conway has a strategy to get back on track -- quote, pivot to substance. >> when we put it on all on the field, where people saw the difference substantively, than win a campaign based on style. >> this brings us to trump's interview with bill o'reilly on the exact staub substantive details conway was talking any and almost in realtime he seemed to be climbing the learning curve on immigration policy. >> the actual seizure of human beings, taking them from their

look, kellyanne conway is a very

amy, tbd, that's what kellyanne conway said but also the trump camp is saying he didn't say anything new in the meeting with hispanic supporters that he hasn't said before. either way it's confusing. does donald trump have to do a better job of explaining where he is on this issue? >> i believe he's going to come out with an immigration policy from the reports i've heard this