that's different. >> we're at war with osama bin laden. >> we are? >> i mean, very pressed discussion there. but ever since that interview a few months ago both bin laden and gadhafi were guilty and bin laden's case by navy s.e.a.l., people you used to work alongside. what was your reaction? >> wait, i didn't work alongside them. i'm one of them. they're my brothers. i'm part of the teams. clash 58. no. and i have all the respect in the world for my guys. they'll get the job done. there's no doubt about it. the job is custom made for s.e.a.l. team 6. they're highly motivated. they're well trained. they'll complete the mission when given the opportunity to do so. what i question is this, were we told the truth? they lied about the murder of pat tillman. they lied about the rescue of jessica lynch. they lied about weapons of mass destruction in iraq. they lied about ties to al qaeda with saddam hussein. none of those were true things. so it becomes -- credibility by country. >> how do you -- >> they're not telling truth. >> let me ask you a direct ques

that's different. >> we're at war with osama bin laden. >> we are? >> i mean very pressient discussion there because since that interview, a few months ago, obviously both bin laden and gadhafi were killed and in bin laden's case, by navy s.e.a.l.s, people you used to work alongside. what was your reaction? >> wait, i didn't work alongside them. i'm one of them. they're my brothers. i'm underwater demolition s.e.a.l. team. part of the teams. class 58. no. and i have all the respect in the world for my guys. they'll get the job done. there's no doubt about it. the job is custom made for s.e.a.l. team 6. they're highly motivated. they're well trained. they'll complete the mission when given the opportunity to do so. what i question is this, were we told the truth? they lied about the murder of pat tillman. they lied about the rescue of jessica lynch. they lied about weapons of mass destruction in iraq. they lied about ties to al qaeda with saddam hussein. none of those were true things. so it becomes credibility of my country. >> how do you know they'r

that's different. >> we're at war with osama bin laden. >> we are? >> i mean, very pressed discussion there. but ever since that interview a few months ago both bin laden and gadhafi were guilty and bin laden's case by navy s.e.a.l.s, people you used to work alongside. what was your reaction? >> wait, i didn't work alongside them. i'm one of them. they're my brothers. i'm part of the teams. clash 58. no. and i have all the respect in the world for my guys. they'll get the job done. there's no doubt about it. the job is custom made for s.e.a.l. team 6. they're mi lhighly motivated. they're well trained. they'll complete the mission when given the opportunity to do so. what i question is this, were we told the truth? they lied about the murder of pat tillman. they lied about the rescue of jessica lynch. they lied about weapons of mass destruction in iraq. they lied about ties to al qaeda with saddam hussein. none of those were true things. so it becomes -- credibility by country. >> how do you -- >> they're not telling truth. >> let me ask you a direct

bin laden, a good thing, our relationship with pakistan has gotten worse which is not so much a good thing. and gingrich said, yeah, i'd be really mad. gingrich said well, it should be bad. you know what? if i were president, i'd be angry at the pakistanies because the implication being that they knew where osama bin laden was. >> and the thought that she is saying when pakistan is too nuclear to fail, what she was basically saying is that this could be what you fear in iran if iran wore to get a nuclear bomb. you would have a disaster. but pakistan already has dozens of nuclear bombs. and if the islamists or the al qaeda elements, taliban elements were to take over, you would have a nuclear threat. >> and you would have the same conversation about iran which is are you doing enough? are the sanctions strong enough? should we sanction the central bank? you spoke about that. or should we get involved in any military action if israel decides to -- >> and there is a nuance policy towards pakistan. you can't get let it get foot hands of the bad guys. >> there was a piece a few weeks ago

we've had free elections, killed osama bin laden. dismantled al queda. we've achieved very important goals for the united states of america. the fact we have 100,000 troops nation building in afghanistan. this nation so desperately needs to be built. on the ground we need a strong special forces presence and drone presence and need strong training of the afghan army. we haven't done a very good job definding and articulating what the end point is in afghanistan of the american people are getting very tired about where we find oufrselves today. >> are you suggesting we take our troops out next week? >> i said we should draw down from 100,000. we don't need $100,000 troops. many have crossed the wire. we need a presence on the ground more akin to 10,000 or $15,000. that will serve our interest in terms of intelligence gathering and special fors response capability. we need to peep for a world not just in south asia but in every corner of the world in which counter terrorism will be in front of us as far as the eye can see. >> on this issue, gloria and ron,

we've had free elections in 2004, we killed osama bin laden, we upended, dismantled al qaeda. we've achieved some very important goals for the united states of america. now, the fact that we have 100,000 troops nation building in afghanistan when this nation so desperately needs to be built, when on the ground we do need intelligence gathering, no doubt about that. we need a strong special forces presence. we need a drone presence and we need some ongoing train of the afghan national army, but we haven't done a very good job defining and articulating what the end point is in afghanistan. i think the american people are getting very tired about where wre find ourselves today. >> let me let governor romney respond. >> let me respond. are you suggesting, governor, that we take all our troops out next week. >> did you hear what i just said? we should drawn down from 100,000. we don't need 100,000 troops, many of whom can't cross the wire. we need a presence on the ground that is more akin to 10 to 15,000. that will help with intelligence gathering and special forces responsibility

we've had free elections in 2004, we killed osama bin laden, we upended, dismantled al qaeda. we've achieved some very important goals for the united states of america. now, the fact that we have 100,000 troops nation building in afghanistan when this nation so desperately needs to be built, when on the ground we do need intelligence gathering, no doubt about that. we need a strong special forces presence. we need a drone presence and we need some ongoing training of the afghan national army, but we haven't done a very good job defining and articulating what the end point is in afghanistan. i think the american people are getting very tired about where we find ourselves today. >> let me let governor romney respond. >> let me respond. are you suggesting, governor, that we take all our troops out next week? what's your proposal? >> did you hear what i just said? we should drawn down from 100,000. we don't need 100,000 troops, many of whom can't cross the wire. we need a presence on the ground that is more akin to 10,000, to 15,000. that will help with intelligence gathering and

we've had free elections in 2004, we killed osama bin laden, we upended, dismantled al qaeda. we've achieved some very important goals for the united states of america. now, the fact that we have 100,000 troops nation building in afghanistan when this nation so desperately needs to be built, when on the ground we do need intelligence gathering, no doubt about that. we need a strong special forces presence. we need a drone presence and we need some ongoing train of the afghan national army, but we haven't done a very good job defining and articulating what the end point is in afghanistan. i think the american people are getting very tired about where wre find ourselves today. >> let me let governor romney respond. >> let me respond. are you suggesting, governor, that we take all our troops out next week. >> did you hear what i just said? we should drawn down from 100,000. we don't need 100,000 troops, many of whom can't cross the wire. we need a presence on the ground that is more akin to 10 to 15 15,000. that will help with intelligence gathering and special forces responsibil

bin laden. and i think that the question that people are going to have is, who has got the guts to make the tough calls. and the other thing people are going to look for is who has the guts to take on the other candidates. will newt gingrich stop running for president like he's been doing this entire time. >> the no attacks on mitt romney is a little pathetic. >> he has to stir up controversy within the republican primary. but he does make a good point which is that this is one of the difficulties sometimes in a republican primary. in any primary. many times you agree on a lot of these issues. so the charge is that who can show they are the strongest? who is the one that -- the candidate that can show they are the most articulate or have the greatest, strongest vision for the country. so that is -- that's what these debates offer these candidates the opportunity to do that. >> i want to ask about iran because i think it's important for both sides you represent. i want to really cover this ad whi

they said the same thing just after the raid that killed osama bin laden. we'll have a live report from pakistan in just a bit. >>> also, it was a record haul for retailers on black friday. all those big deals and long lines apparently paid off for the stores to the tune of about $11.4 billion. that's about $1 billion more than last year. >>> also, police in buckeye, arizona, are taking a closer look at the bloody arrest of a shopper at one of those chaotic black friday sales. it was caught on video by one of our ireporter. the 54-year-old man on the ground there, he was thrown apparently face first into the floor by police officers, accused of shoplifting and resisting arrest. the man, family says, he put a video game under his shirt because other shoppers were trying to grab it out of his hands. [ crowd noise ] >>> police haven't yet decided what to do with the woman who has admitted she sprayed pepper spray into a crowd at walmart in los angeles. she turned herself in on friday, but she was released. investigators are trying to figure out if she did it t

bin laden. look, pakistan is important for the war effort in afghanistan. pakistan also has between 70 and 90 nuclear war heads, a strong nuclear power that the u.s. needs to engage. and, on the other side, the u.s. provides billions of dollars in aid to pakistan. so there are elements there that suggest the relationship will find a way to continue. >> chris lawrence at the poent gone, thank you. >>> and finally here on reporter roulette, chad myers with talk of rain. it's been a nasty day in atlanta. and possible snow in the southeast? >> yes. tonight. the good news is everyone has some leftovers. you don't have to go to the store. you don't have to go get bread or milk. >> speak for yourself, friend. i ate all of mine. >> it's only a three-hour event. you can live three hours without new bread. western tennessee, northern misses miss and northern alabama, big snow. could be four to five inches. >> wow! >> but it will be 36 degrees, brooke, so it may be sticking to the grass but it certainly wo

. >> apparently when the helicopter went down the night of osama bin laden died, some say the pakistanis let them look at our technology there. >> it's amazing what we put up with. >> thank you very much. it is something that gives you a food for thought. it makes you wonder if congress is really going to step up to the plate and deal with this problem. let's turn to representative kristi noem, republican congresswoman from south dakota. thank you for being with us. the president speaking now in australia at this very moment. congress warned today about the rise of china's military power which can only get stronger so far as their economy is growing and lending and ours is not growing and borrowing. is the super commit see going to do its job. >> the more debt we continue to accumulate, that's who has been borrowing our bonds. this super committee needs to come for ward. it's time to do our job in washington, d.c. and do something that offers solutions. >> you are a member who has been staunch in your belief that we don't need tax increases. mr. toomey came on this show, member of the su

. >> apparently when the helicopter went down the night of osama bin laden died, some say the pakistanis let them look at our technology there. >> it's amazing what we put up with. >> thank you very much. it is something that gives you a food for thought. it makes you wonder if congress is really going to step up to the plate and deal with this problem. let's turn to representative christie noems, republican congresswoman from zk. thank you for being with us. the president speaking now in australia at this very moment. congress warned today about the rise of china's military power which can only get stronger so far as their economy is growing and lending and ours is not growing and borrowing. is the super commit see going to do its job. >> the more debt we continue to accumulate, that's who has been borrowing our bonds. this super committee needs to come for ward. it's time to do our job in washington, d.c. and do something that offers solutions. >> you are a member who has been staunch in your belief that we don't need tax increases. mr. toomey came on this show, member of the super com

. >> apparently when the helicopter went down the night of osama bin laden died, some say the pakistanis let them look at our technology there. >> it's amazing what we put up with. >> thank you very much. it is something that gives you a food for thought. it makes you wonder if congress is really going to step up to the plate and deal with this problem. let's turn to representative kristi noem, republican congresswoman from south dakota. thank you for being with us. the president speaking now in australia at this very moment. congress warned today about the rise of china's military power which can only get stronger so far as their economy is growing and lending and ours is not growing and borrowing. is the super commit see going to do its job. >> the more debt we continue to accumulate, that's who has been borrowing our bonds. this super committee needs to come for ward. it's time to do our job in washington, d.c. and do something that offers solutions. >> you are a member who has been staunch in your belief that we don't need tax increases. mr. toomey came on this show, member of the su

we killed osama bin laden. we dismantled al qaeda. we have achieved some very important goals for the united states of america. now the fact we have 100,000 troops nation building in afghanistan when this nation so desperately nieds to be built, when on the ground we need intelligence gathering, no doubt about that. we need a strong special forces presence. we need a drone presence and some ongoing training of the afghan national army. but we haven't done a very good job defining and articulating what the end point is in afghanistan. i think the american people are getting very tired about where we find ourselves today. >> let me let governor romney respond. >> let me respond. are you suggesting, governor, we take all our troops out next week? what is your proposal? >> did you hear what i just said? i said we should draw down from 100,000 troops. we need a presence on the ground that is more akin to 10 or 15,000. that will serve our interests in terms of intelligence gathering and special forces capability. we need to prepare for a wo

buried osama bin laden's body at sea. also where president obama is about to watch a matchup between unc and michigan state. we have the details. >>> wolf not only is this ship that buried osama bin laden at sea, the ship that first laumpked attack against taliban and al qaeda following 2011. a historic setting on veterans day, the first time that a college basketball game has been played on an aircraft carrier. and president obama will be delivering remarks shortly before the game. as you know, he's a huge basketball fan and player. he'll be joined by thousands of service men and women to watch this game which begins at 7:15 eastern. it will be broadcast on espn. during the game he'll be interviewed courtside both by espn and westwood one. so television and radio that radio interview will be airing as well on the armed forces radio network. after the game, it's business. he'll be departing san diego, heading for honolulu where he'll be the hosting the apex summit to be talking about economic issues. but this is really an

he got osama bin laden and in this field, wolf, as you know bitter than i do, there is no john mccain. there is no republican hawk here like we saw in the 2008 elections. mitt romney disagrees with barack obama on iraq and afghanistan, but really, much more on the timetables of the withdrawal of the troops than anything else. so, these republicans are going up, whoever's the nominee, is going up against the president who really does have credibility on foreign policy with american voters. democrats and some republicans. >> how does the issue of iran and its nuclear program play into a debate like this one tonight? >> i think it's a very, very important issue and we asked in our cnn poll, let me tell you the question. the u.s. should use military action to get iran to shut down its nuclear program. we asked that question. democrats, you see, wolf. only 12%. independents, only 16% and even republicans, only 22%. so, there's really not any large amount of support per getting involved in iran in a military way, but these presidential candidates, some would argue have done a little bit of

bin laden in pakistan recently. >> thank you so much, we'll check back in with you. >>> we'll give you a look now as we approach the bottom of the hour at some other stories making headlines. including three american students are expected back in the united states this weekend. they were accused of being involved in the recent violent clashes in tahrir square. all three have been attending american university in cairo on a semester long study abroad program. >>> also, maybe nba basketball by christmas? the owners and players have reportedly agreed on a tentative deal that could end the lockout. it's been going on for 149 days now. according to espn, the league is playing a 66-game season with training camps opening somewhere around december 9th. the handshake deal has to be ratified by both players and owners. >>> also, a formal safety investigation has been launched into general motors chevy volt. the national highway traffic safety administration says the car's lithium ion battery could catch fire in a crash. so far it's only happened in simulations, however. chevy is working with th

bin laden was buried at sea. the occasion, of course, veterans day. acknowledging veterans and the sacrifices they have given to their country. but also the president took the opportunity to tout his jobs plan. specifically one provision from it, that would give tax credits to companies who hire veterans. this is a provision that passed the senate on thursday. but the real news made was in a courtside interview the president did with espn. he was asked about the controversy that has enveloped penn state. >> the whole situation is heartbreaking. we think first and foremost of the victims of these alleged crimes. but i think it's a good time for us to do soul searching. every institution, not just penn state, about what our priorities are. and making sure that we understand that our first priority is protecting our kids. you know, we all have a responsible. we can't leave it to a system. we can't leave it to somebody else. each of us has to take it upon ourselves to make sure our kids have the love and support and

hussein after osama bin laden and saddam hussein. he had all the bomb components and was about an hour away from completing a pipe bomb. court papers say he spent hours scraping match heads to collect the flammable powder and combined batteries, wiers and christmas light circuits, some of which he bought at home depot. the court documents show pimental told a detective in a video recorded interview -- we'll see it at trial -- that islamic law obligates true muslims to wage war against the united states in retaliation of u.s. occupation of muslim lands. the targets were troops returning from iraq and government buildings. nypd had him on radar for two and a half years. there was a confidential informant who got so close to the defendant that the two went out and purchased some of the materials together. pimental was building the device in the informant's apartment in upper manhattan. he's pleaded not guilty to the five terrorism charges against him. >> thank you, deb feyerick in new york. for a third day egyptian forces are unleashing

bin laden. i mean, in a national security debate last night, the entire field had no plan. particularly mitt romney. no plan on withdrawing our troops from iraq when the overwhelming majority of the american people support that. he would leave them there indefinitely. this is a field not ready for primetime when it comes to being commander in chief. >> there were eight candidates on the stage, though, and you know, by my count, you've said mitt romney twice, haven't named any of the other candidates by name. at least not yet, but why after -- why go after mitt romney so early on in this contest? i mean, the iowa caucuses aren't until january 3rd? >> the reason i'm talking about mitt romney, i also mentioned newt gingrich, is because he has some really disturbing views. i mean, he's done his best to continue to embrace the tea party extremism. he is someone who is focused on making sure that we do everything but take care of the middle class and working families, and so i think he's earned the at

osama bin laden and saddam hussein. he was uses supplies such as matches and christmas lights. this weekend he started drilling holes in the pipe which according to instructions is the last mechanical step in building the bomb. >> the suspect was a so-called lone wolf motivated by troops in iraq and afghanistan as well as inspired al qaeda propaganda. not part of a larger conspiracy emanating from abroad. he represents exactly the kind of threat fbi director robert mueller and his experts have warned about. >> reporter: now, the fbi and other agencies were not involved and large will you inaware of this two-year long investigation even though the alleged target did include u.s. service personnel. nypd bombmakers actually built and detonated a similar device inside this car. look at it right there. this assumed that pimentel's device would have worked. a counterterrorism expert tells me that had they been done properly, had they didn't built and placed in the right location, they could have killed upwards of a dozen peop

the president has led a successful effort to eliminate osama bin laden, he limit his number 2, and see muammar gaddafi, one of the senate interests -- significant terrorists of our time taken out without a single loss of life. this president has shown the effectiveness to the international community. the fact that he has focused on jobs at home means his numbers are going up. let me tell you why we will take back the house. the independents in america are looking for solutions. the independents looking for common sense. they are seeing that that is not what has been brought to the congress by the republican leadership. they have brought us to the brink of default and happen not addressed growth and jobs. the people will see that that is not the kind of policy they want to pursue. they will all take for democratic candidates. we have wonderful democratic candidates all over the country. the republicans sit in six districts that were either won by president obama or john kerry in the past. >> do you have the optimism that the president will be elected and democrats will hold the senate?

we have gotten rid of osama bin laden. we made high command is essentially operational irrelevant, according to what analysts say. we will have combat troops out of iraq. as president obama promised an following president bush's plans at the end of this year. we have intensified activities in afghanistan. we got some operational results and we are on a draw down there. i think he has handled and worked his way through this pretty well. we need to be looking long-term as the united states. we need to strengthen our economy. we need to bring jobs and prosperity back to america because ultimately america's strength and influence in the world rests more on our economy than it does on the men and women in uniform. >> analyst will say that a number of major policy years -- president obama has continued many of the major bush administration policies. if you believe that thesis, i am wondering about how different things would be under a republican administration. essentially, is there a fairly unified foreign policy right now amon

he put our troops in to go after osama bin laden. he took them out. it is tough for the republicans to get to the right of the president on nafta security. host: here is one photograph. from the cnn debate last night company talking about newt gingrich's rise. we will show a number of clips. here is one from herman cain. it regards iran and the u.s. and israel. >> i would first make sure that they had a credible plan for success. clarity of mission and clarity of success. remember, when you talk about attacking iran, it is a very mountainous region. the latest reports say that that -- there may be 40 different locations. i would want to make sure that we had a good idea from intelligence sources were these are located. and it israel had a credible plan that appeared as if they could succeed, i would support israel, yes. and in some instances, depending on how strong the plan is, we would join with israel for that, if it was clear what the mission was and what the definition of victory was. host: general clark, there were other conversations about iran

tonight, osama bin laden is history. al qaeda has been decimated. thanks to the bold and determined leadership of president, justice has been done and america is safer for it. typical of the person i know, president obama did not brag. he thanked our troops. he thanked our intelligence services. he moved on to the next terrorist who was threatening america and brought him to justice. he did not hang a banner, he did not pretend that the mission was accomplished. he got the job done. [applause] that is the change we believed in and that is the change the president delivered. four years ago, senator obama, at this podium, stood before you and said, he wanted to stop talking about the outrage of 47 million americans without health care. he wanted to start doing something about it. he promised then, i will make certain that every single american in this country has health care they can count on and i will not do it 20 years from now. i will not do it 10 years from now. i will do it at the end of my first term as president. folks, you know this. politici

the raid that killed osama bin laden was an important step in the struggle against al qaeda. do you think and expanded ground campaign -- drone campaign would be sufficient to defeat of aid and secure our interests? >> devin huntsman. >> as we talk about foreign policy, to have an effective foreign policy, we need a washington that works. we have a president who cannot read. we have a congress that cannot figure out how to balance the budget. we have to get our house in order. when our light shines, we can influence the rest of the world. pakistan is a concern. that is the country that ought to keep everybody up. you have the general in charge over the military which is responsible for isi. you have the youngest democrat vic -- demographic. you have over 100 nuclear weapons. you have trouble on the border. you have a nation state that is a candidate for failure. i say, it is a haven for bad behavior. it is a haven for training of the people who seek to do us harm. a drone program would serve our interests. it must be done. we do not need 100,000 troops in afghanistan. we do n

guest: the material that was picked up in osama bin laden's home showed they were preoccupied, almost obsessed with caring the attack on the anniversary of 9/11. so anniversaries do count, but so did iconic buildings. i didn't like to use the term "lone wolf," because it doesn't tell you who they are. are we talking about environmental terrorists? this was an argument -- started under the bush administration when they stop using the term "radical islam." this is no more stereotyping all muslims been using christian terrorists or protestant terrorists or jewish terrorists. they all exist. host: leonard in michigan. caller: yes. there was a program on cnn news that stated that there had been in mississippi a murder, a lynching of sorts by a group of a caucasian individuals. there were six involved and only one was prosecuted. guest: i apologize that i am not aware of that. and i apologize because i would like to be aware of the iit andi will check it out. if race was a motivating factor, that would be a hate crime. it doesn't mean there aren't other forms of religious terrorism. there i