wilson looking. fires across the field! oh, what a pass! 36-yards! and a first down for the badgers. >> charles: when i talked with the offensive coordinator and asked him about jeff duckworth. he said i never call plays specifically for him but i never mind people throwing the football to him. how about him fighting off the defensive. >> fourth and sixth. the hand-off. touchdown, wisconsin! montee ball, 7-yards and the

badgers retake the lead! >> charles: now, they are going to go for two again. want to at least have a field goal difference if possible. that hole is wide open on the running play. now, don't be surprised here, gus, if they use wilson's legs, move him a little bit in this situation rather than just receiving him in the pocket. maybe get him to the edge with the run/pass option. >> gus: oust shotgun. wilson. in trouble. reverses. wilson back of the endzone. they got it! pedersen!

what it play by russell wilson! he has been a magician. and wisconsin takes a three-point lead with 3:45 to play in the big ten championship. >> charles: i called for a run pass option to get him to the corner. he used his legs anyway just in the pocket. >> gus: 3:45 to go. 42-39. badgers. look, it's ok to take the occasional gamble-

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incompletions? >> keshawn martin and b.j. cunningham the two receivers for michigan state have been wonderful as well. second and 10 at the 37. they hand it off. bell. and bell. crosses the line of scrimmage by mike taylor. who grabbed him and that makes it third down and 8 at the 39. >> charles: wisconsin is not a heavy pressure team on defense. i will be interested to see here on third and eight if they want to line up in the radar, no one down and bring pressure to kirk cousins. >> gus: watch nichols at the top of the screen. cousins. out. fires. and it's caught! keshawn martin.

ever. >> charles: look at him go up and get it. did the first foot come down? >> gus: oh, my goodness. >> charles: look, in the white with the foot. oh, the foot came down in and out. i don't know if you are going to be able to let that one stand. >> referee: the previous play is under further review. >> charles: watch how he comes down. oh. right there and see he is in the white. i think that is an incomplete pass. that is going to come back. >> gus: his toe touched first. there is. >> charles: there is the to but that foot is not squarely in the field of play. does he have the possession? i think it will come down to being an incomplete pass because the foot is not clearly

in bounds. >> check in with mark in the studio in los angeles. he is our rules analyst. mike, what a play. >> two things, gus, you got to look at here. they don't have the full step rule like the nfl. is the toe down inbounds but then he is going to the ground out-of-bounds. does he hold on to the ball when hits the ground or does it come loose while laying out-of-bounds. focus on the tow there but here as he goes to the ground watch the ball pop out of his happens. you have got to look at this and i think it is an incomplete pass. >> charles: the toe would keep him inbounds but not completing the process of the catch would make it an incomplete pass. >> that's correct. i think they will reverse this to incomplete. >> gus: i think it's a catch. >> charles: let's see as he goes to the ground as mike is talking about. does he maintain possession and does the ball stay. does it hit the ground. watch. going through. going through. ball stays with him.

if it is a toe, if it's the toe. >> referee: following the video review it has been determined that the receiver's foot was down out-of-bounds. the pass is incomplete. >> gus: and you guys are right. >> referee: at the 38.5-yard line. the clock is, correct. >> gus: thank you, mike. and thank you, charles. so incomplete. look at this. >> charles: this is how close it is. toe taps, but look at where the foot is. look at how much white is there. that is what the officials are determining, not a catch. >> gus: so that brings up fourth down and eight with 2:57 to go and michigan state is going to punt it. >> charles: but if you are wisconsin you don't even think about rushing here. what you play is punt safe. all you want is the football. you have a three-point lead. don't run into the kicker. >> gus: sends it away. abbrederis with the fair catch

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up by dennard. >> charles: stays inbounds which is nice for wisconsin. making michigan state use a time-out. >> gus: and coach brew, does wisconsin even think about throw hing the ball on this drive? >> absolutely not, gus. what they have got to do here is they have got to run the ball three downs. obviously they want to get a first down but they cannot allow the clock to be stopped by an incomplete pass. >> charles: michigan state will use their time outs. use one here and use another one on third down if they get the stop. >> charles: how big is the possession rather than give the ball back to kirk cousins with decent field position. >> absolutely huge, charles. this is what wisconsin does and what they are made for, guys, is this time right now, pound the rock. >> charles: i think they get into a tough spot with that quarterback and they might trust h him in order to keep

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>> kimberly: welcome back. third down five at the 24 for. >> gus: welcome back. coach brewster, quickly, what do you run if you are the badgers? >> they can run the ball inside but russell wilson right here a hard run fake and have him boot leg, keep the ball out the backdoor. i like that call right here. >> charles: possession is so key right now. a lot of time on the clock even if they trained the time out. this is a big one for wisconsin. i wouldn't doubt they would throw the ball here to try and pick it up. >> gus: third down and five. ewing. and ball in the backfield. wilson hands it to ball. ball will not get it. trenton robinson. robinson stopping it and that will force the badgers to punt it with 2:24 and counting. >> charles: that is pat narduzzi the defensive coordinator who normally works

out of the box. he came down to the field for the last crucial series. his offense is going to get the football back with a little less than two minutes to go in the game. >> brad nortman has been terrific punting the ball for wisconsin. he has been getting great hang time. keshawn martin has had to fair catch the ball a number of times tonight. he gets it up. for the line drive. and a flag. martin to the sideline. martin. martin goes down inside the five but a flag on the punt. wow! >> charles: and it looks -- and it looks like they got to the punter and if wisconsin gets the ball back, michigan state is out of time-outs. >> referee: running into the kicker, number 9, defense, five yard penalty.

the result, first down. >> gus: , frankly i'm a little surprised they came after it so hard because that is a nice job by nortman. let me tell you this is a nice job by him because he leaves a leg up there. as the punter is caught and then he takes a nice block but i don't think the official had any choice but to make the call. he comes through the body of him pretty well. nice acting job but that is what you are taught to do as a punter. but lewis should not be in the vicinity to have to make that call. >> gus: oh, charles. >> charles: he should not have been anywhere in any form close enough to him to force the officials to make the call. they had to make that one. >> gus: no time-outs for michigan state. wilson takes the knee. the wisconsin badgers behind this young man russell wilson are 1:20 away from winning the

inaugural big ten championship game. coming up after the game, stay tuned for the at&t post game show. we will wrap up with the presentation of the big ten championship trophy along with highlights and analysis from tonight's game. and wilson. comeback kid tonight. the usaa is a proud supporter of our men and women in uniform like badgers life greg are you see who served four tours of duty in iraq. >> charles: he ended up playing in the last game of the year against penn state, not in uniform today. but got a chance to play and this is a tough way for this game to end. great victortry for wisconsin but a tough way for it to go down for michigan state.

in that situation normally you play punt safe and get the football and try and run it downfield with the offense. >> gus: congratulations to the wisconsin badgers, favored by nine. the badgers win 42-39 to win the inaugural big ten conference championship game and wisconsin heads to pasadena to take on oregon in the rose bowl. ♪

what a game! 42-39 the final. and dhani joans is standing by a with happy russell wilson. >> a fantastic job. tell me, all way from north carolina state up to wisconsin. what does this mean to you today especially starting off the first day with confidence that the players have in you as being the captain and coming out here and lead this team to a championship? >> the fact that my teammates accepted me so quickly is unbelievable and we worked hard every single day. we battled and we had tough lots and kept battling. the guys picked it up every day in practice. worked hard. kept believing. tonight was a huge game. michigan state played really well and the fact that which is accept immediate to quickly. i want to thank coach bielema for giving me an opportunity and continuing to coach me and really and truely is a

blessing. >> dhani: truly redemption, the first game with michigan state and now coming out here, what does this mean to wisconsin. not only yourself but what does this mean to the university of wisconsin? >> the fact that we won the first ever big ten championship game ever. an opportunity to go to the rose bowl. going to play a great team in oregon. going to be a great a game. it is huge for this program. >> dhani: thank you very much, now back to you, tim. >> on wisconsin! >> gus: i have chris borland here with me. chris, the wisconsin badgers are going back to pasadena. the first inaugural big 12 champions. talk about the effort in the second half, chris. >> it was big. our offense played well all day but the defense didn't give us a chance in the first half. we played aahleful. we were composed in the locker room and knew we could come back. we did last time but this time we won it. it was a good win. >> talk about the significance of the transfer of russell

wilson and what he meant to this football team coming in here being a leader on offense and leading you guys to a big ten championship? >> russell has been good for us. that is an understatement. everybody knows how good of a player he is but for what he meant to the team and the inside the guys in the locker room he has been a leader since day one and we love russell and we are glad he is a badger. >> 42-29 the final. wisconsin comes back to win it. coming up after a commercial break, the presentation of the big ten championship trophy. ok look, when gas prices jump... you still gotta work. so suddenly you're cutting back on everything from family vacations to cell phone minutes. well here's a thought - how bout cuttin' back on gas?

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>> gus: welcome back to indianapolis and the at&t post game show. badger fans are rocking it out right now with a 42-39 win in the big ten championship game. here is the kay jewelers play

of the game. a historic play, charles, davis, one they will be talking about for a long time. >> charles: russell wilson's legs in time and then he throws up their version of a hail mary. and jeff duckworth comes down with the football to set up this touchdown by montee ball. the go-ahead touchdown. they get a two point conversion and they go on to win this game by three points. >> gus: now, let's go down to kevin fraser for the trophy presentation to proud badger fans. >> gus, thank you very much. what an inaugural big ten championship game we had tonight. here to make an historic presentation the commissioner of the big ten, jim delaney. >> wow!

before presenting the trophy, you can't have one of the greatest championship games in your inaugural year without complimenting michigan state. let's hear it for michigan state. [ applause ] >> and to present the inaugural big ten championship trophy to the coach of the wisconsin badgers, bret bielema, congratulations, bret. represent us well in pasadena! >> coach, how good does that feel to hold that championship trophy? especially thinking back to when your team was 2-2 in the

conference and it looked like it was time to pack it in? >> well, make it twice as nice. i think our kids never stopped waiverring in their faith. they were tremendous during the course of the last four week. today they weren't going to be denied and to do it here the first time ever in indy. big ten champs, twice! >> how about now heading to pasadena to play in the rose bowl. you will face, oregon. when does that preparation begin and what do you have to do to slow the ducks down? >> we are going to enjoy tonight. i want to thank all of our fans for coming out tonight and sticking with us during everything. our oregon prep will start as soon as we get back to madison and start enjoying and celebrate this one. can't say enough about the captains and senior leadership. >> i'm sure there is quite a party in madison right now. time to present the grain griffin trophy. one of the name sakes, a two-time heisman trophy winner

mr. archie griffin. >> congratulations to wisconsin. it is my oner to present the trophy to the game's most valuable player to russell wilson. [ applause ] >> russell, how much does it mean to you to be mvp and have bonded with these guys after just one year here? >> it is spectacular. the fact that they accepted me so quickly and took me in right away. everybody helped. it was truly a blessing in my life. i want to thank coach bielema for giving me the opportunity to come here and thank the wisconsin family just in general. i know my dad is sitting here watching with the biggest smile on his face. i'm happy about that. >> i'm he sure he is look down smiling at you. from the president of the tournament of roses mr. rick jackson has a special presentation. >> congratulations, coach.

we'll see you in pasadena! >> appreciate it. [ applause ] >> the wisconsin badgers you are headed to pasadena. you are the inaugural big ten championship game champions. congratulations, gentlemen. and let's go back upstairs to gus. >> gus: and thank you very much, kevin. what a game! 42-39. the wisconsin badgers hoist up the trophy as they defeat captioned by closed captioning services, inc. done. get out there. so 12 seconds ago. you guys know how to post videos to facebook?

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>> gus: and welcome back to the at&t post game show here in indianapolis. what a night it was at lucas oil stadium. back and forth the badgers and

spartans went. and in the end, wisconsin winning it, 42-39. gus johnson along with charles davis. whew! is all we can say after watching that kind of game and what makes it so special this is the inaugural big ten championship game and we see a thrill. >> charles: they he set a high bar, didn't they? and two teams that refused to back down from each other. wisconsin at halftime had some soul searching to do and they did it. and came out re-established themselves in the second half. neither one would go away. the way it ended, it is going to be tough for michigan state to swallow but they never should have been that close to the punter to begin with. congratulations wisconsin for gritting it out. >> gus: how about russell wilson? >> charles: fantastic. one of the greatest transfer stories ever in college football. wisconsin happy to have him. the two teams played ten times, five and five. >> gus: congratulations to the

wisconsin badgers and the michigan state spartans. now, let's go to kevin fraser. >> kevin: fantastic game as always. a lot of folks from wisconsin in red lingering in lucas oil stadium soaking up the moment enjoying it and also they want to check out the guy next to us, montee ball. kevin fraser and marcus allen. dhani jones. what does this moment mean to you? >> a great feeling right now. going back to california great to see after halftime we came back and overcame the adversity and played as a team. >> talk about the game and your attitude. you ran the ball consistently back to back to back. a lot of responsibility on your shoulders. >> that is what i asked the coach at the beginning of the game. i'm trying to put the team on my back and make plays. we did a great job of trying to impose our will on michigan state. >> montee i often said as a running back you have to of all of the stars in the field you have to say that you are the best athlete and the field and

you can't be denied. you were great in the first quarter. shut you down in the second but you had that determination. >> michigan state, a great team. run defense. we knew we were face adversity. going halftime we talked about some time. >> montee, i want you to take a peek at the highlights we are going to roll for you right now. starts with the great pass you threw. what is going on there. a great ball you threw up to russell wilson. >> i didn't even see the ball. i don't know where it landed. so we executed. >> you threw that blind? >> yeah. honestly, i threw that blind. >> how do you know it is going to happen? >> i saw the defender behind russell. >> meanwhile, what does montee ball do, marcus? >> he scores touchdowns but one of the things i like about montee ball, one of the great practice players in the country and translates in the game. if you practice hard it is easy in the game time.

>> that is what coach told me and that is what i think it what you do in practice is what you will do in a game. i really get after myself in practice. >> last season into this season you decided to change your type of game. lose a little weight. keep your strength to keep the power running. why did you decide to do that? >> because honestly last year in the rose bowl i really put that loss to myself because there was a lot of shoestring tackles. in the off season i told myself i got to lose some weight and my cut has got to be better and carry it forward to the season. >> somebody had a great sign in the stadium tonight that said roses of red and tonight the wisconsin badgers are headed back to pasadena as they win the inaugural big ten championship game. congratulations, montee ball on a great effort and we will see what happens with the heisman, too. >> absolutely. >> be in new york next week. >> montee ball and badgers win the big ten championship game. big win. congratulations.

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picture says it all. the badgers are headed to pasadena after they win a thriller in the inaugural big ten championship. got to love those roses! they love them right now in madty son. >> i don't know if you can buy them in madison right now. look back on the game and it was a great and well played game but came down to one big play in the end, marcus which you hate to see happen, the roughing the kicker. >> marcus: what a shame. nulllyfyed a long point return by keshawn martin. you couldn't script a game better. all the stars in the game stepped up and played to the level that we expected them to. this was an outstanding game. drama back and forth and came down to roughing the kicker. special teams again. >> kevin: special teams already. talk about the game-winning drive and what wisconsin did to

win the game. >> dhani: the person you really want to talk about is duckworth. how he was able to play this game. who would have thought he would have made as many plays as he did as far as russell wilson connecting to the passers and all of a sudden montee ball and what he is able to bring to the table. again, russell wilson out of the pocket. deep pass. and who goes up and gets it? jeff duckworth. in the midst of two defenders and now montee ball rumbling into the endzone. a fantastic job. talk about russell wilson and what he is able to bring to the table and his ability to move his feet incredible. >> one of the things that was interesting at the beginning of the game while he was warming up russell wilson came out and made the throw that he made to duckworth over and over again. we were marveling at how accurate he was and how far he could throw the ball with ease on the move. look what happens. >> talked about the heros in the game and talked about duckworth.

remember, he replaced nick toon. he went out with a shoulder injury. and he comes out with the big play. >> you said earlier what did nick toon do with russell wilson. asked him if he could throw the ball and hit the crossbar. he looked at him and said you are our quarterback. and today he got the job done. >> heart break for the many spartan fans out there. michigan state played a great game. check in with tim brewster who is standing by with coach mark dantonio. >> here with coach mark dantonio. i know it was an extremely tough loss. great momentum going in the second quarter. what happened in the second half? >> i think in the second half they sort of seized the momentum a little bit and we came back. i thought we took control of the game again, we were up by eight or so. pretty much what i said at , the loss plays byhe loose

wilson. throws it up and makes a play. if we got that one stopped we have the ball with four minutes to go and up by i guess five or so. difficult. in the last, you know, the last play of the game was difficult to stomach the way it all went down. we had to go after the block. he was clean to the block. i don't know if he touched the guy or not. keyshawn brings it back the whole way. you don't expect that but it happened. great football game. i thought pretty much where we talked about all along. both teams showed a great amount of maturity as football teams bouncing back and continuing to play. they got moxie and they got toughness. >> gus: coach, talk about your team and the success of this season. this senior class obviously you have got one more game to go play. >> we have a great senior class. we won a lot of football games. i don't know whether we will go to a bcs game or not. we certainly i think are one of the two best teams in the conference but there is for

other people to decide. we have another game. sometimes you got to take tough losses and learn from them just like life. learn from the tough things in your life and the toughest lessons usually help you out more or less as you go. but very disappointing. >> you know -- i know exactly how you feel, coach, and i wish you the best in the bowl game. >> thanks, tim. >> tough to walk into that locker room and console guys who played their heart out and had a great season. final thoughts, guys, marcus, you thirst. >> marcus: my final thoughts are big ten, pac 12. that is what my final thoughts are. rose bowl should be exciting. oregon versus the wisconsin badgers. going be interesting. >> dhani: today was a fantastic game. nontraditional in what people think about the big ten. who would think the ball would be all over the field.

i'm looking forward to the rose bowl. i would like some roses myself. >> dhani, thank you for hanging out with us today. you did a fantastic job and i think marcus likes you, too,gy think it is okay. a great job. >> thank you, kevin. >> kevin: remind everybody, tomorrow an nfl on fox double-header headlined by america's game of the week. check your local listings for the games and times in your area. coverage begins with pregame show at noon eastern, 9:00 a.m. pacific. coming up next on fox except on the west coast your late local news followed by fox late night hell's kitchen and i hate my teenaged daughter and for extended coverage of tonight's game tune in now to the big tenet work for the state farm big tenet work post game show. for the latest college football news log on to foxsports.com on msn. on behalf of the entire crew

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>> robbing from preschools inside local churches. we have the surveillance video here that police hope will help them catch a thief. after days of speculation, herman cain announces he's suspending his presidential campaign. so what does this mean for 2012? we're going in depth to find

out. and a wonderful weather start to the weekend so far. a live look outside. the beautiful washington monument and how long will it last? you're about to find out. thanks for joining us after the game. i'm will thomas. >> i'm maureen umeh. off of the top tonight, chevy chase police want to catch a thief who have chosen the holiest of places to steal from. >> he's targeting churches. at one, it was caught on camera. audrey barnes has a closer look at the crimes and the videotape. >> reporter: while parents were dropping off their children for preschool outside of the all saints church on friday morning, surveillance cameras captured pictures of this man prowling around inside looking for things to steal in desk drawers and purses. >> there is ultimately -- he stole cash and a metro fair card from purses belonging to two employees of the preschool. >> reporter: the chevy chase police said the man got into the building after requesting information about the priest

school. a ruse he used at other churches on the same day. >> his routine seems to be gaping the confidence by going to the place under the ruse that he's a parent and allowed in at a busy time of the day and uses their distraction to take things. >> reporter: the three other churches, chevy chase baptist, chevy chase presbyterian and blessed sacrament all have the suspect's picture posted in their buildings and they're on the lookout for the church band it with the silver cruisie fix and grinch-like -- crufix and grinch-like intensions. >> this guy is despicable and doing this into the holiday season. he's done the same thing or attempted it at three additional churches in the chevy chase area. we want to put the grab on him. >> reporter: the chief can't say for certain if anything was taken at the three churches over the d.c. line but does not think the thief is an amateur and will continue the crime spree until he's caught. if you recognize him or know

anything about him, call the chevy chase village police department. audrey barnes, fox 5 news. herman cain has all but officially dropped out of the race for president. he announced he's suspending the campaign. he appeared with his wife gloria days after the allegations of a 13-year affair with another atlanta woman named ginger white. between that and four accusation of sexual harassment, she said it was too much of a burden on his campaign and the people he loved. >> i am suspending my presidential campaign because of the continued distraction, the continued hurt caused on me and my family. not because we are not fighters. >> cain still denies wrongdoing

with any of the women and said he will eventually endorse a candidate. joining me to discuss what this means for between 12 is republican strategist jack burtman and welcome to the show. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. thank you for having us. >> jack, let's go to you. suspended campaign is a prelude to jumping out of the race altogether. what does it mean for cain? does he support someone else at this point when who -- and who benefits from it? >> not quite. he will announce that in a month or so. i have been to thousands of political rallies and had is the strangest thing i saw. the confity and banners and the rousing speech and at the end, said i'm suspending campaign. 25 years of politics, i have never seen anything stranger than today. he field me. your own john roberts said it best. he said this will be cruel and unusual punishment if he drops out for the fans and viewers. who benefits? two people. cain is a social conservative. >> uh-huh.

>> i think rick santorum benefits and michele bachmann. they're two social conservatives and two who need help now. >> on the democratic side, how does this play out, brandon? >> i think it became a joke, his cappedacy at the end and i hate to say that and people saw him go. john stewart and david letterman. he shouldn't have been running for president. and i just think that, you know n terms of the who benefits, maybe it's -- and newt gingrich at this point. there is a poll out tonight in iowa saying that gingrich is leading in iowa with ron paul second and mitt romney third. the gingrich is the anti-romney and, therefore, i think he benefits from it. >> let me offer you one thing. >> uh-huh. >> everyone's piling on herman cain. this business of three or four people come out, not to beat a dead horse, but three, four people come out and make unfounded accusations and say where there is smoke there is fire. i think it's fundamentally unfair. i have been the victim of

internet rumors and so many people on television have. >> and you would -- cain didn't help his cause with the responses to the accusations? >> and there is some incold fronty in his responses and i am not here to represent cain or not, but it's like if we walk out on wisconsin avenue and two guys on the street come up to me and say hey, i saw mitt romney sell drugs two days ago. does that mean we believe them? does it say because two people said it, there must be something to it. i think our standards have fallen in journalism. >> and there -- and can argue about the accusations of the harassment and affair, that is what did him in, but if you watch his campaign, he was not prepared to be president. look at the question on libya where he paused for an eternity and so many questions where he didn't know how to answer them. >> do you think when it's said and done, does the guy have a political future? i will give you that first, brendan and then you can

answer, jack. >> may be so. to be honest, i think he's a joke and will be hard for him to recover from this. >> and i agree on that. i would have advised him strongly not to quit today. he can't be anything and can't run again. there is no future. >> and you think anyone he does endorse, will that person want the endorsement or is it damage something. >> he has a bloc of support. i am sure they will take the encoarsement and at some point -- endorsement, at some point next year, they will do a quick rally with cain in georgia and take the endorsement. i don't think that it will have much impact. >> i agree. there is not much of anm pact on that at all. >> we're going to leave it at that and with herman cain, i am sure we have not heard the last of that. >> nine-9-9. >> thank you very much for coming in tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you. and meanwhile, the remaining gop presidential caat