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defense unsubstantiated claims. >> as far as guess -- you know,sha something f u.s. intelligence -- >> activity. >> the speaker of the house. >>this. >> the republican house intel chair. at t>>et took place. >> the top democrat on the hous basis for director james comey will testifytomorrow on spy cla russia's role in
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election. the ranking democrat onchiff of california joins me this hat budget blueprint. decreases in domestic nding forp programs for the givpo you money for programs that don't >> president trump's budgetsere this morning. can president trump win overll ? i will talk to a republican no vote this morning,coins of main. joining me ared columnist george will, yamiche alcindor of costa of the washington post and anchor of bbc world news katty kay. welcome to sunday. >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest runnihi celebrating its year this is "meet the press" with chuck
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todd. '60s that they mornin term credibility gap ane people skeptical of president johnson' vietnam. now donald trump is facing similarroisthe u.s. what began with claims on trivial matters as whether his inauguon were biggent obama's - weren't -- have turned into something more koconsequential. they have been redefining president trump's insistence president obama had himwiretapp. he took a swipe at the national security agency f on german chancellor angela merkel's phone conversations. this week thepocy of ready, fir cause an i when the u.s. peddled a claim that they spied on mr. trump. james comey will testify today
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before the house intelligence committee where he'll be asked about election. the president's credibility issues are ggglirong to sell hi >> as far as wiretapping, i guess by -- you ast administration -- at least we have something in commonside tr again on friday that president obamadpped despite unambiguous statements from republican leaders whole -- who would know. this. >> i haven't seen evidence of this. >> now thete sean spicer used te e po unverified claim by a fox news commentator that it was britain's spy agency that monitored mr. obama's behalf. >> he's able to get it. there is no amerithis.
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>> he's able to get it and there are no american fingerprints on nonsense, utterly ridiculous. the white house is refusing to we regret anything. >> all we did was certain very talented was the o saying that on television. >> he's referring to fox commentator andrew napalitano but fox news wee since mr. trump tweeted the allegations the presidentnd go. >> the president has been clear wiretapping. he had it in quotes. >> let's seen't ihoose to do it >> the claims are strng republi just at the time he needs a pus through congress. presidency, that agenda looks stuck in the mud. the president's travel
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ban, blocked again. this time by federryland. >> we ought to go back to the first one and go what i wanted the first place. the rocks with a house vote scheduled for thursday. the presitting republicans to y. >> every singling person sitting in this room is now a yes. >> the changes recommended by the house budget committee -- givi require able-bodied medicaid recipients to work ideedal care. and further lding. freedom caucusseatives say they need further changes before they support the bill. >> i have been fullyngy problem about two weeks. i don't know that thosavs changed to placate conservatives they risk losing another moderate in the senate. >> we want to be there for constituents who received the benefit of medicaid expansion.
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>> in addition to health care there is president trump's calls for significant increases for the defense department, homeland security and the department of veterans afi firf while makingepa, the state agricultural labor departments all taking bigbudge. joining me now is the director of the office of management mul. good morning. >> thanks for having me. >> on the surveilling do you take the president at his word iate o were wiretapped? >> i thought it was tongue in cheek. i'm the numbers guy, doing the budget. i'm not involved in the wire thatting issue. >> on one hand are you concerned that eroding credibility on that issue makes your job harder in congress? >> those of us who see and work with the president believe him, trust him have no press do. >> you don't think this is a ff take the president at his
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word on health care. te my wordr it. some of these folks are out on a thursday or friday in the oval office. the president had a clear argument, got folks to commit to the bill. it was a credible discussion. >> i want to start on the budget with something you said in and first to say something like this, remember, a budgetin docu. it is also a vision document. that does whack a lot of this domestic program, some which a lot of people benefi emphasis o security. >> the vision is that this is what the president ran on. he's trying to do politicians aren't famous for which is following through on his promises. y which is what we did -- look at his speeches, interviews, talk to him and say whhe message the
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president was trying to deliver. that meant more money for defense, more moneyborder. more money for law enforcement generally and more money for things like veterans' affairs, veterans' health carend public choice. that's where we spent more money. the president didn't deficit th. when we added the we took that from other places. that's the vision. more money for president said without adding to the deficit. >> he saidaref those people, won't let people go untaken care of. after story programs that benefit his voters and at here. why do that? >> some of the stories are just wrong about how we cut meals on wheels. the program we eliminate accounts for 3% of the meals on wheels funding across
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the nation. step bac getting rid of the block grant that it provides. >> it ontarly provides 3% of me on wheels money. that wasn't broadly re voters. the president knows who the voters are. well. for the first time in a long time you have an administration looking at the compassion of both sides of thehe compassion s of where the money go bus in terms of where the money comes from.on, could i as a budget director look at a coal miner in west give money to the federal government so i can give toyota the national endowment for the arts. we finally got to the point in that.dministration where we you owe $60,000 to the government. so do i in terms of the debt. the president said both sides equation. >> some cuts seem counter productive to the president's message on infrastructure.
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spending on infrastructure at some point. you are cutting advanced technology,ufacturing extension partnership which provides assistance to small and mid sed ground to create jobs in prothesams and why do working later in the year. we'll do health rhe house. then tax reform. so thanfrastructure to summer or early fall. we tried to find out where wt ty wasn't being spent as efficiently as it could and said let's take it out of the discretionary budget to put it back in the infrastructure bill. we think it is a better use of american resours. issue. you said one of the president's goals wasn't to add to the deficit but this budget will have a deficit. is that fair to say? >> sure. the deficit before we came into $4ce billion. this year according to the
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additional money on defense, increased spending on the es >> i want to play do want a bal nothing in this bge blueprint is and this is allt is as you mentioned rouly tr budget process whe t zero.e of >>caave you figured out how to ture yet? >> no. one of the neat things about having a businessman in office and all of the folks come from the private sector is they have brought ideas that i don't think government has contemplated before. public/private partnerships, ways to capitalize future revenue flows, creative ideas. i'm a deficit hawk. i think i got the job. but the more i hear about the infrastructure plan the more comfortable i'm getting. >> speaking of the debt ceiling we hit it on friday. extraordinary measures by the treasury secretary mean a couple you were a tough nut to crack
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when you were congressman mulvaney. why should people like-minded with you who said i will give you the debt ceiling but i want real cuts, real deficit reduction. at one point you said i will raise the ceiling in exchange for a balanced budget. you aren't making that ask this time, are you? debt ceiling as most people in congress have. go back to the 1920s, 30s and 40s, the debbe used to try to s and say, okay, why do we have a definite problem? why do we have a debt problem? how can we fix it? we'll come forward with the ideas to raise the debt ceiling but at the same time try to address long term reasons we have a debt. >> you are not somebody that voted for a lot of budgets in congress. why -- this doesn't look like a budget congressman mulvaney would have supported. why would you support keeping the deficit? i feel congressman mulvaney would not support the numbers that this budget shows. >> it's a fair question. keep in mind the administration
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is different than members of the hill, members of the house and senate. every house member -- as i used to be -- has a constituency, a group of people at home we represent. senators represent the state. there are a lot of special interest, lobbying involved. the president isn't beholden to that. the president represents everybody. consultants weren't consulted on this, lobbyists, special interests were not. this is a budget for the nation because that's who he represents. >> as you put together the budget did you look at your votes and go, hmm, maybe i shouldn't have voted that way? >> no. i did the best represent south carolina. now i'm the president's budget director and we put out a good budget. >> when will you be able to propose a balanced budget? what year? >> i don't know yet. we are getting into it now. by mid may, we are shooting for, we'll have a larger budget -- >> firstterm? >> i don't know yet. we don't know what health care reform will look like, tax reform, the infrastructure program. those are the really big picture
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we'll have to leave it there.a mick mulvaney, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me. on health care president trump is working to get the republican support in the house and the plan to get through the house but the obamacare replacement faces tough on session in t 48 senators vote n ex3ek9ed the president can only afford to lose two republicans. now there are four republican nos. rand paul, mike lee who say the bill is too generous and dean o argue the bill is too harsh. senator collins of maine joins me now. welcome back to the show. >> thank you. >> you were very tough on the house bill. you were unambiguous when it came to the no vote on the bill. so very simply, what would it take to get you from no to yes?
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>> we have to deal with three issues. the first is coverage. under the house bill, 14 million americans would lose coverage next year. that rises to 24 million over the next decade. second, we have to do something t the house bill disproportionately affects older rural americans. the congressional budget office has estimated that a 64-year-old earning $26,500 a year would see an increase in his or her costs from $1700 to $14,600. that's unaffordable. third, we have to do something about the medicaid changes which ship billions of dollars of costs to the states, to hospitals and other peopleho in
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>> do you believe health care is a right and, if so, that it is a right the government is responsible for fulfilling? >> i believe that as a practical matter people have a right to health care in that if they're sick and they go to a hospital they're not goio away. in fact, federal law requires a hospital to treat someone who comes to an emergency room. but that's the least cost effective way to treat an individual who doesn't need emergency so there is a lot that we can do to reduce the cost of health care by, for example, using managed care for the medicaid program. >> let me ask you a couple of questions on the president's budget. is there any part of the president's budget >> yes. i do think we need an increase for our veterans and that we need an increasey
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spending because readiness has suffered. but i think we have to gradual increase. one of the most disturbing parts of the president's budget is his slashing the funding for the national institutes we have been making tremendous progress in the increasing nih's budget and that has helped us to develop effective treatments, new cures for expensive diseases. if we are serious about reducing health care costs the last thing we shoule cutting the budget for biomedical research. >> where do you get the money though? that's going to be the fundamental question. there are a lot of programs i think a lot of people can individually make a case for. think what the white house would say is, hey, maybe these are good programs that could be done better. we have a financial problem in this country. we have a rising national debt. we can't seem to get out from
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under an annual deficit. where do we find the money? for instance, can we afford a massive tax cut?o have to scour budget. and tax reform does not necessarily mean that we are going to have a significant reduction in rev n-- revenues. it is possible to come up with one that's more pro growth, simpler and fairer and doesn't substantially reducenator bill a health care bill and we are looking at different paid fors for the bill including some that were included for the affordable care act. some others as well. programs to scour the budget. that could be combined. we need to look at everything. but i'm worried about the outlines of the budget that have beenbmitted. i would point out that i have
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never seen a president's budget make it through congress unchanged. >> that's for sure. let me ask you about the president and the issue of credibility. he continues to believe that he was somehow -- either he or his associates were wiretapped or under surveillance and it was ordered by president obama. you also have access to various intelligence. is there any way that statement, to your knowledge, is true? >> i have seen no evidence supporting that statement. what we need is evidence. if the president has evidence of that, i would encourage him to turn it over to the house and senate intelligence committee. we are in the midst of a big investigation of russian activities in our country and we want to look at this allegation as well. >> can you take the president at his word? >> yes. do i think the president gets
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everything right? no. but i want president trump, just as i haveante every other president, to be successful because he is america's president. now that doesn't mean that i support his policies and it doesn't mean that i'm going to be with him when i think he's wrong or has misstated what the facts are. >> if he's wrong about this allegation, congressman tom cole said that president trump owes president obama an apology. do you concur? >> i would like to first get to the bottom of this before saying what should be done. i don't know the basis for president trump's assertion. that's what i wish he would explain to us on the intelligence committee and to the american people. i do believe he owes us that explanation. >> senator susan collins, republican from maine, thank you for coming on the show and
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sharing your views. >> thank you. >> when we come back, tomorrow is a big day in washington. hearings begin for supreme court nominee neil gorsuch and james comey testifies on russia and the election and t ♪ (music plays throughout) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ for my constipation, my doctor recommended i switch laxatives. stimulant laxatives make your body go by forcefully stimulating the nerves in your colon. miralax is different. it works with the water in your body to hydrate and soften. unblocking your system naturally.
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panelists here. syndicated columnist george will is making his 52nd appearance on "meet the press," but it's his first since 1981. ve you been on another show that i don't think about. yamiche sinr of new york times and katty kay, and i will give you the first word and that is on the president's credibility. at what point does it become a president on capitol hill when you are trying to sell the healthcare? >> there is a much bigger credibility problem and secretary tillerson in the east in korea raised the possibility of preemptive war against the ballistic missile program with north korea, that means that there is not a trivial possible they some time in the life of this term, this
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presidential term the president would have to come and say because of the intelligence services tells me x, y and z. these are the people that you don't trust and we don't trust and we're not sure about you particularly so it's hard to hermetically seal the loss of credibility. >> robert, do they understand this or are they not thinking about this? >> my sources inside of the white house tell me that the president reviews news organizations information sometimes even more than intelligence information. >> so we're more important than the presidential daily brief? >> he gets the presidential daily brief and if you look at the tweets that started the whole wiretapping situation and it was part of a breitbart article and now he's watching judge napolitano on fox news and digesting all of this information rather than just the intelligence brief and he's disseminating it publicly. >> katty, i think about him with the house republicans this week going no, no, no, i'll make the
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fixes for you, you have my word on it. >> the question is how valuable is that word which is what we've had members of both republican and democratic parties asking quite publicly this week when they refuted from the idea that there had been wiretapping that the president, and it was very interesting susan collins, she didn't answer the question, do you trust him? that's a precarious position for him to be in. >> there was this observation, yamiche, and he said this, it's very easy to have a good meeting with trump. it's vy -- he'll promise you the world and he'll betray you. you don't know when to take the president at his word. >> that that means and the people that are our allies are sitting down with donald trump
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and they might have a great meeting with him and when they get on the plane to go bacoount can tell he might beay for senat two very important americanth p. they were to your wifend >> when theere to someone who gr and probablyll at it in t's liberals. can dina pal, can gary cohn, can they have more influence in the coming months? >> we'll see. all right. we'll discuss this. i wanted to get to health care and now we'll do health care in the second when you guys come being bah, but first, the house intelligence committee does hear from fbi director james comey on russia tomorrow and about those wiretap claims. the leahis is not a video game. this is not a screensaver. this is the destruction of a cancer cell by the body's own immune system,
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confirm president trump's allegations of the wiretap of trump tower prior to the election. congressman adam schiff is the ranking democrat on the house intelligence committee and you will see him a lot tomorrow and he joins me for a preview. congressman schiff, good to have you. >> thank you. >> the agency security director mike rogers, what do you hope, what light will be shed tomorrow, do you hope? >> i think for a lot of americans this is the first time to really tune in to exactly what the russians did and what the investigation involves, and i'd like to walk through with both directors. what do we know about the russian operation? what was its breadth? we know it was hacking and dumping of documents. we know their slick use of their media campaign, but more than that, i think we want to share with the country why we are so concerned about the issue of u.s. person involvement. were there u.s. persons that were helping the russians in any way? was there any form of collusion and what can we do to protect
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not only ourselves in the future, but our allies are facing the same russian onslaught. >> if this is an investigation by the counter terrorism and fbi, what do you expect director comey can say un. lickly? >> on the issue of collusion he is limbited on what he can shar and how the russians operate in europe, what techniques they use and what we should be on the lookout for our investigation and in europe and other places, we see them use the natives of foreign countries that are intervening and how they use paid social media trolls. so the full range of russian intervention and what that looks like and so i think flushing out why this ought to matter to americans, i think people need to understand we are in a global war of ideas. it's not communism versus capitalism, but it is authoritarianism versus
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democracy and putin is very much at the vanguard of that movement and that ought to concern all of us. >> let me ask you. you received information on friday from the department of justice about president trump's claims on wiretapping. what can you tell us? were you satisfied with the information they provided? >> well, i got a classified briefing on that response and they delivered it after moat of us had left town, butness wo again, no evidence to support the president's claim that he was wiretapped by his predecessor. i have a lot of respect for susan collins, but i have to differ with her on this. we need to get to the bottom of this. there is nothing at the bottom. >> do you think director comey will say that? >> i suspect he will. we have to put an end to the goose chase. what the president said is patently false and the wrecking ball it created has banged into the british allies and german allies and continuing to grow in terms of damage and he needs to put an end to this. i suspect what's really at root here, chuck, is this is just how
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the president does business. maybe this is the way he conducted his real estate business with half-truths and sometimes no truths and a lot of bluster. that, in my opinion, is no way to run a business, but it's in no way to run a country. it's dangerous to us and it's alienating allies and as george will so correctly pointed out, when there is a crisis with north korea and iran and what not and every president has one in their term we need to be able to believe our president and he's making it very, very difficult. >> i want to get to the point of, look, collusion is sort of what hasn't been proven here between whatever the russians did and the trump campaign. in fact, the former acting director of the cia who was mike morel who was a supporter of hillary clinton. he essentially reminded people it took director clapper on his word that says there has been no evidence that has been found of collusion. are we at the point -- at what point do you start to wonder if there is a fire to all this
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smoke? >> first of all, i was surprised to hear director clapper say that because i don't think you can make the claim categorically as he did. i would characterize it at the outset of the investigation and there was circumstantial evidence of collusion. there is direct evidence, i think, of deception and that's where we begin the investigation. now i don't want to prejudge where we ultimately end up and of course, there's one thing to say there's evidence and there's another thing to say we can prove this or prove it beyond a reasonable doubt or there's enough evidence to bring to a grand jury for purposes of criminal indictment and there is certainly enough for us to conduct the investigation. the american people have a right to know and in order to defend ourselves, we need to know whether these circumstantial evidence of collusion or direct evidence of deception is indicative of more. >> i want to get to the witness list here. you have subpoena power if you choose to use it. has congressman nunes, you can and congressman nunes need to
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come to an agreement on that. is he willing to use subpoena power? >> there will be people we need to bring before the committee who may not be willing witnesses and if we'll do this credibly and right now we're the only game in town, we and the senate intelligence committee, we'll need the power of compulsion. i still think we have a lot of spade work to do before that. you don't want to bring the witnesses in before you've reviewed the evidence that you want to question them with. you may only get one shot at the witnesses, but we'll have to do that. >> you seem far behind. the senate intel committee has asked roger stone one-time adviser, he's been ordered to preserve documents to make sure he doesn't destroy any documents and perhaps he is going to be subpoenaed by them. have you done that with any -- have you formally sent letters to potential witnesseses to say hey, you need to make sure you have saved any documents related to the campaign or russia? >> we were the first to send
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letters to the u.s. government to tell them to preserve evidence. >> what about outside? mike flynn, carter paige and roger stone. >> we've not yet is not letters to individuals. it's a good practice. i'm not sure that if someone wants to hide that letter will have an effect that it ought to, i think in some respects we're ahead of where the senate investigation is, and in some respects they're ahead of where we are. i do think, look, at the end of the day the real question where the rubber will really hit the road is as you suggest when we have to use compulsion to get documents that we need, to bring in witnesses. i hope the answer is going to be yes from the majority. i also do think -- >> right now you have not been given that authority. >> well, we haven't -- >> you haven't asked for it. >> to subpoena certain witnesses, but we will be. there are a lot of witnesses. >> devin nunes agrees with you on this? >> well, he'll have to -- >> which means he doesn't yet. >> i don't want to say that.
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we hammered out a very detailed scope of agreement that allows us to look into issues like collusion with u.s. persons with the trump campaign. >> adam schiff from the house intel, we'll be watching your hearing. thanks for coming on today. >> the one thing that may be more responsible than anything for the current state of polarization for american politics. before we go to break, this note, centuries from now when rock 'n' roll is merely one chapter in the history books there may only be one name that you have time to associate with rock 'n' roll and that name may very well be chuck berry. he was the genius who created the kind of music that paved the way for elvis presley and countless white rockers to become mega stars, "johnny b. goode" and "beethoven,"
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"data download" time. in an issue i've been spending quite a bit of time on how the misuse of data has been destroying the political system. if you won the middle, you won the election. now campaigns are using or abusing big data to identify and mobilize like minded voters rather than using it to make arguments that change minds. so how bad has this polarization gotten in the last 20 years? according to pugh in 1994 there was a great deal of ideological overlap in the two parties. 36% of republican voters were more liberal than the typical democrat and 24% of democrats were more conservative than the typical republican. just 8% of republicans and 6% of democrats were more conservative lan the liberals of the opposite party and guess what? we've seen the same shift on elected officials. based on the initial analysis of voting records, there were 137 house members who fell in the
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ideological middle ground with voting records somewhere between the most conservative democrat and the most conservative republican. in 2013 that number was down to four. let's go to the senate. in 2002 there were seven members, in 2013, zero. so as you can see in the last 15 years we've seen a complete hollowing out of the political center and this coincided with the advent of microtargeting in 2004, then advanced by team obama and now, of course, everybody usees it. look, the electorate and politicians alike used to be conditioned to know that the middle mattered. that's why big deals in washington were bipartisan. tax reform in the '80s and welfare reform in the '90s. flash forward to 2010, democrats passed health care without a single republican vote and right now republicans appear poised to try to do it the same way, but look, there is good news in this. big data can be used to fix the very problems that it helped create as long as there is a
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welcome back. panelists here, yes, director comey is testifying tomorrow. yes, we have neil gorsuch in his first confirmation hearing, but i think the biggest story next week will be the house vote on thursday for health care. george, where is this headed for republicans? >> they don't know yet because usually in legislative deal making it's an additive process, i support x if you support y, i'll support you if you support me and that's how coalitions work, and in this case addition is subtraction and the heart of boomcare is the expansion of medicaid. 20 republican senators represent
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states that expanded medicaid. add synthetics bench and they have huge holes in their budget and they're a problem. >> asa hutchinson, john kasich, brian sandoval and three republican governors all over the ideological spectrum, yamiche, signed a legislation saying be careful with this medicaid cut. >> he came out and saying all of these people would lose their health insurance it sent shock waves into the party and there are some things complicated for voters to understand. losing insurance is not complicated. it's either you have it or you don't and while trump supporters didn't like the idea to be force tr ed to have insurance, and not having it is scary for a lot of people. >> it's interesting for house republicans who have gone on the conservative side with the effective worrying have gone from a hell no to possibly yes. now you have moderates among the
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republican party in the house and if this is going to die, where should i sign my name to it for the next two years. >> the poll out this week shows here's the president's approval ratings among republicans. he's got 83%, among all voters he's got a 55% unfavorable rating. you're corey gardner, republican senator, do you listen to the republican base who loves trump or do you overall, realize a majority in colorado don't trust him and are unsatisfied and you go with him on health care? >> who actually has ownership of the health care bill? we know the speaker is tweaking it with the medicaid expansion and doing things so the conservatives want to get it through the house, when it from comes to the president does he want to get it? >> he's not driven by philosophy and his team and his populous talk about infrastructure and taxes. they didn't get elected in their minds to do health care first. >> george, is the debate over
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about whether the idea is involved with the government or not? there are some who say we shouldn't, the issue of whether it is a reit or privilege, senator cassidy in louisiana said hey, the debate's over, we have to provide these people health care. >> before the obamacare legislation was passed, 50 cents of every health care dollar was a government 50 cents and the government has been deeply involved in this forever and it will only become more so. >> when i was listening to senator collins talk about not wanting to say health care is a right, as soon as you say that sentence you think about bernie sanders. >> right. >> in theory she made this point that we're paying for health care whether we like it or not so whether we take medicate and we feel like we're not paying for it in this way, you are still paying for it when people show up in the emergency room and have to pay for it and these hospitals have to provide them care anyways. >> very quickly, neil gorsuch, is it a filibuster? do democrats get to filibuster
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neil gorsuch? >> no. there will be enough democrats up for re-election to decide this is not the fight they want to have now. they may want a fight to the second pick. >> it's an easy to look bipartisan on this pick, isn't it? >> in almost any other period they would be consumed by gorsuch. when i talk to progressives they say russia, trump, the wiretapping allegation, chaos at the white house, they're focused on different issues. >> and health care. we'll be back in 45 seconds with "endgame" and a viewers' alternative version. yes, we do pay attention to what yes, we do pay attention to what you have - one of the most dangerous places your children can go is right in your home. tell your kids never to give out personal information or arrange to meet someone online.
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"meet the press" "endgame" is brought to you by boeing, always working to build something better. back now with "endgame" and i want to continue quickly, we talked about on the gorsuch conversation whether democrats is it the right strategy to just be a party of no? george will, you've been used to covering that and the answer to that used to be no, but perhaps
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it's better for them politically to be the party of no. >> it's better in the sense it energizes their base and you have action and you realize you can't win an election with the base alone. the old axiom used to be that american politics took place within the 40 yard lines, i still think it's true. >> yet, does anybody win that way? if they don't think they win that way, whether they actually do or not, they don't think they win that way, yamiche, this is the why they act the way they act. when i talk to freshmen representatives who say we should be the party of no mainly because they feel their base is watching this and saying we need to stick to our grounds and we need to not make compromises when it comes to health care and not push a single-payer season and they should really stop and not make deals. >> we keep talking about the democratic party. who are the leaders of the democratic party?
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we know there's leader schumer and leader pelosi, but who is the soul right now of the democratic party if they are going to be the party of noes. it's senator warren? it's hard to tell. >> democrats can easily point to the last six years of the obama presidency and say, hey, it didn't do the republicans any harm being the party of no. take garland, case in point. why not try that, too? >> it's not often we do viewer mail and we don't want to make a habit of it, this week is an exception and we took a tongue in cheek look if we applied repeal and replacing obamacare language to repeal and replacing sports and we reported that sports was on a death spiral when 50% of all teams are losers and if you throw in soccer into this, we even have losers and ties. it's important to give players greater access to more home runs, touchdowns and allowing players to choose the success that's best for them and that teams need the ability to cross state lines as the new york giants and jets did when they moved to new jersey. one viewer, kevin mcgoniccel, he
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wrote to offer a more conservative alternative to our examples. >> mcgoniccel writes that because of the death spiral, the san francisco, oakland, all expand leaving the los angeles angels of anaheim and without competition the angels could increase prices by 160%. elizabeth warren and bernie sanders may say it's a basic right for citizens and non-citizens alike and that all states must have sports. in order to cover everyone, the nhl is forced to set up a failing team in a hockey hotbed like new mexico. subsidizing teams like that and others would force prices to rise for all hockey fans and of course, everyone will be mandated to buy season tickets to their home teams whether they want to or not. anyway, see? we can have a little fun here. that's all we have for today. we'll be back next week when, i
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guess, the big ten will teach the acc another lesson. if it's sunday, it's "meet the press". >> you can see more endgame in "post game" on the mtp facebook page. ♪ ♪ a monster monday on capitol hill as congress looks into trump russian election connections, wiretapping, and a supreme court nominee faces his first day of grilling. north korea tests a new high-tech thrust rocket engine which some say could propel an intercontinental ballistic missile capable of reaching the u.s. midwest wildfires threatening lives with more than
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