would follow. >> if you could flood the american welfare system with risipients you could break the bank. >> stanly is a senior fellow . he has done extensive research on the acorn. >> that would force the federal government to have a guaranteed minimum income. it was a strategy to provoke socialism through a crisis of the welfare state system. they used to flood welfare offices with recipients that demand more welfare payments. >> the record in the entire field of welfare and human relation size one of colassal and complete failure. >> then governor ronald reagan of california felt that the welfare rights organizers were destroying the lives they claimed to be helping. >> they have tried to raise people by mass movements and big government approach has institutional poverty and until welfare becomes a way of life in the second or third generation of families. >> democratic bill clinton embraced reagan's view and ended welfare as we know it >> by 1970 he claim to see why it was a sinking ship and break the bank stratentliy was simply not work neither was wily's narrow focus on only

change would follow. >> i think there was a theory if i could just flood the american welfare system with welfare recipients, you could break the bank, so to speak. >> stanny kerts is a senior fellow at the ethics center and has done extensive research on the national welfare organization and on acorn. >> that would stories the federal government to create a guaranteed minimum income. so it really was a strategy to provoke socialism through a kind of crisis of the welfare state system. they used to flood welfare offices with recipients who would protest and demand more welfare payments. >> their record in the entire field of welfare in their entire field of human relations is one of colossal and almost complete failure. >> then governor ronald reagan of california felt that the welfare rights organizers were destroying the very lives they claimed to be helping. >> they have tried this raising of people by mass movements. their whole big government approach has institutionalized poverty, perpetuating its degradation until welfare becomes a way of life under the second and third genera

change would follow. >> i think there was a theory if i could just flood the american welfare system with welfare recipients, you could break the bank, so to speak. >> stanny kerts is a senior fellow at the ethics center and has done extensive research on the national welfare organization and on acorn. >> that would stories the federal government to create a guaranteed minimum income. so it really was a strategy to provoke socialism through a kind of crisis of the welfare state system. they used to flood welfare offices with recipients who would protest and demand more welfare payments. >> their record in the entire field of welfare in their entire field of human relations is one of colossal and almost complete failure. >> then governor ronald reagan of california felt that the welfare rights organizers were destroying the very lives they claimed to be helping. >> they have tried this raising of people by mass movements. their whole big government approach has institutionalized poverty, perpetuating its degradation until welfare becomes a way of life under the second and third genera

change would follow. >> i think there was a theory if i could just flood the american welfare system with welfare recipients, you could break the bank, so to speak. >> stanny kerts is a senior fellow at the ethics center and has done extensive research on the national welfare organization and on acorn. >> that would stories the federal government to create a guaranteed minimum income. so it really was a strategy to provoke socialism through a kind of crisis of the welfare state system. they used to flood welfare offices with recipients who would protest and demand more welfare payments. >> their record in the entire field of welfare in their entire field of human relations is one of colossal and almost complete failure. >> then governor ronald reagan of california felt that the welfare rights organizers were destroying the very lives they claimed to be helping. >> they have tried this raising of people by mass movements. their whole big government approach has institutionalized poverty, perpetuating its degradation until welfare becomes a way of life under the second and third genera

change would follow. >> i think there was a theory if i could just flood the american welfare system with welfare recipients, you could break the bank, so to speak. >> stanny kerts is a senior fellow at the ethics center and has done extensive research on the national welfare organization and on acorn. >> that would stories the federal government to create a guaranteed minimum income. so it really was a strategy to provoke socialism through a kind of crisis of the welfare state system. they used to flood welfare offices with recipients who would protest and demand more welfare payments. >> their record in the entire field of welfare in their entire field of human relations is one of colossal and almost complete failure. >> then governor ronald reagan of california felt that the welfare rights organizers were destroying the very lives they claimed to be helping. >> they have tried this raising of people by mass movements. their whole big government approach has institutionalized poverty, perpetuating its degradation until welfare becomes a way of life under the second and third genera

change would follow. >> i think there was a theory if i could just flood the american welfare system with welfare recipients, you could break the bank, so to speak. >> stanny kerts is a senior fellow at the ethics center and has done extensive research on the national welfare organization and on acorn. >> that would stories the federal government to create a guaranteed minimum income. so it really was a strategy to provoke socialism through a kind of crisis of the welfare state system. they used to flood welfare offices with recipients who would protest and demand more welfare payments. >> their record in the entire field of welfare in their entire field of human relations is one of colossal and almost complete failure. >> then governor ronald reagan of california felt that the welfare rights organizers were destroying the very lives they claimed to be helping. >> they have tried this raising of people by mass movements. their whole big government approach has institutionalized poverty, perpetuating its degradation until welfare becomes a way of life under the second and third genera

in health care, and a political system interested in playing finger-pointing as we watch economic powers around the world, whether it's brazil or china or india that may not be anywhere near this country yet, and they are coming. and we are doing everything in our power, it would appear, to try and basically turn ourselves into a bunch of corporate communists that have no choice or competition. this is for karen, and she is used to it from me. >> yeah, i used to do sports in college, and we lost, and it's done. move on, not a big decision. >> my point is it's a bigger conversation. >> i do think the reaction that we saw with, you know, rush limbaugh and the others, i think that speaks to something that tom friedman talked about last week, and we talked about the thug politics of, you know, rush limbaugh is the same guy that said he was rooting for obama to fail. when you are rooting for the president to failure rooting for the country to fail. that's not a good place to be. i agree we have to wake up and know that there are other countries that are moving forward whether we like it or no

>> the issue is essentially, economic activity, the reason i say that, if there's a silver lining in that particular report, and it's difficult to find one, it's that american business, after lehman brothers collapsed and the whole financial system imploded, business expected that the economy would go down far more sharply than it in fact did, they laid off a very substantial number of people to the point that the actual hours worked fell even more than the economy. so, that what we're getting is artificial numbers which give us productivity gains of horrendous amounts. it has been going down and down and that can't continue. so that silver lining is, at some point, we're going to start to see an improvement in employment. but remember that, unless there's a monthly increase of more than 100,000 a month, you still got the unemployment rate -- >> that's administration projections show more than 8% unemployment through 2011. the president's going to look at new ideas to spur job creation. what would advise him to do? >> i think the focus has to be on trying to get the economy going. yo

one of civilization early economic systems seems to be make ago comeback and maybe the dollar's decline, ezra. >> i hope not. you know somebody will trade for you a blog post, dylan? >> what? >> nothing at all. >> that's a great barter. this next headline. sad and alarming like music. the recession not only affects the living but the dead now. from michigan to alabama some cities are too poor to lay the dead to rest. local budgets for buried unclaimed bodies getting cut and more cash-strached families are leaving their loved ones at the morgue in the hands of the state. recently the state of illinois had to put 12. million back into its budget to handle burials for what was a growing crisis. anne? >> you know, in a time when people are delaying medical care and other luxuries, i guess no surprise it was coming to this. since we're coming up on halloween i guess it's kind of appropriately ghoulish. >> indeed, it is. to end on a high note. there are also unseen heroes in this recession. people sacrificing to take care of each other and ed pierce is among that group. a landlord who planned