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from washington the mclaughlin group, the american original, for over three decades the romn using our energy resources, making trade work for us, getting kids the skills they need for the jobs of today and tomorrow. making sure we balance our budget and helping small business. we do those five things, you are going to see america come roaring back. we are going to do it. >> that was mitt romney's five point plan to create jobs. governor romney says he will create 11.5 million new jobs if he is elected president. but president obama says governor romney's stance on extehelp
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create jobs. >> they have tried to tell us this trickle down tax cut fairy dust before. it didn't rk then. it will not work now. >> on friday the economic numbers for july were released. unemployment rose to 8.3% from 8.2% with 163,000 new jobs added. question, so whose plan will create more jobs? and whose plan is quote unquote fairy dust? pat buchanan? >> 1 john, 163,000 new jobs created, 150,000 people left the labor force and disappeared, 45,000 became unemployed, that is why the unemployment rate has gone up. the size of the labor force is diminishing. barack obama's plan, he said it worked, it is not working. there is no question about it. john, 41, 42 months of 8 plus percent unemployment. he says mitt romney's plan won't work. mitt romney's plan, as i understand it, is very close to a plan 30 years ago of ronald
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reagan which did work, which created something like 20 million new jobs. we don't know if it is going to happen now, but it is a far better bet to bet on him i think than to bet on what has been failing for four years. >> eleanor? >> harken back decades ago, president obama's plan is like bill clinton's plan which gave us 24 million jobs and a surplus and not as long ago as president reagan. and i would point out the private sector created 17 2,000 jobs, the markets reacted quite favorably, i think that the white house probably feels like it dodged a bullet, it looks like we don't have an economy that is going into a full stall. these numbers are pretty good, especially when compared to the previous few months. and what mitt romney just talked about, that's not a plan. those are plat tudes. he tosses out we are going to have better schools, lower regulations, lower taxes, going to increase defense spending and all is going to be the blue
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skies will arrive. he provides no details and all the independent analysts that look at what he has put out so far suggest if he is going to do all this he's got to get money from somewhere. and if he is going to give more to the people in the top 2 to 5% he has to take away resources from the middle class. that is what the campaign battle will be about. rich? >> bill clinton inherited a basic economic consensus from the reagan years and tweaked it around the edges. and the deficit the mean nasty republicans in congress who cut and held the line on spend manage a huge amount to do with that. john this is a hugely important argument now over the economy. mitt romney cannot just go out there and say economic conditions are inadequate, which is clearly true. he has to make the sale that his plan is better. and this is an attempt, finally, to do it. he is talking about the middle class, which is always very
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important for republicans. he is honing it down to five key points, and it is, basically, the reagan approach, proven to have worked in the past. get these burdens off of the private sector to the extent you can. mort? >> one of the first things bill clinton did as president was part of that through raising taxes and i'm totally in favor of that. however he also had an extraordinary understanding of macroeconomics. i was working for him at that time. he was a genius in terms of his understanding. >> romney? > >> no, e's talking about bill clinton. >> this president doesn't know anything about that. it is amazing. i can say that because i have had personal contact with him. the unemployment numbers have gotten worse, now 40 odd weeks in which we had more than 8%. that is not the real number. the real number is if you take
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people only part-time employed involuntarily, by the way, that real number was 15%, four years into a recession under this president. >> what is this personal contact with barack obama? >> i was a supporter of his and quite active in his campaign and indeed in the first few months, almost a year. >> responsible, in other words? >> you visited the white house, you talked to him, have been part of groups visiting the white house? >> that's right. they talked to me a lot about it. none of the programs which i proposed were adopted, don't get me wrong. >> one of the attendee'ss what did they tell you? >> they were mostly business people when i was there. >> are they unimpressed by him? >> at this point i think there is a huge gap between this administration and the business community. there is an old line okay that america used to boo the losers. this administration boos the winners. earlier in the week ro
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roman. >> i believe it is critical to stand by those who have stood by america. solidarity was a great movement that freed a nation. and it's with solidarity that america and poland face the future. >> mitt romney's overseas tour took him to london, israel and this week to poland. in warsaw, he praised poland's free enterprise economy as one for the whole of europe to emulate, citing poland's opposition to the quote unquote false promise of a government dominated economy. >> at a time of widespread economic slow down and stagnation, your economy last year outperformed all the other nations of europe. >> poland's economy expanded 4.3% in 2011, one of the fastest in the 27-member european union. governor romney's poland visit resonates with many u.s.
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voters, namely the 10 million polish americans living in the u.s., most of whom are roman catholic. mr. romney in warsaw evoked the iconic pole john paul ii who visited the u.s. seven times. >> here in poland in 1979 a son of poland, pope john paul ii spoke words that would bring down an empire and bring freedom to millions who lived in bondage. be not afraid. those words changed the world. >> poland is predominantly roman catholic. 90%. here at home, roman catholics constitute 24% of the population. 68 million people. and in presidential elections the candidate, republican or democrat, who gets the catholic vote, wins the election. eg, in 2008, candidate barack president today. the catholic
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>> question. will mitt romney's trip to poland and his trip tribute to pope john paul ii help him win u.s. catholic votes. patted buick? >> it will john but there has been a change since we took the northern catholiceth knicks and the coalition carried 49 states. now a significant slice of the american catholic community is hispanic if it within for hispanics we'd be down to about 18% of the population. it will help him here in michigan, western pennsylvania all parts of pennsylvania, in ohio those swing states. mainly though, it is the irish catholics, italian catholics, polish catholics, german catholics, they were a shrink and go dying share of the catholic population. but this will help mitt significantly. his polish part of the trip was really the best part. it was a tremendous.
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>> will he swing over any latino voters? >> i don't know it goes with. >> he is going to lose latino vote somewhere between 60 and 70%. >> what is the role of the catholic voter in this election? >> first of all it is going to do all pat said it is going to do, if it is, mitt ought to make weekly trips back. >> what's wrong with that? >> nothing, maybe it is a good idea. >> are you knocking the catholic vote? >> the president has about a ten point edge over romney with u.s. catholics. and to the extent there is a catholic vote, it is a cafeteria catholic vote. and i think if romney was counting on the controversy over contraception to open up a wedge issue for him to win votes, i think being woman trumps being a catholic, frankly. i mean i think this is, this is such a minor event. >> really? >> that it is barely worth registering. >> really? what do you think? >> i hate to say it will help at the margins with polish
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americans, but you have the biggest population is in new york and illinois, states that aren't available to romney. pat mentioned some of the states that are swing states. >> yes. >> but this is very much at the margins. it was a fantastic speech. it was a great leg of his trip and the entire trip was devoted to the notion that these alliances are based not just on shared interest but on shared values. >> what do you think on romney's technique in bringing up the catholic pope? well obviously catholic pope,. >> it would have been if he had run across one that wasn't. >> isn't that something? this was for romney sort of his first foreign policy travel as the nominee. and i think his visit to poland in particular was the best part of it all and i think it helped him. it helped him with the catholics, with the polish people but it is not decisive. i think it helped him marginally, i agree with eleanor, but it was a good step
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for him. i might add the polish community is really not too happy with obama anyhow on two grounds. one is obama referred to the camps as the polish death camps, where they were in fact the naughtssy death camps in occupied poland and secondly he canceled or transformed the antimissile defense system promised to poland and argued this was for economic reasons and the polish people are upset about that. i have been to church and had them from the pulpit saying they are attacking the church and our right to form our institutions in our own way. and a lot of them, they are much more military tan to catholics than they were in any election i can remember. >> working very hard. >> i would argue the vice president candidate chosen by barack obama or chosen by mitt romney. >> i don't know there is any prominent, someone who would do really well among the catholic.
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>> what about polish extraction. >> plenty is an ex cal catholic who became advantage gelical. >> -- evangelical. >> my pointing that out was questioned by you and somebody else. >> this is not my field, john. >> polish evangelical. when we come back, cruzing to win.
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wow. we did it. meet u.s. senate candidate ted cruz, texas republican. not just any kind of republican, but a tea party with a capital t, republican. in a run off election in the gop senate primary this week cruz beat the so-called establishment candidate, incompany ben lieutenant governor david dewhurst, 57-43%. dewhurst isn't exactly a martyr. he was endorsed by texas governor rick perry. ted cruz has friends of his own notely former governor and former vice president candidate sarah palin.
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>> i top lawyer for the state for five years, 2003-2008. he has argued nine cases before the under the circumstances supreme court and once clerked for chief justice william rehnquist. currently cruz is a top partner at a law firm lewis morgan. cruz has never been elected to public office at age 41. how does he explain his win over david dewhurst the incumbent lieutenant governor a wealthy businessman who spent $19 million of his own money on there race? >> look, everyone who has a vested interest in the status quo, in business as usual in spending and spending and spending wants to stop anyone who wants to stop that gravy train. but i think the american people are looking for leaders that
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aren't going to washington, to suddenly be popular at the cocktail parties. they are looking for leaders to go to washington and to be public servants. >> this november, paul sadler, being vacated by the outgoing o republican senator kay bailey hutchison. question. what does ted cruz's victory say about the tea party movement and its influence on the republican party? rich lowry? >> john it says the most important and powerful force in the republican party right now is the tea party combined with a genuinely impressive candidate. we had the tea party victory in the indictment indict senate race awhile ago but that was almost entirely lay a rejection of the incumbent rather than an endorsement of the challenger. this was all about ted cruz. he had no elect electoral
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experience when he began, running against the establishment with tons of money to spend and ted cruz overcame that because of the tea party and because of his ability to articulate and stand for his ideals. >> he is practicing law. >> john this is a. >> solicitor general. >> he is a brilliant guy. >> what law firm did he work with? >> morgan lewis. >> morgan lewis, a major firm. >> ivy? >> john this is a first round draft pick. >> was he a member of that firm? >> they are principally out of philadelphia. >> the he argued the case before the supreme court that overturned the gun laws in the district of columbia. he's got an impressive resume and what i would hope is that he represents maybe a maturing of the tea party movement that if he gets elected, which he most probably will, that he will
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come to washington and not just want to be a bomb thrower, that he will work to be a legitimate legislator. i mean the guy is brilliant, he's got a terrific resume, a nice presentation, he is low key and he is graceful. it is the whole package. but is he going to be so right wing that he will be discredited in washington? >> no. >> are you softening on the tea party? >> i'm hoping that he can turn the tea party into something more. >> you sound so knowledgeable. >> i hope it is. >> he's got the whole package john, i mean we have got a fighting pop husband from harvard yard. it is tough to beat that. here is someone i really think given his credentials, i disagree with eleanor. he should take the leadership really of the conservative populous wing of the reap party because he has the establishment credentials this guy could really go places depending on how he handled himself. but if he came up here and sells
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out basically to the establishment in dc, be the worst thing he could do. don't listen to eleanor. >> you think he has the fire in the belly? >> look where he came from. nowhere. >> you think he has the fire in the belly pat? >> he has a pleasant personality which is not a bad thing john, unlike you and me. >> he represents the political force of latinos and hispanics. >> does he have it all? >> fighting in many ways. >> this is the kind of political talent you don't have very often in american politics. he came out of nowhere in one sense and he has demonstrated the ability to beat, as pat was saying before, the logical candidate in political terms. >> we are giving him his marching orders. bill back in the act. bill clinton that is, former president served two years, 1993 to 2000. now get this. bill has been tapped by barack
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obama to nominate barack obama at the democratic national convention four and a half weeks from now in charlotte, north carolina. president clinton delivers the prime time address september 5, one night before president obama himself takes the stage to accept his party nomination for a second presidential term. now the nominate ago dress at party conventions is a role usually reserved for the vice president. instead, this year, vapor joe biden will speak the same night as president obama. immediately preceding the obama acceptance speech. so why bill clinton at all? answer. because bill clinton is popular. 66%, a consensus of americans, think highly of bill clinton. democrats apparently believe that clinton's nomination of obama will remind them of what they enjoyed during clinton's presidency.
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relative peace and prosperity. clinton also has a special rapport with white, moderate blue collar voters a demographic that clinton, himself, hails from and one that mr. s, what shall we say, underemphasized? >> let me get this straight now. obama is going to ride on clinton's coattails into a second term? >> he is running on the clinton economic approach. >> no he is not. >> and people have fond memories of progressive taxation during that period, which gave us a surplus and 24 million jobs. at the white house they consider bill clinton a force multiplier. he underscores the difference between the romney approach and the obama clinton approach on the economy. >> mort, you are in pain. what are you in pain about? >> as they say, i worked with bill clinton for the better part
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of three years he knows and does understand the macroeconomy and the economy that this administration doesn't even come close to. he never would have gone ahead with the programs in my judgment this administration did at the time he did it. do i think this is going to sort of rub off on obama? a little bit. it is not going to be decisive. >> what kind of treatment is it of joe biden? the treatment is they are going to do whatever they think is going to help him win. if that is what they think will help him win, which i'm sure they do, that is what they are going to do. >> clinton wants to extend the bush tax cuts, clinton is perceived as a centerrist moderate, he is a guy that plain can inspire the people obama can't get. >> it will be a misleading, and highly effective speech. we'll be right back
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with this blazing chick-fil-a controversy putting homosexual marriage for the first time into its platform homosexual marriage will be the cultural issue of the fall. >> we call it same sex marriage pat. five for five she will be a fourth at the republican convention when she does it from the floor or the parking lot. >> reich? despite the heartening
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support for chick-fil-a we have seen hundreds of thousands of people flocking to the restaurants, private sector and government bullying of opponents of gay marriage is the wave of the future. mort? >> the inability of young people to get jobs has produced the lowest birth rate in 25 years and this will continue. the obama administration pumped millions of taxpayer dollars into solyndra i predict this will become damaging to the barack obama's reelection. bye bye.
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