. >> reporter: deputy attorney general rod rosenstein asserting that special counsel robert mueller can investigate any crimes during the scope of the investigation during an interview on fox news. >> if it's something outside that scope, he needs to come to the acting attorney general, at this time, me, for permission to expand his investigation. >> reporter: "the new york times" reporting that mueller's investigators have asked the white house for documents related to fired national security adviser, michael flynn, and possible payments from the turkish government. the president also tweeted just a little while ago something that appears to be his own take on possible contenders for the white house in 2020. he says the failing "new york times," which has made every wrong prediction about me, including my big election win, apologized, it's totally inept. and the president also tweeted he's going back to new york next week, which would be only the second time he's been in the city since he was inaugurated. brianna and chris, back to you. >> and this is a little bit of an impressive show

in his order rosenstein charged mueller with investigating quote any links and or coordination between the russian government and the individuals associated with the campaign of donald trump, as well as any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation. in subsequent testimony on capitol hill, rosenstein made it clear he would protect mueller from any undue interference from the administration. >> if president trump ordered you to fire the special counsel, what would you do? >> senator, i'm not going to follow any orders unless i believe those are lawful and appropriate orders. under the regulation special counsel mueller may be fired only for good cause and i am required to put that cause in writing. if it were not good cause, it wouldn't matter to me what anybody else. >> deposit general rod rosenstein saying in june that robert mueller could only be fired for good cause. this weekend he defended robert mueller again. appearing on sunday's show he said mueller could investigate any crimes he encovuncovered. >> we don't engage in fishing expeditions. if he finds evid

you menged earlier, mathew, rosenstein may have to step in and pull back the reins if mueller goes too far. imagine if that were to happen. imagine if the president were to make good on his threat, a hy r hyperbolic as it may have been intended, don't go afl mafter m money, that's too far, what would happen in this situation, the optics of rosenstein saying to mueller saying, "stop doing that," or the president saying, "mueller's gone too far, step in," what would it mean? >> it would be a complete political con n political problem in washington d.c. we cannot have prosecutors, you know, the prosecutor that just pursues whatever they want to pursue without any relation horsepower to the people ultimately. >> i hear somewhere in new york a man named bill clinton, a former president going, amen, brother, amen. mr. flannery, what is the other side of that though in terms of what mathew is saying this would be abusive of the kuconstitutio if they were overreaching. the reason i bring up president clinton, who knows better than him? we got to monica lewin sky when we started with a land tra

rosenstein flipped the script on his boss, saying trump's claims were basically fake news. the deputy attorney general made it clear the russia probe is no fishing expedition. >> the department of justice, we don't engage in fishing expeditions. >> in the course of his investigation of the issues that he is looking at, if he finds evidence of a crime, can he look at that? >> chris, if he finds evidence of a crime it's within the scope of what director mueller and i have agreed is the scope of the investigation. >> that scope, we know now, includes following the money trail to mike flynn. with the report over the weekend, mueller asking the white house for documents on flynn and asking witnesses whether flynn was secretly paid by the turkish government while advising this domestic american presidential campaign. now, obviously the most transparent way to respond to these requests is to simply pledge cooperation and move on. but to be fair to the white house, some presidents also try to counterattack the prosecutors. let's be clear, today donald trump went much further, sugge

i'm talking about rod rosenstein. he stands by his decision to appoint him. he was the one who appointed him back in may to this job. i'm told by people in the justice department and elsewhere if the president asked rod rosenstein to fire mueller without cause, that he would leave if he was put in a situation like that. >> matt, is it possible that if, you know, mueller in the course of this investigation discovers some sort of shady dealing that has nothing to do with russia or with the election that happened years before, that they could move forward on that? >> look, think about whitewater. it started out with an investigation into some real estate deals and we ended up with the monica lewinsky scandal. i can understand why the president's lawyers are trying to narrow the scope. going back to the electronic trail, i should have mentioned this, beyond the e-mails, we've seen from don jr., there are intercepts, there are intelligence that we know goes back to last summer that involves russian officials talking about manafort, russian officials talking about

rod rosenstein who is the deputy attorney general is in charge of this investigation. if rod rosenstein felt that mueller was out of control and spending money wiley and impaling a grand jury without justification is not necessary, you would see rod rosenstein say slow down. to get the political people involved at this point, it's basically saying, we don't like this investigation. i remember when people hadç questions earlier and coming up with issuing statements. it looked like something was being done to undercut the power of this investigation. >> sandra: someone has to look out for the taxpayer, right? >> melissa: absolutely. number one, when to start these, they get bigger and number to call, they don't result in anything happening. they may come out with this finding there is no point and starting them and there'sç no point in stopping them. i've watched so many now. >> marie: clinton got impeached because of one. >> melissa: there is a lot different since then. >> harris: what would we expect the special counsel to tell us in public about his investigation?

reporter: rosenstein made it clear he believes this is not a fishing expedition. he says if the special counsel finds any crime outside the scope he will have to seek permission to do that. as for the stleeks jeff sessions vowed to crack down on. rosenstein says the justice department has seen a surge in referrals about leaks during the trump administration. and here is how he explained how they would decide if and when to recommend prosecution. >> you look at the facts and circumstances. what was the potential harm caused by the leaks. we identify somebody no matter what their position is. if they violated the law and it warrants prosecution, we'll prosecute. chris: including white house officials and members of congress? >> anybody who breaks the law. reporter: one group coming under scrutiny were journalists. the deputy a.g. said we are after the leakers, not the journalists. arthel: there is more circulating. what are you hear being reports of a possible white house run by vice president pence in 2020? reporter: this is something the vice president's office is

i was the only member of the judiciary committee to vote against rod rosenstein's nomination to be deputy attorney general because he failed to commit to appoint a special prosecutor. i believe a special prosecutor was necessary not only to determine the full extent of russia's meddling in our democracy, but also to protect that investigation from the president's efforts to shut it down. this belief was brought into stark relief by jim comey's firing and it precipitated the appointment of rob mueller. the firing of special counsel mueller would precipitate a firestorm on both sides of the aisle. it would put the president over a precipice that likely could lead to the most drastic action possible in this democracy. that precipice can be avoided and congress must play a role in avoiding it. we are in talks across the aisle about action that can be taken to provide a check and a firewall against that kind of firing, drastic action that would put the president over that precipice politically and morally and legally. and my hope is also the new chief of staff, general kelly, will add a voice

we need to go to deputy rosenstein. he said there's no issue here and is happy with the scope of the investigation. mueller hasn't come close to exceeding by looking into the financial issues. >> michael, whether he's supposed to go there or not, what does it tell you that finances are somewhat of a focus in the investigation? >> i said for a long time, i thought following the money was going to be an aspect of the issue of whether or not there were links and coordination between the russian government and trump members of the campaign and also as it relates to matters that arose or might arise out of that coordination. i think the question of, was there a financial motive that underpinned the behavior of the trump campaign or the presidency of the trump matter with respect to sanctions is relevant. if it turns out it is completely unrelated, say they found tax evasion and nothing related to russia, then the mueller mandate is clear, and the regulation that is govern his behavior are clear, he refers it back to doj, and

and so if the president orders rosenstein to fire mueller without cause and rosenstein declines to do that or does it because he feels he has an obligation to the president to do that, then i think we're until constitutional crisis mode. and john can talk well about constitutional crisis modes where you start firing special counsel. >> so, john, the president also commented on the investigations on the hill. the investigation, you know, from all the different committees into all things russia. and he talked extensively about it. here is the conclusion that he says is very clear. >> i also want the senate and the house to come out with their findings. now, judging from the people leaving the meetings, leaks -- will you tell they leave the meetings all the time and they no, we haven't found any collusion. there is no collusion. you know why? because i don't speak to russians. >> john? well, i think he's trying to dismiss the russian investigation. it's clear from this press conference also that he thinks that if russia is seen as influencing the election in any way, it soils his own vic

later, rod days rosenstein said the justice department is after the leakers, not the journalists. from washington journal, here is a conversation on what this could mean for journalists. or of reporters committee for freedom of speech the issue of freedom of the press and the trump administration, good morning to you. viewers what ind your committee is about, what you do. a nonprofit organization been around since bono legal es pro support to news organizations. host: particularly when it comes issues and access issues and those things? guest: exactly. organization in the 1970s was involved in reporter when reporter s consist maintain source relationships in the face of government subpoenas. us, the last couple of years of the obama the istration and now in trump administration with concerns about subpoenas to us back to thegs issues the organization really was started for. lot from the en a president, even the attorney general, about the idea of sources of information to the press. how do you view that, not only previously as a reporter, what do you see happening as far as this a

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rosenstein is doing something he sympatthinks it is important. he referred tremendorepeatedly the right thing and his goal was to do the right thing. >> imagine the pressure on all of these players, the fbi, special council, all of the cocounci cocouncils he has hired. here we are day 200. when we reach 300 will the them still be russia? >> there are deep concerns in the law enforcement community, in the justice department about preserving the integrity of the institution and also explaining how this is all unfolding. when you ask where we'll be in day 300, you get the sense they stepped in because attorney sessions recused himself. so by putting himself out there rosenstein is trying to better explain where this institution that may be a bit fragile because of these investigations stands. >> kellyann conway said something, the defense appears to go on offense about the team and kind of this whiff of conflict of interest. they keep saying he hired attorneys who are democratic donors. what are they saying? >> looking at the 16 attorneys he hired a

the reason is because of what rosenstein gave him, a single sentence that said, look russia investigation and what mueller's people can say, russian look at influence, we need to look at financial relationships between people.the id he influence include financial ties increased or used as leverage? mandate em with broad is that you can fit a lot under and all independent counsel or special counsel expand, tions tend to so if you start with an mbiguous mandate like this, you're going to see it expand. like gas in a closed room, if big room, gas will spread evenly in a room. this is as big a room you could mueller.n host: milwaukee, joseph watching democrats. your turn, joseph. caller: yes, my name -- my involving that of leakers leakers -- host: joseph, go ahead. yes, my comment, my 1980s,t being that in the patrick buchanan was referred to being scum.owers 1998, reagan signed whistleblower act. host: and? leakers, whate of comes, levels of -- psychologies and which way they are as far as be ing factions nonetheless within the white house? host: okay, is the whistleblower whistleblowers?r

into meddling in the presidential election was a major topic yesterday deputy attorney general rod rosenstein and lawmakers weighed in. telling chris wallace the justice department does not get involved in so-called phishing. >> and he finds evidence of the crimes of which were to mueller and i have agreed is the appropriate scope. something outside the scope they need to go to the acting attorney general for permission to expand the investigation. >> it is moving into a new face at the impaling of the grand jury so special counsel can subpoena witnesses and documents that wouldn't be taking place if there was no evidentiary basis to move forward. >> i don't see bob mueller will be fired, but also local saying they would prefer the congressional committee is finished their work, issued their report before we begin thinking about special counsel. the histories to shut counsel and prosecutors go off the rails on which ends. lauren: support is building to protect the special counsel robert mueller from potentially being fired by the president. cheryl: efa could point considering whether ken star

. >>> deputy attorney general rod rosenstein defends mueller's ongoing russia witch-hunt. >> bob mueller understands and i understand the specific scope of the investigation, so no, it's not a fishing expedition. lou: yet the special counsel continues to waste taxpayer dollars. former deputy assistant attorney general tom duprey joins me next. >>> this cyclist isn't one to follow the crowd. we'll show you the phenomenal video of his high-flying ride video of his high-flying ride ♪music ♪you fill up my senses ♪like a night in a forest ♪like the mountains in springtime♪ ♪like a walk in the rain ♪like a storm in the desert ♪like a sleepy blue ocean ♪you fill up my senses ♪come fill me again ♪come let me love you ♪let me give my life to you ♪let me drown in your laughter♪ ♪let me die in your arms ♪let me lay down beside you ♪let me always be with you ♪come let me love you ♪come love me again . lou: former attorney general loretta lynch used an e-mail alias when she plotted a response to press inquiries about her now infamous tarmac meeting with former pr

it's the duty of acting attorney general of rod rosenstein. he's not doing that. one of his problems is he has a conflict of interest, he's both prosecutor and witness in the same case. he is required under the special counsel law to recuse himself and he isn't doing it. you have mueller who should recuse himself, rod rosenstein who should recuse himself and nobody is limiting either one of them. it's part of the frustration you can viscerally feel when the president addresses the issue. >> sean: were going to stay all over this. if they're going to investigate these things, they've got to investigate hillary, they've got to investigate ukraine. the leakers? one of the code to be put in jail? they are shredding the constitution, violating the law, committing felonies. when we come back, one of president trump's attorneys jay sekulow reacts to the in paneling of a grand jury, newt gingrich weighs in and much more. ♪ oc they would talk about kansas city, kansas like... i can't wait to get out of here. through the years we lost over 30,000 people. we turned that ob

if rod rosenstein didn't do that, he would probably fire rosenstein. >> neil: like nixon. >> yes and made it worse. >> neil: so best not to think about it. >> best not to do it. >> neil: so where does this go? looking into his financial transactions. the president might have provided more fuel with meetings that we didn't know about. >> yes. and when you misrepresent things that happen, man, that sets off light bulbs in the prosecutor yeah mind. i don't know where it's going to end. i looked at the background of the mueller team. some are experts on fraud, some are experts on wire fraud. they have a bunch of expert tease there that bob mueller must feels he needs to examine what we don't know is the size of his budget and the number of fbi agents working for him. think of it this way. about fbi agents per assistant special counsel. we already have 16 special counsels. probably up to 100 fbi agents. you're talking about thousands of pages of documents and dozens of witnesses -- >> neil: this is years. >> probably. the iran contra thing went on for seven years. hope it doesn't do that.

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and then, the defense team can go to rod rosenstein, the department attorney general and say this is far beyond the mandate that you gave him. he's in business only because of your appointment. the so there are checks and balances in the system and those haven't been triggered yet. >> let me read you the key line so people know what you're talking about. it included that number 2. the any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation. the now, evan per rez who's broken many details, that they don't think they're anywhere near the outer limits of this. at the financial matters they're looking into, they say, relate to, or arose from this investigation into possible russia ties. it does seem like a fairly wide berth there, judge star, with that statement. any matters that arose or may arise from the investigation. >> it can be read in two ways, three ways. it can be read different ways. i think the gravamen of the original complaint was, was there collusion, to the extent you're moving beyond collusion with russian operatives or russian interests or the russian govern

it was written by rosenstein. it says, investigate matters which are connected to the russian government and the trump campaign and matters which arose or might arise out of those connections. so that's his mandate. so he determines how best to fulfill that mandate and if he believes that looking at financial crime may provide an explanation or motive for the behavior of people connected with the collusion as we call it investigation, then that's appropriate behavior for a special counsel. and that would be no different than the united states attorney in any district in the united states doing the exact same thing. so we just have to watch. here's the mandate. we know what it is. is he staying broadly within it or if not subject to criticism politically? >> michael zeldin, appreciate your insights. >> thank you, john. >>> and back into the conversation here. to this point. an open hand. correct? despite what the president's said? not much anybody can do about it. right? >> absolutely. he has a broad mandate. we ta

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rod rosenstein is the one who wrote that memo. every time i ask the special counsel's office, they just say, look at the memo. look at the memo. >> the memo that defines parameters? a great point. >> we don't know exactly what, why rosenstein set up the special counsel entirely. we know bits and pieces of it but don't know everything. very important to keep in mind. >> glad you added that. >>> everybody stand by. up next, lawmakers are back home for the rest of the summer. will republicans be able to convince frustrated voters that their agenda is on track? if you have medicare parts a and b and want more coverage, guess what? you could apply for a medicare supplement insurance plan whenever you want. no enrollment window. no waiting to apply. that means now may be a great time to shop for an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. medicare doesn't cover everything. and like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, these help cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. so d

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ultimately, rod rosenstein does control the scope of the vegetation of. but -- you know, what it does represent clearly is that if he were to decide not to allow bob mueller, it would naturally give rise to the question, well, who's going to investigate this? it would otherwise be the justice department and that presents a political issue, obviously one that would be disclosed. and there would be a debate about where appropriately that investigation should be pursued. connell: i know it's tough because we're on the outside, both of us are on the outside looking in. but you obviously have expertise in this area. so from what you've seen, is there anything that jumps out at you as the most series of allegations or the parts of the investigation, it the don jr. meeting or the michael flynn investigation in virginia. >> i really think it's too early to be able to gauge that and tell. i mean, i think the more significant thing that you can read into all of this is that he's assembled a staff, including a staff of lawyers. 16 by the latest count sufficient to h

rod rosenstein said, "we don't prosecute journalists for doing their job." >> president trump continues working on his vacation in new jersey. kristin fisher has more on this weekend's developments including vice president mike pence has his eyes on the oval office. >> reporter: the president taking to twitter this weekend to defend his trip to his golf club in new jersey tweeting, "working in bedminster, new jersey." this is not a vacation. meetings and calls. he addressed the leak that had been plaguing his administration by saying, "after many years of leaks going on in washington it's great to see the attorney general taking action. " rod rosenstein appeared on fox news sunday echoing the talks of prosecuting those responsible no matter who they are. >> if they violate the law that warrants prosecution then we'll prosecute them including white house officials. >> including anybody who breaks the law. >> reporter: rosenstein also addressed the ongoing russia investigation circling the administration. specifically news the special panel had empanelled a second grand jury. >> it doesn'

rosenstein rebuffs the president's commands, mr. trump could replace him with a loyalist who will follow his instructions. neither bill deals with these scenarios and yes, sir they are the likeliest avenues for mr. trump to interfere with mr. mueller's work. joining us now, coauthor of that op-ed in the new york times. also, eli, and msnbc political analyst. daniel, first of all, i want to go to this report of communication between the president and robert mueller indirectly through the president's lawyer and the president's lawyer used the phrase back and forth. in a way that is unclear. what do you make of that? what are the ethics of that? >> these are difficult words to parse. i think it would be entirely proper for the target of an investigation to have communications. with the prosecutor. and i'm glad that president trump expressed his appreciation for robert mueller. i should we should all appreciate the work robert mueller is doing. >> is it proper to have communication with the counsel, with the heard involved but to have t

deputy attorney general rod rosenstein asserting that special counsel robert mueller can investigate any crimes within the scope of the investigation during an interview on fox news.rod rosenstein:"if it's something outside that scope, he needs to come to the acting attorney general, at this time me, for permission to expand his investigation." the new york times -- reporting that mueller's investigators have asked the white house for documents related to fired national security adviser michael flynn ...and possible payments from the turkish government. ( darya ) that was joe johns reporting... and new this morning...secretary of state rex tillerson met with russian officials to talk about russian meddling in the presidential election. they met this morning at a forum in the phillipenes. tillerson says the tampering caused a rift in the relationship between russia and the united states. moscow has repeatedly denied it had nothing to with last year's election. later today, tillerson is also expected to be in a meeting with north korean officials. this comes just days after new sanctio

mike, is this rod rosenstein with a shot across the bow back at president trump who just a few weeks ago said it is a red line for me, i do not want to see this investigation touch my family businesses or anything like that? >> well, you're exactly right, and of course this isn't the president's red line to draw when special counsel mueller was announced, there was a clear statement that it was russia involvement in the elections and related matters. and as mueller's impressive team starts to pull on the threads of the sweater, the money, as you point out, is a very natural place to go. it's connected to all these questions that have been raised. it's the means and the motive for some of this. and of course this is very much what the president and the people around him, you can mostly say the president's men, really fear, because they were in new york real estate. you know new york real estate better than anyone. it's hard to come out of new york real estate, as my mother would say, smelling like a rose. >> michael, i've fot to tell you, to that exact point, you know, those who have

that left deputy attorney general rod rosenstein in charge. after the president said he was thinking of russia when he fired comey, deputy ag rosenstein made the decision to appoint a special counsel, not just any special counsel but comey's predecessor at the fbi. robert mueller was taking over the investigation. since then special counsel mueller has been methodically going about business, hiring a team of experienced lawyers, 16 and counting with extensive knowledge of corruption and criminal fraud cases. occasionally details have spilled out into the open. in june we learned that the special counsel has essentially swallowed up ongoing federal investigations into the activities of trump campaign chair paul manafort and of michael flynn. nbc news and other outlets reported that subpoenas were issued to business associates of both manafort and flynn by a federal grand jury in the eastern district of virginia. which made sense. the eastern district of virginia sits right outside washington, d.c. it handles lots of national security cases and

said,on what rosenstein we might be at that redline. betty: have we heard anything from president trump on this? >> president trump is in the middle of a 17 day stretch at his golf resort in new jersey. he has been pretty quiet and subdued on twitter since he got there. a lot of people think this might be the influence of his new chief of staff john kelly, a retired marine general. kelly has imposed new order on the white house. it seems that flows all the way to the oval office. we don't know that kelly is vetting everyone, but the president has been not on the rampage this weekend. yvonne: meeting some discipline on the twitter account. congress also on break at the moment. does that mean we are in for a quiet time in d.c., or could we see personnel decisions and policy moves when they are both away? >> that is an open question for sure. with john kelly having moved to the white house, president trump will be on the lookout for a new secretary of homeland security. that could trigger a domino effect. how heas been talk about would pos

deputy attorney general rod rosenstein, was asked about the russia probe in an interview yesterday. here's what he said. >> the special counsel is subject to the rules and regulations of department of justice. and we don't engage in fishing expeditions. >> we don't engage in fishing expeditions. joining me, former congresswoman, elizabeth holtzman, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district, barbara mcquaid, as well. so let's start with this latest -- i don't know if we would call it an expansion, but we're getting all these reports, elizabeth. you had an 18th person, lawyer to the staff. somebody who would lead you to believe that they're following the money. somebody who has experience with bribes. all the various developments that you have seen over the last couple of weeks. how significant, how is this moving, how do you view it as someone who has been on the inside of a pretty complicated investigation? >> well, let me say first that what mueller is doing is very professional, straightforward, meticulous and thorough. what he's doing is hiring the best people he can find in

that left deputy attorney general rod rosenstein in charge. after the president said he was thinking of russia when he fired comey and after comey's side of the story came out. deputy ag rosenstein made the decision to appoint a special counsel, not just any special counsel but comey's predecessor at the fbi. robert mueller was taking over the investigation. since then special counsel mueller has been methodically going about business, hiring a team of experienced lawyers, 16 and counting, with extensive knowledge of corruption and money laundering, and criminal fraud cases. occasionally details have spilled out into the open. in june we learned that the special counsel had essentially swallowed up ongoing federal investigations into the activities of trump campaign chair paul manafort and of michael flynn. nbc news and other outlets reported that subpoenas were issued to business associates of both manafort and flynn by a federal grand jury in the eastern district of virginia. which made sense. the eastern district of virginia sits right outs

host: you're talking rod rosenstein. what's the conflict? caller: the money his wife took for her election campaign from the democratic party. robert mueller is best buddies ith james comey. i wonder when they'll turn the spotlight on the democratic party and ukrainians and when we're going to investigate and put x attorney general, bill clinton in jail. the dirt is on left here and they're focusing everything on the right. hillary clinton and the uranium one deal and all the money their organization got and bill clinton speaking after he went to russia in the ukrainian deal and when you start putting the left in jail maybe i'll agree, shine a light on the right. host: you may want to stick around in 20 minutes. we'll have a guest joining us, a well known author, wrote the book "stealing america, what my experience with criminal gangs taught me about obama, hilly and the democratic party." his new book "the big lie" exposing the nazi roots of the american left. we'll talk about yesterday's news and about his new book, stopping by as he's on

the other is allowing jeff sessions to appoint rod rosenstein. two enormous mistakes that have come back to haunt the president. lou: and the president is doing just about everything else right. the markets are roaring and a million jobs plus. let's talk about bob mueller. gregg jarrett. thank you, sir. i finally agreed with you. we'll have a second special counsel. thanks so much. up next president trump moments ago slamming the russian collusion hysteria led by robert mueller. >> most of people know there are no russians in our campaign. there never were. we didn't win because of russia. we won because of you. that i can tell you. lou: those folks in west virginia and folk all over the country. congressman trent frank said, lisping to gregg jarrett, for russia to resign from the probe. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ hit could be the next big thing i should totally get that domain name... get your great idea online too... get your domain today, and get... ...a free trial of gocentral from godaddy rethink your allergy pills. flonase sensimist allergy relief

yesterday deputy rod rosenstein said the d.o.j. was after leakers but not reports. but went further saying the justice department will go after anyone responsible for leaks. >> what we need to look at is the facts and circumstances. what was the potential harm caused by the leak and the circumstances. that's more important than who is the leaker. we identify somebody no matter what their position is fan they violated the law, we'll prosecute it. chris: including white house officials and members of congress. >> anybody who breaks the law. kennedy: welcome back, judge. judge napolitano: i don't know if anybody means anybody. members of congress can spill secrets if they do so on the floor of the house or senate. but if he's talking about an official in the government with a national security clearance and has information that's characterized as confidential, secret or top secret. and hands it over to a journalist. let's say i have this clearance and i hand it to you, and you say the public has to know this. this is the exact opposite. you compton your show and reveal

first, i directed my deputy, attorney general rob rosenstein, whose district in maryland encompasses nsa headquarters and who has personally led investigations of this kind, and the investigative fbi director christopher wray, to oversee all classified leak investigations, actively monitor the progress of each and every case. secondly, i directed a national security division of the department of justice and our u.s. attorneys to prioritize cases involving unauthorized disclosures. the department will not hesitate to bring lawful and appropriate criminal charges against those who would abuse the public trust. third, we tripled the number of actively investigations. in response, the fbi has increased resources devoted to leak cases and created a new counterintelligence unit to manage these cases. simultaneously, this department is reviewing policies that impact leak investigations and i've listened to our career investigators, fbi agents, and others, and our prosecutors about how to most successfully investigate and prosecute these matters. of ther suggestion, one things we are doing i

first, i directed my find deputy, attorney general rod rosenstein, whose district in maryland encompasses nsa headquarters and who has personally led investigations of this kind, and the investigative fbi director christopher wray, to oversee all classified leak investigations, actively monitor the progress of each and every case. secondly, i directed a national security division of the department of justice and our u.s. attorneys to prioritize cases involving unauthorized disclosures. the department will not hesitate to bring lawful and appropriate criminal charges against those who would abuse the public trust. third, as i have said, we tripled the number of actively investigations. ctive leakti investigations. in response, the fbi has increased resources devoted to leak cases and created a new counterintelligence unit to manage these cases. simultaneously, this department is reviewing policies that impact leak investigations and i've listened to our career investigators, fbi agents, and others, and our prosecutors about how to most successfully investigate and prosecute these matters.

it is the duty of rod rosenstein to limit the scope of the special counsel and he's not doing that. >> sean: where is he? >> she has a conflict of interest. he's both prosecutor and witness in the same case. he's required under the special counsel law to recuse himself. and he's not doing it. you have mueller who should recuse himself and rosen stein to recruise themselves and no one is limiting either one of them and it is it part of the frustration that you can feel when the president addresses the issue. >> sean: thank you both. we are going to stay all over this. they have to investigate hillary. they have to investigate ukraine and debbie wasserman schultz, seriously? when are they going to be put in jail. they are violating the law. when we come back jay sekulow reacts to the empanelling of a grand jury and newt gingrich weighs in and more. a hotel, i want someone who makes it easy. booking.com gets it. and with their price match, i know i'm getting the best price every time. visit booking.com. booking.yeah! dale! oh, hey, rob. what's with the minivan? it's not mine. i don't --

the other is allowing jeff sessions to appoint rod rosenstein. two enormous mistakes that have come back to haunt the president. lou: and the president is doing just about everything else right. the markets are roaring and a million jobs plus. let's talk about bob mueller. gregg jarrett. thank you, sir. i finally agreed with you. we'll have a second special counsel. thanks so much. up next president trump moments ago slamming the russian collusion hysteria led by robert mueller. >> most of people know there are no russians in our campaign. there never were. we didn't win because of russia. we won because of you. that i can tell you. lou: those folks in west virginia and folk all over the country. congressman trent frank said, lisping to gregg jarrett, for russia to resign from the probe. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ so it only made sense to create a network that keeps up. introducing xfinity mobile. it combines america's largest, most reliable 4g lte with the most wifi hotspots nationwide. saving you money wherever you check your phone. yeah, even there.

guest: it is a little bit of the frankenstein-rosenstein creation. because therenot is necessarily any incriminating evidence. i do not object to looking at it. been in d.c. since the 1980's, the independent counsel is tasked with a mission. if they say there is nothing there, and a sense he fails. he views his success is getting somebody, locking them up. there is a logic here that is the wholet makes process not necessarily a search for truth, but a way to vindicate the process. have concerns with this special counsel? can he conduct a special investigation? indications, and i admit i am a this level spectator of events, it looks like he is stocking his team with those hostile to trump. that is not inherently bad. i think it may well be that when you combine ideology with the inherent logic of a special prosecutor's agenda it becomes a stacked process. host: do think the process is more stacked when we see bills introduced in the senate to shield the special counsel from being fired? guest: yes. i think when the process gets going it is harder to s

first, i directed my deputy, attorney general rod rosenstein whose district in maryland , encompasses nsa headquarters and who has personally led investigations of this kind, and the investigative fbi director christopher wray, to oversee all classified leak investigations, actively monitor the progress of each and every case. secondly, i directed a national security division of the department of justice and our u.s. attorneys to prioritize cases involving unauthorized disclosures. the department will not hesitate to bring lawful and appropriate criminal charges against those who would abuse the public trust. third, we tripled the number of actively investigations. in response, the fbi has increased resources devoted to leak cases and created a new counterintelligence unit to manage these cases. simultaneously, this department is reviewing policies that impact leak investigations and i've listened to our career investigators, fbi agents, and others, and our prosecutors about how to most successfully investigate and prosecute these matters. at their suggestion, one of the things we are

first, i directed my deputy, or attorney general rob rosenstein, whose district in maryland encompasses nsa headquarters and who has personally led investigations of this kind, and the investigative fbi director christopher wray, to oversee all classified leak investigations, actively monitor the progress of each and every case. secondly, i directed a national security division of the department of justice and our u.s. attorneys to prioritize cases involving unauthorized disclosures. the department will not hesitate to bring lawful and appropriate criminal charges against those who would abuse the public trust. third, we tripled the number of active leak investigations. in response, the fbi has increased resources devoted to leak cases and created a new counterintelligence unit to manage these cases. simultaneously, this department is reviewing policies that in response, the fbi has impact leak investigations and i've listened to our career investigators, fbi agents, and others, and our prosecutors about how to most successfully investigate and prosecute these matters. at their suggesti

here is rod rosenstein on what they're going to do with anybody breaking the law. >> it's important part of the solution. what we need to look at in every leak we get, we look at facts and circumstances, what were the circumstances, that's more important to us than who it is, who is the leaker. if they violated, warrants prosecution, whether he prosecute them. [laughter] white house officials and members of congress? >> anybody. heather: you know going back to the math of national security, when you have leaks of conversations happening with world leaders, that it maker worlders less incline today share information with us. rob: yeah, important things that need to be done no matter what party you're in. heather: it has only a week, you can see, john kelly already has west wing standing at a tension. >> general kelly is someone who wants to empower staff to succeed. he commands respect but also shows respect. he, of course, is a master at unit cohesion and we feel that coming together in the west wing. heather: even president trump is taking his cues from kelly awarrantly according to blo

. >> reporter: the deputy attorney general currently overseeing his team, rod rosenstein, would have to sign off before the investigation could expand beyond russian election interference. rosenstein wouldn't say if he had. >> bob mueller understands and i understand the specific scope of this investigation, so no, it's not a fishing expedition. >> reporter: the senate, before breaking for summer recess, blocked president trump from making any appointments while lawmakers are away, and also shielding a bipartisan bill to shield presidential influence. >> is some of this directed at president trump? >> there is no question that it is. >> reporter: despite the russian cloud and the president's disapproval ratings, vice president mike pence is denouncing a "new york times" article saying, he is but a handful of republicans positioning themselves for 2020 presidential bids. in case mr. trump isn't on the ballot. the vp blasting the report as offensive, categorically false. pledging his support for president trump's reelection. >> it's the greatest privilege of my life to serve as vice pr

deputy general rosenstein ex he would echoed prosecuting those responsible. including white house officials and members of congress, including anybody who breaks the law. rosenstein also addressed investigation circumstance circling the administration, specifically the news this week that the special council i am paneled a second grand jury. we make a determination at some point in the course of the investigation about whether charges are appropriate. meanwhile the administration is coming out against a new york times article alleging that vice-president mike pence is preparing for a run for president in 2020. it is absolutely true that the vice-president is getting ready for 2020 for reelection as vice-president. no concern he's also getting ready for 2018. zero concern, that is complete fix. vice-president mike pence release a statement saying that those allegations are categorically false. traveling with the president in uj in, i'm kristin fisher. >> we're learning new details tonight about that deadly accident involving a an amusement park ride at the ohi

security so we will hear what jeff sessions and dan coats have to say and deputy attorney general rob rosenstein. the president made mention of the pressure probe last night in west virginia and said it was fake news. anything does everything is all intertwined in washington today. let's check on the markets while we wait. julie: we've got the major averages hanging on to gains with the dow making another record today if it manages to eke out a game. it's up for the ninth straight session and it has not had a winning streak like that since february. we are not seeing blockbuster gains on the back of the jobs report. tostill feels relatively date with the vix back below 10 today. if you look at the bloomberg, lot of traders were talking about an uptick in the vix. they have been saying that for much of the year. here is this year and here is the average of the event on the seasonally adjusted basis going back to 1990. it kind of tells you the art of volatility over the course of the year. attend super cup in august going into september and the fall. you have more and more traders particularly opt

. >> what did rosenstein say about the special counsel's investigation. did he give any new details? >> not a ton of details, which is to be expected. he downplayed the significance of the special council empaneling another grand jury, calling it a tool among many tools that they use during the investigation. >> it doesn't say anything about the likelihood of indictments. we make a determination at so the point in the course of the investigation about whether charges are appropriate. >> he also said that we don't engage in fishing expeditions, which president trump and the white house has been concerned about. he said if the special counsel finds any crime outside the original scope of the investigation, he will have to ask rosenstein for permission. so that is something that the white house was probably happy to hear. >> kristen fisher with the president. enjoy the garden state. >> secretary of state rex tillerson is in asia, where he met today with his south korean and chinese counterparts to discuss the next steps towards denuclearizing the korean peni