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>> chris: i'm chris wallace. the political rage in america escalates leading one man to violence. >> it takes some kind of stamin stamina. >> we are not allowed to punch back anymore. i love the old days, do you know what they used to do with a guy like that in a place like this? they would be carried on, structure, folks. >> this rhetoric and discourse has led to gunfire. >> chris: we will discuss how the partisan climate has grown so toxic and what politicians in the media can do
with one of the survivors of the shooting republican congressman rodney davis and with democratic senator amy klobuchar. then president trump confirms he is now under investigation as the special counsel broadens the russia probe to look into possible obstruction of justice. we will discuss the potential case against the president and his defense strategy with jay secular, a member of his legal team. plus, president trump announces a rollback of the obama administration's opening to cuba. >> president trump: effective immediately i am canceling the last administrations completely one sided deal with cuba. >> chris: we will ask our sunday panel if the new policy goes too far, or not far enough. and our power player of the week, one man's journey bringing comfort to foster children. >> a child deserve
something that's brand-new that belongs to them. >> chris: all right now now on "fox news sunday" ." hello again, and happy father's day from fox news in washington. the nation's capital is still shaking from this week's attack where a gunman opened fire on republican members of congress during a baseball practice. house rep additive steve scalise has been upgraded to critical condition after serious after several operations. both sides are asking how they contributed to the toxic political climate and what they can do to change it. senator amy klobuchar joins us in the film, a few minutes. first rodney davis was on the field when that shooting occurred. how are you, four days after the attack, how are you doing? >> representative davis: it's still pretty surreal.
best father's day i've ever had to be able to come back home and see the outpouring of care and support from the people that know me best, including my family, it's been a really humbling event and very memorable for me and my family. >> chris: have you gotten over it in an emotional sense or are you still in shock? >> representative davis: people tell you how you are supposed to feel, but it never seems that you do. i still sense normalcy, there are times when i'm probably a little more agitated, there are things i will do differently in my life and in my workplace to ensure that we probably put security up more as a priority than we have in the past, and it's a sad state to be and when you woke up a few days ago, got in the car, went to a baseball field to practice for a charity game in the next thing you know bullets are flying. >> chris: i want to take you back to just after the shooting. your you
>> this political rhetoric and discourse has led to hate, has led to gunfire. i called my wife and my children immediately when i got a hold of a phone, i told them i love you. and that's okay. >> chris: congressman, you said that you were at your breaking point and to call this an act of political, rhetorical terrorism. now that you've had a few days to think about it, but to all of us, politicians and media, what can we do to change it and frankly, how long do you think that relief will last? >> representative davis: i may have made it too complicated, chris. i want to change that to just political terrorism because obviously evidence from the shooter, this maniac who began firing at all of us shows that he turned his religion into politics and
their religion into politics they are no better than anyone else who hijacks a religion and tries to indiscriminately kill innocent people. that's what we experienced that day and i thank god every day was to capital placement agent bailey and agent reiner were there to save us all. i hope and prayed that we can take this day, this day, this tragedy that could have been much, much worse and turn it into an opportunity to come together as americans because no one, i don't care what side you are on, no one deserves to have the violence that we all experienced just four short days ago. >> chris: in 2011 after congresswoman gabby giffords was shot in a sopping center outside tucson, president obama made a similar appeal, take a look. >> it's important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a
in in the way that wounds. >> chris: as you know all too well since then the political discourse in this country has only gotten worse. >> representative davis: it has, chris, and the polarization has seemingly continued to rise on both sides and creating the fringes on the right and the left. that's why since i've been elected to congress i try to be somebody talks about bipartisanship and actually has a record of bipartisanship. now i want to stand up and ask the american people, those of us who are the majority in this country, who want republicans and democrats to work together, let's stand up to the hate on both sides, but stand up to the rhetoric we see that lead to bullets being fired at a baseball field just a few days ago. >> chris: final question, there's been a lot of talk about beefing up security for members of congress, even talk about members like yourself being able to carry your own guns for self pr
on the one hand the fact that you want voters to have access to, but on the other hand, you need to be protected? >> representative davis: that's a debate that we are going to continue to have. i think it's an important debate to have and i want to tell you and all of your viewers that i was cleaning out my baseball bag the day after the shooting, after we played our congressional baseball game for charity, and as i pulled something out from the area where you store your bets, i saw something drop on the ground, and here it is today. this is a piece of shrapnel from a madman who came to politically kill innocent people. this is the reminder that all of us have that we have to take a step back in this country, we have to tone down this rhetoric and we got to come together as a nation, as americans, and say enough is enough. thank you for having me on. >> chris: i thank you for that message, sir. thank you, thanks for your time, i know
father's day for you and your family. >> representative davis: it yes it well. >> chris: joining us now for minneapolis, democratic senator amy klobuchar. i want to start with the town hall last month in north dakota where one voter in front congressman kevin kramer about the effort to repeal and replace obamacare, here it is. >> answer yes or no. will the rich senator -- yes or no? >> of course not! >> chris: it was the same back in 2101 republicans, members of the tea party or going after democrats for trying to pass obamacare in the first place. has our politics gotten out of control senator ? >> senator klobuchar: thank you for that question, chris. first of all i want to say i'm so pleased by the words
saved and i'm so glad steve scalise, his condition is improving. i do think that the language, the rhetoric on both sides has gotten out of control. as you know it is on both sides. i'm someone that believes you have to treat people civilly but you can disagree and that courage is truly not whether you are going to yell at someone in the middle of an empty chamber but whether you are willing to stand next to someone you don't always agree with the betterment of this country. that means finding common ground and higher ground. i think a senator from wyoming, republican, who has said it we disagree on a lot of things, but we can agree on about 80% of the things 80% of the time. trying to find those areas, whether for funding for for roads and bridges, whether we need to upgrade that, looking for ways that we can all say not
everyone needs -- let's get more kids into jobs where we have openings. i think there are areas where we can find common ground and that's what i tried to do in my work. >> chris: part of the problem is we seem to be in a vicious cycle. back in 2010 democrats passed obamacare without a single republican vote. this year republicans seem to be trying to pass repeal and replace without a single democratic vote. how do you stop the vicious cycle? >> senator klobuchar: you can start right now. the american people would really like to see us work together on health care and there were plenty of changes we need to make to the affordable care act like bringing the prices of prescription drugs down, bills that i have with senator mccain and senator senator as well as what they should be doing to make sure the exchanges are strong. doing it behind closed doors is actually not what we did with the affordable care act.
opportunity given what we are seeing across the country with the prices of prescription drugs, we could work on it together. >> chris: let me just ask you a question about that, and part of this is both sides have to admit they are doing things wrong. having democrats held up of trump terminations, some of them are conservatives, some of them are mainstream. i saw a statistic today that the average weight between george w. bush and obama was a couple of days. for donald trump it has been 25 days, the average delay. would you agree that your party is guilty of some obstruction here? >> senator klobuchar: i'm not saying we are perfect throughout time, but i do know that all of his cabinet nominees are now in place, that they have been loaded on, some with significant democratic support. now we are working down to the
they have been well reported, haven't put people up for a lot of positions. when they come up, especially in the military area, security area, we try to move quickly on those. we need to do what we can to fill those positions, but again, the president has to govern, and not just going to those moments away when he sends out tweets at seven in the morning because i do think there are many of us that want to govern, that believe we are in a crisis in the economy, we are at a time of opportunity, so let's use that opportunity. >> chris: i will get to those tweets in a moment, but generally after an attack like this, democrats are quick, and you in some cases have been quick to talk about gun control. this time almost all democrats including you have been silent about tougher gun controls, how come? >> senator klobuchar: first of all, this was a man with severe mental illnesses, we don't know all the facts here. we came together with republicans and
should have better background checks. we did that the last time after sandy hook, we were unsuccessfu unsuccessful. i think what we need to look at, of course i'm ranking on the rules committee, we should look how to beef up security at events like this and in the capital, but the bigger lesson from this comment to me, is that i hope people, just like they did on that baseball field, i was there with a 25,000 people that joined in, they were out on the field looking like they liked each other. at the end when the democrats won the game they gave the trophy to the republicans and ask them to put it in steve scalise's office, we need to take that spirit and go from two teams to one team for america. >> chris: i want to ask you as a member of the senate judiciary committee, you mentioned tweets and i want to ask about president trump's tweet on friday. let's put it up on the screen. "i am being investigated for flying the fbi director by the man who told me to fire the
director. witch hunt." question, do you believe the president is trying to get rid of deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and perhaps also the special counsel robert mueller? >> senator klobuchar: i hope not. speaker ryan has given him the advice to let the special counsel to its top and as a factual matter, rod rosenstein has told the senate in a briefing and he said publicly that the president had made up his mind already to fire jim comey before he even wrote that memo. finally, these tweets, these tweets, really every time one goes out it does squander this moment of governorship. i think there are areas we can come together with the administration, with republicans, including things like infrastructure, things like doing something on workforce training, doing something on tax reform, but it's going to be really hard to
those tweets come out at 7:00 in the morning and then the whole focus of washington and the country is on what the president said last time. let's use this moment to govern. >> chris: final question, if the president does go ahead, and there are some talk about firing rod rosenstein, or firing robert mueller, what would the reaction be in congress? >> senator klobuchar: i think that would be a disaster. mueller is just starting to do his work, the chips will fall where they may. this is about a foreign government, the country of russia trying to influence an american election and marco rubio himself has said this time it was one party, one candidate, next time it will be another. we need to figure out what happened and then move forward together as a country. the president should not be firing the man rod rosenstein, who was in fact the person that was appointed by george bush, has served
attorney and is trying to do his job. bob mueller, former fbi director strongly supported by republicans in the past, let them do their work. >> chris: senator sabia, thank you, thanks for joining us. >> senator klobuchar: happy father's day, chris! >> chris: thank you! remember to get your kids to call their dad. >> senator klobuchar: that's a very important thing, i'm texting my daughter after we stop and reminding her to do the same. >> chris: she watched the show, maybe you won't need to. >> senator klobuchar: exactly. >> chris: up next we will bring in our sunday group to discuss call for unity in washington and how long that willle last. the world of fast food is being changed by faster networks. ♪ ♪ ♪ data, applications, customer experience. ♪ ♪ ♪ which is why comcast business delivers consistent network performance and speed
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>> chris: chilling footage from wednesday's attack on the g.o.p. congressional baseball practice that left four people shot, including a member of congress and its time now for our sunday group, fox news sera political analyst brit hume. columnist for the hill juan williams. julie pace, the new washington bureau chief for the associative press, congratulations. >> thank you very much. >> chris: and "washington examiner" contributor lisa boothe. obviously nobody can directly link this attack, the actions of a deranged man to the political climate in washington, but why have things turned so venomous here over the years, and is there any way to stop it? >> i think that congressman davis had it part right
wrong because i think the poisonous political climate in the poisonous language with which people who disagree speak of each other is as much -- and the attitudes on capitol hill, as much a reflection of what's in the country as they are a cause of it. we hear people speak of each other today and twitter, and political debate in a way that never used to be the case to this extent. people don't really disagree, they think the other party, the other side is evil and must be stopped. this is really something new, we need to keep a civil tone and america and recognize humanity and the decency of the other side. what we have is the most vicious sort of name-calling and it doesn't help from the president, who were certainly been a victim of this himself adds to it with the force of his own rhetoric, you've got lying tired and crooked hillary and bad people he says are investigating in.
this climate of rage and hate of the two political viewpoints that dominate the country, it's poison. >> chris: i want to pick up on them because there was a very interesting story in "the new york times" this week, a study was done and it found that people in the dash i'm not talking about politicians, i'm talking about people, voters -- they used to basically have no use for each other, now they hate each other. it was a thermometer from one to 100 and the average now ten, that's how i scold their feelings are for people of the other party, the question is how do you change it? >> you have to understand that the confirmation bias that exists in terms of media contacts, where you get your information and are you living in a bubble, it's almost become secure in this area of the internet for people local points of view affirm their pre-existing prejudices. friday was the anniversary of lincoln's
against itself cannot stand speech. i feel like we are in that moment, this is one of the most divided moments, just by living in this community that i've ever experienced in all my years in washington. the part that is so i think damning was spoken by jim mathis, peace was asked about what worried him the most, he didn't say any military enemy, it was the division among us at americans, the failure to talk, to listen, to be able to compromise and come to a solution, he said we can't go on like this because what we fight for our american principles and values and yet those are shattered. >> chris: president trump made several appeals this week for unity, here was his weekly address. >> president trump: we have our differences, what unites us is so much stronger, a love of our country, our devotion to its people. now more than ever these values must gui
closer together. >> chris: julie, did they feel any responsibility in the white house, did you hear any talk about that for this division, obviously it didn't start with donald trump but i think it's safe to say a number of people would say he has added to it, and is there any sign that the president through all of that talk intends to dial back his rhetoric? >> if you look at the way the president handled the immediate aftermath of the shooting, his remarks not only their but also in the diplomatic room just hours after happened, it was measured, it was responsible, it was sober when you look at some of his tweets that he's going back to calling hillary clinton crooked hillary, this is just part of his persona. he does not seem to believe that any of the rhetoric that we've heard from him both during the campaign and as president has contributed to this heightened sense of tension that we have between these parties. i don't anticipate that you are going to see a dramatic shift from him. i do think that he handled
responsible way. >> chris: we should point out there's plenty of blame to go to both sides because on the other side you got that tasteless -- on the left you can see photo op by kathy griffin, not funny. and then you also have a production of the julius caesar, shakespeare in the park in new york city were julius caesar as you can see it looks just like donald trump. there's plenty of hate on the left as well, in their? >> there absolutely is. if you had members of congress who are on the field being shot at in the aftermath calling for unity but that i question the sincerity of some on the left of their calls for unity. the day after the shooting, nancy pelosi when asked if the political -- if the political culture was equally affecting the left in the right, proceeded to attack republicans going back to 1990 calling in the sanctimonious republicans, accusing the president -- mind
you, if this is the the dayr unknown bernie sanders reported with a list of republicans to assassinate in his pocket proceeded to carry out that exact thing. october 2016, firebombs, february 2017, a 71-year-old staffer knocked unconscious. >> chris: we can point to all those, we can also point to gabrielle giffords being shot, a democratic congresswoman. >> there is no link between the shooter and the tea party. >> chris: are you starting to say it's all on one side? >> i'm saying that we pose this question by a minority leader nancy pelosi the simple answer would have been yes. >> these are politicians, they lead to some extent, but they also follow. the divisions you see play in capitol hill and elsewhere are a function of the sentiments of constituents, that's why you dot
the part of democrats with storm, with whom they might be able to, it's because their constituents think trump is utterly evil and unsuited for office and they don't want any part of it and i don't want anybody who represents under a part of it, that is a reflectio reflection. the causes of that go much deeper, the leaders can lead and it takes a great one to lead us out of this if that's going to happen. they are also a following and it's the broad climate of the country on both sides that is responsible. >> chris: we have to take a break, we will see you all a little later. up next the president tweets he is under. a member of his legal team joins us life.
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associates and whether the president has tried to shut down and probe took some dramatic new turns this week. joining me now is jay secular, a member of the president's legal team. i want to start with the president's tweet friday which i discussed with democratic senator amy klobuchar, here it is again, i'm being investigated for firing the fbi director by the man who told me to fire the fbi director, witch hunts. has the special counsel, robert mueller formally notify the president that he is under investigation? >> mr. sekulow: the president has not been notified by anyone that he is under investigation. that tweet was in response to "the washington post" story that five unnamed sources, anonymous sources leaked to "the washington post" that the president wasn't back under investigation. netsuite was in response to that. there's been no notification of any investigation. nothing has changed. >> chris: but you don't know that he isn't under
investigation now, do you? >> mr. sekulow: no one has notified us that he has so i can't read people's minds but i can tell you this, we have not been notified that there's an investigation to the president of the united states. nothing has changed in that regard since jamie colby's testimony. >> chris: i want to go after another part of this tweet, why is he going after deputy attorney general rod rosenstein. he seems to imply that rosenstein is investigating, and that's not true. it mueller. and secondly he made it clear in an interview with nbc that he decided to fire comey while before he ever met with rod rosenstein, take a look. >> president trump: i was going to fire him. he made a recommendation, highly respected, very smart guy, very good guy, the democrats like him, the republicans like him. regardless of recommendation. >> chris: i want to ask you a direct question,
president think that rod rosenstein has done anything wrong? >> mr. sekulow: the president has never said anything about rod rosenstein doing anything wrong. here's what's the legal situation here. there's a constitutional issue when you have the scenario. the president made a determination based on consult of advice he decided that ultimately he gets to make a decision with james comey had a go. that's been coming from groups right, left, and center. it was put forward in a memorandum, that's what he's referencing from the deputy attorney general and the attorney general requesting the removal of james comey as the fbi director. ultimately it's the president's determination. here's the constitutional threshold. the president takes action based on numerous events, including recommendations from his attorney general and the deputy attorney general. he takes the action that they also recommended and now he's being investigated by the departnt
the special counsel reports -- not an independent counsel. he's being investigated for taking the action that the attorney general and deputy attorney general recommended him to take by the agency who recommended the termination. that's the constitutional threshold question here. >> chris: what's the question? you stated some facts. you know so that he is being investigated after saying -- >> mr. sekulow: he's not being investigated! 's me when you just said he's being investigated. >> mr. sekulow: let me be crystal clear so you completely understand, we are not aware of any investigation. >> chris: you just said it two times he's being investigated. >> mr. sekulow: no. i gave it the legal theory of how the constitution works. if, in fact, it was correct that the president was being investigated he would be investigated for taking action that an agency told him to
that is protected under the constitution as his article one power, that's all i said. i appreciate you trying to rephrase it. >> chris: i didn't rephrase it it. the tape will speak for itself, you said he is being investigated. wait a minute. it's not just being investigated for firing comey, there's also the question of what he said to comey when he was told the fbi director. there's more than just the fact that he fired comey. >> mr. sekulow: let me be clear, you ask me a question about what the president's tweet was regarding the deputy attorney general of the united states, that's what you asked me. i responded to what that legal theory would be. i do not appreciate you putting words in my mouth when i've been crystal clear that the president is not and has not been under investigation. i don't think i could be any clearer than that. >> chris: you don't know that he's not. >> mr. sekulow: i can't read the mind. >> chris: so we are in agreement, you don't know
investigation or not. the question i'm asking you is does he think -- it's a very simple question, does he think that rod rosenstein did anything wrong? >> mr. sekulow: the president has not express any opinion about rod rosenstein. >> chris: does he think that robert mueller has done anything wrong? >> mr. sekulow: he has not said anything about robert mueller. let me say something. if i had a conversation, which i have not had, about robert mueller with the president of the united states, i can't discuss that, it would that with you. unlike james comey, who leaked information to the press, i actually respect attorney-client privilege. he apparently did not. >> chris: you are out here to represent him and tell us what his belief is, is that correct? >> mr. sekulow: i'm here to tell you what the facts are and the legal issues, i'm not saying with the beliefs are, i'm not the clients conscience conscience, and his lawyer. >> chris: have you spoken to the president at all? >> mr. sekulow: yes, but i'm not going to discuss those conversations with
>> chris: i assume if he asked her to say something, for instant mark sets all kinds of things after comey's testimony, i assumed he was speaking for the president. >> mr. sekulow: came made a general statement to the present after the testimony of james comey, that's what that was about. you are asking me no questions about what people are thinking in their minds, which i don't remind you are asking me also when they may or may have had a conversation with the president about. you understand this, i respect the attorney-client privilege, unlike james comey. i want to be real clear on that. i'm not going to give you conversations i've had or have not had with the president. as his lawyer it's privileged, period. >> chris: does the president think that rosenstein, because he talked about this constitutional theory that he took action, that's on the advice level, he said he didn't take it on the advice of rosenstein, does he think that he should recuse himself, and is healing the groundwork to fire rosenstein and mueller? >> mr. sekulow: i had no conversations and necar
nothing. lemme tell you one thing quickly about the constitutional theory, as you call it, it's actually called the constitution. the president has certain authority. you called it the constitutional theory, sir. >> mr. sekulow: it is a constitutional theory based on the constitution. not so-called, it's the theory. here's what you're trying to do, and i appreciate it. >> chris: now your reading minds again. >> mr. sekulow: no, chris, i deal with facts and law. >> chris: don't tell me what i'm trying to do because you don't know what i'm trying to do. actually what i'm trying to get is a straight answer out of you. let me ask you this, as a matter of law, because the president think that he can be indicted under the constitution? >> mr. sekulow: i haven't had that conversation with the president, but he can't be indicted under the constitution of the activity alleging something like this, of course not. >> chris: why is that? >> mr. sekulow: because there's not an investigation. >> chris: you don't k
oh, boy, this is weird. you just told us that you didn't know. >> mr. sekulow: we were asking me to do with -- >> chris: i'm asking you a matter of law, not whether there's a investigation, does the president think he can be indicted as president? that's a constitutional issue. >> mr. sekulow: for obstruction of justice? >> chris: for anything. >> mr. sekulow: let's be realistic here, you know what the answer is, can president be indicted for obstruction, since the 1970s and again stated in 2000, that's not how you engage a president, there is a political process. you are conflating a constitutional process, criminal law with an issue of political consequence. i'm his lawyer, not his political advisor. >> chris: senator feinstein, the top democrat on the senate judiciary committee responded to the president's tweet this week with the statement. the message of the president is sending through his tweets is
doesn't apply to him and then anyone who thinks otherwise will be fired. is she wrong, sir? >> mr. sekulow: yes, she's wrong. first of all, she also called for an investigation of james comey and the red alert for that episode regarding her engagemen engagement, calling it a matter, not an investigation. in regards to this issue, there's nothing illegal or inappropriate about the tweet. it came on the heels of a "washington post" story that had five anonymous sources and didn't even identify the agency from which the sources came from and that's what he tweet in response to, it's that simple, period. >> chris: final question, the president just added a high-powered washington lawyer to his legal team, should we expect him to hire other criminal lawyers, and in a sense, is he preparing for potential legal battle here? >> mr. sekulow: outlook, john dowd is a legal legend, you know that in washington, d.c.
appropriate thing by hiring lawyers necessary if there was to be an investigation, if there were to be an investigation, you have the lawyers in place. we got a great legal team led by mark has a wits, we got john dowd on the team, it's a solid team, a deep team. >> chris: i misspoke, i will ask one more question because i'm not allowed to ask with the president thinks, do you think that he should stop tweeting about this case? >> mr. sekulow: here's the thing on that, people have been asking me that. the president has changed the way in which engagement goes, you've got great ratings, no doubt about it, but let's face it, the president speaks to 107 million people. he revolutionized the election process by utilizing media in a different way. i think, look, the president knows the effectiveness of social media, and his lawyer, i deal with the issues, nothing that he's tweeted is causing me any issues whatsoever at this point, nothing. >> chris: thanks for coming in. always interesting to talk to you, please
continue it and maybe this time -- be here in studio and we can stay on the same wavelength. >> mr. sekulow: there we go. happy father's day. >> chris: happy father's day to you, sir. up next we will bring back our sunday group to discuss the latest development in the special counsel's investigation. plus the president rolls back mr. obama's cuba policy, what would you like to ask the panel about the reversal? go to facebook or twitter, @foxnewssunday, and we may use your question on the air.
>> i think the best thing to do is to let robert mueller do his job. the best thing for the present is to let the investigation going independently and thoroughly. >> chris: house speaker ryan one of a chorus of republican leaders wanting president trump not to fire the special counsel who was investigating thanks to russia and the possible attempt to obstruct justice. actually, it got quite a story out this week saying that the president feels increasingly under siege about the investigation and is now taken to yelling at the television when he sees coverage of the investigation, what can you tell us about what his mood is? >> increasingly sees himself as the victim of a politically motivated attempt to end his
frustrated -- >> chris: you could argue he's right about that. >> you could, but the investigation is going to go on whether he feels that way or not. one of the things his advisors say is he's frustrated because he doesn't have the ability to control this so you see him lashing out in these various ways on twitter, he's consumed by the coverage and he watches it in real time. he has the televisions on what is being said about him, it's really feel this anxiety because again this is not something he's going to be able to control. this is something that is going to continue and the tweets of his reaction to this seem to be actually causing the investigation to expand, not contract. >> chris: i want to pick up on that, it can be a witch hunt, it can be an effort by his opponents to bring him down, but you can also argue that he's made things worse. james comey kept telling him is
fire comey, now he is under investigation and then there are those tweets. >> i think you're right, the president has every right to fire comey, the problem was one of the conflicting messages from the white house and the electric conversations. i think calling this a witch hunt is a smart political strategy because if you can look at the sense of this from -- back in march announcing the fact that they were looking into trump associates and the russians in regard to russia. meanwhile, behind the scenes telling him that he himself is not under investigation while everyone else is calling for impeachment from him. then you of the former fbi director leaking memos. when he took instruction from loretta lynch to call it a matter, now he's allegedly being looked at for obstruction of justice d
senator looked out. i think calling this a witch hunt is a smart political strategy looking at all those things. >> chris: and up about all of this, i will talk about one of the real subjects affecting people's lives, if you all want to hear about it. i want to turn to president trump announcing this week that he was partially rolling back president obama's opening of diplomatic and economic ties to cuba. curious. >> president trump: america has rejected the cuban people's oppressors, they have rejected, officially today, they are rejected. >> chris: how significant is the president's decision -- the u.s. embassy will stay open, he was airlines, cruise ships will still be able to serve the island. >> he dialed back part of the outreach to cuba. a signal to theub
elsewhere. there's not going to be any real detente between the u.s. and havana between washington and havana, but he called it a complete rollback, reversal. it wasn't a reversal. >> chris: we ask you for questions for the panel and we got this on facebook from pamela murray, who writes what benefit did we gain by changing the policies in the first place, juan, how do you answer pamela and specifically, the question of after president obama in 2014 had this opening, this effort to reach out to the castro regime, did they really release -- ease up on the oppression, political oppression. >> the short answer is no. i was somewhat conflicted, i was a critic of the obama's decision because to me my family had experiences in latin america with
dictators, it's not healthy, it leads to political prisoners. you have 50 plus years of failed u.s. policy with regard to cuba that has not led to the release of political prisoners, increase human rights or even freedoms in cuba. the idea that you would have, a specific answer to pamela, an infusion of americans with american values, american capitalism and american democracy coming into cuba, challenging the way of life, giving people new reason for hope, to me, that's a significant change in one of the realities -- >> chris: you agree that in the two and a half years it was in place, it didn't actually change? >> there was change it if you care about the cuban people, or prisoners released, depressed freedoms increase? know, but this is a slow and steady process and there was no change in the previous
>> one theory holds that if you open, sharp as we have done with china, eventually that will have a democracy effect. results in china i think are mixed at best of whether that's effective. it's always worth a try, it cuba a somewhat different case because i haven't 1920s the economy there and the only indication is at least on the political repression, it has not ended, i think it remains to be seen whether it will have the effect we hope it will have come up that's a long-running debate and there is no certain answer as to whether that works or not. >> chris: in the white house, how do the trump officials, advisors, reconciled his
and defense of human rights in cuba with a few weeks back when he was in the middle east, his silence on the issue when he was in saudi arabia. >> it's a pretty strong contrast on that trip in saudi arabia. this is a country that other u.s. presidents have dealt with despite their pretty grim human rights record, it's not as though trump is the first person to do it, but he completely ignored the human rights violations when he was on that trip yet we hear them talk about cuba saying that this is a human rights issue. you can look at this two ways, you could say this is cynical and it's just an attempt to try and rollback something that obama did or you could look at people like marco rubio at some of these other lawmakers who truly do believe that this is a human rights issue and putting a lot of pressure on the white house to take a step. >> cuba is an american adversary for sure, it has been for sure, saudi arabia is an ally. >> cuba is our neighbor and they have posed a direct threat to us. it's time for a change. younger generation in florida acumen, they are for obama's plan. if the older generation that i think is still entrenched in the hatred and anger.
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>> chris: now for a father's day story you will never forget. here's our "power player of the week" ." >> mr. scheer: is the only thing you should be using your contrast for us to take trash out and if you take a trash bag and give it to a child, what are we telling them? >> chris: rob scheer is talking about the 400,000 foster children in this country, who often are sent from home to home carrying all their belongings in a trash bag. >> mr. scheer: we are telling them they are worth no more than trash. >> chris: scheer, who spent eight years in foster care, wanted to send a different message. so in 2013 he started something called comfort cases. >> mr. scheer: we wanted to make sure they had more than a trash bag so we give them a case with a brand-new pair of pajamas, a toothbrush, a bar of soap, a blanket ana
>> what difference could that make you like >> mr. scheer: it makes a huge difference. >> chris: to understand, listen to his story. when he turned 18 and the government checks ran out, has foster father put him on the street. he ended up working in the tackle restaurant while he went to school. >> mr. scheer: the owner knew i was homeless so he would leave the outside bathroom door unlocked so for me to sleep in at night. >> chris: so you graduated from high school -- >> mr. scheer: graduated from high school homeless. >> chris: he went into the mortgage business and married reece ended 2009 they decided to adopt from foster care. >> mr. scheer: we were told that the little boy would probably never speak and if he did walk he would walk with braces on his legs. he had severe alcohol fetal syndrome. >> chris: three months later they took in another pair of siblings, greyson and kristin. it was while raising his new family that he made a discovery.
we to a child deserves to own something that's brand-new that belongs to them. >> there are checklists that you will grab. >> chris: so they started comfort cases, organizing. the first year they put together a couple of hundred duffel bags and backpacks. by last year 25,000 to six states and d.c. >> chris: she is now 13. >> mr. scheer: she's amazing, she loves the charity. my son greyson, who was ten, i always call him my spokesperson. >> chris: 's but that's not where the story ends. recent read that being around animals could help someone with her condition. >> mr. scheer: three years ago we bought a farm with goats and chickens and we were barely getting by and now three years later she gets on the school bus every single day and turns around and waves goodbye. every
for the first time last year said i love you daddy. >> chris: he cites shocking numbers, three quarters of the people sent to prison have some length of foster care. if more than 70% of foster children will become homeless. his goal -- >> mr. scheer: that every single child in foster care no longer carries a trash bag. that we as a community realize that over 400,000 children deserve the same thing that we give each of our children, and that's a glove, letting them know that they are wanted. >> chris: i told you it was special. comfort cases raise $100,000 last year and no one took a penny of salary. if you want to learn more, go to our website "fox news sunday".com. and that's for today. for all you kids out there, especially mine, call your dad, dear shareholders...
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