from d.p.a. on the annual report. we have also been compiling our data from 2021 and what's happening next is that that
data will be analyzed and drafted into the report. there's going to be some new things. i do believe the report gets better every year. every year new requests are added into the annual report both from the commission and from the public for people asking for specific things to be added into the annual report. this year, you can expect things that are new and calls for service. and we have a lot of that work is being done and i hope to deliver the annual reports sooner than we typically deliver it which is the end of spring, early summer. right now our director of operations is putting in a lot of that work and it looks promising and i should begin looking at drafts. [please stand by]
you will get regular updates on the responses and the actions taken by the department based on the recommendations from the audit report. now i did talk to steve about this. my director of policy. i think he said we'll do that every six months. it might be throw months but i think he said every six months we'll do a follow-up report. whatever the standard practice is for an audit there's a standard practice you do this and we're going to be following that as well. you will have notice about it and you will get a lot of those answers and as we get it and the public report which will be next month. i'm sorry. we anticipate by having that report by the end of this month. you will have it by the end of this month. by the terms of outreach, we met recently with the unified school districtly say on for special education as well as with the mayor office of disability to discuss the plan that we're
building out it create youth with disabilities to be active and this commission has a long history of working with both not just the youth commission but with a lot of young people and i want to make sure that dpa is playing its role. that's not coronavirus, i just had a cough. i want to make sure that we are actively engage in reaching out to specifically disenfranchised groups within our youth communities and so that is part of what is reflected in these meetings while we develop a plan to try and bring broader voice and participation into these meetings. i will say it has been extremely helpful as an option for people to tune in on their computer and call from home to participate in these commissioners. that's a plug for these
wonderful zoom calls. i'm just saying in case anyone is listening. i will talk about the offices conducting virtual training with the national association of civilian oversight this month. it's on implicit bias training for law enforcement. we talked so much about implicit bias and the significance of it and not just the work that we do in policing but in oversight as well. i think it's an error not to focus on bias all across the board and i really want to make sure that dpa is actively engage and getting as much of that work done as possible. i've made that training mandatory for every single one of my employees to be participating in and i want to and i will be regularly calling out the trainings that the
agency takes place that is the agency participates in on the areas that the commission and the public has expressed has been a particular concern for the work that we're all doing. i believe that bias and diversity are two of those topics. so you will be hearing more of those for now i'm starting off the year with this training, that is mandatory. i think i believe i did accepted the invitation and the information about the training to all of the commissioners as well in case they have an interest in participating or joining in it as well. the other thing is that dhr let us know that we are one of the departments that achieved 100% completion rate for all of our required training for 2021. yeah! i know is this any department didn't do 100% of their hr required training but whatever. we got 100 so i'm talking about
mine. i can't speak for any other department but i want to mention and articulate it because especially because the trainings are important and we've all been working throughout the pandemic in a variety of different ways but we're not losing sight of our obligated trainings for the work. there's nothing in closed session today with any of the cases from d.p.a. present on the call tonight with us. senior investigator brent in case there are issues that came up related to dpa he can be helpful with as a reminder, but if folks need to get in contact with -- if folks need to get in contact with dpa our website is sfgov.org/dpa or you can always contact us by phone
(415)241-7711 and in terms of the agenda items, i know we already talked about the stuff that's in the consent calender so i won't go over any of the details for the consent calender but i do want to mention because i think it's very important the 1421 stuff are just want to mention because there's a new law that went into effect on january 1st. that's sb 16 and we heard about that when senator skinner came and presented to the commission. i just wanted assure both the public and commissioners that we are responding to sb 16 and the work that we're doing. the report has already filed and i won't go into it like i said but it's on-line and on the website. it has resulted in a 25% increase in the work that is
because there are four new categories to disclose that all require disclosure that is in those are unreasonable or excessive force, officers failure to intervene when another officer is using clearly unreasonable or excessive force and three, unlawful search or an arrest, and four, bias policing which includes verbal statements, written statements and social media posts. that means that we have to go back and essentially start a lot of work that is already been done to include those new categories. we already have sb 16 request that we're working on at dpa and i presume the department and other agencies do as well. and our regularly scheduled input for this specifics of them on the third week of the month so you will hear the full doughl with the numbers later on. it's important we articulate
that now and it's one of the new things happening in the department. and by the way, our reports as well now that are already filed, reflect the new categories and the other big news in there is that we've also started releasing actual media files so for the first time we have 542 minutes of the redacted audio files and we've also published them to our portal as well there was a specific request for these files that took us months both to develop a redax solution and implement it because it entirely new way of releasing and giving information for the public. it was a pretty intensive process and generally for every minute of an actual recording that has to be disseminated it
takes five and a half minutes of staff time to perform the review and the retaxes and that's before figure out the learning curve of the new software we're use to go do it and i want to thank for a moment sfgovtv and the folks that were there were super helpful and helping my staff and training our staff as to how to use the cost ware specifically and to make this available to the public and the transparency is not loss on us that sf government is helping us to produce these documents, not the documents to but to release these files. jack chan, hanson ho, jason goal hammer and jeffrey chan agreed to help with will own time for this first media production is significant so i wanted to talk about it and not let it pass and not just for the production but also in the training for our staff or for future productions as well is pretty significant.
thank you again. the rest of the stuff that i have is the stuff related to the dgos and i don't think we've discussed it in depth already. i will say just as the director, i think it's substantive. this is ground breaking, the work that is being done and voted on right now with these dgos and it's not lost on me. we are having the conversations and passing these historic and these dgos are absolutely historic and coming from what happened the stuff that we talked about last week with ripa and addressing the disparities and talking about position that's been selected through out the state not just with sfpd and law enforcement and general and so i think the response is to have good policy and these are good policies that redefine best practices for marijuana pansy
and public safety as well and so, that said that concludes my report and i have another new part of the report that i'm adding. >> we have a 10-minute time limit. this is just the follow-up for the questions that were raised last week i want to make sure that i am supporting accountability so when i ask questions and i'll get back to you i'm adding this small section at the end where i will introduce diana rosen steen to address the questions for dpa. see, i'm done. >> ok. we're going to have to work on a 10-minute time limit including your staff because you will take up the 10 minutes ale they'll get is face time. >> that's fine. i had a lot this week. i had this week to talk about.
>> i have updates for questions we received last week. for commissioner bird and commissioner hamasaki they inquired about the status of an investigation that we are conducting regarding an allege burglary and response by sfpd at a marijuana response dispensary and it's whether or not we are getting information from sfpd in timely manner and i'm happy to report i did check in with our investigative team and they're getting the information that they need so thank you to sfpd. the other question we had was regarding timeframes and at this point we are proceeding just
like any other case and we do anticipate that our record will be ready with the statutory deadlines that will so things are moving along with that and i also have an update for commissioners yee of the i am fired about a case that involved a ups driver and i did reach out and we do, we did identify a case that involved since we've talked we've had a case sent to us for investigation that involved a female ups driver of african american dissent in the area hague and ashbury and we are investigating. i assume it's the same incident based on the information that the commissioners provided but i'm not sure however as i said before, commissioner yee would
luke to be co complainant if everyone kind of chuckle about we welcome him and we just need confirmation but i think it's the same incident based on the information provided and last but not least, the department has asked us to arapahoe in the promotional craft and provide information to the captains that and the commanders that are being promoted on january 19th d and we wanted to thank sfpd for giving us an opportunity to come and talk to the leadership. the new leadership that is going to take the baton. so, that is all i have. is that fast enough for you? >> that was kind of long.
>> any questions? >> this is commissioner yee. i thank you very much. i will not be a co complainer that person has more of the facts and i i just cloud the issue so i just wanted to point it out and thank you for following up. >> sure, no problem. anybody else have any questions that i can answer? thank you for your presentation. >> president cohen: thank you. >> lovely and inspiring. >> president cohen: all right, paul. [laughter] >> president cohen: let's see. let's go ahead and take public comment. on the dph report. >> yes, ma'am, on-line item 4, if you would like to make public comment, please dial star 3.
good evening, caller. you have two minutes. >> so first and foremost, let me say it's easy to talk the talk and very difficult to walk the walk. some months ago there was black police officer's case that came before the commission. and i sent an e-mail to dpa and some others about that case. no reply. so, let me say one thing. when you are the director of any department, let others put it in writing and say they're doing a go ahead job or whatever. suddenly, we are attending the
public commission. the police commission rather two minutes public comment, yeah, two minutes for us. on important topics. we can use a blog, you know. that way we get a wider area to communicate and what is this session of the chair leaving the commission meeting and coming back and the voice chair taking over? what is this? musical chairs? we need standards. punctuality, as well as how you run the commission. and stop bringing the legislature from sacramento here to deck eight terms to us. thank you, very much. >> thank you, caller.
or president cohen, that concludes public comment. >> president cohen: great. thank you, very much. all right, let's go to the next item. please call item 5. >> line item 5, commission reports. will be limited to a brief description of activities and announcements. commission discussions will be limited to determining whether to calender any of the issues raised for future commission meetings and customer president reports and reports and announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at future commission meetings. discussion and action. >> perfect. we'll start at the top, anyone have any anything they'd like to report out? i'll start with you commissioner elias. >> nothing this week. hopefully we'll have some protocols call for sb15 coming
soon and we're working on them and hopefully we'll have them to present to the commission soon. >> president cohen: commission burn. how are things going into the tenderloin? >> i have to conquer with commissioner yee other than what is going on eddie street and the best i've seen it in a long, long time and i know we have the awards panel next week as i understand it it's still scheduled to go on next wednesday instead of our regular meeting. that's all i've got a report for. thank you. >> ok. commissioner hamasaki, anything from you? >> i just wanted to add to the agenda i believe the commissioner saying it was added but a discussion and the
presentation on the tenderloin and what that entailed >> all right. commissioner yee >> nothing at this time and i will reserve my time for the following meeting. thank you. >> president cohen: ok. no problem. >> just a brief update on my end. i had a chance to meet with chief scott and i did receive some information but chief scott was willing to meet with me to streamline the process of data sharing between the commission and the department and chief scott was fair and reasonable
and sensible as always. one thing that came out of the meeting is chief scott agreed with the department sends data to the california department of justice on a quarterly basis as it's required by state law the opportunity will share that data with both dpa and the commission and we both agree the data is following public and there should be no issues of course if for someone reason there's a legal issue that neither of us foresee then that can change. assuming the state of the law is what we understand it to be, i look forward to receiving those quarterly data updates in the view and chief scott working on this issue. >> all right.
>> president cohen: i'm going to bring back our discussion on dgo5.16. this is the search warrant. dgo, it was on our agenda and then the bar association wanted to make comments so i want to encourage to circle back up and let's get moving on this and this is a priority that i'd like to get done bit end of the first quarter of this year. so let's shoot getting this done by late february and march. i think we're close. also, in terms of policy priority that i bring to the forefront because i want to make sure and integrity and the collection and analysis for our collective work. i think that evidence-based policing is an aspiration that the department has and i want to
as we talk about the budget and i want to make sure that we're making sure that the police department has the resources, the human resources it needs in order to help us move into that direction and i think that this department is poise to be a department that would be an example for other departments when it comes to data driven analysis and data driven policy that help with policing. so, i know that the i'd like to have the commission request that the department share its draft policy dgo, i don't know, maybe within the next 10 days. that you've been working on and this is the dgo for data driven analysis. forgive me, i don't know the official names. let me see if my notes have it.
the draft data policy, my apologies. the draft data policies, you guys have been working on it for a little bit of time and the commission hasn't had a chance to look at it and i would love to just take a look at it. i understand it's in draft form and perhaps you can bring it to us in the next meeting. following the 19th which is february 2nd. so, that is, those are the two policy initiatives that i am looking to get done and and next month and a half to two months. i think we can go and pivot to public comment. and we will go to the next agenda item. >> clerk: thank you, president cohen. if you would like to make public comment regarding line item 5, please press star 3 now. good evening, callers, you have
two minutes. >> clerk: good evening, caller. you have two minutes. it looks like there is no public comment, president cohen. >> president cohen: just to clarify the draft policy is new. it has no number. so i see you looking and wondering what number are we talking about. there's no number assigned so this is something that is new. seeing there's no public comment, let's continue and dispense of this y let's go to item 6, which is a presentation of the overview for fiscal year
2022-2023. >> dr. reynolds, can you pull up the slide deck, please? >> president cohen: can you please call item 6? >> clerk: line item 6, presentation of the department budget process overview for fiscal year 2022-2023 discussion. >> colleagues, before we dive into the budget presentation, i just wanted to check does anyone need to take a break? no one? seeing none, let's keep going. thank you. >> president cohen: welcome mr. leon, you are giving the presentation, right? >> yes, president cohen. sergeant renalds, can you pull up the budget presentation? >> clerk: just one moment, i'm working on it. >> thank you.
the public, my name is patrick lee young and i'm the chief financial officer for the san francisco police department. tonight will be our first budget presentation for the fiscal year '23 and fiscal year '24 budget cycle. on the agenda tonight, we'll be discussioning the budget process time lines, the budget rules and responsibilities and the mayor's budget instructions and a budget comparison of the past five years. i want to start by thanking vice president elias for taking time to meet with us and providing us feedback in advance of this presentation. in this slide, the table provides some key dates in the budget process. tonight is our first budget presentation. the second budget presentation is scheduled for february 9th. february 21st is when the budget submission is due.
next slide, please. this will be our 2022 general fund budget. this shows a representation of our major cost and our general fund budget. personnel cost which is highlighted in blue comprises the vast majority of our budget and this makes sense when you highlight the general area of our budget and provided by other city agencies to the police department and these include things such as rental payments by real estate or maintenance and fuel cost for vehicles. these two categories represent 93% of our budget. the remaining categories are
what we have to rely on to help support our staff. services make up about 3% of our budget, supplies makes up less than 1%. capital cost which is equipment vehicles makes up less than 10%. and we're also trying to improve our information technology capabilities and our data needs. we're in the process of recommending a new record management system and some of these efforts will help our progress on some of the collaborating reforms. these are some of the areas we hope improve. next slide, please. i want to start with general fund comparison. this table helps provide. what this shows is that from fiscal year '18 to fiscal year
'22, our budget has increased by $53 million. i do want to start taking a deeper look into these details. if you can go to the next slide. what this table presents is a different view of the previous slides. the top half of the table represents items that are determined not determined by the department. it represents costs beyond our control cost of living adjustments that are part of the collective bargaining process between the department of city and human resources. benefitting increases determined negotiated by the city's health service system. lease agreements goes negotiated and is handled by the department of real estate. and in the earlier slide, i provided some examples of services provided by other city
agencies such as center shop. collectively, these categories don't result in an increase in public safety services being provided. what it does represent is an increase cost of doing business. when you add up the total cost over the five-year comparison period, it totals more than $68 million and note that this is more than the $53 million that our budget has increased between fiscal year '18 and fiscal year '22. in other words, what happens is some of the other items. since fiscal year '20, we've lost 185 more positions, $7 million reduction in overtime in miss cal year '21. we did receive a small increase in fiscal year '22, but whether you compare where we were, we've had a reduction since some of the prior fiscal years. and when you compare the total
budget from fiscal year '18 to fiscal year '22, our budget has reduced not so much in the sense of the total monetary dollars, but from the viewpoint of the services that we're able to provide and when you include some of the mandatory increases beyond our control, the net budget reduction from $521 million to $507 million shows a reflection of the cost of increase, the increased cost of doing business. next slide, please. in the prior slides, we've provided a view of our general fund budget. in this table, we show our total department budget which includes the airport fund and some of the special revenue funds such as ramps. next slide, please. next, i want to go over the funding for our full-time
equivalent position for f.t.e.s. this table shows a comparison of our funded positions of our hiring authority for the last five years and i'll concentrate just on our sworn staffing. when you can see in these figures is that the city sworn has dropped from a high of 2008, in 2008 positions in fiscal year 20 we note that approximately 200 positions first of all are health other than full duty status. i do want to start by noting there is an error on this slide. the calculations and the last call is supposed to be for sub totals, they're incorrect. the actual numbers within the table are correct, but the sub totals in that last column,
they were copied from an earlier draft when the figures were focused on age rather than service. what's important to denote on this slide is the number of sworn members who are eligible for retirement. when you add up the totals on both the city and the airport side, we have 521 officers eligible to retire as of today. 435 for the city, 86 for the airport. the lower table shows our sworn duty count or our sworn count for full duty and recruits for both the city and the airport. the city currently has a staff of 1,947 sworn of which 1,763 are sworn. chief scott provided a more updated number earlier today
and that was 1,675 so we shrunk a little bit since this graph was created. next slide, please. sworn full duty funding. this graph excludes airport numbers as compared to the recommended full duty staffing from the 2020 consulting study. pre-pandemic, our original budget submission in '21 included small increases to our sworn staffing and would have gotten us to that 2,706 recommended level, but with the pandemic from the reductions through the pandemic, we've lost 149f.t.e.s in 2021 and another 40f.t.e.s in 2022.
please note that approximately 200 ftes are set aside for other than full duty status. collectively, currently, we're 283 ftes short of the recommended staffing levels. next slide, please. next, i want to show where we are with our actual full duty sworn. as you can see, we're experiencing a steady decline of full-duty sworn from a peak of 1,869 in 2019 to the present level of 1,673. based on the actual, we're 503 officers below the recommend levels and also bear in mind there's another 500 officers who are eligible for retirement. next slide, please. since fiscal year '20 while we
did see an increase in fiscal year '22, it's not operational for today. when we compare the numbers of the consulting staff, basic consulting staffing recommendation, we're 300. what this means is we're not going to be able to reach the recommended level in the near term and what this translates to is that we're going to experience higher overtime usage to meet our calls for service. next slide, please. and this illustration, we see a
comparison of crime trends between 2020 and 2021. crimes are up in 2021 as compared to 2020. shooting incidents are up by 28%. homicide are up by 17%. property crimes are up 12%. the shortfall of over 500 officers really impacts our crime response efforts and when there's insufficient staffing, the department has to rely upon overtime as a means to supplement our existing staffing. next slide, please. so here's the impact to overtime would do to the lack of staffing. what this slide shows is a
five' this table shows that in fiscal year '18, that overtime was $18 million and dropped down to $6.8 million. the overtime contributing to the overtime city wide events such as new year's eve. staffing short falls, covid-19 infections. loss of unvaccinated staff and implementation of reformed policy that require additional staffing resources. next slide, please. on the prior slide, we discussed what our overtime budget has been. in this slide, we can take
comparison of what our ovrj has been in the past several years. what contributes to the use of overtime is the resource demand surges and also the lack of staffing resources with our recommended full duty staffing of 2,176, our staffing levels aren't sufficient to provide adequate support and public safety responses and scenarios that call for greater levels of deployment with them are existing staffing levels allow. and what's shown here in this slide are some of the major overtime categories for this year. next slide, please. so what are the staffing and overtime implications. with our overtime usage and our budget constraints due to the shortage of available staffing, this has a direct impact on our
operations. with a combination of staffing and overtime budget when it's insufficient to meet our operational needs, it help creates a budgetary balance which then leads to our budget deficit and this can lead to delays in academy class start times, delays of hiring and vacant positions. deferring the procurement of goods and services and limiting staffing deployment options. as we go into this budget cycle, our heavy focus is going to be on staffing. recruitment of new officers retaining existing staff and maintaining our powers in reform and some of that is going to be tied to improving our data analysis capability. with this ongoing budget cycle, we'll be focused on our hiring recruitments, overtime, technology, management and
analytical report and those will be our focused areas in the up coming funds and this next fund. this concludes my presentation if there's any questions from the commission i'd be happy to answer. >> president cohen: all right. i see commissioner byrne, commissioner e lias and anyone else? and commissioner hamasaki. >> commissioner byrne: thank you, president cohen. a few questions. first, is the pension reflected at all in the police budget? pension for the officers? retired officers? >> for the retired officers,
indirectly. so part of our personnel cost expense is that the retirement benefits that people pay into as an active employee. once they retire, once a member retires, then those costs are managed essentially through the department -- the retirement -- the city's retirement department in the retirement system. >> commissioner byrne: so then my question is, why is the personnel cost going up when the number of actual officers is going down? you look at fiscal 2019, the number of officers then and you look at fiscal '22, it's far more salary yet there's far
fewer officers. how do you explain that discrepancy? >> thank you for that question. a lot of it has to do with the cost of living adjustments, the m.l.u. agreements the city has with all the unions. and those are part of the collective bargaining process and that's handled by d.h.r. and the benefits -- it really translates to the increase cost of doing business. so each year, there's cost of living adjustments that everyone receives and as a department, we have to absorb those costs and that's primarily what you see in our budget numbers. all those increases are associated with cost of living adjustments and those increased -- the benefit increases.
>> commissioner byrne: just to follow up. you're talking for fiscal '19 about 2,048 officers versus 1,600 and something and yet you're saying that the cost of living explains that disparity? i don't think the policemen have got that huge of raise that you're talking about there. i don't understand it from the figures. >> can you clarify which slide you're looking at right now? >> commissioner byrne: so number 15, page 15 for fiscal 2019, it says that there were 2,048 officers and for fiscal '22, it's less than the 1893. i think the figure is 1,693.
yet for '19, we're looking at on slide ten, $438.7 million in personnel costs but with it looks like you know, 20% lower, at least 20% lower looking at $460.7 million. maybe i've read these figures wrong, but i am confused. >> i think part of it -- so on my presentation, i focused primarily on the sworn staffing primarily because we have such a shortfall on it. if you take a look at -- let me refer you to the correct slide.
on slide 13, that shows the total number of sworn ftes and also civilian ftes for the entire department. there is a reduction and sworn, but at the same time, there is an increase to our professional staff. so that might be kind of where some of those discrepancies also -- >> commissioner byrne: you're only talking of a difference of about 50 people there. >> if we go back -- can we go back to slide 11, if we can bring that up.
if we go to slide 11, i've spoken out the budgetary differences. on the top end, the second item are the cost of living adjustment thes that benefit increases. on the lower portion, we have the adjustments to the additions. so we have increases in fiscal year '19, and fiscal year '20. and there's a large reduction in fiscal year '21 and '22. those represent reductions. those represent the division cuts that we receive when the pandemic calls a recession and every department was instructed to cut 10% of their budget and also another 5% contingency.
what you see collectively on that second line for increases, for each year, total increases there they compound. >> commissioner byrne: i understand that. do you think that explains the difference then? it's just beyond ironic to me with that fewer officers that even when you add the civilian ftes and take it off, that payroll has gone up that much. that's my question. >> i will explain one thing is that if your question is on fiscal year '21 kind of went up so high. some of the increases, some of the increases were delayed.
within the collective bargaining, if there's provisions if the city's financial conditions, if they deteriorate by a certain amount, some of those cost of living adjustments defer by i think six months and so that i think perhaps that might be another difference where some of those variances do exist. the numbers that i show on slide 11 do represent the cost of living and the changes in position. those represent the vast majority of the budget changes. >> commissioner byrne: okay. i understand what you're trying to say, the numbers just don't make sense to me. thank you. >> president cohen: i was going to suggest that perhaps
maybe you can spend some time with commissioner byrnes off line to try to explain that. all right. i think it was commissioner elias and then we have commissioner hamasaki. >> vice president elias: thank you, president cohen. additionally, this is the first round of presentations with the budget so they will be coming back to give future presentations and perhaps this is an area you can also cover during your next presentation because i also too don't understand the numbers and your explanation, i'm not understanding it either because i thought the cost of living was a 3% increase but based on the numbers that he pointed out, it doesn't seem to be that. in any event, my question is with respect to slide -- well, you indicated that the recommendation is to have 2,176
officers according to the study of the audit, but that's not an adequate number. so my question is what is the needed number for an adequate supply? because you're saying that the audit says it's 2,176 but that's not adequate. so what is the needed amount? >> we are applying an update to the analysis. right now, that's still ongoing. at present, the consulting number of 2,176, that is still the present recommended staffing level and that's still valid for current purposes. >> vice president elias: but you don't have a number. you just know that 2,176 isn't
adequate. >> the current staffing level is not adequate for staffing needs. there are some changes that are needed, changes that have occurred since the consulting staffing study was performed. some of those changes are still actively being analyzed and we are working on an update to the report. >> vice president elias: okay. maybe perhaps when you come back again you can provide us with that number of what the number is to be adequate or what you think it should be and also too i think it would be helpful to know that of the number that you are going to propose in terms of what an adequate number is for staffing levels, i think that the breakdown should also be reflective of slide 26 which has a breakdown of the classification groups and how many officers are in each
category which i think is really helpful and if you look at slide 26, it indicates that, you know, it breaks it down to the command staff and a number of officers and i'm seeing that the number of officers are -- it says 1, 451. but i'm curious, how many officers are actually on patrol of that number? how many are patrolling and how many officers are in specialized units and how many officers are on the brady list which would prohibit, which would make it more difficult to put them on active patrol or to be utilized in a fashion that would require them to testify? so i think i'm not sure if you have that information readily available. >> i don't today. i think that's an item we can follow up on in our second
presentation we can create slides for responses to your concerns. >> vice president elias: great. thank you. those are all the questions that i had, president cohen. thank you. >> president cohen: thank you. commissioner hamasaki. >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you, president cohen. good evening. i had a few questions about the presentation. there's been a lot of talk about the need for overtime, but i don't know if this is a concept thing but is it possible to [ indiscernible ] officer using 10b time instead of working for the department? instead of when they get their assignments to guard safeway or whatever, would that free up
some capacity and do we have that capability? >> the current city limits between 10b and the city's overtime requirements, they are treated separately. so one shouldn't necessarily impact the other. within our staffing, the real issue we're experiencing is just primarily due to the level of understaffing that we currently have. we're 500 below the recommended staffing level. >> commissioner hamasaki: yeah. go ahead sorry. please continue. >> we're also facing challenges on the staff that are out due to covid infections.
>> commissioner hamasaki: okay. so if everybody wore a mask and follow proper protocols. >> those are already things that have already been communicated. >> commissioner hamasaki: right. >> we do have announcements throughout that are e-mailed department wide to reinforce the mandatory mask wearing and to provide best practices on social distancing, washing hands, etc. so those are recommendations that we do -- that are issued by the department. >> commissioner hamasaki: can i speak briefly. is discipline being imposed for the lack of mask wearing? because i'm all over the city and i've maybe 20% of the officers i see are wearing
masks. that's obviously anecdotal and take it for what it's worth. because if this really is impacting our staffing and public safety, how do we do everything we can to keep as many people from, you know, ending up out sick with covid? >> i think a large part of it is that -- >> commissioner hamasaki: i'm sorry. that's for the chief, real quick. >> police chief scott: yeah. thank you commissioner hamasaki. we've had a few employees not wearing masks. the rules changed in 2021, the masking was relaxed and then all of a sudden when the new variant we started getting stricter. so we're in that process now and it really changes quite often with the masking. >> commissioner hamasaki: i understand. i remember we talked about now that you raised that and i'm glad to hear that's been
tightened up. mr. leon, that was an interesting question regarding cost of living. there was a 6% raise last year. is that accurate? >> i'm sorry. i didn't catch that last part. >> commissioner hamasaki: there was a 6% raise that was given to sfpd as part of the renegotiated contract last year, so that could contribute to the cost of living that commissioner byrne was raising. >> yeah. i think part of it was delayed. >> commissioner hamasaki: delayed. >> yeah. just the cost of living that's why it was like 6%. i don't remember the specific time frame, but i do remember as part of the cola increases that [ indiscernible ] >> commissioner hamasaki: yeah. okay. i understand that. so i'm about done. the one thing that i would ask,
i know i was part of a matrix process and reviewed all along and read the final reports, not just the executive summary and i think we talked about this last year is that it contained a number of assumptions that have changed because of the mayor and the board of supervisors adding street crisis response teams, the ms6, overdose response team and things that really, you know, for the long term, i don't know how that's impacting short-term as far as response to calls. what is the low level category called? class c? is it possible to write some more analysis on that? it seems like and i don't know what the wright number of officers is. i think that's a very moving
target, but it seems like some of the pressure should have been taken off by all of these what i think are good programs to, you know, deal with. certain crisis that are nonpolice crisis that police have been tasked with over the years. if you could include some analysis as to how the impact of the nonpolicing responses have impacted calls for service. i think that would be helpful. and then one other question i had slide 20 of 27, this is the overtime expenses. this is the biggest category is for something called city wide safe shopper looting abatement, is that shoplifting? >> president cohen: real quick, what slide are you looking at, commissioner hamasaki? >> commissioner hamasaki:
sorry. 20 of 27. >> president cohen: got it. >> commissioner hamasaki: four bullet points from the bottom. i wonder if i can get some clarity to exactly what -- it's a big chunk by far -- what it exactly is. >> that's a combination of the safe shopper program. >> commissioner hamasaki: that's what i'm trying to understand what a safe shopper program is. >> it's also the union square would be the biggest piece of that. >> president cohen: that's a mayoral directive right, mr. young. the mayor put that forward. >> police chief scott: yeah. i can jump in on that. part of safe shopper is the union square deployment. we've been doing safe shopper for a number of years and it used to be funded by in some years private donations but
that also includes some of our retail theft initiatives to slow down the pace of these run in the store, take property type of things that were happening long before this november incident. so it's a combination of union square and things that we were doing already to try to abate some of what was happening with our retail community including things like deployment for commission and the retail establishment there and other parts of the city. that's what the safe shopper is and it's really not a new initiative for the department. how it's funded has changed over the last five years to how it's funded. we don't get the donations that we used to get. >> commissioner hamasaki: is it accurate now with this number, i never got the number from you. i had to go ask some other people, but that one-week deployment in union square cost
the city close to a million dollars, $800 and something thousand. >> police chief scott: that report was in the beginning to about a week and a half into it. but i think it was for the first eight or ten days, do you remember exactly, patrick? >> yeah. it was around that time. >> commissioner hamasaki: is that number in the ball park? >> police chief scott: it is, yes. >> commissioner hamasaki: to a big chunk of this is that one week and maybe a few more days in union square? is that accurate? i'm sorry. is that accurate? >> it's over -- i'd have to look to confirm, but these numbers would be year to date.
i will say that early on, it was about we were turning about $800,000 per week, but seeing how that changed from week to week, i'd have to look back to confirm. >> commissioner hamasaki: okay. i'll assume that union square deployment has come down from that, from $800,000 a week. okay. i don't have anything else. we're very early in the process and those of us that have been around these budgets for a minute. we understand it's an ongoing process. thank you. >> police chief scott: president cohen, if i may. i can answer at least most of commissioner elias' question about how many officers are on patrol and this is our latest full duty report. field operations has as of
january 7th, 1, 184 full-duty officers, community engagement and the operations bureau. it's 1,184. the grand total of officers in full operation is 1,229 and the difference are nine officers on disability leave. 23 officers on some type of temporary modified duty. four on medical leave. five on military leave. one officer is on leave. so that's the difference between the 1,229 and the 1,184. for comparison purposes, the entire department excludeing the airport, there are 1,665 full-duty officers. so the difference between 1,665
and 1,184 is everything else in the department. administrative, everything else. except for the airport. the airport is not in those numbers. >> vice president elias: thank you, chief. i'm sorry, president cohen, my other question i forgot to ask is on the slide it has part of the training in contractor vendor. i'm wondering how much is specifically earmarked -- what's the current training budget and what increases are you asking for for the up coming year? because i know that a lot of reforms, we want to reform the department, but that requires training and so i'm wondering how that's going to be affected or what you're asking for in terms of more money for your
budget. >> current training budget is approximately $1.6 million and this covers the vast majority of it covers the training that occurs in our academy for academy classes and for continuing education. i don't see $1.6 million on the general fund side. >> vice president elias: are you asking to increase that? increase your training budget? >> it's one of the areas we're looking at. we haven't come up with any, we're still having internal discussions on it. we don't have any -- we haven't come up with anything firm, but it's part of our overall discussions. >> vice president elias: maybe you can explain that even more the next time you present because i think as we see some of the d.g.o.s are unable to be
implemented because the officers have to be trained before we can get them going. so if we can speed that process up, i think that would also be helpful. >> i know part of it from the past ones, i do remember like say when we had the crisis intervention training that part of the roll-out was to try to roll it out faster. part of it was to do that through the use of overtime because part of it is not just the cost for trainers to come out, but it's also having time available for all the members to attend the trainings across all the different shifts etc. >> vice president elias: great. thanks.
>> commissioner yee: vice president elias, can i ask a question there? >> vice president elias: i'm so sorry, commissioner yee. >> commissioner yee: i just want to ask the 1,176 officers what does that dollar amount increase to on your i guess your general funds personnel cost in any of the slides? >> so it is -- it's represented in slide -- let's see. if you go to slide 10. >> commissioner yee: okay i'm there. >> it would be part of the personnel cost. it is grouped in with the cost for our professional staff, but it is. so in fiscal year '22, it would be part of that $460 million.
we don't have it broken out specifically, the specific portion that's for sworn ftes, but it would be inclusive of the $460 million that you see on personnel cost. >> commissioner yee: and then for i guess '21, you have total cost is $570 million, but your personnel cost is $$459 million is that correct? >> yes. >> commissioner yee: and that's for 2,176 officers. and in actuality, we are not there. we're down how many officers for this year?
>> we're down over 500. >> commissioner yee: over 500 and what does that cost, 500 officers? i can't do it off the top of my head. >> commissioner yee: you can probably come back to that: if we don't have the officer matrix recommendation, it went down, i guess our budget should reflect that and then the question i had was on the overtime for 2019 which went through the roof i'm looking at fiscal year '20, it was $25 million.
over 19 is there an explanation for the difference? >> i know part of. so what happened in fiscal year '20, we have [ indiscernible ] deployment. there was some overtime associated with the covid-19. some of the work surrounding like enforcement of social distancing, the security of some of the covid testing sites that there were some costs that in the latter half of the year associated with it. >> commissioner yee: okay. i guess is that something we get reimbursed back from the city -- not from the city --
>> there are, yes. we do some for those. >> commissioner yee: would that reflect in the budget, the mutual aid i guess getting reimbursed back for it? >> yeah. it isn't something that's budgeted. >> commissioner yee: i'm not asking if it's budgeted. do we receive it back so we can justify why we're spending so much on some of these. that's what i'm looking at. if we're spending resources and we're not getting back the money, the question i ask is why and then if somebody if it is coming back to the general fund, we can know why from the general funds. that's all i have to say. thank you, madam president.
>> president cohen: okay. thank you. so quick question about the tenderloin -- first of all, i wanted to know what budget rules did the mayor's office give you? >> i'm sorry, president cohen, with respect to -- >> president cohen: usually the budget director will say we'll cut your budget by 6%, 10%, 12%. what were the budget rules that you were given? >> so this year the mayor's budget instructions for each department is that there are no mandatory reductions required. so they -- the intention was for every department to keep within their existing budget and to not expect increases in general funds not through the departments. >> president cohen: and this is despite record number
budgets both on the state level and on a local level. >> those are the budget instructions provided city wide. >> president cohen: okay. >> there were three budget instructions that outlined the city wide budget instructions for every department. >> president cohen: okay. and i want to go back to the staffing study and i was wondering, what's the status of it? you know, where is it? it's kind of hard to have a budget conversation when we don't really have the study in front of us. the reason why i'm asking also for members of the public is that prop e ties the recommended staffing level to the staffing study and i want to start to get away from going off the matrix. so my question is how do you justify staffing levels in the
budget without first completing that study? >> police chief scott: i can try to answer that, president cohen. the first question is where are we on this process. we are toward the end of the analysis that the commission will get and we have planned to have that in the first quarter of this year and we believe we will make that promise. in terms of the methodologies that are used, i mean some of this is really replicating the methodologies that were used by the matrix consulting firm which is part of what they were being paid to do which is to give us the ability to do this type of staffing analysis, so it does take a lot of work though even though they created the methodologies, all the research that goes into the information that feeds into those methodologies is very
intensive. we've loned people to that task at the risk of other things not getting done, but that has been done and we are on schedule to get that. we'll be within hopefully next month. i think we promised it the first part of this year which we have an updated meeting next week and we'll -- we should be able to get it to the commission as promised. >> president cohen: and that you said by the first quarter of this year? >> police chief scott: yes. >> president cohen: okay. all right. i look forward to that. if there are no other questions. i think we can just keep moving. we've got a pretty heavy agenda. director henderson. okay. >> director: can you hear me now? am i muted. i was just going to suggest this might be another good opportunity, i know we've raised it in past months on the
accountability matrix with answering questions like this when they come up and float. it may be another time to revisit that or in the meantime, i'd like to volunteer to work with my staff because we do a summary anyway just to summarize all of these questions that have been made so we can get specific answers. i've been jotting down the cost of living versus the budget the training budget, the cost differentiation between overtime cost and then the brady and the value of the officers that are assigned are on the brady list that aren't doing the patrol. i can summarize those and pass those along to the commission, but i would again urge us to adopt the accountability matrix that tracks these things regularly so we don't lose things as they're coming along. i just don't know if that would help these conversations along
so that we know we're getting answers in the future and not having to address them all at once because these are big topics to be kind of tackled and we -- i know that a lot of these questionings put the department on the spot to scramble and come up with answers that can't be answered on the fly. that's just a suggestion. >> president cohen: okay. you said that you're going to work with your staff to produce that? >> director: i'm just going to submit the questions that were raised from today but just to remind us if we have the facility matrix that we kick down the road to come back to put it back on the agenda, it would capture all of these things so that moving forward, we at least knew what was going on and to track it more readily and could schedule either the answers, the research, or the response both from d.p.a. and from the department. just try to go more efficient.
>> president cohen: all right. i appreciate the suggestion of efficiency. let's see what you come up with. we welcome it. and so let's go ahead and go to public comment on this discussion item. >> clerk: thanks, president cohen. if you'd like to make public comment regarding line item six, the department budget process, please dial star three now. and it looks like there is no public comment. >> president cohen: great. please call item ten. >> clerk: line item ten. public comment on all matters pertaining to item twelve below, closed session including public comment online item eleven, vote on whether to hold item twelve in closed session.
>> president cohen: let's go to public comment. >> clerk: dial star three if you would like to make public comment. and, president cohen, there's no public comment. >> president cohen: all right. great. let's call item eleven. >> clerk: line item eleven, vote on whether to hold item twelve in closed session, san francisco administrative code section 67.10, action. >> vice president elias: motion. >> commissioner: second. >> president cohen: call the vote. >> clerk: i'm sorry, president. >> president cohen: please call the vote. we've got a motion and an action by elias, seconded by yee. >> clerk: on the motion to go into closed session, [roll call]
>> vice president elias: chief, i don't think you're muted. >> police chief scott: i'm sorry. yes i am. i'm sorry. >> president cohen: no problem. >> commissioner hamasaki: always working. that's good. >> clerk: [roll call] president cohen, you have a unanimous vote. >> president cohen: all right. thank you. let's go to closed session.