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house, right now,, what would you say? >> i'd be saying, we're going to bomb the hell out of -- >>s this a candidate that can really win? >> i'm a rich guy, b but i have this great relationship with the workerring people of this country. >> you have offended women, veterans, been called crass, bigoted, obnoxious. >> and his wife melania, speaking up for the first time tonight. >> your hband has come under fire for making disparaging remarks about women. does this bother you? he treats everybody y the same >> the first lady of the trump empire. but could she be the country's first lady? >> is your image a liability for
your husband? plus, the trump children. >> who is hisfavorite? >> and for the first time on tv, all of his grandchildren. the softer erer side of the donald that you've never seen. tonight, he's got all the real estate he needs. but what about this real estate- the white house? >> for many, the white house is a step up. i'm looking around this room. the white house may be a step down. >> could thi be your next first family? meet the trumps. >> good evening. i'm barbara walters. and tonight, the donald trump you have never seen before. not blustering on the campaign trail, but intimate at home.
his wife in her first sitdown interview since he announced his candidacy. so, here's the man hoping to hear you'rehired, instead of his siature, you're fired. nald! to your right! to your righght! reporter: for years, donald trump's "louder than life" style was the stuff that tabloid dreams are made of. >> what a great honor it must be for you to honor me tonight. >> reporter: the brash billionaire was a real estate mogul. married to three glalamorous women. a best selling author who made cameo appearances in movies. >> down the hall and to the left. >> reporter: on television. >> go another 50 grand and i'll cut the lawn for you. 3>> reporter: even commercials. >> hey yourself. >> reporter: most recently, he reinvented himself as the host of a reality show "the apprentice." >> you're fired. >> reporter: not the typical resume of a man who aspires to be president. what made you start running?
did you get up and say, "you know what, president?" about it was last time when mitt romney ran. and he ran and i decid not to dodo it. and i had a lot ofbligations, i was -- signed a contract with "the apppprentice,and i had a lot of buildings under construction, i was doing a lot of things. it was sort of difficult to do it then. now i'm in perfect -- you know, it's perfect. although i gave up two seasons of "thapprentice," you know, nbc signed me -- >> reporter: aw. >> i know, but it still you know what it's a lot of money and television. >> and other things. to do it myself. >> reporter: but donald trump is a candidate unlike any other. >> cause our leaders are stupid! stupid! stupid people! bing bing bong and dat! >> reporter: with his lack of propriety. trump has made the theater of politics popular. >> the only one qualified to interview me is me. >> reporter: but some say it's's also less than presidential. you used to call me on my cell phone
distinguishing between reality tv celebrity and political or hard news. he is the momo reality tv star of a candidate that t has ever existed at the most reality tv time in america. >> reporter: i first met donald trump in 1987. michael jackson was at the top of the charts. because i'm bad i'm bad >> reporter: hair was big. greed was good. and 41-year-old donald trump was flying high. when you look at that wonderful skyline, do you say i own that, that, that, that? >> well, i look at that skyline, barbara and i really say it's i'm very proud to be a part of >> reporter: in the big apple, the trump card wasn ace. you look out there? any good properties that we can see? >> i'd really like to buy everything if that were possible. >> reporter: i bet you would.
should be preserved and left and donald trump should not be allowed to touch central park. very relieved. but trump was already dreaming about his next conquest. a future far more grand than just prince of the city. >> new york developer donald trump saying american foreign policy lacks backbone. >> reporter: it was the beginning of a long flirtation with the greatest "get" of all. >> we're going to see whether or not i'm going to run. >> are you running for president? >> i have never been so serious >> reporter: finally after almost 30 years the man who might be president sailed down an escalator for his surreal moment of destiny. >> i am officially running for presidenof the united states. >> reporter: his speech was one of the most jaw-dropping presidential bids in history. >> and w we're goi to make our country great again. ground for everybody else's problems.
we have losers. they're laughing at us. >> reporter: his thoughts about immigration, provocative to say the least. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best, they'r're bringi drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. and some, i assume, are good people. i will build a great, great wall on our southern border and i will have mexico pay for that wall. >> reporter: how do you plan to do this? >> okay. ready? >> reporter: yep. >> first of all, we have to build a wall. we have to create a border. we havto have a wall. we're going to have a wall. it's going to be a real wall, not a little wall that they drive trucks with drugs over the top of it, okay? you see the pictures -- >> reporter: yup. >> in the newspapers where they have ramps rht over the little wall. there's going to be a real wall. and it's not going to be hard to build, it's going to be done, hey, who's better at building than me? i know exactly what to do. >> new fallout for donald trump. >> reporter: unlike any ordinary candidate, trump didn't ba off. he doubled down and set off a firestorm. >> well, call it another trump dump. macy's is now cutting ties with republican presidential candidate, donald trump. >> reporter: when you send these people out, what do you do with the women and children? > they'reoing to go with them. everybody, not just --
>> reporter: you send the whole -- >> oh, sure. >> reporter: you send the whole family? >> it's got to be a family unit. it'soing to be done humanely. >> reporter: you speak your mind, heaven knows. you have sometimes offended women, latinos, veterans. how can you unify the untry when you make these divisive statements? women respect me, they like me and they know i'm going to take care of them. i'm going to protect them. the people that are here legally, hisispanics, ke me because they don't want people coming in and taking their jobs. >> reporter: do you speak any spanish? >> no. this is an english speaking country, remember? >> they want to! >> reporter: from the beginning -- >> why are we getting involved for? come on! >> reporter: his inflammatory comments have drawn criticism from every quarter. >> let's go, baby! >> trump running for president is like -- >> this is your worst nightmare. >> could he actually win? >> reporter: trump is the shock jock of the political campaign. but it's paying off big in the polls. he's now at the top of the pack for the republican nomination.
the presidency, there was a cover story in the "dailily news" that showed you as a clown. you've been called crass, bigoted, obnoxious. any of this bother you or does it all -- >> no. nobody calls me a clown now. i can tell you that. and you're right, at the beginning they were doing everything they could -- they -- you know, everybody was trying to belittle, because that's what they do. nothey've gained great respect because i've gone from going into a race that everybody said i wasn't going to enter, and i went being -- being up, up, up and now i'm leading by a lot, so, i've spent less money and i'm in number one position. other people have spent $30, $40 million and they're dying. >> reporter: i used some words to describe you disparagingly. at words would you use to describe donald trump? >> well, i mean, i'll -- i'll give you the positive. i've -- i've always had great imagination. i've had great success with money but what they say is, is he a nice person? and i think actually i am a nice
person, but i think the thing that will surprise people, i'll be a unifier. i think i'll bring people together. and that includes blacks and whites and everything. i think people will come together. >> rorter: but the man who calls himself a "unifier" has had a divisive history on the campaign trail. >> one second. >> no. >> i didn't want to -- >> you cannot take -- >> more energy tonight. i like that. i never attacked him on his look, and believe me there's plenty of subject matter right there. >> reporter: you have said thahat e of the most important aspects in your personality is winning. why wiing? what abouthe, "it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you u play theame"? >> i like winning better. look, we have to win -- >> our country has to win. our country's been losing for so itit's not -we're not going to have a country left. i kid when i say, "you're going to win so much." if i win the election, "you're militarily, every way. yore going to win so much you're going to get sick and we lose -- every single way you
>> reporter: and when paris was attacked in a violent wave of terrorism, candidate trump blasted back. >> if they had guns, it would've been a much, much different situation. >> reporter: if you were president, what would you do to protecect americs from such an attack? would you bomb syria? >> i would bomb wherever they are. right now we'r're being politically correct, nice and gentle, nice and gentle. we've got a cancer the, and the cancer is isis. life means nothing to them. >> reporter: france has declared a war on isis. should we declare war? >> i think so. why not? because right now they're getting people who have this great respecect for is, because isis is getting away with murder. they're knocking out airplanes, they're knocking out night clubs in paris. you can't let that happen. >> reporter: you have said that you could reason with anyone from putin to the chinese leaders. if you had an opportunity to
what would you say? >> you got to take them out barbara and you got to take them out swiftly and strongly. as far as isis is concerned, that's a different thing. these people are crazy, okay. these people are crazy. >> reporter: you call president obama, i'm quoting, "insane" for allowing syrian refugees into this country. >> we have no idea, barbara, who they are. >> reporter: if you were in the white house right now, what would you beining saying >> oh, i would be saying, "let's go, folks." and i would be gettiting other countries. >> reporter: let's go folks. >> i am the most militaristic person. i will make our military so strong and so powerful, nobody's going to mess with us. coming up, a glimpse at a campaign trail like no other. and in rare interviews, trump's very own first lady, melania.
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kind of drug and it's too powerful for most people to handle. how do you handle success? >> well, a lot of people can't handle success, i've seen it. a lot of people can't win, they don't know how to win. you see it in sports, where they're right on the threshold of win and then they can't get it over the line. it's an amazing thing. winning is -- isough. i always said winning is somewhat maybe innate, maybe it's just something you have. you know, you have the winning gene. but i've seen it. i' seen great talent both in business and lots of other things, they should be able to do it and they can't get the ball over the line. >> reporter: you are a winner? >> i think so. i mean -- >> reporter: i'm looking aroun >> i think so. >> reporter: there's a lot of gold here. >> reporter: he shares this palace in the sky with his beautiful and graceful wife, melania. she has been mostly absent from the campaign trail until tonight. mr trump, it's a pleasure to see you and we don't see you that often. you are not on the campaign trail.
how do you feel about campaigning? >> well, it's my choice not to be there. i support my husband 100% but we have a 9-year-old son gether, barron. and i'm raising him. and this is the age he needs a parent at home. >> reporter: were you involved in the dision of your husband to become president? >> we discuss a lot, yes. and i encourage him and i -- >> reporter: you did? you encouraged him? >> i encouraged him because i know what he will do and what he can do for america. he loves the american people and he wants to help them. >> reporter: melania and her husband met at a party in 1998 where she caught the eye of the flirtatious dodonald tru. he came up to you, you rebuffed him. yeah? what was your first impression of donald trump? >> well, he was very charming and we had the great sparkle. he came with a date.
my number. so if you give me your numbers i will -- i will call you. he was known as kind of a lady's man. and, but we had -- we met a week later. >> reporter: and then it was okay? >> yes, we had the great chemistry the first time. >> we've had great chemistry ever since. >> reporter: before she was melania trump she was melania knauss, born 45 years ago in a small industrial town in slovenia when it was still part of yugoslavia. melaa, a natural beauty, was also a bookworm. she went to ununiversitynd was studying architecture when shehe was discovered by a major fashion photographer when she was just 17. soon after, she left school and slovenia for new york city. who would imagine that the quiet girl from slovenia would end up the wife of a mega-billionaire?
international news. not just because it was a may- december romance. he is 24 yrs older. but because of donald's previous two high profile marriages and even h higher prile divorces. >> are you following the trump thing? can't miss it. >> reporter: the first, a 13-year marriage to the stunning czech model, ivana zelinckova. and the second, to actress marla maples. >> i give it four months. >> rorter: actually, it lasted just under four years. but today it seems the third time is indeed the charm. it's been ten years since donald and melania said "i do" in a lavish affair at trump's maralago estate in florida. one year later, they welcomed a son, barron, who is now 9. >> rorter: this is your third marriage. what's different this time? >> well, i think i understand
i've gone through tremendous amounts of everything. deals, and building companies, and taking care of people. >> reporter: how does that help marriage? >> well, it hurts marriage because you're working all the time. what i did is, i worked so hard that i think it was a very, very hard thing for somebody to compete with. >> reporr: your husband has been married twice before. did you have any concerns that it might not work out? >> no, i didn't have any concerns. we have a great chemistry. and to be with a man as my husband is -- you need to know who you are. you need to have a very independent life as well. and supporting him. you need to be very smart and quick. and be there for him when he needs you. >> reporter: is yours a marriage of equals? >> i would say yes. >> i would say no. no, i think she's far greater than the 50%. no, we have a very, pretty much equal relationship. wouldn't you say?
>> melania, how did he do? >> reporter: but if the trumps win the white house, melania will have two noteworthy distinctionsns. e first foreign-born first lady since john n quincy ams' wife louisa. and the first first-lady to have posed in a picture like this. i don't know how to put this, but your image, looking the way you do, is that a liability for your husband? >> i don't think so. i don't think so. i think people will always judge. maybe theyill say, "oh, the past that you have, the way you were modeling." that's part of the job that i was doing. i was a very successful mol. and i did some phohoto shoot yes, they were a little, little risky, but nothing more than you see every year in sports illustrated. >> she was actually in sports illustrated. which i st saw that picture the other day. it was beautiful. and i will say this, if i'm lucky enough to win, the public will be so lucky to have melania.
she will be so beautiful and elegant, and good from the heart. she will be a fabulous first lady. >> reporter: first ladies are expected to have a cause. if you have a cause, what would it be? >> i'm very involved in charities now. many, many charities. involving children, involving many different diseases. and i will, you know, if the time comes i will choose what is dearest to my heart and work on that hundred percent. >> reporter: do you give your husband any advice on the debates? >> we discuss. i tell him my opinions. >> reporter: give me an example of a piece of advice that you've given your husband that he has taken. >> i will keep it private. >> well, she's told me, i mean, i can tell you she's told me a couple of times during t debate, she was very happy with my performances, if you'd want to call them a performance. but she said, "you could tone it down a little bit on occasion." which i understand. >> in thcenter othe stage tonight, businessman, donald trump. >> reporter: and speaking of tone, i wondered if melania had
ever taken her husband to task on his te towards women on the campaign trail. comment attacking carly fiorina? >> insulting the way she looks. >> you said look at that face -- >> i think women all over this country heard very loud what mr. trump said. >> reporter: you know, your husband has come under fire here and there for making disparaging remarks about women. it doesn't bother me. he treats everybody the same. he talks about men as well, not just women only. maybe he just go into something a lile more details when he say something about women. >> reporter: while melania laments the amount of time campaigning costs their marriage, the couple insists, that at heart, they're homebodies. >> when he comes home we spend time together, two of us, or two of us and barron. just be at h home. because that's a really quality time together. >> reporter: and why not? when for now "home" is this lavish penthouse apartment, not
pennsylvania avenue. for many, the white house is a step u i am looking arod this room. the white house might be a step down. >> the white house is the white house. it's just a spectacular place. and, you know, it's something that represents something very special. next, the brand. the boeing. the billions. >> i'm really rich. >> but is all that bankable at the ballot box? >> at's the doside of being a part of the 1% of the richest people in america? especially when you're trying to reach the middle class? >> when we return. to different jobs... to community college...
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a boeing 757 that seats dozens of passengers. it has bedrooms, a theater system and gold plated fixtures in the bathroom and on the seatbelts. monogrammed on the headrests is the trp family crest. for donald trump, this is the only way to fly. >> they've never had anybody that owned a boeing 757 before. it's a little bit of an unusual thing. >> reporter: donald trump, unlike most of the candidates, is rich enough to bankroll his own campaign. >> i'm really rich. >> reporter: he flaunts his wealth, candidly. >> $8,737,540. >> reporter: you might think all his billllions wou alienate working class voters but trump says it's really a plus. >> we don't want your help. i'm the only one that's self-fundi. i'm not selling myself to special interests. >> reporter: but he does use his $7 million helicopter as a political sideshow. >> does anybody want to take a
>> yeah! >> reporter: it madede quite a splash at the iowa state fair. >> what amazes you most? >> his golf courses. his resorts, him himself. >> reporter: in a way, donald trump was born ready. the fourth of fred and mary trump's five children, he e grew up in the construction business. his father, a real estate tycoon, built middle and low income housing. he always knew how to get at he wanted.d. his brother robert was no match for his schemes, as he told me in our first interview. >> robert had a set of blocks and i had a set of blocks and i asked robert if i could have his blocks and i built beautiful tall block building and then i said i like it so much that i ued it together and ththen robert couldn't have his blocks. so i don't know, somehow that story is a story that a lot of people have asked me about, i don't know. >> reporter: what do you think it says? >> well, it says i think that just even at a young age i
wasn't so much different than i am now. >> reporter: that relentless desire to win made his name a mode synonym for succe. if flaunting it was the game, trump was the name. in the '80s, his fiery mix of hubris and vision causedim to win and lose fortunes. >> you're going to fight it to the bitter end? >> i always fight to the bitteter end, don't i? > reporte but today, e trump kingdois an empire. from international hotels, to golf courses, even a winery. the name trump is such a brand for success that it hahas been licensed on an astonishing range of products. >> it's a great tasting vodka. >> trump mel management. >> what does this guy not have his name on? >> the reason my real esta is successful is they know if i put the name trump on it, it's going to be the best. >> reporter: what's the downside of being part of the 1% of the richest people in america, especially when you're trying to reacthe middle class? >> well, there's a certain loneliness that you have.
but that's made up when you have a great family, i have a great family, fantastic family. have a wonderful wife. but the funny thing is, i'm a rich guy but i have this great relationship with the working people of this country, and that's true. >> reporter: what vein do you think you have touched? >> the vein of people are tired of being led by leaders, if you call them leaders, that are virtually incompetent. >> reporter: trump says he's a man of the people. others say he's the p.t. barnum of politics. whatever the answer, he has been playing to crowds of thousands. >> donald trump speaks the truth. >> he's not a politician, he's not paid off. >> well, he's so damn good-looking, what do you think? >> reporteter: his tme song is his message and it has definitely hit a nerve. we're not going to take it
anymore >> reporter: on this night, trump owns the crowd. >> the number one value people are interestingly are looking for is authenticity. is it real? is it really real? he comes across at times as a bully, but people will te a bully who's strong over somebody else they think is nice who's weak. >> we have people who are just so pathetic. >> reporter: without question -- >> we said no. >> reporter: the bluntss of his shock and awe campaign. >> sit down! >> reporter: keeps pushing buttons and boundaries in every way. >> there's going to be change. but real change, not obama chchange. remember? >> the next president, donald j. trump! >> reporter: trump is still the wild card in this election. a power broker whetherer he wins or loses. if you lose the nomination, what next for donald trump? >> look, you can lose the nomination, you can lose the election. what's next? i go back to what i was doing.
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call me on your cell phone >> reporter: but the trump children swear they are the exception. do any of you make fun of your father's hair? >> i like not to, because you never know what happens genetically. >> it is funny, because it's the only hair we've ever known. but people seem fascinated. >> reporter: this week, i sat down with donald trump's fou oldest children. donald jr., 37, ivanka, 34, eric 31 and tiffany, 22. not surprisingly, they all think their father would make the perfect president. what makes your
father tick? >> work. honestly, work and family. he's the last man you'll ever see that'll take three weeks and go to aspen or three weeks and go somewhere. i mean, he loves, he loves work. >> reporter: i need a quick show of hands. which one of you is most like your father? >> well, but in fairness, i think we're all like him in very different ways. >> you know, it's actually very scary. we can go to thanksgiving, right, and we can all -- >> we'll sit there and pick
with plans to go to law school. tiffany, people are meeting you today, many people, for the first time. >> yes. >> reporter: to o grow up th the name "tiffany trump" -- that's not easy. >> i think that it's all i know. i'm so happy to be tiffany trump. i'm so happy to be, you know, in the family i'm in. >> reporter: your father has said that he was not -- i'm using his words, very present when you were growing up. >> i would challenge him on that. because he was very available to and accessible to us. >> regardless of what he was doing, regardless of who he was meeting with, if we called, he took the phone. i mean, from when we were 6 years old, i'd call. he'd be negotiating with a ceo of a major bank or whatever it may be. and he would make them wait. >> our times together were learning, you know, playing in his fice. he would always sneak me down to get a candy bar, you know, in the lobby. >> he found a way that was true to him to connect with us that maybe is a little less traditional. you know, his work is his
passio and he found a way to share it with us. >> reporter: they say their father also taught them to rerespect thvalue of a dollar. >> he was the first to tell us how privileged we are. and with that privilege how much responsibility we had to, to really sort of earn what we were so lucky to have been afforded since birth. >> well, that's the right word. "earn." i mean, he made us work. we were on construction sites. and we were working. and at the end of the day, you were tir. and you earned minimum wage. and you'd d take thamoney that you had and you'd go out and spend it on something good. >> to say we weren't spoiled would be laughable. but we were spoiled with great education, great experiences. but we weren't the kids showing up to college with, you know, a ferrari. we always had to sort of earn whatever it is that we wanted. and that, i think, prevented us from doing a lot of the other things that you've seen as, you know, downfalls,s, perhapsin other children who have similar circumstances. >> reporter: and, it seems "the donald trump work ethic" is in their dna. >> you better do a good job or you' fired! >> we refer to it as "the trump guilt." when we wake up on saturday and we're not working. >> reporter: you have said, ivanka, of your father, that he
bred you to compete with each other. what do you compete over? >> i think we all have a very competitive spirit. and i think that can be harnessed in one of two ways. to our detriment, meaning that we're competitive in spite of ourselves, or for the positive, which means we push each other. >> reporter: who is his vorite? >> i'm going with ivanka. m going with ivanka. >>eporter: ivanka is, perhaps, the most well known of the quartet. the former model turned faion mogul has taken a page out of her father's business playbook putting her name on evything from shoes, , to handbs, fragrance. she says she is proud to be following in her father's footsteps. >> today i have the honor of introducing a man who needs no introduction. >> reporter: how was it decided that you would be the one who would introduce your father as a presidential candidate?
>> that's an excellent question. and i don't know, actually, how it was decided. but i was honored to do it. and i feel like i was standing there sort of representing our family. >> andnd she didn amazing job, by the way. >> she's a great messenger. she's got such great poise, i think. and alsohe way ivanka delivered the message was perfect. and i don't think any of us could have done it better. >> and she absolutely has beauty over the two of us. >> yes, there's definitely an element, that, uh, you know, we ain't got that. >> they say they are their father's biggest cheerleaders. supporting him at the debates and on social media. has your father ever said anything on the campaign trail that made you cringe? >> truthfully, no. >> reporter:r: no? no? >> he's not a big believer in p.c. culture where every vet very carefully through thousands of people, but if people really break down what he's trying to say, there's no malice in there. he's just cutting ththrough th nonsense and getting to the point and not wasting time.. th's what he does. >> he's true to himself. and he speaks in a way that the average person can understand. i think that's refreshing for everyone. >> reporter: well, you have been saying the most wonderful things
about your father. he should be very pleased and proud. if there is one thing you could would it be? >> listen, i don't think any of us would be sitting here glowing the way we are if we'd want to chanange aspec of his personality or who he is. >> reporter: something. give me something. >> i wanhim to eat healter. there you go. >> i agree with that. >> less mcdonald's. like, "oh, you have to, you but it's the only speed he >> i love the occasional, you know, saturday morning where i don't get the call at 5:00, like, "why aren't you in the office?" co on, come on, you had to do that? >> and i wouldn't change a thing about him, i mean, he really is a unique individual. there's no one else like him. still ahead, the littlest trumps. and barbara, asking the really
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>> reporter: at the end of our interview, we turned from talking about trump's candidacy to talking about the man. who is he? what makes him tk? i asked him some questions often seen in "vanity fair" magazine. my fantasy when i was very young was to be a nightclub singer. >> wow. >> reporter: didn't happen. what was your fantasy when you were very young? >> to be a baseball player. i was a great t baseballlayer. >> reporter: what position? >> first base. catcher, first base. but, in those days you got paid $2, right? >> reporter: and that's not for donald trump? >> i mean, no. but my other fantasy as i got older was to do movies. i want to be a movie maker and i decided not to. i decided to go into the rl estate business but i wanted to make movies. >> reporter: make them, not be
>> no, n not be -- no, make them. i wanted to make them. >> reporter: what do you dislike most about your appearance? >> i like my appearance. i mean, people would say my hair, my hair's -- you know it's my hair. last time you started pulling my hair with your great show last time. >> reporter: is this part of your image or is it covering a bald spot? >> it's a funny y thing. i've always, like, combed it this way. it's probably maybe a little more -- >> reporter: you've always combed it down? >> it's really combed down. if you really look, it's combed sort of back, come on, barbara. get over here. now you're going to mess it up for this interview. >> reporter: no, here, i'll fix. the. >> now after that, everyone knows it's real. >> reporter: okay, i'll go on. whats your greatest fear? >> well, i don't want to reveal fears because if i reveal fears, i'm giving up something. this is where i say i hate when i see generals being interviewed, because they're telling things that the enemy -- i don't like revealing weaknesses.
and, you know, we all have fears. but i don't like revealing my fes. >> reporter: okay. what's the trait you mt deplore in yourself? >> well, it's one i like best and it's the one that it's a little bitough for people. i never, ever quit. i never give up. and in one way, that can be a little aggravating to people. and in another way, i think it's a good trait. >> reporter: what do you dream about most frequently? >> just having a good life. good family, good life. so important. you know barbara, i see people that are very wealthy, friends of mine that are immensely wealthy people, the wealthiest people in the world, a lot of them aren't happy. they don't have a good family life. they don't have a good marriage. they don't have good kids or their kids are on drugs. the happiest people i see are people that have a good family life. >> reporter: on what occasions do you lie? lie, not telell the trh. >> well, i think i will oftentimes, and i don't call it
mebody's not looking good, i never wod y that. i'll say, "you're looking good" you doing?" and somebody could say that's a lie or it's a fib, but they don't look good but, you know, i don't want to hurt people's feelings. believe it or not, i
have a lot of feelings toward that. i don't want to hurt people's feelings. >> reporter: is there anything thatou want that you don't have? >> well, i think the one thing that i want right now is the presidency. i will do a great job and i'll make a lot of people happy. it will be very positive thing. i don't need it for myself or my ego. i just think i'd do a great job. thank you. you've met the children. now, meet the grandchildren. donald trump,the season's first snowfall brings all kinds of trouble... brad:
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once again, barbara walters with meet the trumps. >> hello, grandpa. >> reporter: it's a very different side of donald trump. the soft one. breaking from the daily grind, to greet his seven grandchildren. >> look at this, huh? what a troop. >> reporter: what is your father like as a grandfather? >> he's been great. he's at a different stage in his life. he's able to relax a little bit more and be a grandfather. >> everyone having a good time? >> i can see my kidsunning up to him and giving a hug and just respect him a lot. seems even the littlest trumps are already learning from grandpa. >> a few months ago. we're walking down the street. and my daughter sees a large pot hole in the middle of a new york city street, and she looks at me and she goes, "mom, grandpa would not like that." so it's very cute. and she's 4. so she's observed him. >> definitely genetics.
>> reporter: those grandchildren ranging in age from 17 months to 8 years old have an unlikely uncle in 9-year-olold barron >> why is your head on a baseball over there? >> reporter: while we were there, barron made a cameo appearance at his father's office. >> he's very close in age to my two oldest kids. they're like best friends. >> reporter: how old is barron now? >> barron's 9 now. he's very close toto my 8-year-old and my almost 7-year-old. and they have a great relationship. so it's almost we joke, you have to really respect your uncle, so, that drives my kids crazy, but they play almost as though they're, you know, cousins or brothers and sisters when we are together as a family. so, it's a great way to really e all of it together. >> say good-bye, everybod come on. >> bye! i love you. >> bye, everybody. bye. >> donald trump is saying good-bye, everybody, and now we're saying it, too.
i'm barbara walters. for all of us here at "20/20" and abc news, good night, and have a wonderful weekend.it's been snowing for hours and it's been snowing for hours and metro roads are still a mess. our road warriors are out in the storm to give us a look at what's happening now. local five news at 10 is next.
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