joel klein was with me, and he came over because he was to do a conference with mr. gove on education. that was -- he was invited when he was -- long before joining me, when he was a chancellor of the new york city school system. and there might have been another one. i mean i like to get a few people around me have different interests and different -- different fields not just politicians. but on education, i want to say very clearly if i can take this opportunity, i -- we are passionate about it. we believe that it's an absolute disgrace, the standard of public education here and in america. in america, nearly 30% of children do not get through high school. the dropout three years early and are committed to the underclass forever. and there are being efforts in different states to try and tackle this, but it's very difficult. not for lack of money, but for lack of teacher cooperation, and we believe that there are a lot of issues here, the sort of society at the way it's going and our civilization is going, but from being in the first, i think, two or three or four