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don't need that on the west side because i think this is one of the key sources of contention with the neighborhood advocates on the west side is that we also need to have that unlimited seawater available in major fire incidents which we know is coming up in the coming years. >> supervisor, the reason is because of late merced. lake merced provides the same backup the seawater does on eastside. if there was a lake merced on the east side would be we would be happy to go there first but there's not so latemerced with its large volumeprovides disability that if worst-case scenario , huge fire , post seismic , we have to use every good water source and we
effectively have to sort pumps on the east side that's when it would be and it hasdays of water that can be provided for firefighting to meet the demand . >> got it, thank you. and then i just had a question around the demand. so there was a separate study done earlier that's also referenced in theplanning study about the 2050 demand . of 255,000 gallons per minute. and so that's more than tripling what the current system was able to provide. so is that 255,000 gallons per minute demand by 2050 going to be met by potable water sources or does that also, the demand projection also does the plan
reject using feed water pump as a source to meet that demand? >> i like asked my colleague meyerson to jump in and answer that. i want to make sure we give the correct answer here. are you on the line andcould you please jump in and answer this question if possible ? >> date meyerson, sfpuc project manager. as john described in the systems there will be both potable water sources tend seawater sources. in fact on the east side we will have to develop more seawater sources so you're going to have a combination of sources providing the 255,000 gallons per minute . >> thank you. >> i'm looking at one slide about water supply sources.
it says there's approximately 60,000 gallons per minute of new sea water supply required for the conventional ef ws. i'm assumingthat's part of the 255,000 demand projection . what is the seawater supply required for the west side or the potable efwf. >> that's 90,000 gallons per minute but we need to meet the demands on the potable. that can be met through potable supplies combined with lake merced. that's what option one is stating that we can meet those through those sources and those options two and three are othe ways to meet that 90,000 gallons per minute . so it's the same performance for all three options, just
different water sources, different costs, different challenges. >> chair: got it. this is helpful just understanding this be complex plan. for the lake merced source that is for the potable efwf on the west side, is that only going to be used in a similar situation as the seawater pumping system for the conventional efws? only in the eye and, probably after a major earthquake. >> that's correct. >> okay, and then i have one, a few final questions around the host tenders. that was also part of the board
of supervisors resolution urging the departments to come up with a plan to acquire what was projected those 20 tenders that are needed as soon as possible because that placed such an important role in the interim until we get the full efws system built out and i know the host tenders are using the fightthat we have on a regular routine basis . so deputy chief o'connor, i know you're here. if you could talk about what the plan is to acquire the what was requested 20 or so tenders that are needed. i know we havecurrently we have five that are really aging and outdated . >> good morning. deputy chief of the fire department. we're currently in contract for
three new tenure with the midpoint of inspection right now with a company called rose and ballard inminnesota . we expect delivery of the first fund by december of this year. from there we will take you on our round of tests to make sure that codes work and we can build two additional ones and then we have funding for two more where we would extend that contract for a total of five new tenders within the next few years. that would bring us up to a total of 10 posts tenders that we currently have. and then it becomes a little tricky going forward where we don't have the room in our current infrastructure to house an additional 10 tenders. right now we have 64 fire engines and fire trucks for a fleet of 64 apparatus so havin 20 more , their increasing our fleet by third and we just don't have the infrastructure
so we have to talkfunding for additional facilities going forward . impossible but along with everything else it requires more resources from the board of supervisors that's where we stand right now with all the spenders. >> thank you deputy chief . when do you expect the five host tenders that arecurrently , we have a budget for it tobe brought online ?>> the first will be online in september and thereafter we're going to build up the next two within three months of that so by the end of 2022 three we would have three additional ones. and then there would be contracted for two more by 2024 we have five additional ones for a total of 10 posts tenders in our system. >> then what about the five outdated ones that we have right now denmark i believe there over 30 years old . will those continue to be
usable until we can bring additional new ones online? >> we've got to not do it but we can keep them in service until we get the total fleet of new ones here. >> i think similar to the bigger project, the full buildout of ef ws we need a financing plan i think for the timeline for the acquisitions as well so i look forward to working with you and nicholson and the department on that because this is also an extremely urgent project to move forward with to ensure safety and fire response in the unprotected neighborhoods of efws so thank you chief deputy. i don't have anyother questions right now . supervisor stefani.>> thank
you chair. i want to thank you for your continued attention to this and the advocates who have been after this for so long. i don't have any questions because you asked them all and i look forward if there's any public comment but again thank you for your continued attention and i know we will continue to focus on and get more answers so thank you. >> want to goto public comment .>> members of the public who wish to speak on this item and are joining us in person shoul line up to speak now . you do have one person in the chamber. >> thank you, nancy. i wanted to comment on the source of money that's my specialty. we can have a new developer impact fee for supporting the
infrastructure forfirefighting as well as the water supply . the puc already has a chart for capacity when you have a new development that is for the connection to having the little low pressure hydrants connected so since they've already established that capacity then we can haveone for the high pressure hydrants .there's a piece of money the planning department and approved an extract from developers and even though they have infrastructure they build within their project they do not pay a dime to get the water from where it is to them so that's the fee. the second thing is ilike to stress there is no plan b . if anything goes wrong with these plans and thank you supervisor mar for your insightful questions. i want to make sure you understand if anything goes wrong and we don't understand
that we have misunderstood the aftershocks etc. and we need to have another source of water out on the west side so there is a continuing need for a thing called unlimited water. we cannot just limit our water to thegallons you've discussed . wehave to have access to all the water wecan need so we don't burn down again . you for this wonderful hearing . >> seeing nobody in person in the chamber those ofyou listening virtually if you would like to make a public comment at this time please call 415-655-0001 .enter the meeting id of 2492 077744. press pound twice. once connected you can press star three to get into the queue.at this time we have one speaker or sorry, one person listening only in and zero people in the queue.
and there's one person on the queue, i apologize.please begin your comment now. >> my name is john. i've lived a couple decades in sunset district 40th and roberto. just a few comments. i saw thought that since we're in a drought it would be nice to have something other than our potable water to fight fires with just on a regular basis before the big earthquake. also i was wondering if we're going to have enough water in reservoirs here to have our potable water has to be shipped by law to san mateo county and then have a major earthquake.
with my service in the navy i'm very well aware of what the puc's concerns arewith corrosion and saltwater . there are ways to mitigate saltwater corrosion. and damage from saltwater. it would be nice to have a dedicated saltwater system. that would not have to be decontaminated. after being used. there's also if we get this thing built, there may be reductions in our san francisco fire departments iso rating and insurance service organization that has an impact on everyone's insurance which multiplied by all the buildings in san francisco would amount
to 1 millions in savings each year for san francisco residents. thank you . >> you for your comments. we havetwo people in the queue . in thevirtual queue . can i please put the color forward. >> good morning supervisor. just want to thank you for bringing and pushing for this really important safety measure for the west side and i'm particularly act obligated subject. i don't pretend to understand all of it . there's a lot of technical information but i am particularly interested in focused on the host discussion. happy to see more of these will become available so it's going to be a long time for the permanent infrastructure is in
place. 2034 is a long ways away. and i know this is more comments than questions but i'd be interested in hearing more from the fire department deputy chief about the type of infrastructure facilities that would be needed to house the 10 additional host as a stopgap an interim measure for projects again that is all about plans. there's nothing on theground yet . that's my question and my input. thank you very much for ensuring that we move forward withprotecting the city from the next big earthquake . >> next color.
>> speaker: my name is erica and i'm in the west side in district 4. thankyou supervisor mar that this is on the agenda . i happen to have heard by accident the grand jury report a few years ago and i've been concerned. so i also don't understand all the technicalities here but i would hope that grant writing would be focused on the fire department on this issue especially with the surplus we now have on the state level and the big money that we hear about on the federal level that we need to get in front of that and hopefully are. it's possible we are but i wonder if there's a way to push that forward more and in terms of the whole seawater issue í saltwater issue on the west side i'm talking about now. and the approvals by the coastal commissions that will be needed that i heard could take decades.
would it be a good idea to put a plan maybe plan g together about the salt, possible saltwater usage and start the process of talking to the coastal commission?because the longer it sets it becomes something that needs to be used or put in the plan. we should start that decades long process soonerrather than later .thank you everybody. >> thank you for your public comment and for any members of the public. there are no public commenters. >> public comment is closed. i again want to thank all of
the community advocates who can bring in the alarm about this issue for years and also the citywide dfw expansion coalition. really they've been pushing us to act with more urgency and thank you to the puc, fire department andoffice of planning for your work on this issue . in response to i think the calls from the community and the board of supervisors to make this a higher priority in our city. that's going to continue to be one of my top priorities given that the entire district is unprotected and but it's also so important for many other in the entire west side and southeastern neighborhoods in our city. i will be pushing for the creation of a real financing plan. to ensure that we can get the job done by 2034. that's called for and i'llbe
following up with the department about that . i will be pushing for a real plan for the tender acquisitions that are necessary in the interim. to protect that unprotected neighborhood from the fws. they haven't seemed adequate on average. and yes, this is obviously going to be a costly expensive project to move forward. it's helpful to have the actual cost projections included in the planning study but i think we all know that it's going to be even more costly if we don't act with greater urgency to address this major infrastructure project in terms of loss of property and life in our city so thanks again everyone for this hearing and i would like to move that we continue this to the call of the chair.
as they made deposits in their savings accounts. i am thrilled to say families in san francisco have more than $11 million saved in college in the kindergarten to college account. i extend appreciation to the bryant elementary school staff who worked to make today happen. i don't think ms. cole is here. she is an amazing first grade teacher. when she heard about the field trip she personally raised funds so each student would have at least $30 to deposit today. graduates supported every student to help and many others across the city to put money into the college savings accounts. i confess in 2011 then mayor gavin newsom and i started the program so every student would
have a future worth saving for. more important than money. the $11 million means there has been millions of conversations in every household that these students live in about their possibility of going to college. that is the purpose of this program. [applause]. the research, real research showed that putting money into college savings, a lot or little begins a conversation that ends up with children going to college. that is what we want to happen for every child in san francisco. kindergarten to college pro boats college-going identity in the public schools. san francisco is not alone in the program. k-c is across the country with over 100 active college savings
accounts today reaches 1.2 million kids in 39 states in this country. in 2019 california created california kids a statewide program for every child born in california. governor newsom expanded in 21-22 budget with investment of nearly $2 billion. [applause]. that funding has resulted in our program providing additional funds to the accounts of students in low income schools. i would be remiss if i didn't pitch the governor and legislature to make sure that is continued and revised for an added boost to the college savings account. the best person to speak about this program are the students themselves. i am here, proud that tulea
miller is here with us today. she is a junior at gateway high school. she is part of the first class of k-c students and she is here to help you hear about how k-c is impacting her future. please come on up. [applause]. >> hi, i am tulea miller, i am a junior in high school. when i found out it was in kindergarten. i didn't think of it as something. as i got in middle school and high school i started to think about it, and how i really thought about it was in tenth grade when i applied for the video contest about my future. i talked how i wanted to be a apsychiatrist.
i was second place in the city-wide competition. that is why i am here today. in the fall i will apply to colleges. these funds will really help me out. it means i am working towards my goals. my plans when i go to college major in social work to be a travel social worker to able to travel and help people with traumatic experiences. the college application takes work. many high school seniors go through it in the fall. it is only because some students may not qualify for scholarships or grants or don't know what they want to pursue. i want to apply to 20 colleges. there are factors to consider which are financial aid,
housing, location and other aspects. i got early acceptance to charles drew in los angeles. [applause]. i am a college-bound student. i also work at old navy. i am part of in field scholars. as a black scholar i like to put myself with honors classes. i took college classes last summer. if i am able to change a couple laws, i would ban act and sat because it keeps minorities out of colleges. i feel like a test score shouldn't derm where you go
within the three hour test period. thank you for having me. [applause] >> thank you. we are impressed by your success. we can't wait to see where your dreams take you. now another truly impressive graduate of the san francisco unified school districts our own mayor, london breed. [applause]. >> mayor breed: i am happy to celebrate over 10 years of a program that will have an extraordinary impact on the lives of so many san francisco kids who we know we need to make investments to support. i love hearing tulea's story and her story of pursuing higher education. i am in agreement with the a ct what is it sat and when i was in college we had to take act and
sat. at the time i didn't have money for the fees. what i appreciate most is my college counselor at galileo high school providing me guidance and support and understanding. i had no idea. those applications cost 30 to $50. there were fees for that. when i think about young people who are growing out without means to not only afford some of the things required to get into college. what happens when you go there? what happens when you have to start buying your own toilet paper and taking responsibility if you are lucky enough to have parents and family to support you there are so many kids with those options. this program was innovative when the then mayor gavin newsom started with our treasure who is
still our treasurer. the fact we are here with the state treasurer who is a money masterminds in counting numbers in her head and coming up with things to do stuff in california is remarkable. we are here mostly because we have to think about not just the pressing challenges that exhibit n front of us. how do we make sure the next generation of young people in the city, state, country know there is real opportunity for them to succeed? sometimes making these early investments which won't see the fruits of our labor until after we are out of office is not sometimes very popular for many politicians to do even though i think jose might still be treasurer. the fact is we do it because we believe in it. we support it. it started with our then mayor
governor newsom taking it to the other level to support kids throughout the entire state. it continues through my budget as mayor and future mayors will support this program. i have to tell you i am anxious to see the first kid and i am hoping that it is tulea the first kid using those dollars and using those dollars to enter college but hopefully to help her throughout her entire four year time when she is in college because college is expensive. it is a huge undertaking. the debt from student loans and if you are lucky to get scholarships, those things are going to have a tremendous impact on the success of anyone who makes it through this program. i am looking forward to seeing this program continue. i am glad we are here to
celebrate 10 years, $11 million over 130 programs all over the country. 36 states. this is absolutely extraordinary. it started right here in san francisco, california. [applause]. on behalf of the city and county of san francisco i want to officially declare the kindergarten to college day in san francisco today for you, for the treasurer and i would like to introduce our governor who as i said came up with so many innovative programs when he was mayor. he has taken many of those programs and expanded them for all of the citizens of the state of california and has made not only kindergarten to college a priority but ensuring that kids have access to child care that
they are taken carry of in the early days of their existence on this earth is something that is remarkable. i don't see very many leader in the state and country talking what we need to do to invest kids and support throughout their entire times until they get to college and off on their careers. we have a governor who beliefs in that. ladies and gentlemen, please welcome governor gavin newsom. >> the state treasure signs my paycheck. she can go before me. [applause] >> thank you very much. it is my honor to be here. i want to thank publicly then mayor gavin newsom and the treasurer for starting this innovative program. we say san francisco. we like to lead.
we do things that nobody else has ever done. then it becomes a state wide and national program. this is what this k-c program is starting to become. i want to thank governor newsom and the legislator for putting $2 billion into new programs. you can announce it i won't steal his thunder. this adds ministration focused on the getting kids out of childhood poverty. so many children are hungry, with no place to sleep, and going to college is the priority. making sure that they are not burdened by high student loan debt. as the treasurer, i am the banker and oversee the 529 program. even during the pandemic over the last two years, more parents have opened up accounts for their young children.
it is never too early or late to save for college. i thank all of you for being here. i thank our wonderful mayor london breed for her leadership on so many issues that impact every day californians. thank you. [applause] >> i will thank the treasure and i will thank mayor breed for the privilege of coming back in the same space where this initiative was announced a little over 11 yearsal. i see some reporters that i think you were there and you are still here as well. what i am so proud of and impressed by is the commitment of jose cisneros and his team to this program. i say that because the success of this program was not predetermined. we had done something no other state had done at the time.
we had the obama administration tipping the hat to the best practice hope and expectation to stretch the minds of our children. we made the point 11 years ago. i recall saying this at the press conference kicking this off. once a mind is stretched it never goes back to the original form. the college going mind set at a very young age we believed would have a profound impact. little did we know the data collected since in small pilot programs not just san francisco buts across the country and the world have not only proven that construct but have allowed us an opportunity to understand that the impact was far greater than we ever could have imagined. this motion you are three times more likely to go to college even with moders december amount of money in a savings account.
four times more likely to graduate with even as little as $500 in a savings account is something that we asserted but couldn't necessarily prove over a decade ago. this program has been incredibly impactful. jose said it well. the notion of all conversations that would have never taken shape with householdses. opportunity to have a savings account and the dignity that comes with that. well over half the folks in public education don't have access to checking and savings yet their child has the account in their name. dignity and respect from that. this is not just about college going mind set it is about as mayor breed said addressing the issue that has defined so many other issues in the state and
nation addressing the disparities that persist in the city, state and in our country. not just issues around income but wealth. we talk so much about income and equality not enough about wealth disparities. this is about closing wealth gaps. this is if creating conversations around financial literacy. why we can't figure this out as a nation is beyond me. the basics. balance, checking or savings account. you have to have one to be able to balance it. i am proud of this city. close to 50,000 accounts, $11 million is great. 50,000 opportunities. it is a great pathway. you met one young lady. i can't believe we are back. you are so old now. junior, soon to be senior heading off to college.
that is extraordinary. we are proud. i will close on this that success because of your faith, devotion and commitment to this cause gave us the ability to go to the california legislature to make the case we could bring this to every part of california. 3.5 million accounts will be established in the next 60 days. in july of this year 3.5 million california residents start with $500 in their savings. some kids get up to $1,500 in their savings account. in other jurisdiction in the world has ever done something like this. $2 billion. the good news to jose's point and strong advocacy of the
treasurer. we got the support of the legislature to approve this program going forward. this is not one. we are doing minimum of 300,000 new accounts every single year after establishing the baseline of 3.5 million accounts. we mean business. this is a big idea and we think it will have a big impact in this state and nation. (applause). we are proud of it. i am excited and honored to be back here at home. mayor, it is so true. the future happens here first. you are in so many ways the city and county america's coming attraction not just state of california. i love that about this city. you are the future of this as they say. we are planning a much brighter
you're watching san francisco rising with chris manors. today's special guest is jeff tumlin. >> hi, i'm chris manors and you're watching san francisco rising. the show on starting, rebuilding, and reimagining our city. our guest is jeff tumlin and he's with us to talk about our transportation recovery plan and some exciting projects across the city. mr. tumlin welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. >> i know the pandemic was particularly challenging for the m.t.a. having to balance between keeping central transportation routes open, but things have improved. how are we doing with our transportation recovery plan? >> so we just got good news this week. we're getting an extra $115 million from the american rescue plan and this is basically the exact amount of
money we finally needed in order to close the gap between now and november of 2024 when we'll have to find some additional revenue sources in order to sustain the agency. in the meantime, i finally have the confidence to be able to rapidly hire, to restore services and to make sure muni is there for san francisco's larger economic recovery because downtown san francisco doesn't work without muni. >> quite right. i guess the other impact of the pandemic was that some projects like the valencia bike improvements had to be put on hold. are we starting to gear up on those again? >> yes, so it's an interesting case study. of right before covid hit, we were about ready to invest in quick build bike lanes. arguably the most important bike order in san francisco.
that got stopped with lockdown and then as you'll recall, during covid, we invented all kinds of other new programs like shared spaces in order to support our small businesses as well as sunday street light events for neighborhood commercial streets where streets were closed off to cars and turned over to commercial activity. those successes now that they've been made permanent actually interrupt the draft design we had put together. so we've gone back to the drawing board and we are looking forward to having some additional community conversations about other design ideas for valencia. we're committed to completing a quick build project on this calendar year. >> that's such good news. valencia is a really great street for biking. so there are two huge and exciting projects that are about to be or have just been completed. let's talk about the bus rapid transit project on van ness avenue. how extensive have the
improvements been? >> what's called the van ness transit rapid project is in fact more about complete reconstruction of the street and most importantly, the 100-year-old utilities underneath the street. so all of the water, sewer, telecommunications, gas lines under the street were basically rebuilt from market street all the way to lumbard. the part on the surface which provides dedicated bus lanes for golden gate transit and muni, that was relatively straight forward and we're so excited we're going to start revenue service for muni on april 1st. >> that's fantastic. i understand there were some sidewalk improvements too. >> there were sidewalk improvements. we planted 374 trees. there is new storm water treatment including infiltration in the sidewalk, there's a bunch of art.
there's all kinds of things. we put in new street lights for the entire corridor. >> finally, the other big news is about the central subway. can you briefly describe the project and give us an update. >> yes, so the central t-line project, another stop at union square that connects directly into powell station and a final stop in the heart of chinatown at stockton and washington. that project has also run into challenges. it's 120' under muni, under bart, 120' down and out under chinatown in some unexpectedly challenging soils. but that project is nearly complete. it's at about 98% completion right now which means we're
testing trains, we're testing the elevators and escalators and the final electronics and we're still on track to open that in october presuming all of the testing continues to go well. so fingers crossed on in a one. we're really looking forward to allowing people to have a subway ride from the heart of chinatown all the way to the convention center to the caltrans station and all the way down to bayview and visitation valley. >> it's great to see all these projects coming to completion. we're all grateful for your team's hard work and i really appreciate you coming on the show, mr. tumlin. thank you for the time you've given us today. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me. >> and that's it for this episode. for sfgov tv i'm chris manors. thanks for
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