you go with limited aims and you go with a limited time period in moving to get to enter afghanistan in two thousand. two with no clear mission statement with no clear limitations upon when their lives were going to withdraw or indeed what their aim was is very very difficult particularly for a former military man to understand can anything good command for anything of a achieved anything positive that i think i think there was plenty of positive things that are being that are being achieved that first and foremost is we've got to stop talking about afghanistan as if it is as if it is the kernel of the problem it's not it's a regional war and it stretches from the borders of iran to the borders of russia and encompasses the nuclear armed country of pakistan the presence of our troops in afghanistan or should i say more properly on the afghanistan pakistan border is as much about maintaining the relative stability of pakistan and the relative stability of pakistan's nuclear arsenal as it is about reestablishing afghanistan as a relatively civilized country what's the best possible out

has to actually destroy pakistan to win in afghanistan. well i don't think i mean that superficially looks like that but no not just to not only destroy it maybe even invaded it one point ok because regime change seems to be a popular flavor of this year go ahead i don't think that there is all that or that they should view that although i blame the way i said i we did it for exact even used a word for exaggeration exaggeration for a conversation think general you go ahead are you saying is i'm going to exaggeration or misrepresented misrepresentation i should go right ahead. right i don't think that you know u.s. can despite what it wants despite the divergence i don't think that that should be on the cards that ought to be in the cards or it is on the cards it would be far too risky a strategy for you know for the u.s. to you know try to come in or tried to do you know another may second kind of an operation unto it has actionable intelligence with a mate second we have to be very clear that they had actually actual intelligence now if t

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washington's announcement of a protracted stay in afghanistan came as little surprise to brian becker of the pro peace and search coalition he says there's no way the u.s. would bad in a region that's so strategically important if the u.s. military were to leave afghanistan altogether or if it were to leave iraq altogether those governments would become independent self determining governments free of foreign interference or foreign occupation that's what would happen they would form their own natural alliances with their neighbors the united states does not want that this is the great prize this is a geo strategic between resource rich part of the world united states is there for the long term and i think that's the real goal is to put firmly afghanistan and the surrounding countries into an american spirit i think the karzai government really is an extension of american power which has a masquerade the fiction of a nato cover but really it's an american power cards i of course probably cannot survive without outside support after all the outsiders the occupiers put him into power i

if the united states is drawing its troops from afghanistan why is its largest base getting bigger the u.s. led forces over in the taliban of late two thousand and one bug amir field was little more than a flight to correct runway since then the former soviet base in the plains north of the afghan capital has grown into a small city itself over twenty five thousand full time personnel fleets of military cargo aircraft and enough vehicles to cause traffic jams that expansion is no way aided by scores of contractors u.s. military engineers are constructing new housing and storage facilities to make room for even more bidding war where after sending an extra thirty thousand troops to afghanistan last year president obama started bringing them home this summer but with afghan forces struggling to stand alone it's likely that less will even planned and bases like this one aren't going to shrink anytime soon. at least there are plenty of home comforts for soldiers staying on for tell a few more deployments they can shop for everything from flat screen t.v.'s to fine jewelry enjoy a cappuccin

rocket fire just proof that the war is still going on in afghanistan and u.s. troop levels there are expected to decrease significantly in the coming months related expenses to be there afghanistan nearly three hundred forty billion dollars that's almost the billion every month. now here's what really kills me about all of this so usually the war is ignored by the mainstream media entirely don't forget that last year they only devoted four percent of our coverage overall to it but even when they do decide to cover it it's painfully shallow if not entirely misleading because don't forget when they send reporters in they're always embedded they're being led around by military officials and getting what amounts to a propaganda tour let's also think of what this war in afghanistan represents the beginning of our global war on terror the beginning of a retaliation for nine eleven which is in the last ten years driven our policies and our values become shadows of what they once were you know we had another war launched in iraq based on lies we had cia black sites pri

war in afghanistan. as one former commander warns, we're still a long way off from winning. captioning funded by cbs >>> this is the "cbs morning news" for friday, october 7th, 2011. good morning, everybody. thanks for joining us. i'm betty nguyen. >>> we begin with the u.s. economy. this morning, the labor department releases its employment report for last month and the news is not expected to be good. economists predict that about 60,000 jobs were added in september, not enough to lower the employment rate which is expected to remain at 9.1%. unemployment has topped 8% for the past 31 months, the longest stretch on record. susan mcginnis is in washington with more on this. good morning, susan. >> hi, good morning, betty. >> reporter: this will probably be the fifth month in a row for very sluggish job growth. remember, the economy needs to add more than a hundred thousand jobs a month just to keep up with population growth, so 60,000 or so jobs is going to put a lot of pressure on congress to take acti

another day in afghanistan's southern battlefront and more casualties despite official claims that the war is being won two thousand and eleven is lining up to be the deadliest yet for u.s. forces fighting to tame the decade long taliban insurgency but things to improve medical capabilities casualties who would have perished in previous conflicts are surviving by these two soldiers one patrol in a vehicle when a roadside bomb exploded beneath him it took less than half an hour for a medical crew to pick them up by helicopter and deliver them to the trauma ward at kandahar airfield one of the country's busiest for their injuries are bad but not extreme meaning we will most likely stay on base until they've recovered more severe cases such as if you teams are flown to germany for treatment all right you guys can go on this missile it was built to save critically injured american troops fresh from the front lines but doctors here also treat afghan civilians caught in the war's crossfire with nowhere else to go for help nine year old wally was shot in the head by a stray bullet earlier thi

led invasion of afghanistan passes the ten year mark of the taliban defeat nowhere in sight and human cost is rising faster than ever. meanwhile in the u.k. enough is enough say protesters calling for a speedy troop withdrawal i gather in london to mark the afghan wars tenth anniversary. and then to corporate sentiment spreads fast across the u.s. the occupy wall street movement is criticized for lacking organization but says it's far from chaotic and is in for the long haul. welcome this is our team from moscow it's eleven pm saturday evening here my name is kevin i don't know top story for you the u.s. led war in afghanistan is now past the ten year mark it's been widely dubbed the decade of failure to with nato troops no closer to victory over the taliban and human cost though keeps rising both among the soldiers and the afghan civilians and demanded an end to the aimless war and the violence he brings down on them jason not lag for r.t. reports. another day in afghanistan so the battle more casualties despite official claims that the war's being won two thousand and eleven is lini

have learned particular from the british experience in the past that if you go into afghanistan you go with limited aims and you go with a limited time period in mind to get to enter afghanistan in two thousand. two with no clear mission statement with no clear limitations upon when the allies were going to withdraw or indeed what their aim was is very very difficult particularly for a former military man to understand can anything good come and think if they do anything positive i think i think there is plenty of positive things that are being the being achieved that first and foremost is we've got to stop talking about afghanistan and those if it is as if it is the kernel of the problem it's not it's a regional war and it stretches from the borders of iran to the borders of russia and encompasses the nuclear armed country of pakistan the presence of our troops in afghanistan or should i say more properly on the afghanistan pakistan border is as much about maintaining the relative stability of pakistan and the relative stability of pakistan's nuclear arsenal as it is about reestabl

it's very different in afghanistan. >> it's very different. here in afghanistan, it's a combination of counterterrorism and counterinsurgency and counterinsurgency securing the population, helping them out with jobs, takes a lot of troops and a lot of time and we have already been here for a decade. ten years of war, ten years of watching. always brings you back to this troubled border. >> you see border post three. pakistan is right over -- right down the valley. >> reporter: the brigadier general is one of long line of commanders who have tried to stop the flow of enemy fighters from pakistan who managed to traverse this impossibly steep terrain every day. >> there's a wide range of insurgents that are operating. the taliban -- >> reporter: nearly a decade ago, i walked this same border. the pakistani border is just about three miles from here the problems they have encountered is that the taliban will run across the border after hiding in pakistan, and then run back after attacking the americans. and then ask the same questions about insurg

seventh two thousand and one the war in afghanistan began as a counter strike for nine eleven atrocities masterminded from the country by osama bin laden retired army general stanley mcchrystal said the u.s. began the occupation with a frighteningly simplistic view and still have no idea how to end the conflict successfully meantime in the war zone american bases are still expanding providing it's full time personnel with all the comforts of home jason visited by a grab for r.t. . if the united states is drawing its troops from afghanistan why is its largest base getting bigger with us live forces over at the teleported late two thousand and one bug a mere field is little more than a flight tower in a cracked runway since then the former soviet base in the plains north of the afghan capital has grown into a small city that's helped over twenty five thousand full time personnel fleets of military cargo aircraft with enough equals to cross traffic jams in the expansion is no way aided by scores of contractors u.s. military engineers are constructing new housing and storage facilities to ma

you go with limited aims and you go with a limited time period in mind to get to enter afghanistan in two thousand. two with no clear mission statement with no clear limitations upon when the allies were going to withdraw or indeed what their aim was is very very difficult particularly for a former military man to understand can anything good command of a achieve anything positive that i think i think there is plenty of positive things that are being the being achieved that first and foremost as we got to stop talking about afghanistan as if it is as if it is the kernel of the problem it's not it's a regional war and it stretches from the borders of iran to the borders of russia and encompasses the nuclear armed country of pakistan the presence of our troops in afghanistan or should i say more properly on the afghanistan pakistan border is as much about maintaining the relative stability of pakistan and the relative stability of pakistan's nuclear arsenal as it is about reestablishing afghanistan as a relatively civilized country what's the best possible outcome here they've promised

has to actually destroy pakistan to win in afghanistan. well i don't think i mean that superficially looks like that the guy with no notice to not only destroy it maybe even invaded it one point ok because regime change seems to be a popular flavor of this year go ahead i don't think that those are the rebels that they should do it all hype or live the way i said we did it for exactly even used a word for exaggeration or exaggeration for a conversation think just well yes go ahead i use a good islam because i did exaggeration and misrepresented my misrepresentation i should go right ahead. right i don't think that you know us can despite what it wants despite the divergence i don't think that that should be on the cards that ought to be in the cards or it is on the cards it would be far too risky a strategy for you know for the u.s. to you know try to come in invade or tried to do you know another may second kind of an operation until it has actionable intelligence with the maid secondly we have to be very clear that they had actually acti

reports now from afghanistan. this is the commanding height that dominates this sweeping view was the area of kabul the afghan capital. right behind me of the reason that three weeks ago was under the twenty hour see by the ha going to network let's take a closer look at what went wrong and we have big global war in terror first after al qaeda central radio ploy to the pashtun tribal belt along the afghan pakistani border the state department filed a request with the pakistan for cooperation against osama bin laden grand slam about brazenly ignored the diplomatic request from washington d.c. with the middle finger behind their back the cia could and should have saved the day by activating their formidable human intelligence network in afghanistan to conduct a clone dan stein body snatching mission and to bring osama bin laden to justice they just blew it looking back at operation enduring freedom the question is not what went wrong with this mission the question is what's preventing the w. bush administration to l

really intends to remain in afghanistan forever. i think that it's true it's a war on like any other in the u.s. history it's ten years old now it's the longest war it's also a war that the u.s. is not winning there is no such thing as military victory there but i think the calculation by the by the political administration and white in washington and the military is that they can endure this kind of fighting for a long time to come in their final intention is to incorporate afghanistan and the surrounding countries some of which were the former soviet republics in the south into an american sphere of influence you've said nato is not needed but president karzai said his own government as well as nato failed to provide afghans with security how will they really be able to and if they will they be able to cope without foreign aid. well i think it's very dubious but it's not really a think the karzai government really is an extension of american power which has a masquerade the fiction of a nato cover but really it's an american power

troops from afghanistan. demonstrators say huge sums of taxpayer money being spent on overseas military operations should be used to create jobs at hole. >> it's no good. we say health care parole now. >> the rally took place on thursday, one day before the tenth anniversary of the u.s. invasion of afghanistan. more than 500 people took part in the rally. they were underby many anti-wall street protesters who have been demonstrating in new york. young people are upset about the disparity of wealth and high unemployment in the u.s. the u.s. government spends about $10.4 billion every month on military operations in afghanistan. protesters demanded the government should use these taxpayer funds to create jobs at home. >> corporate sponsored, corporate owned. think about who benefits from this the most. i don't benefit from anybody being in afghanistan. >> stop today. there's no reason to be there. countries around the world have come to have a very negative outlook of the united states because of these wars. >>

the issue in a afghanistan can only be solved by the afghan people. the governments can compare notes. we can support them in their national efforts. we must not suffocate their own national efforts lf afghanistan determine their needs and support them in accordance with their needs. there has not been any lack of international attention on afghanistan in recent years. we are where we are. we believe we have to be a bit more calibrated, encouraging it afghanistan to pursue its national priorities. >> briefly, what is the sentiment among the huge muslim population on this growing afghan war? >> it is a situation where we need to be better than what we actually are at the moment. indonesia is a strong supporter of afghanistan. we wish the country well. we will be with them waging peace in a more comprehensive way. development and capacity building. >> the indonesian foreign minister, thank you so much for joining us. the minister joins us from our studios. forces loyal to the french transitional government in libya have begun their final assault on a ci

how long we've been in afghanistan. seventy years five years i would say twenty eight ten years i think we've been there since september twelfth two thousand and one is that a ten year i'm going to say eleven would you have to have you know i guesstimate of how many troops we have there right now no i don't know maybe two hundred thousand i don't know offhand i don't know i want to say six ballots for the democrats are. going to dance and. i would say more than grover a hundred thousand i'm not even the cheaper gas down a lot and how many men do you think we've lost so far we lost a neighbor boy to the three thousand searching hundred thirteen hundred fourteen more than a thousand i don't know the numbers are high they're high but i have lost count to man the number of it running over it's been way too many and way too many lots lots too many to me with yeah way too many ten years in a lot of lives yes too many lives i think we're just this plan to get out well despite being a little bit hazy our numbers american seem t

afghanistan's neighbor. do you agree that the bigger problem now is really not afghanistan but pakistan, that their intelligence agencies are cooperating with the haqqani network, that al qaeda there, funding the taliban attacks against their neighboring afghanistan? >> well, the statements of people like admiral mullen i think speak for themselves in terms of there is a strong belief in the u.s. military that pakistani intelligence agency is helping the haqqani network. pakistanis will say for their part, sure, we have contacts with the haqqani network as we would with a lot of groups we are interested in trying to control or manipulate so somewhere in there between those two positions is the truth of the matter and of course we've had reports now that the united states is engaging in secret talks with the haqqani network. so it is extra orderly complicated. bottom line, as you know having spent a lot of time there now, is everything that pakistan does is their concern about india. now you've got an afghani

war in afghanistan to reach into its second decade this week and the worldwide chorus calling for the occupation to end is growing louder but a white house official suggested it may be far from over saying cia and special forces could stay indefinitely as part of the global war on terror as jason log reports for our t.v. evidence on the ground shows there is no rush to leave. if the united states is drawing its troops from afghanistan why is its largest base getting bigger the u.s. led forces overran the taliban of late two thousand and one bug a mere field is little more than a flight to correct runway since then the former soviet base in the plains north of the afghan capital has grown into a small city itself over twenty five thousand full time personnel fleets of military cargo aircraft and enough vehicles to cause traffic jams in the expansion is no way aided by scores of contractors u.s. military engineers are constructing new housing and storage facilities to make room for even more maybe more hard work after sending an extra thirty thousand troops to afghanistan last year pres

top commander in afghanistan says that after ten years of waging a deadly war in the country they still don't know how to bring the conflict to an end. to wall street to washington and beyond the planking back to large spreads some of us against tax dollars being used to bolster big business. and russian prosecutors prepared to bring new charges for the murder of journalist anna politkovskaya she said here in moscow exactly five years ago. welcome it's eight pm here in moscow i'm kevin though in bringing you the top story from aarti tonight and the decade ago one october the seventh two thousand and one the war in afghanistan began as a counter strike for nine eleven atrocities masterminded from the country by a summer been. retired army general stanley mcchrystal said the u.s. began the occupation with a frighteningly simplistic view and still have no idea how to end the conflict successfully in time in the war zone american bases and expanding providing its full time personnel with all the comforts of home just not like visited by a grab for arty. if the united states is drawing its t

you go with limited aims and you go with a limited time period in mind to get to enter afghanistan in two thousand. two with no clear mission statement with no clear limitations upon when their lives were going to withdraw or indeed what their aim was is very very difficult particularly for a former military man to understand can anything good command for the thinking of a achieved anything positive that i think i think there is plenty of positive things that are being the being achieved that first and foremost is we've got to stop talking about afghanistan as if it is as if it is the kernel of the problem it's not it's a regional war and it stretches from the borders of iran to the borders of russia and encompasses the nuclear armed country of pakistan that the presence of our troops in afghanistan or should i say more properly on the afghanistan pakistan border is as much about maintaining the relative stability of pakistan and the relative stability of pakistan's nuclear arsenal as it is about reestablishing afghanistan as a relatively civilized country what's the best possible out

ambassador to afghanistan from 2003 to 2005. i spoke to him from par is and asked him where the major focus should be 10 years after the start of the afghan war. >> i think the focus has to be on two things -- one, getting a regional settlement, particularly between afghanistan and pakistan, because as long as there's a sanctuary for the forces that are fighting the government and the coalition in afghanistan coming out of pakistan, this is going to remain difficult. so getting an agreement that settles some of the issues that causes the pakistanis to support the opposition, the insurgents, is extremely important. and second, increasing the capacity of the afghan government to deliver in terms of rule of law, in terms of justice and dealing with corruption, that, too, is extremely important. >> how important is the relationship between the u.s. and pakistan in achieving this regional stability that you're talking about? >> this is such a big issue, because the whole region is dysfunctional. we need a big effort led by the u.s.,

ambassador to afghanistan. i spoke to him from paris and asked him where the major focus should be done in years after the start of the war. >> the focus has to be on two things. one, getting a regional settlement, particularly between afghanistan and pakistan. as long as there -- if there is a century for those forces coming out of pakistan, this will remain difficult. -- as long as there is a sanctuary for forces coming out of pakistan. increasing the capacity of the afghan government to deliver in terms of rule of law, in terms of justice, and dealing with corruption, that is extremely important. >> how important is the relationship between the u.s. and pakistan in achieving this regional stability you are talking about? >> this is such a big issue. we need a big effort led by the u.s., multilateral, big diplomacy. very high level, intense, to get a deal. these are legitimate concerns in exchange for the assistance of the opposition. if they refuse to do so, then there would have to be a concerted effort to

afghanistan ten years later. more shooting more bloodshed and not an end in sight the guys there are in afghanistan fighting hard to help us the coalition forces were ten years old when this war started the expense of the war in afghanistan is staggering it cost the lives of nearly seventeen hundred u.s. soldiers an estimated thirty four thousand afghan troops and civilian dad and nearly half a trillion dollars poured into war and today anti-war activists say enough is enough it's being. carried out on the backs of the poor and on the working class. thousands gather at freedom plaza in washington d.c. demanding an end to the wars we want the war to stop now and one way is to stop the funding of the war in iraq and afghanistan and we hope that's what the people will really put the pressure on our leaders to do. the protests sparked this week marked both the ten year anniversary of the war in afghanistan and the first week of the new federal budget a budget which funnels an enormous amount of cash and so wars in th

every day attack in places like afghanistan pakistan. of course we remain a. very high on the terrorist list of priorities so now is the government get out of the situation now and obviously human rights have to be expected but of course where do they draw the line i think is very important that human rights of course have to be respected and that's one of the reasons why our service with them when are dying abroad at the moment to make sure that that nations don't respect human rights or one or rephrase that not relations but that causes that don't respect human rights or we fight against that sort of narrow mindedness human rights are crucially important but there's a difference between the human rights of those who would endeavor to kill british citizens and human rights of british citizens what greater human rights is in the right to life he or she who would try to take your life away from you must be dealt with realistically or must built with sensibly we must originate from the front front from the strictures of the human rights act and we must replace i

led invasion of afghanistan passes the ten year mark with a taliban defeat nowhere in sight and a human cost that is rising faster than ever. meanwhile in the u.k. enough is enough say protesters calling for a speedy troop withdrawal they gather in london to mark the afghan wars tenth anniversary. and then to call for sentiment spreads fast across the u.s. the occupy wall street movement criticized for lacking organization goods they say it's far from chaotic and they're in the mood for the long haul as we report. focuses r.t. from moscow it's one am here now my name is kevin owen and first the u.s. led war in afghanistan is now past the ten year mark it's been widely dubbed as a decade of failure with nato troops no closer to victory over the taliban here when costello keeps rising both among the soldiers and the afghan civilians who demand an end to the aimless war in the violence it's bringing on with the case not like records. and never do much good instance of the battles more casualties despite official claims of the war's being won two chosen to live in this landing up to be dedu

the al qaeda has be driven out into pakistan, should we still be in afghanistan? isn't it time to say we did everything that we had set out to do. let's come home and do some nation building here? >> that's certainly an option. we did it in the '80s. and i guess you know, '80s retro can apply here too. in the '80s we fought with the afghans, against the soviets. when the soviets were defeated and they retreated from the country, we left afghanistan right away and the country fell into a terrible civil war. that's where the taliban came from. i mean we had that option again. if we can withdraw and we can leave it to the afghans. i mean ultimately this is an afghan fight and it's for the afghans to figure out their future. >> stephen: as you said at the beginning of the interview it is hard sometimes to hear thank you for your service. you're not sure what to say. is there something else you think that people could say to service members to thank them? >> i think thank you for your service is the right thing to say. i just think that for us it's difficult because we

afghanistan has been a crossroads for conflict. russia wants to see a stable afghanistan. they worry greatly about the heroin trade. that is a domestic problem. we are appreciative of the role there playing. >> as we pull out, and of the agreement in afghanistan, what is the response? do these organizations still remain as a cohesive command? what role will they be playing in region generally? it is tremendously important. >> the commitment that was made last year at the lisbon/nato summit to remain involved and have an enduring partnership was a very strong signal. nato countries understand that the security of the country. >> thank you. thank you for being here today. i was really very impressed by your visit. i've had the privilege of visiting pakistan. i was so impressed by their military. we read their to encourage the pakistani military and the u.s. marines for the earthquake recovery several years ago. the organization was professional. the military itself was very positive. i was very pleased. there is a young marine who is of pakistani/american heritage. to see pe

-led forces began their attack on the taliban in afghanistan. the military assault was in the short term a success but the past five years alone more than 10,000 afghan civilians have lost their lives and more than 2,700 troops have been killed since the conflict began. it's already overtaken vietnam as america's longest war. joining me now from west palm beach in florida is a former u.s. ambassador to nato. hello to you. today, in an interview with the bbc, president hamid karzai said the government and nato failed to provide afghans with security and said it was one of the biggest shortcomings. would you agree? >> well, i think so. i think we've seen a number of positive steps that have come out of this. the number of kids in school have increased, and the economy, that you've seen, better economic and agricultural production. you've seen building of roads so there's a lot of progress. but it's all very tenuous. and 10 years on, you can't say that international forces were to leave that you would have stability and security left behind. so i t

are leaving a stable afghanistan or an unstable afghanistan? because based on that, i in pakistan will have to take my own countermeasures. this is very important. if we leave afghanistan in an unstable condition, or not a fully stable condition, when i say fully stable, fully stable militarily and politically, then i presume there are two possibilities. this is my personal analysis. either afghanistan go back to 1989 when all ethnic groups were fighting against each other, or he goes back in 1996 when it was taliban, pashtun taliban on one side and uzbek, tajik, and northern alliance on the other side. in both cases, pakistan has to fend for itself. and it is a different strategy required to deal with each, because its direct influence, impact, negative impact, adverse impact will be on pakistan. so any leader in pakistan must think of securing pakistan's interest. so i think it's for united states to sit down with pakistan and discuss these issues very seriously. and element which clarification, and i know there are lots of indians, maybe sav

afghanistan is a strategic depth into pakistan. they created what we now as the taliban today under mulla omar. when they defeated the leaders of the mujahadin, they switched allianced and he became part of the taliban. mullah omar gave him position in the very first taliban government. now the strategy that we have in afghanistan is basically a strategy to pull out in 2014. the back stan strategy is how they can have their proxy in control of afghanistan after we pull out that that's what we see today. that struggle that's happening and the emergence of haqqani network as a major player in afghanistan. >> and in the an senbsence, the no effect we're going to have n on -- >> these people have been killing each other hundreds of years and will continue unfortunately to kill each other for hundreds. years. we need to leave but in a way we can guarantee afghanistan won't be a launchpad for transnational terroristic groups to attack the west and attack the united states. so in order to have the security guarantees, we have to have regi

that's one reason afghanistan takes so long. ten years ago, u.s. forces answered the worst attack ever on the american homeland. american gives are fightin g.i.g there tonight to build a better company for the people who harbored our enemies, uniquely american. that's the cbs news for tonight. for all of us at cbs news all around the world. i'm scott pelley, i'll see you sunday on "60 minutes." good night. >>> this is 9news now. >>> we continue to follow breaking news tonight. we are final hurricane getting to see the chilling surveillance video in the carmela del rosa murder case. yesterday the jury found the grandmother guilty of tossing her 2-year-old granddaughter to her death from the walkway at the tyson's corner last november. this video is extremely graphic and after reviewing it we have decided not to show you everything. but our peggy fox joins us live at fairfax county courthouse. peggy? >> reporter: the night carmela del rosa threw her granddaughter off the bridge two detectives med her her miranda rightses

really intends to remain in afghanistan forever. i think it's true it's a war on like any other in the u.s. history it's ten years old now it's the longest war it's also a war that the u.s. is not winning there is no such thing as military victory there but i think the calculation by the by the political administration and white in washington in the military is that they can endure this kind of fighting for a long time to come in their final intention is to incorporate afghanistan and the surrounding countries some of which were the former soviet republics in the south into americans fear of influence you said nato is not needed but president karzai said his own government as well as nato failed to provide afghans with security how will they really be able to win if they will they be able to cope without foreign aid. well i think it's very dubious but it's not really a think the karzai government really is an extension of american power which has a masquerade the fiction of a nato cover but really it's an american power cards i of c

led war in afghanistan has now passed the ten year mark it's been widely dubbed the decade of failure with nato troops no closer to victory over the taliban the human cost though keeps on rising both among the soldiers and afghan civilians who are demanding then to the endless war and the violence that brings down on them jason lot like reports. another day in afghanistan's southern battlefront more casualties despite official claims that the war is being won two thousand and eleven is lining up to be the deadliest yet for u.s. forces fighting to tame the decade long taliban insurgency but thanks to improved medical capabilities casualties who would have perished in previous conflicts are surviving by these two soldiers one patrol in a vehicle when a roadside bomb exploded beneath them it took less than half an hour for a medical crew to pick them up by helicopter and deliver them to the trauma ward at kandahar airfield one of the country's busiest for their injuries are bad but not extreme i mean we will most likely stay on base until they've recovered more severe cases such as if yo

led invasion of afghanistan passes a ten year anniversary with taliban defeat nowhere in sight meanwhile the human cost is rising faster than ever with the number of civilians killed this year learn approaching total coalition losses in a decade of fighting. while in london demands on the streets for the country's troops to leave afghanistan at a rally reflecting the unpopularity in the u.k. of the war which has claimed almost four hundred british military lives. and occupy wall street protests against trying to cause that you are spreading to dozens of american cities from richmond to los angeles and hating the countless old washington d.c. . and a very warm welcome from all of us here in moscow this is all see with me us from our thanks for joining us the u.s. led war in afghanistan has now passed the ten year mark widely dubbed as a decade of failure by critics its human cost keeps on climbing more than two thousand seven hundred foreign troops have died during the fighting a bigger by the number of added lives lost jason mortlock reports. more casualties displayed official claims tha

every day attack in places like afghanistan pakistan. of course we remain. very high on the terrorist list of priorities so how does the government get out of this situation obviously human rights have respected but of course where do they draw the line i think it is very important that human rights of course have to be respected and that's one of the reasons why our servicemen and women in going abroad at the moment to make sure that that nations that respect human rights or no rephrase the nations but causes that don't respect human rights or what we fight against that sort of narrow mindedness human rights and crucially important but there's a difference between the human rights of those who would endeavor to kill purchases as it was and the human rights of british citizens what greater human rights is in the right to life he or she who are trying to take your life away from you must be dealt with realistically must be dealt with sensibly we must there a gate from the front from from the strictures of the human rights act and we must replace that with a b

led war in afghanistan enters decades to with the white house dash in hopes of a total pullout saying the cia and special forces may be there to stay. russia and china vetoed a u.n. resolution on syria calling for a political dialogue instead of tough sanctions on president assad's regime. a slew of fresh credit rating has hit europe as spain italy and british banks take a huge hit from a reason to be worried investors. nine am in moscow i bring you today's top stories and a look back at the week's news here on our t.v. what began as a citizen stand off against big banks on wall street's grown into a nationwide rally in a couple of weeks heavy handed police tactics against protesters in manhattan brought it to the headlines and inspired people in other cities to join as artie's marina part and i reports campaigners are convinced this is just the start. collecting voices of american dissent has manifested into a movement impossible to ignore occupy wall street began in the world's financial capital but this week protests have police dozens of cities nationwide. in the big apple up to t

led war in afghanistan enters a decade to with the white house a dash in hopes of a total pullout saying the cia and special forces may be there to stay. russia and china vetoed a u.n. resolution on syria calling for a political dialogue instead of tough sanctions on president assad's regime. a slew of fresh credit rating cuts hit europe as spain italy and several british banks take a huge hit from increasingly worried investors. noon in moscow i'm not good to have you with us here on r t what began as a citizen standoff against the big banks on wall street has grown into a nationwide rally in just a couple of weeks heavy handed police tactics against the protesters in manhattan catapulted into headlines and inspired others to join in other cities marina porton i reports campaigners are convinced this is just the start. of the collective voices of american dissent has manifested into a movement impossible to ignore occupy cross street began in the world's financial capital but this week protests have police dozens of cities nationwide. in the biggest. up to fifteen thousand americans flo

but first america's war in afghanistan has reached its second decade this week in a worldwide chorus calling for the occupation to end grows louder but a white house official suggests that it may be far from over saying the cia and special forces could stay indefinitely as part of the global fight against terror as jason malard reports the evidence on the ground shows there is no hurry to leave . if the united states is drawing its troops from afghanistan why is its largest base getting bigger with us live forces overran the taliban in late two thousand and one bug a mere field is little more than a flight in a cracked runway since then the former soviet base in the plains north of the afghan capital has grown into a small city that's helped over twenty five thousand full time personnel fleets of military cargo aircraft and enough equals to cause traffic jams in the expansion is no way aided by scores of contractors u.s. military engineers are constructing new housing and storage facilities to make room for even more maybe more hardware after sending an extra thirty thousand troops t

what does it look like -- >> in afghanistan. >> >> in afghanistan and pakistan. >> what does u.s. policy this that crucial region look like without pakistani help? >> much more difficult, obviously, without pakistan. it's not impossible. it just will be more difficult. a long-term relationship with afghanistan with a much smaller number of u.s. troops in support of a continuing support of an afghan army that is

how long have you been in afghanistan. seventy years five years i would say money. yeah i think we've been there since september twelfth two thousand and one this is a ten year i'm going to say it's eleven would you have to have you know a guesstimate of how many troops we have there right now you know i don't know maybe two hundred thousand i don't know offhand i. want to say six thousand but i'm actually. kind of dancing. i would say more than there were over a hundred thousand i'm not even teach a class. a lot how many men do you think we've lost our last a neighbor boy. two to three thousand thirteen hundred thirteen and fourteen more. i don't know the numbers are high there are but i've lost count. the number of it being way too many and way too many lots lots to me. yeah we're too many ten years a lot of lives deaths too many lives of the good years it's time to get out well despite being a little bit hazy on numbers american seem to be saying the same thing you've lost too many maybe it's time we leave afghanistan r

have you been to afghanistan? in afghanistan in the face of weeks we built an entire city in a barren desert and equipped it with water filtration, pizza huts, starbucks. we did it while people were shooting (beep) rockets at us. you're telling me we shouldn't be able to weather-ize seattle bunk lows? we have nothing for $5 billion. >> the energy department says 14% of the projects failed to meet safety or quality standards. they found some of the furnish aces spewed carbon monoxide. water heaters on the verge of exploding. contractors not familiar with weatherization spewing asbestos throughout the home. >> jon: you know what? if as a country we can't even handle weather-izing our houses, we are done. we might as well just saw a hole in the roof and huddle around a tire fire for warmth. mr. president, the green energy is your idea. don't just throw a lot of tax payor money in there and walk away. when you decided to kill bin laden, did you say here give this money to haley barbour to head up a program. go down to

troops in afghanistan, the u.s. is currently spending $2 billion a week, and is on pace to spend i year. question, what explains general allen's seeming divergence from the commander in chief, barack obama's deadline for withdrawal by 2014 december, which is about three plus a few months, years from now. >> right. >> is it -- this commander in the field -- denying the validity of the commander in chief? >> not necessarily, more typical not announcing your withdrawal date as being vague as how long we'll be here the one thing the pentagon does to the want for the enemy to wait us out and then suddenly move in as soon as we pack up and leave. but the fact is we can't stay there forever. we are occupying the place, making progress in the tribal areas. we need to wind our effort down and turn it over to the afghans. >> you think it was purposeful disinformation on the part of the -- >> well -- >> because if you pause that sentence, he's not saying we won't be out. >> no, it will be -- >> a long period of time [everyone

gatheredle are protesting the war in afghanistan. is the 10th anniversary of it.start of protestingeople are he made a will to hear them behind me -- and they are the state of our economy. they say they are retired -- of corporated greed. where our country is going. they're concerned about their future and the lack of jobs. the country has been taken over by a greedy corporate culture and they want it to end. >> i have grandkids. see them be able to job. college, i out of to get a job. now you come out of college, you very good education or lower class education and you cannot get a job. why? >> some people are part of the "occupied dc" organization. they are demonstrating their. "occupiedt of the "local street." >>> there were two suspicious incidents the cup law- busy.ement they happened along pennsylvania and northwest. that vehicles litter the and say. then a metal pipe with and caps and metal sticking out of it was found. suspicious item is still under investigation. >>> it was also a busy morning for police in fairfax county. t

number one, that the elites of afghanistan abandoned afghanistan during this period. they came to the united states and europe. and this war against -- the jihad against the soviet union was spearheaded by religious militant groups. this is the one point that we need to understand. the second is that when the soviet union occupied afghanistan, a year before that through their their own imaginations they deposed the king. afghanistan was held together through an arrangement called -- which translates into a national covenant, and national agreement between all the four major ethnic groups, the pashtuns, tajiks, hussars and uzbeks who live together, stay together under the sovereignty of the king. but when the soviet union deposed the king, that glue which held afghanistan together was no more there. so that when we are talking of a political solution we are talking of creating another masako millie, national covenant which will hold contrary together which obviously implies their propositional representation of all the ethnic groups, the major ethnic groups from pashtu

led war in afghanistan passed its ten year mark with nato troops still no closer to victory over the taliban the chorus of criticism of the occupation gets louder meantime with the latest failure stamp coming from a former german general who planned this nation's role in the operation a decade ago nato plans on a full withdrawal from the country by the end of twenty fourteen birders jason model of reports the evidence on the ground shows there is no rush to leave. if the united states is drawing its troops from afghanistan why is its largest base getting bigger when u.s. led forces overran the taliban in late two thousand and one bug amir field is little more than a flight tower in a cracked runway since then the former soviet base in the plains north of the afghan capital has grown into a small city itself over twenty five thousand full time personnel fleets of military and cargo aircraft enough equals to cross traffic jams and an expansion is now underway aided by scores of contractors u.s. military engineers are constructing new housing and storage facilities to make room for even

led war in afghanistan enters its second decade with victory over the taliban and the pullout of foreign troops scarcely in sight i also. think that the fact that you. and thousands really think police and demonstrators clashed on the streets of athens after the i.m.f. sort of made them to the country cuts or collapse. and women who were western media reported as big butchered by bashar al assad's regime in syria says she's alive and well raising concerns that fabricated stories are being used in a bid to topple the country's leadership. nine pm sunday evening here in moscow over getting a drink from me kevin owen you're watching r t and our weekly it's surrounded by the week's top stories and first one to wall street protests that kicked off in new york three weeks ago now grown into a nationwide rally engulfing a growing number of u.s. cities every day traders inspired by the arab spring command an end to social inequality and corporate greed and there's there are calls for revolution that are getting louder and the authorities and media are finding them harder to ignore results is mor