and teen nine from the illinois policy institute. now from facebook : >> the answer is yes of violation of first amendment rights. we all believe in them. but we do have the right to to speak with only one group has the right to be listened to witches' government employees union. nobody else has the right to speak. when they negotiate a contract they cannot walk away from the table. the politicians have to listen to them. it is part of a loss. >> the cycle of money from the union to the campaign and back what is the most effective play to break the cycle so we don't have "shadowbosses"? >> choice. in places where you're not allowed to use them members money for politics unless the members agree, then number drop significantly. there is the growing discontent the way their money is being used. for political purposes that has nothing to do with representing them. the estimate is 1/3 where 60% actually represents. the rest goes to politics. john: going back to fdr you cannot have government unions the cut as they negotiate their own bos

we received 7 reports of tornadoes across the state of illinois. we have that concern over oklahoma city, springfield, missouri and wichita and kansas. texas panhandle as well. 43 right now in minneapolis. cool across the plains. warmer this morning in the northeast 65 in new york city. >>> maria molina, thank you. >>> now to some stories you can bank on this morning. the controversial call at the end of the packers green bay game cost green bays a win but ma many betters as well. a lot of folks out of big money. >> a lot of people thinking replace this. some $300 million was wrongly lost on that blown call giving the seahawks a last play td they didn't reserve. one giving the loss back. this is a $10 billion a year business tarnished by a $3 million differen $3 million difference in pay. >>> tigers were favored about 4 and a half. now to the future which is happening right now. driverless cars. >> get ready for the driverless car. would you rather be in it or along side it. signed it pushed by google making it legal for tech drives computer contro

here we have two tornado watches out for a good portion of illinois and southern illinois extending down into missouri. we've had some isolated reports, tornado warnings. doppler radar indicated tornadoes. but for the most part any tornadic activity we see coming out of the, what is left over from this going to be short lived and fairly weak. that's not to say they're not going to be dangerous but for the most part that is what we're looking at throughout the afternoon. rainfall totals for the most part in southeastern illinois, southern indiana, portions of kentucky, this is where we could see kind of a bulls eye for some heavy rainfall here. this'll be where most of the energy is going to be heading into the next 24 to 48 hours, maybe 6 to 10 inches of rainfall possible in some of those areas. but for those who are without power and it may take several more days for everybody to get back online, in southeastern louisiana they're saying in excess of 440,000 people without power. look at the temperature. it's 90 degrees outside, insufferable. that with the humidity combined to make the h

illinois down to mississippi and alabama tonight, that's where the threat lies, that's where the circulation is and really a tornado watch just went into effect the last couple of hours until 11:00 p.m. eastern, all the way from lexington to tupelo. so nashville is included as well. let me show you this video. more tornadoes showing up yesterday. this one in missouri. thank you to our affiliate for getting this out of arkansas, but impressive images. we know that it can do it. the system is capable of producing tornadoes. >> luckily no one hurt so far. i know you're tracking this all night long. ginger, thanks to you. >>> in the meantime, finally welcome news. authorities have lifted a mandatory evacuation order after determining there that a dam is going to hold along the louisiana river, saving so many neighborhoods in its path.

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days later, back in illinois, miller turned up a huge lead. he found witnesses who vividly remember hall from a revolutionary war re-enactment in the georgetown area the very weekend before jessie was abducted. to them, hall stood out for his bushy muttonchops side burns, but also for playing a soldier who was fighting the wrong war. >> he was wearing a civil war uniform and he had a civil war hat. >> at a revolutionary war re-enactment. >> exactly. >> armed with this new information, deputy miller returned to wabash for a second crack at hall. this time, he pressed his suspect harder, stressing that hall's fellow reenactors had seen him near georgetown. >> he came along to the point he said well, i go to so many re-enactments, i could have been there and don't remember because i go to a lot of them. >> he was giving more ground. >> right, yeah. >> miller sees the opening and kept at it. finally he said hall came clean and confessed that he abducted, sexually violated, and strangled jessie roach to death. >> how much detail did he give you abo

now, in illinois we know president barack obama. (cheers and applause) we know president obama has always made sure has spearheaded welfare reform under in the land of lincoln and under president obama states can only get flexibility if they move 20% more people to work. let me repeat that for our republican friends. more people working! not less! ha (cheers and applause) then there's medicare. mitt romney and congressman ryan want to take away the promise that makes medicare medicare. they want to give seniors a voucher that cap what is medicare will cover and then tell our seniors they're on their own for what's left that would cost our seniors thousands of dollars every year and if they don't have the money it could cost our seniors their lives. but that didn't stop romney and ryan from telling the american people that their plan won't hurt seniors. the fact is, it will. and president obama's plan will protect medicare and protect our seniors. (cheers and applause) facts are stubborn things! (applause) now, when congressman ryan

illinois after which it can be presumed that someone is dead? seven years in some states? >> again, for the criminal case that would be not. >> judge jeanine: that is not necessary. >> but that wouldn't necessarily be binding on any one. and we have to convince the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that she is dead, okay. >> judge jeanine: of course. >> and that he killed her. >> judge jeanine: november 26 the sentence. he can get anywhere from 20 to 60 years. what will you ask for? >> i'm going to ask for 60 years without hesitation. he was a police officer and use ad his badge to commit this crime. if you think about it, the next night when alleges that he was knocking on the door trying to return the kids he is in uniform and concealing a homicide. because he is a policeman he is committing official misconduct and hopefully the pension board will take notice of that. i underand it because technically he committed the murder while off duty that that may not be sufficient to terminate his pension. >> doesn't the statute say if he used evidence or what he

in missouri and illinois, a mixed blessing. for this corn, it's too little too late. the rains that are coming down now won't make much of a difference because the growing season is nearly over. but it will make a difference for these soybeans. >> maybe up to 5% difference. the soybeans i'm sure will take that up rather quickly and help fill out the seeds. >> reporter: a good start but nowhere near what is needed. >> they'll need steady rains during the cool season, above normal rainfall or precipitation. a good winter snow pack. >> reporter: for now, bill will savor what little rainfall he gets. nbc news, belleville, illinois. >>> in california thousands of people were turned away from a popular destination this holiday weekend because of a raging wildfire there. more than 4,000 acres of the angeles national forest have now burned. today captured from the air this unusual image of a so-called fire tornado, a column of flames you see there. >>> still ahead as "nightly news" continues for this labor day, our special series, "far from home." tonight a green beret helpin

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and $4.15 in chicago and illinois. in chicago nearly $4.34. >> i have to make changes with how i buy food, how i do my bills. >> reporter: this is interesting. aaa cac lates if you're driving from atlanta to kansas city in a 2008 toyota van, you'll pay about $192348 fuel. same vehicle from new york to chicago, about $200. from spokane to palm springs about $358 in fuel. the good news, gas prices aren't expected to stay this high. as refineries start switching to a less expensive winter blend, their inventories will come back up. gas prices, it's hoped, will start to go back down. >> between thanksgiving and christmas, the national average may drop to the mid $3.00 range. some areas could drop even lower than that. >> reporter: in the short term, getting around is going to cost little more. tom costello, nbc news, bethesda, maryland. >>> up next, one of the country's most famous zoos changes the whole experience with a walk on the wild sing. ♪ this is more than a teddy bear. it's a step towards normal. it's why allsta

i'm running to serve illinois' 8th congressional district. my father served in the army and marine corps, oorah. vietnam vet, his family has worn our nation's uniform since the american revolution. my husband is an army officer and my brother saved lives in the coast guard. my mom is thai and chinese examine proudly became a citizen in her 50s. [ cheers and applause ] dad's work took us all over the world until he lost his job. it was a tough time. we used up our savings, moved into a studio apartment. but our family did the responsible thing and we rolled up our sleeves, mom took in sewing. my 55-year-old dad kept looking for work. but at 15 years old, i was the only one with a job. after school for minimum wage. thank god for the food stamps, public education, and pell grant that helped me finish high school and college. [ cheers and applause ] in time, we pulled through. with this start, i was able to earn my own commission as an army officer and i became an assault helicopter pilot working my way up to command a blackhawk helicopter compa

in missouri and illinois, a mixed blessing. for this corn, it's too little too late. the rains that are coming down now won't make much of a difference because the growing season is nearly over. but it will make a difference for these soybeans. >> maybe up to 5% difference. the soybeans i'm sure will take that up rather quickly and help fill out the seeds. >> reporter: a good start but nowhere near what is needed. >> they'll need steady rains during the cool season, above normal rainfall or precipitation. a good winter snow pack. >> reporter: for now biel will savor what little rainfall he gets. nbc news, belleville, illinois. >>> in california thousands of people were turned away from a popular destination this holiday weekend because of a raging wildfire there. more than 4,000 acres of the angeles national forest have now burned. today captured from the air this unusual image of a so-called fire tornado, a column of flames you see there. >>> still ahead as "nightly news" continues for this lar day, our special series, "far from home." tonight a green beret helping t

host: pat from park city, illinois. caller: i had voted for republicans last year although i did vote for obama. kind of disappointed that republicans did not do what they said they were going to do. they made all kinds of promises. it is very saddening to not see a lot of things pass. we have the farm bill and other things like that. i have a comment. please read "rolling stone" magazine. a kind of explains what romney is about. i was disappointed to hear what he was about, taking jobs overseas. i do support the unions and the farm bills, because people do need to eat. i'm hoping they can come together and not have too many discriminations against the poor and the middle class because we are the people of the united states of america. thank you very much. guest: everyone is unhappy. a lot of republicans were not happy. they wrestled the government down to almost a spending freeze but not quite. people were about what happens to women and children. it is two different ways of looking at it. republicans want to cede the

you should think about running for a seat in the illinois state senate. >> that goat was right. and with him by his side, barack obama completed his higher education, and seat belt of seta historic career in the illinois state legislature. >> that should be a commercial and not presidential. politicians shouldn't have free access. >> the state purchasing act should apply to all state agencies. >> and after serving more than 2/3 of one decades the caught the notice of the party elders and soon found himself on a national stage. >> ♪ >> it was there that he found his voice. >> i believe that we have a right to the facts. >> a voice that would unite us at all. >> there is not a liberal america and a conservative america. there is the united states of america. >> my god, he's good. >> there is not a black america and a white america and latino america and asian america. it's the united states of america. >> every time barack obama speaks, an angel has an anointed. >> we are the ones we've been waiting for. >> i don't even know what that means, but holy [bleep] i'm feeling it. >> w

and teen nine from the illinois policy institute. now from facebook : >> the answer is yes of violation of first amendment rights. we all believe in them. but we do have the right to to speak with only one group has the right to be listened to witches' government employees union. nobody else has the right to speak. when they negotiate a contract they cannot walk away from the table. the politicians have to listen to them. it is part of a loss. >> the cycle of money from the union to the campaign and back what is the most effective play to break the cycle so we don't have "shadowbosses"? >> choice. in places where you're not allowed to use them members money for politics unless the members agree, then number drop significantly. there is the growing discontent the way their money is being used. for political purposes that has nothing to do with representing them. the estimate is 1/3 where 60% actually represents. the rest goes to politics. john: going back to fdr you cannot have government unions the cut as they negotiate their own bos

>> illinois. i was born in chicago which was there in miles south on the edge -- almost a foreign country in those days. was born in chicago. in the hospital that i later found was on a site of a place where softball was invented in 1887. took my kids back who work huge baseball fanatics and that was the only thing that impressed them about my early life. didn't have much to do with me. in any case that is where i was. one thing about growing up in the midwest. in those days people had a little sense of disconnected this from events in washington almost as if he were dependent variable and that was a time of very powerful presence -- presidents. not only john kennedy and lyndon johnson but as personalities, in my mind one of the lessons from the cuban missile crisis was a president is so important and powerful that he has the power to decide whether tens of millions of human beings will live or not and that is true. i remember living through the cuban missile crisis. reminded me of tornado warning

the verdict is in for a former illinois police officer, drew peterson. how much time he former illinois police p to 60 years in after being convicted of killing one of his wives. jury founder peterson guilty murder in thee drowning death of his third savio.thleen charged with killing his fourth wife stacy peterson disappeared in 2007. he is a suspect in his wife's disappearance, but is not been charged in connection with her death. sentencedduled to be connection with the death of kathleen savio in november of for. foster democratic added on child sexarged e charges. gardner was found guilty molesting kids kill during sleep over with his daughter. victims were ages nine and 10. recommended a 22-year sentence if. he was chairman of the falls church city democratic from 2006 through 2007. parents upset over a plan to ease schoolbus overcrowding in packed a school board meeting to blast for announcing a new before the two weeks that requireegan who livey students within a mile of school and secondary students who live a half to walkand to school. dangerous.

>> he lived in illinois. i live in texas. it's one of the reddest states in the whole nation. >> reporter: there are ghosts in this convention center for anyone delivering the keynote. ghosts of surgery,ful and unsuccessful keynotes gone by. >> my fellow democrats. >> reporter: in 1988, the keynote by bill clinton at the dnc was widely jeered and almost derailed his career. and yet, four years later, clinton was elected president. but there are plenty of speakers no one remembers. julian castro feels the pressure. why did obama pick you? >> i think that he and i see eye to eye on a lot of issues. i also think it's another signifier of the significance of h himself pan hispanics. >> reporter: his mother immigrated to the country, his brother joaquin is now running for congress. he's expected to win. tonight, he introduced julian. >> ours is a nation like no other. a place where great journeys can be made in a single generation. no matter who you are or where you come from, the path is always forward. >> reporter: you grew up i

and teen nine from the illinois policy institute. now from facebook : >> the answer is yes of violation of first amendment rights. we all believe in them >> we all believe in first amendment rights don't we? we realize we have a right to speak but only one group has the absolute right to be listened to. and that's government employee onions. nobody has the right to be listened to we don't have the right to speak except government employee onions. >> what do you mean? >> when they are negotiating a contract you can't walk away from the table. politicians have to listen to them. that is absolutely part of the law. >> yes, sir, who is first. go ahead. >> my question is about the cycle of money from the union to the campaigns then back to the ief unions again. what's the most effective and easiest way to break the cycle so we don't have the shadow boxes any more? >> steve, joyce first of all. it goes back in places where you are not allowed to use a member's money for politics unless members agree to it what happens is political spending

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>> he lived in illinois. i live in texas. it's one of the reddest states in the whole nation. >> reporter: there are ghosts in this convention center for anyone delivering the keynote. ghosts of surgery,ful and unsuccessful keynotes gone by. >> my fellows. >> reporter: in 1988, the keynote by bill clinton at the dnc was widely jeered and almost derailed his career. and yet, four years later, clinton was elected president. but there are plenty of speakers no one remembers. julian castro feels the pressure. why did obama pick you? >> i think that he and i see eye to eye on a lot of issues. i also think it's another signifier of the significance of h himself pan hispanics. >> reporter: his mother immigrated to the country, his brother joaquin is now running for congress. he's expected to win. tonight, he introduced julian. >> ours is a nation like no other. a place where great journeys can be made in a single generation. no matter who you are or where you come from, the path is always forward. >> reporter: you grew up in a commu

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the gentlewoman from illinois is recognized. mrs. biggert: thank you, and i would yield to the gentleman from nevada, the author of this bill, mr. heck, for such time as he may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from nevada is recognized. mr. heck: thank you, mr. speaker. and i thank the gentlelady for yielding. mr. speaker, i rise today to encourage my colleagues to support h.r. 6361, the vulnerable veterans housing reform act of 2012. as stated this bill would remove an unnecessary barrier that prevents our i guess abled wartime veterans from -- disabled wartime veterans for receive -- from receiving the assistance they need. it does this by preventing the department of housing and urban development from considering our veterans' aid and attendance benefits as income. the benefit is an enhanced pension program provided by the department of veterans affairs to our nation's wartime veterans who are severely disabled and have little or no income. according to the v.a., veterans eligible for the aid and attendance benefit

and teen nine from the illinois policy institute. now from facebook : >> the answer is yes of violation of first amendment rights. we all believe in them >> we all believe in first amendment rights don't we? we realize we have a right to speak but only one group has the absolute right to be listened to. and that's government employee onions. nobody has the right to be listened to we don't have the right to speak except government employee onions. >> what do you mean? >> when they are negotiating a contract you can't walk away from the table. politicians have to listen to them. that is absolutely part of the law. >> yes, sir, who is first. go ahead. >> my question is about the cycle of money from the union to the campaigns then back to the ief unions again. what's the most effective and easiest way to break the cycle so we don't have the shadow boxes any more? >> steve, joyce first of all. it goes back in places where you are not allowed to use a member's money for politics unless members agree to it what happens is political spending

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and one does not treat the highest office within the gift of the people of illinois as an alternative or as a consolation prize. the responsibilities of that office stagger the imagination. its potential for good or evil smothers infiltration and converts sanity to prayer. i have asked the merciful father to lift this cup from me. but from such dread responsibility, one does not shrink in fear, in self-interest or in false humility. so if this cup may not pass from me, i drink it, thy will be done. [cheers and applause] my heart has been troubled that i could not seek it in good conscience, that i would not seek it in honest self-appraisal is not to say that i value it the less. rather it is that i revere the office of the presidency of the united states. [cheers and applause] i will fight to win that office with all my heart and my soul. [cheers and applause] with your help, i have no doubt that we will win. you have summoned me to the highest mission within the gifts of any people. i could not be more proud. better men than i were at hand for this mighty task, and i owe it to you an

i found one spot in illinois that's 32 degrees. it's 40 in chicago. if the cities are in the 40s, the burbs are in the 30s. it's a chilly morning in new england too where the cities are in the 50s. there's only one wet area. upper level low sitting there spinning out there in areas of nevada. still kicking showers through salt lake city and up here through southern idaho. that's the only damp weather out there. in south florida, we had periods of wet weather this weekend. should be a little bit better today down there in miami. but with 87, still kind of humid, we could spark a storm there or two. but otherwise, after the chilly start, going to be a beautiful fall afternoon in many locations. that's a look at your national forecast. now here's a look at the weather outside your window. today in areas like philadelphia, starting off chilly. definitely some layers, maybe a light coat. but you'll carry it home this afternoon. sunshine and highs in the low 70s. there are some warm spots, if not hot spots, from oklahoma city to arizona. nice quiet weather

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missouri and illinois, bracing for impact. they'll get up to six inches of rain this holiday weekend. >> 25 bags of sand will help out, hopefully. >> reporter: and the aftermath in louisiana, catastrophic. an eerie sight in braithwaite, uprooted tombs lining the area. a horrible scene, leaving folks lucky to be alive. >> that tree right there fell right behind my r.v. and i was in it. that tree right there would have killed me. >> reporter: we hitched a ride through jean lafitte, louisiana. people here swamped by water and emotion. >> it's horrible to see anything you worked for just gone. >> reporter: and on the east side of the mississippi, plaquemines parish is littered with debris, displaced boats and displaced people. >> i lost my home in oakdale. we rebuilt here. that's strike two. waiting on strike three. >> reporter: officials at one gulf coast power company says isaac is the fourth-largest storm in terms of power outages, ever. the number overnight, still over 400,000. and although hundreds of thousands will spend the

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tried the same experiment in illinois. didn't bring in the revenue they thought. do you think down the line though, somebody will have a scorecard and say this is what you thought it would bring in but it didn't happen? >> well they will have to, melissa. so initially, you're absolutely right. initially when you raise taxes, remember we're halfway through a tax year. so you can't, you can't move today and not claim you earned that money in france. so people will have to pay higher taxes this year. so they might have a little bit better of a budget over the next 12, maybe, 18 months. but after this, things start to fall apart. but more importantly, businesses are going to see growth slow down and they're going to have to lay off workers. this is where the polls and the politics starts to work against the president. melissa: i worry this is where it comes home to the u.s. because immediately today all across the news when people were reporting this story i say in france the top income bracket will pay 75%. that compares to 35% in the u.s. comparatively that looks sm

oh, thank god. >> the scene here at the will county courthouse in joliet, illinois is much quieter. no more jeers or cheering but to the family members of kathleen savio it was her voice that spoke the loudest. >> she spoke from the grave. she came alive again. she came back and said look, this man did it to me. >> never believing aunt kitty drown after a fall in her tub, march 2004 charlie dolman watched as his frustrated mother and other relatives tried in vain to convince authorities to investigate kathleen savio's death. >> nobody wanted to listen. >> tragically it wasn't until the highly publicized disappearance of drew's fourth wife stacy peterson three years last the fact that authorities began to listen. >> in the begining that we said and we showed you guys my mom had that she tried to show anybody and everybody and nobody wanted to see it. >> do you think that she knew what was coming? that she knew that her life was at risk? >> most definitely. she said it many, many, many times to many, many, many people. she knew. she didn't know when, where or how but you she knew. >>

missouri and illinois, bracing for impact. they'll get up to six inches of rain this holiday weekend. >> 25 bags of sand will help out, hopefully. >> reporter: and the aftermath in louisiana, catastrophic. an eerie sight in braithwaite, uprooted tombs lining the flooded area. a horrible scene, leaving folks lucky to be alive. >> that tree right there fell right behind my r.v. and i was in it. that tree right there would have killed me. >> reporter: we hitched a ride through jean lafitte, louisiana. people here swamped by water and emotion. >> it's horrible to see anything you worked for just gone. >> reporter: and on the east side of the mississippi, plaquemines parish is littered with debris, displaced boats and displaced people. >> i lost my home in oakdale. we rebuilt here. that's strike two. waiting on strike three. >> reporter: officials at one gulf coast power company says isaac is the fourth-largest storm in terms of power outages, ever. the number overnight, still over 400,000. and although hundreds of thousands will s

the state of illinois raised taxes across the board. it's still broke and it's debt been downgraded again. nevertheless, its governor pat quinn has a prominent speaking role at the democrat's convention. he will speak tonight. the city of chicago, broke. it actually has its own debt clock. nevertheless its teachers threaten to strike next week, they will not tolerate merit pay and won't work longer hours. the citizens of chicago, they are killing each other in record numbers but the chicago police will send officers to charlotte north carolina to protect the convention. emmanuel has to leave the dnc early so he can deal with this crisis back home. this crisis a all about money. illinois tried the conventional tax and spend policies. they failed. that state is now the poster child for state insolvency, bankruptcy by any other name. chicago, the city overwhelmed with retiree pensions. it has its own pension debt clock, on the hook for 21.3 billion dollars. clearly they cannot pay that. and here we are that state and that city playing a pr