mcmaster called him a dope, betsy devos called him a hippopotamus, but only because that's how she thinks you say ignoramus. [ laughter ] it's like everybody who works for trump is fred sanford and he's lamont. >> you big dummy. [ laughter ] >> seth: and yesterday trump had yet another moment that might have earned him the lamont treatment. because during a ceremony presenting a trophy to the army football team, he repeated a bizarre idea he's floated before, that we should add a sixth branch of the military focused on space. >> you will be part of the five proud branches of the united states armed forces. army, navy, marines, air force, and the coast guard. and we're actually thinking of a sixth -- and that would be the space force. does that make sense? [ laughter ] >> seth: no. that does not make sense. [ laughter ] even trump knows what he's saying is crazy. "does that make sense? am i -- am i saying words now? [ laughter ] when will this dream where i'm president come to an end?" and yet he continued to ramble on about this idea. >> the space force, general. you probably haven't even

administration h.r.ials, including mcmaster, spent a lot of time on u.s. government airwaves to munich hitting with the iranian people. the president's persian new year's message which he issued was very strong and denunciation of the deprivation of the islamic republic. i would argue that this is a start. publicant a sustained diplomacy effort that is intended to convince the iranian people, we have to do a lot of other things, including systematic reform of the tools by which we reach out to these people, to these captive populations abroad. that is reform of the voice of america persian service, that is a reform of radio free europe, this is now happening, and it is the silver lining in the conversation. this is happening organically within the administration and it needs to be fed and continued and nurtured as a way of improving our outreach. ultimately, all of these things will not be effective if we do not know what we want to say to the iranian people. this gets us to the zone of danger we are in right now. we know that a fateful decision is coming.

and in this instance, i mean in some instances likerf the firi of mcmaster or tillerson, you could argue that a lot more people should have been brought into the loop. in this instance, though, the point was raised to us that this was a personal matter t. was something between the president and his personal lawyer. it did not involve white house business, and that bringing it into the white house and exposing other staffers to it could have put them in some legal liability. but of course the press secretary, who is going to have to go out and defend this issue in the morning to a gaggle of reporters who greeted her the second she showed up at work, would have been a good person to have brought in the loop at some point probably before the words came mouth last night on fox. >> shannon, i heard a white house correspondent on onen6ém the cable networks tonight said she has lost the room. would you put it thatox3 dramatically? >> um, i mean it's a tough job, and she's been put out there in a number of positions where either she's not given the full information or, you know, she can't -- it

. >> yammish, the whole reason that mcmaster and tillerson were out was to smooth out this issue. finally, the president is going to have a secretary of state and a national security adviser at least that he gets along with. they may -- but once again it is an old-fashioned it looks like the nsa is in one place, secretary of state is in another. we have seen this in previous white houses. >> think about all the different personnel changes, but the person at the center is donald trump. i talked to so many whyte whout officials yesterday. i was asking all sorts of questions, did he do this because he thought kim was going to cancel? what else is going on? why would you dictate it in this way? what the north korean nuclear threat that was in the middle of the letter that we pray we don't have to use your nuclear weapons. at the end of the day president trump made this decision and he is going to continue to be the person that decides using his gut how he does foreign poll see. this is the way he does it. it's kind of an "art of the deal" style. everyone at the white house said this w

know, he i think wouldn't have favored trump doing this and i think that is true of john kelly and hr mcmaster. john bolton has said, you know, in his book that he wrote when he left u.n. ambassador that he doesn't think north korea can be talked out of giving up nuclear weapons. but i think that the president if we talk about whether this is going to happen, his leverage has been that he will walk away if he doesn't think kim is serious about this. so it is interesting to see white house officials quoted on the record saying that they are positive this is going to happen because they are giving up the leverage that the press has said which is that he will walk away at any moment if he doesn't think kim is 3r5i9ing in good faith. >> but you write a lengthy a article where you write that it is a risk that this his new the historic nature be allowed to overh shashadow the deliverable. biggest is the commitment to fully and verifiably denuclearization which of course everybody is quite skeptical. >> yeah, it is a commitment but then also how you do that, how you verify it, what kind of steps you

i think that the one element is consistency and the other is in no [inaudible] i'm confident that mcmaster [inaudible] is for sure modernize but behind closed doors the president you can of course decide what you feel and you can eradicate north korea from the surface but you will never have legitimacy or reason to do it but when it comes to operations we do not have any surgical option to destroy [inaudible] and we do not, do not have any option to eliminate these muscles but they continue. we do not even have a viable option to neutralize the capacity to have huge [inaudible] just know that it's great frustration because [inaudible] the reality is that even after the coming meetings the most you can expect is that the negotiation will continue but can genuine will not give up. he might give up the test because no one but he doesn't need hydrogen bonds anymore. when you think of it north korea is extremely frustrating case and after all the work the most you can do is to negotiate. >> he's frustrated with north korea. >> iran is much different. if you look at the operation of options in i

was no fan and assumed to be a general belief there will be several key advisors around, notably m mcmaster, holding the deal in check. i think we very much have been through unchartered territory we pull out of this because it is clear the europeans are still very much behind it, as was president macron's visit to the united states showed. this is something that we have been expecting. i think what president macron said as he left probably indicated the fact this is not going to be a surprise. amy: and a thank you both for being with us, phil chetwynd editor-in-chief at agence , france-presse. ali latifi, freelance journalist based in kabul. stay safe. this is democracy now! when we come back, we will speak the foundervenson, of the equal jusustice initiati, the grip on the national memorial for peace and justice in new monument to victitims of white supremacy, slavery, and lynching has just opened in montgomery, alabama. ♪ [music break] amy: "gar konad saheb-e-man" byy the afghan singer mahwash. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. on thur

mcmaster, i hope you're happy with what you've got to replace him. so i'm not too keen on seeing a political appointee being the direct over of the cia. they ought to confirm her, renounce any k of violation of law in the future. but unless we're willing to go after the president of the united states and the attorney general and the secretary of defense, who were all involved in that policy decision after 9/11 -- they got scared. they lost their judgment temporarily. we got to put that behind us, though. >> not our proudest moment. general, it's a real treat to have you here in our new york studios. we usually have to talk to you via satellite. thank you, sir. >>> coming up, the current and ongoing fight for the soul of america. that is the idea behind the new book by our pulitzer prize winning friend, jon meacham. he is here with us to talk about it. we'll do that after this break. is as easy as dates, deals, done! simply enter your destination and dates... and see all the hotels for your stay! tripadvisor searches over 200 booking sites... to show

mcmaster -- am i misstating that? >> i think you are misstating that. i think there was a consensus in the administration that the deal was bad, we would give our european allies a reasonable chance to fix it. the president agreed with this. he said it in his january statement. if people can come together, if these nations can come together, fix the flaws, he would be open to staying in. what you saw in the action here today is that didn't happen. i would say to the critics that say president trump was always eager to get out of the iran deal. he certainly was i think eager to get out of it or fix it but it's telling that we are now 16 months into this administration and he didn't do it on day one. >> you are absolutely right. >> he gave every chance to all parties to make this thing better. it didn't happen and he kept to his word. >> tucker: you make a good case, thank you very much.er brit hume is fox news senior political analyst, by senior we mean senior and wisest. he joins us tonight. >> don't you mean age? >> tucker: when there's something gener

mcmaster may leave any time soon. i think we report that had out and prepared for it so many times and when it finally happened we were all like, right. that's coming for sure. but it has been a long time in coming in the sense that he's hinted to many, many people around him that that's what he wanted to do. >> frank figliuzzi, i saw you noddi nodding and i want to give you a chance to jump in. carol inspired a thought or reaction in you. >> i think the forecasting of people's departures is something we're getting very, very accustomed to. often there is far more behind it, like an inability to get along with the president or perhaps i'm jammed up or a fact witness. i think that's what we're looking at with mcgahn. i think he will transition out probably sooner rather than later, but i can tell you emmet flood is going to have his hands full just prepping for the executive privilege fight, let alone transitioning to become white house counsel. so, this will be an interesting amount of legal work on his plate here. >>

mcmaster or rex tillerson, those no longer around, they didn't necessarily buy into the president's vision that way. and john bolton has sort of been aligned with president trump in that way for some time. >> boris, we appreciate it. stand by for us as we look at these pictures of the secretary of state's plane landing there. you see the door to the aircraft being opened. a short time from now we will see mike pompeo who has really been jet-setting around the world. >> the freshly minted secretary of state, still wet behind the ears you could safe. obviously he has a lot of experience from his time as cia director. >> yes. it has been quite the whirlwind. a second trip to pyongyang. the first one he wasn't even secretary of state. he was with the cia when he went. he goes on the second trip, manages to get a 90-minute chat with kim jong-un. we understand that they hammered out more details. there you have it. >> the secretary of state, it looks like him. >> that is indeed mike pompeo descending the steps there at joint base andrews. a lot of energy for 2:34 in the morning after all the tra

mcmaster. there's reporting today in multiple news organizations that there was some disconnect among the national security team. what are the prospects at this moment for getting this back on track, and do you believe that to be the goal? >> yeah, it's a great question. look, i think one thing we've learned with this president is nothing is permanent. nothing is final. the fact that the summit is off today doesn't mean it won't be back on tomorrow or some later date. the president clearly was signaling that today both in his comments and his letter. he clearly still thinks this is a possibility, and you can see him, you know, coming around to finding a way to put it back on the schedule at some point. the trick is putting it back on the schedule is going to be harder than putting it on in the first place because he's going to have to explain what would actually convince him to change his mind again. it would look bad to simply say, sure, let's give it another try if he didn't get something mor

mcmaster, i hope you're happy with what you've got to replace him. so i'm not too keen on seeing a political appointee being the direct over of the cia. they ought to confirm her, renounce any k of violation of law in the future. but unless we're willing to go after the president of the united states and the attorney general and the secretary of defense, who were all involved in that policy decision after 9/11 -- they got scared. they lost their judgment temporarily. we got to put that behind us, though. >> not our proudest moment. general, it's a real treat to have you here in our new york studios. we usually have to talk to you via satellite. thank you, sir. >>> coming up, the current and ongoing fight for the soul of america. that is the idea behind the new book by our pulitzer prize winning friend, jon meacham. he is here with us to talk about it. we'll do that after this break. there was an idea. to bring together a group of remarkable people. to help save the universe... from paying too much on their car insurance. hey, there's cake in the brea

mcmaster stepped down or was fired as the national security adviser to president trump, president trump choice of national security adviser has been john bolton -- one of the most long-standing neoconservative proponents of some sort of a head on confrontation with iran. given a head-on confrontation with iran is not only books right now, certainly, i don't think the u.s. military would support such a thing, what we see is a kind of two-pronged action by the trump regime, trump administration. and that is putting economic pressure on iran by the sanctions, which are going to be reinstated now or strengthened now because a lot of the sanctions were not removed yet. it is important to note that as well. and the second is to actually -- tory good implant conduct military activities against iran. it is not like israel has started conducting military activities against iran. there is been a long period of israeli assassination of scientists, for example. there have been proxy wars between iran and israel, again, primarily by hezbollah in lebanon. i think this is part of a longer range strate

mcmaster, i hope you're happy with what you get to replace him so i'm not too keen on seeing a political appointee to be director of the cia. they ought to confirm her, are renounce any violation of the law in the future but unless we're willing to go after the president of the united states and the attorney general and the secretary of defense, who were all involved in that policy decision, after 9/11, they got scared. they lost their judgment temporarily. we got to put that behind us, though. >> not our proudest moment. general, it's a real treat to have you here in our new york studios. we usually have to talk to you via satellite. thank you, sir, as always. >>> coming up, the current and ongoing fight for the soul of america. that is the idea behind the new book by our pulitzer prize winning friend, john meacham. he is here with us to talk about it and we'll do that after this break. dray, when he was younger, he loved to smile; and we knew he would need braces because his teeth were coming in funny. this is the picture that was on the front page of the newspaper. all you can notice

mcmaster. >> i there you made it up. you won the big round. double jeopardy. you wouldn't whole thing. isn't this outrageous. >> if you're trump watching there program or any other program where they delight in this because it's fun, the kids at school are grading the professor and found him stupid. >> if you're trump and watching this, you're feeling like how could i have these people around me, how can i run this place and by the fact i'm president and no one respects me. some people told me president trump what frustrates him a lot and why he brings up president obama a lot he doesn't feel like he's getting respect the office has in the past. he changes the office in some people's minds. >> course not. >> that's one of the main things that frustrates him. >> i can't imagine talking about like that anybody i know in politics. >> that's the whole reason they have all the personnel problems and so few people. they had the loyalty test at the beginning and said anybody who said anything negative during the campaign can't work here. >> how did these guys get in?

secretary shulkin and others, mcmaster, tillerson, et cetera, all good people. but the chaos that we saw during the campaign, that frenetic nature of it and all the controversy carried on in to the administration. and i guess nobody should have been advised by it based on what we saw. >> is there an area, though, where he has pleasantly surprised you? >> yeah. look, i think the president -- i believe the president is moving on the right track on a lot of the deregulatory front. i thought the tax reform on balance was beneficial, particularly the corporate tax reform. it was necessary. i believe on the va, under secretary shulkin the department was moving the right way. i work on va funding and i work closely with him and the administration's team. there have been a number of years where i have worked with him and i have been encouraged on some policies. there are others -- some of the bigger concerns sometimes for me have been on the foreign policy front at times the president emes seems to want to walk away from various american agreements or commitments, wheth

mcmaster who tried as hard as he could connect decision making to the normal processes of fact-based governance. i think he left because he failed. the other folks, ones i describe as below deck with an oar, be there, do your duty make this president as successful as you can, but here is the punch line. you have got to preserve not just your integrity, obviously, but you've got to preserve your institution. in the face of the pressures that it's under at the present time. >> brennan: let me ask you about some of the comments the president has made about the institution of intelligence, you've taken issue with his very public criticism of the intelligence community, including his repeated reference to the 9/11 attacks, missed signals there, faulty, weapons of mass destruction in iraq. isn't some much of his skepticism warranted? >> i was in the room when we voted on the weapons of mass destruction national intelligence. margaret that's a pattern with regard to the president when it comes to decision making, explaining his policies or defending his policies. he doesn't come at you with

mcmaster who were willing to speak up and provoke debate and willing to try to introduce alternative ideas into the policy-making structure, they've really been engineered out of there. and what you're now seeing is some of that culture, that culture of fealty, of conformity, is trickling down into the civil service. across this workforce of 2.8 million civilian employees. and i heard it in one agency after another, that there's an expectation that if you are not believed to be as ryan zinke, the secretary of the interior, puts it loyal to the flag, by which he means himself and the president, then you are suspect. >> and how has james mattis escaped that? >> james mattis is the exception to the rule. and as i describe in the piece, members of congress who pay close attention to the power and the independence of the defense department have said he has been able to do that because he maintains some distance from the president. the president, as we know, respects mattis, regards him as a military hero, somebody who deserves his respect, but that is a tenuous position. and as we've lear

mcmaster has stormed out west wing or threatened to quit in front of his staff." "mr. trump's chief economic adviser gary cohn warned the chief of staff john kelly that he might resign." quote, "steve bannon even threatened at one point to quit." quote, "former secretary of state rex tillerson before he was fired by tweet was on the verge of resigning last july." fbi director christopher wray reportedly threatened to resign if andrew mccabe was removed from his job as deputy director of the fbi. attorney general jeff sessions offered to resign when the president expressed his rage over sessions's recusal on the russia investigation. and chief of staff john kelly has reportedly threatened to quit so many times that it's becoming his thing. getting chewed out at work to the point of threatening to quit is becoming just another regular day at the office for this administration. a small number go through with it, like gary cohn. a larger number get pushed out. and there are a few on the list whose fates are still up in the air. hello, jeff sessions. the latest to join the

mcmaster has stormed out west wing or threatened to quit in front of his staff." "mr. trump's chief economic adviser gary cohn warned the chief of staff john kelly that he might resign." quote, "steve bannon even threatened at one point to quit." quote, "former secretary of state rex till herson before he was fired by tweet was on the verge of resigning last july." fbi director christopher wray reportedly threatened to resign if andrew mccabe was removed from his job as deputy director of the fbi. attorney general jeff sessions offered to resign when the president expressed his rage over sessions's recusal on the russia investigation. and chief of staff john kelly has reportedly threatened to quit so many times that it's becoming his thing. getting chewed out at work to the point of threatening to quit is becoming just another regular day at the office for this administration. a small number go through with it, like gary cohn. a larger number get pushed out. and there are a few on the list whose fates are still up in the air. hello, jeff sessions. the latest to join th

mcmaster who were willing to speak up and provoke debate and willing to try to introduce alternative ideas into the policy-making structure, they've really been engineered out of there. and what you're now seeing is some of that culture, that culture of fealty, of conformity, is trickling down into the civil service. across this workforce of 2.8 million civilian employees. and i heard it in one agency after another, that there's an expectation that if you are not bleefshd to be as ryan zinke, the secretary of the interior, puts it loyal to the flag, by which he means himself and the president, then you are suspect. >> and how has james mattis escaped that? >> james mattis is the exception to the rule. and as i describe in the piece, members of congress who pay close attention to the power and the independence of the defense department have said he has been able to do that because he maintains some distance from the president. the president, as we know, respects mattis, regards him as a military hero, somebody who deserves his respect, but that is a tenuous position. and as we've lear

mcmaster has stormed out west wing or threatened to quit in front of his staff." "mr. trump's chief economic adviser gary cohn warned the chief of staff john kelly that he might resign." quote, "steve bannon even threatened at one point to quit." quote, "former secretary of state rex tillerson before he was fired by tweet was on the verge of resigning last july." fbi director christopher wray reportedly threatened to resign if andrew mccabe was removed from his job as deputy director of the fbi. attorney general jeff sessions offered to resign when the president expressed his rage over sessions' recusal on the russia investigation. and chief of staff john kelly has reportedly threatened to quit so many times that it's becoming his thing. getting chewed out at work to the point of threatening to quit is becoming just another regular day at the office for this administration. a small number go through with it, like gary cohn. a larger number get pushed out. and there are a few on the list whose fates are still up in the air. hello, jeff sessions. the latest to join the c

mcmaster said at a private dinner trump was a dope with the intelligence of a kindergartner. sparks really flew when michael wolf's tell all book came out in january. it quotes gary cohn, then top economic adviser as calling president trump, dumb as bleep. the white house says that allegation was absolutely ridiculous. and it may be. the measure we're talking about is pattern. the book also quotes treasury secretary steve mnuchin and reince priebus calling their boss an idiot. priebus claims he never said it and mnuchin called the book fake. kristen welker joins us and worked on this story with me and our colleagues. first, let's start with some inconsistencies. we report in the story that when defending john kelly, they said john kelly cares a lot about women. in meetings when people use profanity he often says please don't. he also says they're more emotional than men. let's go back one day. the story prints and within 45 minutes john kelly sends an emotionally charged response and calls our story b.s. last i checked, the s. and b.s. does, in fact, stand for foul language.

mcmaster doesn't back his political instinct. bolten is likely to do so. it is often invoked never enforced. but i think the key point until 2:00 p.m. today is does donald trump simply dismiss it or does he as he's suggested standing with macron a week or two ago try to take the things that critics of the deal feel are really objectionable. the fact that sunsets is 2025 leaving the iranians open to develop weapons. their ambitions in the region. is this a mend it not end it strategy or a political peak, i'm following through with my promises and let the consequences be damned. >> thank you both very much. >>> we're following breaking news, chinese state media reporting that president xi jinping just met with kim jong-un in northeastern china. this is video from a prior meeting between both leaders in march. we don't have any video of the current meeting. this week's two-day meeting comes as kim is prepare for a potential summit with president trump. there is no date or location announced yet for the meeting. >>> so, the white house touting rudy giuliani's

mcmaster resigned after the president publicly slammed him on twitter. it's a stunning number of departures given the president has bragged about how great it is to work at president trump's white house. >> the white house has a tremendous energy and we have tremendous talent. so many people want to come in. i have a choice of anybody. everybody wants to be there. and they love this white house because we have energy like rarely before. >> everybody wants to be there. well, it sure doesn't look like that from the facts. tremendous talent, from the members of the cabinet who main, ethics is a major problem for some. just moments ago the white house spokesman raj shah admitting they have concerned about scott pruitt who is under fire for serious ethical brief breaches, including spending and management. ryan zinke accused of wasting taxpayer money, same for hud secretary carson. not the only official reportedly threatened to quit. the chief of staff john kelly, of course a mentor to nielson made it clear he'd resign if the president wanted to and if the pr

john kelly called him an idiot, hr mcmaster, a dope, intelligence of a kindergarten, tillerson with the swearing fing moron, gary cohn, more swearing. reince priebus, an idiot. just a taste of this. but carol, let's go back to as well what stephanie mentioned about women that he believes are more emotional than men. there are actually while there are fewer women in cabinet role, and we've seen in past administrations, there are several prominent in the president's inner circle, kellyanne conway, sarah huckabee sanders, he relied on hope hicks. where is this kind of lining thinking coming from? >> we talked to some people who had worked with john kelly over the years who said that these are just his views for better or worse that he has some sort of antiquated views about women. and he also people have told us that he is close with or has good relationship with kellyanne conway as well and his right hand person is a barack obawomat the head of department of homeland security. so it is not a one dimensional sort of picture, but that is kind of reflected in the way that the white house spo

the other is that there is certain frustration about -- in north korea, i'm confident that mcmaster will still -- that is for sure, more than once, behind closed doors, pull the president, you are the president, you can of course decide what you feel. we can eradicate north korea from the surface of the earth but you ill never have legitimacy or reason to do it. when it comes to psychological operation, we do not, do not, any psychological option to destroy his nuclear arms. we do not, do not, have any surgical option to eliminate his ballistic missile. we do not have a viable option to neutralize the nose capacity to exact huge -- from south korea. so, just know it. so it's great frustration because even higher vis-a-vis and north korea and even after the coming summit the most you can expect is the negotiation will continue. kim jong-un will not give up his arsenalful might give up the test because he already have the instrument and the atomic bomb, hydrogen bomb, few of them, but doesn't need it anymore. when you think of it, north korea is extremely frustrating case. after all the rh

mcmaster said office, and he said bring them into the oval office. so the unexpectedly went into the oval office, sat down with president and number of his advisers, though not his secretary of state who was overseas. in the basically laid out the results of the meetings they had in the north and said that they thought that there was receptivity to having a meeting with kim jong-un or can the president let's do it. these two gentlemen, i assume blanche, i wasn't there to see but my sumptuous they're probably a bit taken aback. president trump then said to the national security adviser of south korea, and you go out and tell the press this is going to happen. and he said i had to call my boss first. i had to call the president of south korea. so trump turned to mcmaster and said take him to your office and have them call the president. they go into his office, he calls as president. president moon says well, if that's what he wants, we should go ahead with it. and then the nationals get advisor comes out and in a moment i'm sure he expected in his ent

joining us now is governor henry mcmaster. governor, you were at the dinner. what does trump want you, as a governor of a state, what does he want you to do about immigration? >> well, one thing, we were all very pleased to be there with the president. he is a great president, and he made it very clear as you just saw from that clip he wants to be sure that we don't have illegals pouring in over the border. and we agree with him 100%. of course, some weeks ago he asked for us to send national guard troops. we were proud to do that. south carolina's a very military-oriented state, as you know, with a great tradition, and we sent a group there. nine guardsmen and women and a helicopter, and we're ready to send more. so did the four other governors who were there with us last night. it's a great thing. again, it's a cooperation, the state and federal authorities working together under a great leader who's taking us in the right direction, and that's president donald trump. stuart: okay. i just want to ask you what it's like to sit down in the white house to have

withdraw from the deal, the replacement of exeter worsened and the replacement ofjohn walton, replacing mcmaster as national—security adviser. he has i'iow as national—security adviser. he has now brought two major opponents of the nuclear deal on as part of his national security team and he ran on the platform, when presidential candidate, saying this was the worst deal in history, but the paradox of his instinct to withdraw are that a iran is likely to retaliate, which will likely require a bigger presence in the middle east which is against his instincts. does pulling out only strengthen hardliners within iran? whenever they have a security in the country tends to play to the interests of security forces and the us attorney revolutionary guards said a more integrated iran would benefit civil society, and they are happy to see this deal unravel because it essentially spells the end of the presidency of the deal unravels. essentially spells the end of the presidency of the deal unravelsm is interesting that you say iran would react if president trump he certifies the deal. ijust wondered if

governor hutchinson, governer ducey, governor bryant, governor martinez and governor mcmaster, they are doing a fantastic job. we are going to be talking about numerous things. one of the elements so important to us is to discuss the border and border security, crime and other things, but that's what we will be focusing on tonight. we are grateful also to be joined by secretary nielsen, who is really working very hard. bad laws. we have laws that are the worst anywhere in the world as far as stopping people from coming in, but with that being said, we are down over 40% border crossings. we've been able to do what i think nobody else has been able to do, we are down over 40%. tonight we will be discussing joint efforts to stop illegal immigration and secure the borders also. we are going to be discussing the deadly ravages of drugs, gangs and crime that is pouring across our border and we are stopping it and getting them out when they are able to get through and the only reason they do get through is because of our weak laws that really have been given to us by week people in congress, t

his previous ones, tillerson, and mcmaster were against what the president just did today. and they kept delaying it and delaying it and delaying it. as dana and i know -- we have been reporting this is a very different president from a year ago. he is now saying a i am keeping my promises, b i know how to do this, and c i'm going to do it. that's exactly what we saw today. these folks are gone and he has very different people in those jobs right now. >> what tony was talking about, about north korea, that has been one of the key red flags of course for the president in pulling out. saying how can you do this on one hand and on the other begging north korea to make a deal. it is strategic in a way that maybe we haven't seen from this administration thus far for him to not only mention north korea in the same speech but say that the secretary of state is on his way there because they clearly understand how sensitive it is. >> i want to go to michelle kosinski over at the state department. it was very dramatic the president of the united states announcing in advance, he says

during protests in january and february, hr mcmaster spent a lot of time communicating with the iranian people. and the message, on march 20th of last month was a very strong and vocal denunciation of the depredations of the islamic republic. if we want sustained public diplomacy to engage the uranian -- iranian people, systematic reform, the tools by which we reach out to these people, that is the reform of the persian service, radio free europe and radio liberty, this is happening and this is the silver lining in the conversation, this is happened organically in the administration and it needs to be fed and continued and nurtured as a way of improving our average but ultimately, all of these things won't be effective if we don't know what to say to the iranian people. that gets us to the zone of danger we are in. we know that a decision is coming. we don't know if it will happen on may 12th but we understand there is a moment of inflection that is underway. we don't know what our comprehensive strategy towards iran is yet even though the president announced formation of a compressive

mcmaster is gone for far less. >> right. i don't know -- rudy, his incoherence is trump like. getting on your skis before you have all your facts is trump like. being drawn to the camera like a moth to a flame, that is trump like. trump may identify with some of these behaviors. he may not know or immediately understand the degree to which what rudy is saying may be hurting his legal case, but i think in a case of public opinion, you know, rudy is out there very cavalierly just making a muddle of these things. he's not making the fact pattern more clear. he's undermining their case in a lot of ways. obviously like everybody else he's start forgive this not an assumption of innocence but an assumption of guilt. talking about he may take the 5th. the interview with mueller is a perjury trap. none of these things you say when you think your client be is innocent. in terms of making a mess of it, and as in the clip you showed basically saying i don't know what the facts are. whatever. he's basically telling people in the country, look, the same thing that trump is communicating in

. >>> lieutenant colonel herbert mcmaster sr. died last month days after a fall in a retirement home. nurse christian gainey is charged with involuntary manslaughter and falsifying records. she plans to plead not guilty. they call it an important step to stop those suffering at the hands of those who lack compassion. >>> millions are bracing for severe weather this morning. a powerful line of storms is moving off the east coast. those storms created scenes like this one here in new york. dramatic. bolts of lightning around the empire state building. to the west, at least two tornados touched down near richfield, wisconsin. wind gusts near 80 miles per hour left a trail of damage. >>> and geologists in hawaii are making stunning predictions about what could happen if the kilauea volcano blows its top. if conditions continue changing, there could be a very violent steam explosion in days. that would include massive boulders traveling at 120 miles per hour and an ash cloud high enough to disrupt air travel. the threat has led offici

mcmaster left, all right? hr tried to move heaven and earth to connect all this. to actual decision-making. and i think the bottom line of his experience is -- i couldn't get -- >> couldn't do it. >> you write about institutions under siege. something we've talked so much about in the last couple of years. the president trying to undermine the media the justice department, the fbi, all the intel agencies, what's the long-term impact of all that? i have people ask me all the time. are we going to be okay? if it's three years or eight years whatever it is, when trump's no longer here, can we put this thing back together? what's your answer to that? have we run so far into our corners it's going to be hard to come back some day? >> it's going to be hard, but i'm not despairing yet. you've got a president who handled most of his life crises the way you just describe and it kind of worked up here in this environment. it really doesn't apply, working within government. to try to simply delegitimize anyone who might be saying something negative about you. but he is takin

. >> well, the national security strategy, which is written by john bolton's predecessor, hr mcmaster and his team didn't use these phrases. they talked about jihadist terrorism, didn't talk about islamic. but so we just don't know. >> yeah, we don't know. i think the jury is still out to see what will take place. in all fairness, i mean, there's a lot of pushback one can give to the administration. i think that the administration, quite frankly, they didn't use that language yet. >> yeah. >> we will see. >> and relatedly, what did you make when trump -- president trump traveled to rea and gave a big speech which was the analog of president obama's speech in cairo, but for president trump. what did you make of that speech? >> anyone? >> talking about early last year. >> may 20th. >> basically, i think -- i don't have a strong opinion. >> really? >> yeah. >> i think the speech could have been given by obama minus the iran-bashing. maybe some of the -- it seemed like a fairly -- >> packaged. >> when you're going to -- that's the thing, right? being in government, right? it's easy to say

so trump turned to mcmaster and said take into your office and have them call the president. they go into my pastor's office and he calls the president and president moon says if that's what he wants we can go ahead with it and then the national security adviser comes out in a moment i'm sure he never expected and his entire career he walked out into it darkened white house driveway where there's a phalanx of cameras and reporters and announces president trump will be meeting with the president with the supreme leader of north korea, an announcement that was so unorthodox and so many levels you can't begin to think about it. a major policy announcement he made in the white house by another country's government. i only mention this because it's by way of pointing out the obvious which is which early know very little about what's going to happen in the next couple of months i wanted to kind of plant that to set the tone. so why don't we go to the first question which actually is very appropriate to what i just said which is the following. will a summit between president trump a

who was very much a hawk on iran, is the new national security adviser, replacing a calm general hr mcmaster, and mike pompeo, who has come from the caa first you will have had access to covert intelligence on iran, so benjamin netanyahu will have a sympathetic ear in washington, the worry is that if america pulls out of it and european countries don't, we'll rant then say they will resume their activities and the deal is dead, then saudi arabia will think maybe they need a nuclear programme and then you were into a worrying nuclear arms race in the middle east. the headlines on bbc newsroom live: international trade secretary liam fox accuses the house of lords of seeking to ‘block the will of the people', after a series of government defeats over brexit. a court hears that four sleeping children were murdered after being trapped in their bedrooms when their house was torched with petrol bombs after the israeli prime minister claims to have proof of a secret iranian nuclear weapons programme, the us says the iran nuclear deal was "built on lies". it's time for some more sports news. let's

even mcmaster said that you need to have the denuclearization first. that is the goal then you'll talk about economic aid. you know, the only concession that i can think of that the pentagon or the administration at large has made is not bringing reporters in to witness these military exercises when i was in korea just a couple months ago, normally they bring a bunch of reporters, they put you on planes. once those exercises started and once there's a prospect of talks going on, pentagon basically shut it off. they said no public attention to be put on this this was the strategy and they thought they had the green light across all of government to continue with these exercises. if you don't have exercises, you don't have an alliance you don't have the ability to work closely together. it's a nonstarter here at the pentagon to give up these exercises. although it appears the north koreans want to put them on the negotiating table. >> i see okay that does fill in a lot of the blanks on why we do those things okay all right, hans. thanks appreciate you co

mcmaster. the president, critics of the deal in addition to supporters. >> host: can you explain why john kerry was speaking with the iranian foreign minister about this? >> guest: john kerry was one of the lead negotiators for president obama in securing this nuclear deal in 2015, so he has an interest in making sure it stays intact. so he was talking the u.n. a few weeks ago with the iranian foreign minister, his former negotiating partner. this angered president trump, you know, raising accusations that he is improperly trying to influence u.s. diplomacy and really ignited a fire in this are only huge debate in the nuclear deal than what we have seen tweets from the president targeting john kerry and what is calling his shadow diplomacy. before you go, is there anything the white house can do to formally sanction john kerry for doing that? can theyan shut down his discussions with iranian officials, or is this something that a former secretary of state is allowed to do? >> guest: well, some

and the new national security adviser john bolton, they are much more is ideal than rex tillerson and mcmasters. so he is hearing critics of the deal as well. host: can you explain why john kerry was speaking with the iranian foreign minister about this? jordan: john kerry was one of the lead negotiators for president obama and securing the deal in 2015, so he has an interest in making sure it stays intact. so he was talking at the united nations some weeks ago with the iranian foreign minister, his former negotiating partner. this angered president trump, raising accusations that he improperly is trying to influence u.s. diplomacy. hasis really through -- it ignited a fire in the already fierce debate. host: we have seen tweets from the president targeting john kerry, what he is calling his "shadow diplomacy." anything the white house can do to sanction john kerry from doing that? can they shut down his discussions with iranian officials, or is this something that a former secretary of state is allowed to do? supporterse trump have raised the possibility that john kerry violated the logan act,

mcmaster was trying to do, still respecting the process and making the interagency have involvement and you don't see that now, with the decision to drop the iran nuclear deal, there was no process. >> and you look even today. the united states of america is sending a representative to israel to talk about the changing of the embassy to jerusalem and one of our representatives is a man who said all jews are going to held. i've got a feeling they didn't check that out with state. >> the process protects, it vets things. the whole idea of policy making is to reduce the chance for undesirable surprises. you never want to get bit by something you o.k.ed. oh, wow, i didn't know that was going to happen. the lack of process ensures bad things will happen that will surprise you. >>> up next, a white house staffers callus joke about john mccain was leaked to the press and the administration had a forceful biting response -- not about the joke, but about the leak. that's next on moeblg. liberty mutual stood with me when this guy got a flat tire in the middle of the night. hold on dad... liberty