. >> when you all grandma in braska the nsa knows. john: the president says you have nothing to worry about. >>>> nobody is listening to your telephone calls. john: government officials do like. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all? >> no. john: my fellow lertarians are mad at me. they say, i am not angry enough. >> you know, i don't think this is john stossel. i thinit is an impostor. john: i'm angrier than she is >> i don't mind. it's not like it will be on tmz. john: big brother and privacy. that's our show tonight. -7♪ >> and now john stossel. ♪ john: 65ears ago, that novel struck a chord. ople feared the future would bring government spying on us through telescreens that were erywhere, even in our bedrooms. big brother was watching. when computers became popular people feared that the internet would become government's way of controlling s. we libertarians said, no, the opposite is true. the internet and personal computer revolution is have freed us from all kinds of governnt contro. it did, but lately we learn abo

nsa. jeff joins us now. congressman cummings how do you propose to define the nsa? >> thank you for having me on, charles. what we are going to have is the department of defense appropriations bill that will define the nsa's collection of american records, targeted at that which is unconstitutional. >> when these agencies get money, all funding, you can actually go and say this particular part of your operation you can no longer do or we will no longer fund the. >> that is right, the language is tailored to prohibit them from using us for that particular purpose. charles: can we say legally do what they have done is unconstitutional? anyone that i know believes it is unconstitutional. it can we say it is an improvement and therefore we are going to defunded? >> yes, it is unconstitutional. they are going into the phone records of every american in the united states. there is no precedent in history. sometimes they like to set a court case that is not really on point at all but is clearly i

from into the nsa. jeff joins us now. congressman cummings how do you propose to define the nsa? >> thank you for having me on, charles. what we are going to have s the department of defense appropriations bill that will define the nsa'sollection of american records, targeted at that which is unconstitutional. >> when these agencies get money, all funding, you can actually go and say this particular part of your operation you can no longer do or we will no longer fund the. >> that is right, the language is tailored to prohibit them from using us for that particular purpose. charles: can we saylegally do what they have done is unconstitutional? anyone that i know believes it is unconstitutional. it can we say it is an improvement and therefore we are ing to defunded? >> yes, it is unconstitutional. they are going into the phone records of every american in the united states. there is no precedent in history. sometimes they like to set a court case that is not really on point at all but is clearly in viol

llu: the head of nsa said exactly that directed to the congress of the united states, talking about the lasting damage , the significant damage. at this point what does this administration have available to it to seek out, find, and return him justice for her -- wherever he ma be? >> they should go to the russian spirit the part of the problem is this is a pattern. no one feels they will be tough enough to do anything, but they could go to the russians as to the missile shield, a goodwill gesture, we are rethinking that policy. we can also get to them and say, you want american health and technology. the eastern siberian. you know, we won't do any of this because of the way you're treating yes. it's a slap in the face. lou: my hope, if i may add this to the brew here. my hope would be that we he intelligence assets such that we would noteed to go through diplomatic channels but we would exact, ifou will, a certain amount of justice on the behalf of the united states that is appropriate. i will leave it in those terms. thank you very much. scandals ept in the obama administration. the ir

nsa came out under his administration. high said this was laid out to search for terrorists, civil liberty remain in tact, but what happened to nsa program since its inception under bush? >> the -- with the advent of technology changing it had to have been kept up with technology. certainly there is nothing senator obama would not have liked better as possible to dismantle patriot act, and fiso act, he did everything but. once you sit in that chair, and take your ocea oath of office, u realize how important that fiso act is. he has improved on it, it was china and russia who disrespected the united states and the president with snowden. lori: thank you very much gentlemen. >> thank you very much. >> that is it, for "lou dobbs tonight," thank you for joining me. neil: ain't that rich, the leaker is looking like a loser, when it comes to countries offering snowden asylum. iit is comes to something more important, american consumer, not personal, just business, that is why so many countries are saying no to ed, they realize o

llu: the head of nsa said exactly that directed to the congress of the united states, talking about the lasting damage , the significant damage. at this point what does this administration have available to it to seek out, find, and return him to justice for her -- wherever he may be? >> they should go to the russian spirit the part of the problem is this is a pattern. no one feels they will be tough enough to do anything, but they could go to the russians as to the missile shield, a goodwill gesture, we are rethinking that policy. we can also get to them and say, you want american health and technology. the eastern siberian. you know, we won't do any of this because of the way you're treating yes. it's a slap in the face. lou: my hope, if i may add this to the brew here. my hope would be that we have intelligence assets such that we would not need to go through diplomatic channels but we would exact, if you will, a certain amount of justice on the behalf of the united states that is appropriate. i will leave it in those terms. thank you very much. scandals erupt in the obama administra

llu: the head of nsa said exactly that directed to the congress of the united states, talking about the lasting damage , the significant damage. at this point what does this administration have available to it to seek out, find, and return him to justice for her -- wherever he may be? >> they should go to the russian spirit the part of the problem is this is a pattern. no one feels they will be tough enough to do anything, but they could go to the russians as to the missile seld, a goodwill gesture, we are rethinking that policy. we can also get to them and say, you want american health and technology. the eastern siberian. you know, we won't do any of this because of the way you're treating yes. it's a slap in t face. lou: my hope, if i may add this to the brew here. my hope would be that we hav intelligence assets such thate would not need to go through diplomatic channels but we would exact, if you will, a certain amount o justi on the behalf of the united states t that is appropriate. i will leave it in those terms. thank you very much. scandals erupt in the obama administration. th

llu: the head of nsa said exactly that directed to the congress of the united states, talking about the lasting damage , the significant damage. at this point what does this administration have available to it to seek out, find, and return him to justice for her -- wherever he may be? >> they should go to the russian spirit the part of t problem is this is a pattern. no one feels they will be tough enough to do anything, but they could go to the russians as to the missile shield, a goodwill gesture, we are rehinking that policy. we can also get to them and say, you want amecan health and technology. the eastern siberian. you know, we won't do any of this because of the way you're treating yes. it's a slap in the face. lou: my hope, if i may add this to the brew here. my hop would be that we have intelligence assets suc that we would not need to go through diplomatic channels but we would exact, if you will, a certain amount of justice on the behalf of the united stateshat is appropriate. i will leave it in those terms. thank you very much. scandals erupt in the obama administration. the

with the amendment voted down army given that nsa so much control? i think some republicans are brave enough to go against the establishment. lou: what you talking about? bid is to go, microsoft go, microsoft, facebook, they are gathering more information with the health care company's nsa tries to keep up with these son of a gun as. [laughter] >> we need to revisit all privacy laws. i am for protecting your homeland by any means this is -- necessary. lou: you sounded like you were not including us. [laughter] eighty-four being with us. up next, the president turns his focus on the economy and the markets finished lower are the two related? next. you cabe more confident in your ability to be ready. and the samech only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed andsymptoms of bph like needing to go freqntly or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and mecations, and ask if your heart is healthy engh for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drin

the nsa so much control over personal information? i think that some republicans are brave enough, brad, to go against the establishment and standing for our rights. >> what are you talking about? angela, the establishment is google. it's microsoft. it's facebook. they're gathering more information, personal information, private as are the health care companies. my lord, nsa is trying to keep up with these slick son of a guns. >> what we need to do is revisit all privacy laws, lou. they should not have access to our information. i'm for protecting our homeland by any means necessary. but we're innocent people and they're getting our information. >> you're sounding like you weren't including brad and me in that innocent people. angela, thanks for being with us, brad blakeman, thank you. >>> we take a look at how a piece of work written almost two decades ago accurately predicted what is today's society. the award winning novelist of voltaires bass tards, john ralston saul. he's a heck of a prognosticator, too. next. at a dry cleaner, w

nsa came out under his administration. high said this was lai out to search for terrorists, civil liberty remain in tact, but what happened to nsa program since its inception under bush? >> the -- with the advent of technology changing it had to have been kept up with technology. certainly there is nothing senatorbama would notave liked better as possible to diantle patriot act, and fiso act, he did everything but. once you sit in that chair, and take your ocea oath of office, u realize how important that fiso act is. he has improved on it, it was china and russia who disrespected the united states and the president with snowden. lori: thank you very much gentlemen. >> thank you very much. ♪ [ villain ] well mr. baldwin... it appears our journey has come to a delightful end. then i better use the capital one purchase erar to redm my venture miles for this trip. purchase erase it's the easy way to erase any recent travel expense. i just pk a charge, like my flight with a few taps, 's taken care of. impressive baldwin. doe

. >> german prosecutors are investigating if laws were broken when they signed on systems using the nsa program that collects overseas internet data and on both sides of the atlantic. >> we must say very clearly eavesdropping on friends is unacceptable. we are not in cold war anymore. the at the state department defined intelligence community data collection on his allies as routine. >> as we had a kinof intelligence we gather, something other nations do as well. >> snowden sent a letter to ecuadorian president claiming he is being persecuted by the u.s. government for the leaks and thanks him for considering his asylum extradition and the temporary paperwork allowed him to travel from hong kong to russia. he is free to treeview more secrets and henten to do so toght the justice department said thei there wting to authenticate that letter before the comment any further. >> thank you. fox news digital politics editor and stephen hayes senior writer for the weekly standard and fox news contributor. chris, t this one thing to spy n terrace, but now we are gathering economic value from our

llu: the head of nsa said exactly that directed to the congress of the united states, talking about the lasting damage , the significant damage. at this point what does this administration have available to it to seek out, find, and return him to justice for her -- wherever he may be? >> they should go to the russian spirit the part of the problem is this is a ptern. no one feelshey will be tough enough to d anything, but they could go to the russians as to e missile shield, a goodwill gesture, we are rethinking that policy. we can also get to them and say, you want american health and technology. the eastern siberian. you know, we won't do any of this becse of the way you're treating yes. it's a slap in the face. lou: my hope, if i may add this to the brew here. my he would be that we have telligence assetsuch that we would not need to go through diplomatic channels but we would exact, if you will, a certain amount of justice on the behalf of the united states that is appropriate. i will leave it in those terms. thank you very much. scandals erupt in the obama administration. the irs u

llu: the head of nsa said exactly that directed to the congress of the united states, talking about the lasting damage , the significant damage. at this point what does this administration have available to it to seek out, find, and return him to justice for her -- wherever he may be? >> they should go to the russian spirit the part of the problem is this is a pattern. no one feels they will be tough enough to do anything, but they could go to the russians as to the missile shield, a goodwill gesture, we are rethinking that policy. we c also get to them and say, you want american health and technology. the eastern siberian. you know, we won't do any of this because of the way you're treating yes. it's a slap in the face. lou: my hope, if i may add this to the brew here. my hope would be that we have intelligence assets such that we would not need to go through diplomatic channels but we would exact, if you will, a certain amount of justice on the behalf of the united states that is appropriate. i will leave it in those terms. thank you very much. scandals erupt in the obama administrati

. >> they claim the former nsa contractor is not helping moscow. >> he never was and today is not, or special services have never worked with him and don't work with him. >> even moving in the right direction. speaker has been high-level discussions with the russians about trying to find a solution to the problem. >> publishing documents, the guardian newspaper says nsa has targeted 38 embassies including those of the european union in washington and new york. century of state john kerry down the ramifications i that he was working with chief representatives. >> they raised it with me today, and we agreed to stay in touch. finding out what the organization is and we get back to her. >> german prosecutors are investigating if laws were broken when they signed on systems using the nsa program that collects overseas internet data and on both sides of the atlantic. >> we must say very clearly eavesdropping on friends is unacceptable. we are not in cold war anymore. the at the state department defined intelligence community data collection on his allies as routine. >> as we had a kind of i

he's involving now on nsa. now he's trying to bring bush into the issue. >> let's talk about another evolution and at's marco rubio. my gosh! >> you're on fire tonight. >> i'm sorry? >> i said you're on fire tonight. >> not me, i sit here and the world washes over me. here's marco rubio talking about how great the bill is and personally saying the border patrol is t light and it won't work this way and won't pass. >> i think he is being consistent. >> i can't w to hearhis construction. >> ie listened to you for years. the fact of the matter is if you don't get theorder security pie straight -- it not a talking point, it's the uth. if we have comprehensi immigration reform a we've got ten points we agree , if you ha no ability to secure the border, what's going to happen? in a few years if you have no secure border, we're going to be negotiating over instead of a five-year-old penalty, make it four. in the end, you've got no secure border. you've got nothing the end. >>f ever anyonn w preaching to the cir, it is

michelle, where do you stand on ed snowden leaking the nsa secrets. >> i think that he needs to come back and face the charges. i of you do an act of civil disobeence or you're a who isle blower, have the courage to stay and face the charges. i don't think we should take it out on russia, and ruin the olympics for all the people would worked to hard to get the opportunity to go there. i don't think we should take it out on russia and use the olympics as a diplomatic tool. >> yesterday a caller said the department of justice will not seek the death penalty in the ed snowden case. should that be enough for him to come back or would you like to hear more? >> i feel bad for him. he has to live in russia right now. and i already boycott russia. i don't inve there i don't travel there. the per capita income she thousand. it's 50,000 in the u.s. i feel bad he is not able to live in this great country. but i don't think boycotting russia is the best idea, ishe right idea. it just hurts people who want to buy caviar, volunteered da and nesting dolls. russia is a thug, not a military threat. >

with the amendment voted down army given that nsa so much control? i think some republicans are brave enough to go against the establishment. lou: what you talking about? bid is to go, microsoft go, microsoft, facebook, they are gathering more information with the health care company'snsa tries to keep up with these son of a gun as. [laughter] >> we need to revisit all privacy laws. i am for protecting your homeland by any means this is -- necessary. lou: you sounded like yo were not including us. [laughter] eighty-four being with us. up next, the president turns his focus on the economy and the markets finished lower are the two related? next. announcer: where can an investor be a name and not a number? scottrade. ron: i'm never alone with scottrade. i can always call or stop by my local office. they're nearby and ready to help. so when i have questions, i can talk to someone who knows exactly how i trade. because i don't trade like everody. i trade like me. that's why i'm with scottrade. anuncer:cottrade- proud to be ranked "best overall client exp

michelle, where do you stand on ed snowden leaking the nsa secrets. >> i think that he needs to come back and face the charges. i of you do an act of civil disobedience or you're a who isle blower, have the courage to stay and face the charges. i don't think we should te it out on russia, and ruin the olympics for all the people would worked to hard to get the opportunity to go there. i don't think we should take it out on russia and use the olympics as a diplomatic tool. >> yesterday a caller said the department of justice will not seek the death penalty in the ed snowden case. should that be enough for him to come back or would you like to hear me? >> i feel bad for him. he has to live in russia right now. and i i already boycott russia. i don't invest there ion't travel there. the per capita income she thousand. it's 50,000 in the u.s. i feel bad he is not able to live in this great country. but i don't think boycotting russia is the best idea, is the right idea. it justple who want to buy caviar, volunteered da and nesting dolls. russia is a thug, not a military that. >> let's ta

re [laughter] >> the nsa leaker. hero or trader? people are making up they're minds early and it depends mak on who you ask. some strange political bedfellows in the "chalk talk" ♪ >>> you know, we lou: we really don't know very much at all about 29 year-old that leaker edward snowden of the nsa. we have heard him described as a hero, a trader, a whistle-blower, public service, a fugitive, criminal even as some call him a bad boyfriend becker the you can tell where someone stands by the the letter following there name in washington d.c. but this is not been the case for snowden. the first calling him a traitor. first by the speaker of the house, boehner can now to a flat out he is a traitor for showing our enemies what our capabilities are in surveillance for cody is a republican but as senator feinstein she shares his view in says he committed ane act of treasonna.mitt the same goes for homeland security committee member and former chairman peter king who says snowden is a danger to the nation and president obama, here he is 2013

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it's already been demonstrated twice within the last year. >> the idea that you would not pant nsa to collect intelligence, data, information to protect its -- the security of data that's not collected seems to me to be a bit of a stretch if i may say, congressman. this would impair one of the most important intelligence agencies the country from doing its job and by the way, the congress of the united states, the senate of the united states has checked off on each one of these programs that's been at issue because of e snowden leaks, our congress has bebeen given an opptunity to raise objection and to approve each of those programs. >> you're right. that's what we're doing again. we're looking at the program. i have a difference of opinion, so do some of the authors, even the man who helped write the bill said it's gone too far. the post articulated correctly, this is a violation of 4th amendment. 's searching for records and things that haven't really been processed under due process. the amendment simplytated that it should be targeting those which they're investigating, which they

you know, inadequate answer to nsa, irs, benghazi. now you use these organizations as political tools, it's amazing. i think there's a lot of optimism on wall street and other places that maybe this will put the cabosh on some of these anti-business things the president is pushing through. >> what do you think? >> i'm an old fuddy duddy. >> no, you're not. i'an old fuddy duddy. you're like the anti-fuddy duddy. >> yeah, you are. in terms of like -- i have no expectation of privacy. but we have an entire generation of people who are growing up using cial media. and i think that they are utterly shocked by this national security agency collection of phone records in a way that older generations are not. i think that if you have people reting that way to greater

what disappointing is the nsa never looked at the other case and said hey, we need change our policy. what happened to the military could happen to us. they didn't change any policies. i pointed this out. this data, while you may want to safeguard it, easily a third world or some othe countr can access itnd it would be left to really our aistration to protect our data. i don't think we should be collecting it beecause other people may have easy access to it. it's already been demonstrated twice within the last yer. >> the idea that you would not pant nsa to collect intelligence, ta, information to protect its -- the security of data that's not collected seems to me to be a bit of a stretch if i maysay, congressman. this would impair one of the st important intelligence agencies in the country from doing its job and by the way, the congress of the united states, the senate of the united states has checked off on each one of these programs that's been at issue because of the snowden leaks, our congress has been given an opportunity to raise objection and to approve each o those programs

the nsa so much control over personal information? i think that some replicans are brave enough, brad,to go against the establhment and standing for ourrights. >> what are you talking about? angela, the establishment is google. it's microsoft. it's facebook. they're gathering more information, personal information, private as are the health care companies. my lord, nsa is trying to keep up with ese slick son of a guns. >> what we need to do is revisit all privacy laws, lou. they should not have access to our information. i'm for protecting our homeland by any means nessary. but we're innocent people and they're getting our information. >> you're sounding like you weren't including brad and in that innocent people. angela, thanks for being with us, brad blakeman, thank you. >>> we take a look at how a piece of work written almost two decades ago accurateredicted what is today's society. the award winning novelist of voltaires bass tards, john ralston saul. he's a heck of a prognosticator, too. too. next. are you flo? yes. is this the t

you know, inadequate answer to nsa, irs, benghazi. now you use these organizations as political tools, it's amazing. i think there's a lot of optimism on wall street and other places that maybe this will put the cabosh on some of these anti-business things the president is pushing through. >> what do you think? >> i'm an old fuddy duddy. >> no, you're not. i'an old fuddy duddy. you're like the anti-fuddy duddy. >> yeah, you are. in terms of like -- i have no expectation of privacy. but we have an entire generation of people who are growing up using cial media. and i think that they are utterly shocked by this national security agency collection of phone records in a way that older generations are not. i think that if you have people reting that way to greater bigger government, that will be ultimately be a good thing because maybe those people in washington will be forced to shrink it. because i don't think young people think the government wil be there for them when they're retired like in the form of social security. >> well, i will

you know, inadequate answer to nsa, irs, benghazi. now you use these organizations as political tools, it's amazing. i think there's a lot of optimism on wall street and other places that maybe this will put the cabosh on some of these anti-business things the president is pushing through. >> what do you think? >> i'm an old fuddy duddy. >> no, you're not. i'm an old fuddy duddy. you're like the anti-fuddy duddy. >> yeah, you are. in terms of like -- i have no expectation of privacy. but we have an entire generation of people who are growing up using social media. and i think that they are utterly shocked by this national security agency collection of phone records in a way that older generions are not. i think that if you have people reacting that way to greater government, bigger government, that will be ultimately be a good thing because maybe those people in washington will be forced to shrink it. because i don't think young people think the government will be there for them when they're retired like in the form of social security

. ♪ charles: nsa snooping continues. lawmakers on capitol hill today pushing to cut funding for that agency. cisco is spending $2.7 million on a cybersecurity firm. they say that cybersecurity is big business and everybody wants in. monica crowley and chris is here as well. >> well, i think people are very concerned about not only hackers, but also what we have seen with the nsa surveillance program. it is a smart move for cisco to go ahead and purchase the company. again, it is big business. i think that what you are seeing is that consumers are concerned. hackers are getting into the social network. we are seeing it being more targeted to consumers and private companies are also concerned about sensitive information. charles: does this speak to the information that people have sort of given up on the idea that the government can protect us from this stuff? >> there is a lot of data out there to be col> there is a lott theee to be collected about our activities and my styles and interest. things that we do. the real con

we'll be careful and it issed kind of wiretaps are not what you are reading about in the data and the nsa, and these wiretaps are resulted from a court and these are the wiretaps that are used to listen in on mobsters that are brought down by the wiretappers and now we are focused on terrorist, not just generally gathering material. >> let me have a quick follow-up with rick unger. the court is a cowed of being a rubber stamp and going back to '79, they approved all of the surveillance request. and so what is the check and balances and paying for the information and there may be nominal fees. i think there should be a attorney representing the people. for important. those are not the media data. this is when there is a reason to go after them. if that is worth the money, you tell me? ift is breaking the law it is. >> to rick's point, we live in an age of nuclear terrorism and biosfoer. >> no one can trust the president of the united states. >> i trust him. >> you look at a p wiretaps and benghazi and deceptions of obama care and irs scandal. what you need is someone which would be the pre

we'll be careful and it issed kind of wiretaps are not what you are reading abo in the data and the nsa, and these wiretaps are resulted from a court and these are the wiretaps that are used to listen in on mobsters that are brought down by the wiretappers and now we are focused on terrorist, not just generally gathering material. >> let me have a quick follow-up with rick unger. the court is a cowed of being a rubber stamp and going back to '79, they approved all of the surveillance request. and so what is the check and balances and paying for the information and there may be nominal fees. i think there should be a attorney representing the people. for important. those are not the media data. this is when ere is a reason to go after them. if that is worth the money, you tell me? if it is breaking the law it is. >> to rick's point, we live in an age of terrorism and biosfoer. >> no one can trust the president of the united states. >> i trust him. >> you look at a p wiretaps and benghazi and deceptions of obama care and irs scandal. what you need is someone which would be the president,

it cou be hackers ad the nsa's new best friend. we'll talk to the company's ceo. >>> who made money today. atong last they may finally be getting their oove back. stay tuned to find out who i is. even when they say it's not it is always about money

is fading, overall nsa snooping. why at could help support for big government in d.c. that's at the bottom of the hour. but up here first, employers may have dodged the health care law for another year, but you may not be so lucky. remember this? >> if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep caused that accident. >>> delaying the employer mandate has some health care law critics rejoicing. but you may not want to do your happy dance just yet. another major health isurer says it will stop providing insurance for individuals in california. this time it's united healthcare. gary b. says this is another si sign. >> i didn't realize this. whoever put together obama it's genius, if you think about it. here is why. look, ifou're a united healthcare or you're an etna, you have to take people with pre-existingness can. that means you have one of two choices. either you take those people and then oh, my gosh, now your costs explode so you have to pass the premiums on to your healthy people or you say, forget it, i'm not going to do that. then what happens is one o

corporate security individual security, the internet, wild wild west, nsa scandal. every day we do it. symantec. i should have done this a week ago. anyway they reported earnings. as you can see the street kind of likes it. stock at a new 52-week high. because of things i just said i think it is one of the case it is would be worth chasing it down here. symantec had its share of problems. the company is still actually in sort after transition mode. poor execution for a long time. they made acquisitions, overpaid for them. i think this new management team has their act together. connell: all right. you're in, compares pretty well to the rivals at this point. they fixed up some of the issues. >> they still have some issues according to management. they're quote, right-sizing it. call it symantec 4.0. focus on mobile. integrating all the different assets much better. numbers were pretty good, africa was up 6%. up across the board. global penetration. the story is living up to the hype that used to be around this stock defend years ago. finally living up to it. i think

. >> comnies like google, facebook, apple, microsoft they get together with nsa provide nsa direct access to the back end of all of the systems you use to communicate to store data, put things in the cloud, and even just to send birthday wishes. neil: ed is still leaking but this time not government whose secrets he is revealing but big internet companies. giving nsa backdoor access to data it wants, to floria attorney general pam bundy of what she makes of this, is he right? >> first, first, no matter what we think of snowden, we have to give caution to anything he says. neil: you don't believe him? >> you know, internet companies are a denying this,. neil: they give access. but the debate is whether they gave backdoor access that is a venue you can keep getting back into. >> absolutely, the government needs that. this is a balance about living in a free society, protecting our people so we don't have another september 11, and also sacred rights of due process. freedom of information, but with snowden, we have to be cautious about he was flagrant and high was very outspoken in his allega

he's involving now on nsa. now he's trying to bring bush into the issue. >> let's talk about another evolution and that's marco ruo. my gosh! you're on fire tonight. >>'m sorry? >> i said you're on fire tonight. >> not me, i sit here and the world washes over me. here's marco rubio talking about how great the bill is and personally saying the border patrol is too light and it won't work this way a won't pass. >> i think he is being consistent. >> i can't wait to hear this construcon. >> i'vlistened to you for years. the fact of the matter is if you don't get the border security piece straight -- it not a talking point, it's the truth. if we have comprehensive immigration refond we've got ten points we agree on, if you have no ability to secure the border, what's going to happen? in a few years if you have no secure border, we're going to be negotiatinover instead of a five-year-old penalty, make it four. in the end, you've got no secure border. you've got nothing the end. >> if ever anyonn was preaching to the

he's involving now on nsa. now he's trng to bring bush into the issue. >> let's talk about another evolution and that's marco bio. my gosh! >> you're on fire tonight. >> i'm sorry? >> i said you're on fire tonight. >> not me, i sit here and the world washes over me. here's marco rubio talking about how great the bill is and personally saying the border patrol is too light and it w't work this way and won't pass. >> i think he is being consistent. >> i can't wait to hear this construction. >> i've listened to you for years. the fact of the matter isf you don't get the border security piece straight -- it not a talking point, it's the truth. if we have comprehensive immigration reform and we've got ten points we agree on, if you ha no ability to sere the border, what's going to happen? in a few years if you have no secure border, we're going to be negotiating over instead of a five-year-old penalty, make it four. in the end, you've got no secure border. you've got nothing the end. >> if ever anyonn was preaching

plus is a new nsa bombshell about to backfire on america's econy? the journalists telling me that the world will be shocked , shocked by the next shoe to drop. cashing in is startin right now. hi, everybody. welcome to "cashin in." thanks, everyone. welcome, everyone. they say timing is everything. what better time than for the white house to descrop the news that it is putting off a major deadline on the health care law penalties and what better time to push the deadline until after the mid-term elections next year. monica, you say timing, there is no secret about the timing. >> no, it is not a coincidence. this is dropping faster than the titanic. they understand, the white house understands that you have tough democrats who wrote this monstrosity. they are saying this is a train wreck and it is so complex as to be incomprehensible. they know this thing is unworkable and now they are hearing from businesses. this is s what we have been talking about for four plus years w. businesses are cutting hours. they are laying off workers. there are higher

coming up, the french are crying over this nsa spy scandal. should we care and is there more fallout to come? >> there are vast programs of both domestic and both domestic and @í0x;ñt any last requests mr. baldwin? do you mind grabbing my phone and opening the capital one purchase eraser? i ed to redeem some venture miles before my demise. okay. it's easy to erase any recent travel expense i want. just pick that flight right there. mmm hmmm. give it a few taps, and...it's taken care of. this is pretty easy, and i see it works on hotels too. you bet. now if you like that, press the red button on top. ♪ w did he not see that coming? what's in your wallet? the president of france demanding the u.s. stop spying on allies in the eu and he even said he could delay trade talks with america costing hundreds of millions of dollars. the person who broke this sthooping storytelling me we haven't heard anything yet. listen. >> there are vast programs of both domestic and international spying that the world would be shocked to learn about. >> monica,

he involving now on nsa. now he's trying to bring bush into the issue. >> let's talk about another evolution and that's marco rubio. my gosh! >> you're on fire tonight. >> i'm sorry? >> i said you're on fire tonight. >> n me, i sit here and the world washes over me. here's marco rubio talkg about how grea the bill is and personally saying the border patrol is too light and it won't work this way and won't pass. >> i think he is being consistent >> i can't wait to hear this construction. >> i've listened to you for years. the fact of the matter is if you don't get the border security pie straight -- it not a talking point,t's the truth. if we have comprehensive immigration reform and we've got ten points we agree on, if you have no ability to secure the borderwhat's going to happen? in a few years if you have no secure border, we're going to be negotiating over insad of a five-year-old penalty, make it four. in the end, you've got no secure border. you've got nothing the end. >> if ever anyonn was preaching to

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>> i did not say that i think that the nsa surveillance program is right. i said that is a discussion about the law, not the president >> i will take this up with my special guest on monday. i will not be my famous henry his second term agenda seems to off the rails. the administration is mired in scandal. it's gun-control campaign failed, immigration reform is a mess, and topping it all off, the president may be in need of a new speechwriter. an eagerly awaited foreign policy speech in berlin just two weeks ago was widely panned, even his teleprompter let him down. it was sweltering hot. he spoke by 6 inches bulletproof glass. and not so eagerly awaited speech on climate change last week

charles: from irs scandal to nsa scandal. major tech companies are still blasting the government for snooping, they urge senate to stop the nonsense. social media website read it also joining the fight. i saw this even you had, you attended where all of internet companies gotting it, and restored a 4th of july rally, in all different cities. i had not realized smaller names, you are growing but smaller names, are pushing this upushing back against this nsa thing? >> yeah it is the users of our site and restore the move. and got built up but i attended rallies in new york there were all different people, people from occupy crowd, people fromtary tappe tea party crowd. charles: a prettyic lessiv ecle? >> yes, people who were protesting since the '60s, and people who this was their first protest. charles: whoever is orchestratinn the nsa, and fix it in. >> it is getting people out of their houses, and to streets, and people who have not been active politically before, i think that says a lot. charles: were you shocked when this

>> i did not say that i think that the nsa surveillance program is right. i said that is a discussion about the law, not the preside >> i will take this up with my ecial guest on monday. i will not be my famous henry kissinger impression.

>> i did not say that i think that the nsa surveillance program is right. i said that is a discussion about the law, not the president >> i will ta this up with my special guest on monday. i will not be my famous henry kissinger impression. she has we celebrate our nation's birthday i want to share with you my favorite interviews so far this year, right here, right now. >> from fox business headquarters in new york city it is the tom sullivan show. here is your host, tom sullivan. >> thanks for joining us. the top of this that, government service started as a naval aviator than as a congressman, he ran the offe of economic opportity, he was ambassador to nato, white house chief of staff, served twice as defense secretary. if there is someo more experienced in holding office in washington i'm not sure who that would be. here's my interview with the

charles: from irs scandal to nsa scandal. majo tech companies are still blasting the government for snooping, they urge senate to stop the nonsense. cial media website read it also joining the fight. i saw this even you had, you attended where all of internet companies gotting it, and reored a 4th of july rally, in all different cities. i had not realized smaller names, you are growing but smaller names, are pushing this upushing back against this nsa thin >> yeah it is the users of our site and restore the move. and got built up but i attended rallies in new york there were all different people, people from occupy crowd, people fromtary tappe tea party crowd. charles: a prettyic lessiv ecle? >> yes, people who were protesting sincehe '60s, and people who this was their first protest. charles: whoever is orchestratinn the nsa, and fix it in. >> it is getting people out of their houses, and to streets, and people who have not been active politically bore, i think that says a lot. charles: were you shocked when this was reveale

." >> companies like google, facebook, apple, microsoft they get together with nsa provide nsa direct access to the back end of all of the systems you use to communicate to store data, put things in the cloud, and even just to send birthday wishes. neil: ed is still leaking but this time not government whose secrets he is revealing but big internet companies. giving nsa backdoor access to data it wants, to florida attorney general pam bundy of what she makes of this, is he right? >> first, first, no matter what we think of snowden, we have to give caution to anything he says. neil: you don't believe him? >> you know, internet companies are a denying this,. neil: they give access. but the debate is whether they gave backdoor access that is a venue you can keep getting back into. >> absolutely, the government needs that. this is a balance about living in a free society, protecting our people so we don't have another september 11, and also sacred rights of due process. freedom of information, but with snowden, we have to be cautious about he was flagrant and high was very outspoken in hi

>> i did not say that i think that the nsa surveillance program is right. i said that is a discussion about the law,ot the president >> i will take this up with my special guest on monday. i will not be my famous henry kissinger impression. she has we celebrate our nation's birthday i want to share with you my favorite interviews so far this year, right here, right now. >> from fox business headquarters in new york city it is the tom sullivan show. here is your host, tom sullivan. thanks for joining us. the top of this that, government service started as a naval aviator than as a congressman, he ran the office of economic opportunity, he was ambassador to nato, white house chief of staff, served twice as defense secretary. if there isomeone more experienced in holdinoffice in washington i'm not sure who that would be. here's my interview with the

>> i did not say that i think that the nsa surveillance program is right. i said that is a discussion about the law, not the president >> i will take this up with my special guest on monday. i will not be my famous henry kissinger impression. "the willis report" is next. wonderful weekend, guys. ♪ >> hi, everyone. tonight on "the willis report" the sudden l.a. with obamacare. how much trouble is this law in? the woman who had her newborn baby taken away from our periodic she failed a drug test after she ate at poppy seed bagel. we will buy into that cake. have you heard? made in the u.s. a is making a comeback. one business to find out they're making it big by making it here. ♪ tracy: these stories are coming up, but we begin with the big jobs report and what it means for all of us. the economy added 195,000 jobs in june, 30,000 more than expected. did thi

>> i did not say that i think that the nsa surveillance program is right. i said that is discussion about the law, not the president >> i will take this up withy special guest on monday. i will not be my famous henry kissinger impression. week. cheryl: well, melissa frances next. dennis: i'm dennis kneale in for melissa francis. here is what is "money" tonight. does it really counts? of billion dollar u.s. aid package, soaring oil prices, and the threat of contagion. we have new details on how the dominoes may fall. plus, you probably heard about the june jobs report, but they're is a piece of it-and stop everyone cold. we will tell you what its. he may "money" today? electrifying demand and one of the world' hottest markets. stay tuned to find that today's speed read even when they say nay, it's always about "money." ♪

or requested to give information over to the nsa whether back door channels or what have you, to quote mr. snowden, how many were constantly complying with that? in other words, constantly offering it? >> well, neil, that's a big question, and it's somethinge don't know. and that's why the companies shown b pressuring finish should be pressuring the government to release information microsoft and google filed motion in the fisa court to be able to speak publicly about the kinds of requests it gets and the kinds it complies with. that's entirely appropriate. we believe that even more information should be released about the kinds of data that the government's requesting, the authorities it's requesting it under and how many customers are affected by these orders. that's something the public is clearly entitled to know, and it's good to see the companies now competing on these privacy matters because they know that customers care, and they know it to their advantage to protect the privacy interests of their customers. neil: brett, thank you very much. also have to watch republicans. when