. >> shepard: geraldo segment tonight, killer whale drowned a 40-year-old trainer in orlando, florida will remain an attraction at the park despite killing three human beings. >> this is a -- really a, a wonderful animal, and him -- his participation in our shows, his engagement in our interactions and so forth is very important to his overrule health and husband dry. he will remain an active contributing member of the team. >> bill: with us now fox news anchor geraldo rivera. i'm not going to see that. >> that man is on drugs. i can't believe what i just heard. >> bill: this is my problem with the thing. i don't want the orca destroyed. i think they should just let it go and put it out in the ocean. drop it in there. but i'm not going to pay money to see an animal that's killed three human beings. that makes me queazy. in 1991, in sea land of the pacific in british victoria this same whale killed assistant trainer it was then a deal to release the animal back into the wild of the waters off iceland. the deal fell apart because sea land closed because of the absolute repulings, revuls

. >> shepard: here's what political said. by the lunch break, it was agreeing clearer the presummit pessimism on both sides of the aisle, there was little or no hope of grand partisan compromise was on target n fact both sides spent of the bulk of three hours trying to score points, rarely veering from scripts and extending a hand to the other side. >> i don't know if the people see this as bipartisan. it's just a bunch of politicians getting talking points in. >> the only way it's bipartisan and meaningful and constructive is if they took the previous talking points and bill and set it aside. >> shepard: why do republicans want to throw it out and start over? why? nobody buys that. everybody sees that as here's how we win. our side wins if we get you to throw your thing outs. the majority says we win if we get you to come with us. seems silly to talk about it. >> well it's not just republicans, it's -- >> i said both sides. >> i know you said both sides, i want to say, too, the american people clearly have rejected this bill

shock as well. >> shepard: who wouldn't be. sherry stegall, waiting for her daughter outside the school when this happened. thanks for taking with us. >> thank you. >>> more details this afternoon on the violent past of amy bishop. remember her? she's the suspect in that university of alabama huntsville campus shooting. bishop and her husband were suspects in a 1993 case in which a harvard professor found two pipe bombs in the mail. they did not detonate and nobody charged but a government report indicates a witness heard witch bishop's husband say he wanted to get back at them. ander stated he wanted to get back at the victim, because the victim, dr. rosenberg, and he wanted to shoot him, bomb him, stab him or strangle rosenberg. amy bishop faces capital murder charges. her husband says it's because of a long difficult path to getting tenure at the university of alabama, huntsville. >> a deadly discovery in pakistan. word the bodies of two believed to be american spyrus found in a taliban stronghold. this raising brand-new iss

so -- >> shepard: what do you mean? i would say probably not. you know, in terms of it being customary, you have to look at not just that day but the week. ray put these people through intense exercises and trainings and they were most likely not in a real clear state of mind when they were going in. >> shepard: i've heard doctors say from their evaluation of what went down, the people could have been physically exhausted and emotionally spent and there was a sense -- correct me if i'm wrong, but there was a sense they had been manipulated. according to the observers, manipulated mentally. >> yeah, i can't speak to the exactly what that all means, but i think there is revenue that says -- research that says if people believe in something somebody is preaching, no matter how strong and independent they are, if that resonates and a leader understand powers of manipulation and coercion, that is a dangerous thing. couple that with some parts of the mainstream media legitimatizing that person. >> that's a concern, i'm not saying among your family but

people like shepard smith, people -- all of our white house people they report fairly. >> here is the brilliance of fox news. what you have been able to do, you and dr. ailes, have been able to mainstream conservative talk radio. >> bill: why wouldn't john mccain come on this program during the last campaign? why didn't he dodge us and not come on if you -- we are in business to help the g.o.p., he wouldn't come. >> in you are not in the business of john mccain. he is not g.o.p. enough for you. you are in the business of sarah palin. >> bill: dick cheney is to you mr. republican. wouldn't come on the program, stewart? >> not mr. republican. because dick cheney, again, this atmosphere, there is a lot of light which is he obviously allergic to. >> bill: stop. come on. i gave to you with examples that you can't refute with your propaganda outlook. >> that doesn't mean anything. let me explain what i mean. >> bill: two examples john mccain and dick cheney g.o.p. neither man would come in here because the questioning is too tough. don't give me i'm a republican shrill, that's bull. >> you