Desertam Indefensamque? There has been much private debate in recent months among some Adepts of the esoteric tradition developed by the pseudonymous Anton Long, and known among those Adepts by the appellation Order of Nine Angles, as to whether or not and in public that tradition should be abandoned and undefended by them given their own pathei-mathos and the torrent of accusations levelled since 2018 against what others have described as a group or organization named "the order of nine angles" or "O9A".