younger people who are interested in her, there's definitely a lot of bernie pull away. i have met a lot of folks who were with bernie in 2016 and maybe they are still shopping warren but they're there to check it out. iowa, new hampshire are not exactly racially diverse, i would not say that the crowds are racially diverse. i would love to see her in south carolina and see if she can pull a more diverse crowd there. the polling has suggested that she can at least compared to mayor pete, beto, the other folks hanging on to the bottom of the top tier, but i haven't seen that in person yet. >> what do you think? >> the most impressive thing i've seen in this report, 384,000 individual donors. >> that's amazing. >> that is amazing. >> people don't understand they can give and they can give until they're maxed out. >> yes. at $28 a pop. that's like 90,000 more than the next closest person who is mayor pete who actually did very well. for her to be starting in that particular place and we are just in the second quarter is a good sign. look, warren has been doing this the way

i think the matchup with her and bernie sanders, bernie with that scowl on him and her going out there, is really quite interesting. >> and i think he thinks that he took his shot and missed that pocahontas didn't do what he thought it would do. >> right. and she is now becoming -- >> she's actually gone up. >> which is a positive historic cal figure. >> she's the best progressive we can have. >> and those numbers are a little deceiving on the warren point because warren has really taken the full brunt of the donald trump treatment over the last year. if she's still up on him by two points, that's pretty impressive. it shows that she can take on the machine. >> the other thing, felipe, i want you to weigh in on this as well, susan. we must remember trump also won in the electoral college. he lost the popular vote, with independents going for him, some that voted for obama that voted for him because they wanted change. and that is dwindling. and you had jill stein, third-party candidates that took a chunk out and we're not hearing that this time. so you don't have that block of voters t

bernie in our nbc "wall street journal" poll. so bernie is in this for the long haul. he is going to command a large chunk. therefore, the progressive vote if it consolidated that could pose a threat to joe biden i think will stay fractures. we might not see much movement as long as joe biden pulls out a strong performance in the next couple of debates. if he doesn't, then i think we see another scrambling. >> look, when you look at the polls, it is very, very simple. the nbc poll basically says that biden, no surprise, getting older people, getting african-americans. if you get them, you are going to win. the question is how can he start to pull some of the younger voters who are all bernie, all elizabeth? >> well, the problem with joe biden is that he is an old dog and he's struggling to learn new tricks, and he's someone who is unapologetically himself which is a good thing. it is something that i think authenticity matters in politics and it should matter for who we want to lead our nation and head our government. but when yo

elizabeth warren is a fresher face than bernie sanders. they're looking for someone new. >> let's talk about eric swalwell. we've got this next debate at the end of the month. how many candidates do you think will start getting out before this next debate, julia? >> we'll really have to see because i don't know how much longer they can fit that many candidates on stage, and you're actually hearing rumblings that tom steyer could jump in the race but i think swalwell could be doing that. he was primarily in the race to bring attention to gun control and combatting gun violence. it will be interesting to see how washington governor james inslee combats climate change. i think you're going to see a whittling of the candidates. they still want to get their word in on the debate stage. >> all right, julia. a lot more to talk about. we're not going to say good-bye. we're going to see you in just a bit. >> thank you. >>> president trump speaks out about the highly critical comments about him from the ambassad ambassador to the u.s. >>> plus, pres

>> well, i think bernie probably stopped the bleeding a little bit. we'll see whether or not he's able to expand where he is. i think the one thing that bernie did effectively last night was to remind everybody that the things we're arguing over, whether it's free college or medicare for all, those were his ideas four years ago, and he has set the terms of the debate. i think he effectively reminded everybody when he said i wrote the bill. whether he was able to expand his vote share, i think it's too soon to say. i think for warren who is essentially where bernie is, she made an effective argument. she showed more leadership. he was a little bit angry, all over the place. that's not exactly what he needs to do right now. >> another benefit she had been getting over the last month is i think eating a bit into buttigieg as buttigieg was going down, a little bit of that. i guess the question i have for you, donna, did buttigieg stop the bleeding. and before i get to you, i want to play what i thought was his highlight moment of the debate. >> if you wer

he hasn't told bernie sander to go home where he came from. it seems to be people who are a different color than him are told to go home. some of the house members i think will vote for the resolution and interesting to see if it's eight or ten or 12 which is the numbers you've gone typically on the attempts to break from trump. whether you get 30, 40, 50. this is one for me -- for me -- the others they should have voted against trump honestly. this is really fundamental, i think. the idea they put party loyalty over saying the right thing this is beyond the pale i don't believe most are going with trump, i guess. >> robert costa, bob costa just interviewed persbernie sander. let me play that interview and ask you about it on the other side. >> this is disgusting. this is the most racist outbreak statements from a president that i've heard in my lifetime and it must be universally condemned. apparently, you know, trump may be crazy, but he is not stupid. and i think what he believes it is a good political strategy to try to divide the american

bernie sanders owned it obviously because he was the only one in it in 2016. remind people, he beat hillary clinton by more than 20 points. >> in new hampshire. >> in the new hampshire primary. he dominated that state. now elizabeth warren, she's up 14 pianoints in three months. >> he no longer has that progressive lane anymore. in 2016, when bernie sanders jumped in, he was exciting, the political revolution, it was something new, it was something that we really hadn't heard before, and it was a binary choice, now we're in a situation where you have elizabeth warren and others, elizabeth warren up by double digits, kamala harris coming up as well, and so what bernie needs to do, he needs to expand his base, his support, it's going to be very difficult for him to do that as we were just saying because of elizabeth warren and when you look at the, take a 30,000 foot view, yes, biden is leading, he is clearly the front runner, but japanese, elizabe -- but geez, elizabeth warren, they are exciting different parts of the base. >> steve, a couple of weeks ago, you

of course mayor pete, bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, kamala harris, joe biden, coming out, you know, pretty strong in this quarter, but if you have not released your numbers at this point, it's probably not good news. i'm intrigued and interested to know where beto o'rourke comes down on this. he had a great q1, the fact that he has not reeleased his number or framework. right after the second debate, i raised x amount of dollars. we haven't heard that from him. the real question is has he raised enough money to make his candidacy viable going forward. >> we just got as you were speaking, we got word that julian castro said he raised 2.8 million in the second quarter. matt, i want to give you the last word, though, speaking of the other side, trump might be trailing democrats in the polls right now, but he and the rnc say they have raised $105 million in the second quarter and that's far more money than he had the first time around, so what do you think, matt, is fuelling this boost right now? >> i think it's important to announce the debates in the democratic side rev up republican

this as we are getting fundraising numbers from bernie sanders. how he's comparing to the rest field. we'll look at that also. two of the candidates making headlines today will join us this hour. former colorado governor john hickenlooper who's campaign staff is getting a major shuffle and cory booker who is planning to overhaul our nation's immigration system as well. that issue front and center as democratic lawmakers visited the my durant detention facility where horrendous conditions have been report. what they say they encountered during their visit. we'll dig into in just a moment, but we start with the upheaval in the democratic 2020 campaign. pete buttigieg expected to speak at jesse jackson's rainbow coalition program any moment in an attempt to build support among african-american voters specifically. this was the logjam of 2020 contenders is showing its first signs of breaking up. two new polls now taken after last week's debates, one from cnn finds two candidates cutting into biden's double-digit lead, kamala harris and elizabeth warre

headlining night, one will be bernie sanders. senator elizabeth warren, mayor pete buttigieg, former congressman beto o'rourke and senator amy klobuchar. night two joe biden, senator kamala harris once again facing off with senator cory booker and julian castro both looking to repeat their strong performances from the last debate. joining me now to help us understand all of it, msnbc national political correspondent steve kornacki. >> a couple things to keep an eye on. the first night as you say sanders and warren the only candidates right now polling in double digits who are going to be on that stage the first night. the new name joining the debate for the first time, steve bullock the montana governor. he did not make the first round of debates since then. eric swalwell has dropped out. something else to keep in mind on this first night and also the second night a bunch of these candidates, marianne williamson, tim ryan, amy klobuchar, john hickenlooper, john delaney, steve bullock, they are fighting for their political lives.

making do made her this incredibly strong person. >> between shifts alexandria got involved in bernie sanders '2016 presidential campaign as an organizer in the south bronx. after the november election, she traveled to the standing rock indian reservation and joined the protests against the natural gas pipeline that ran through sacred tribal land. for ocasio-cortez, the experience was pivotal. >> i think that informed a lot of her thinking about how you needed to act in politics too, because standing rock did not have a political advocate. >> that's the moment when she started to express herself and talk candidly and authentically to folks on social media. >> there's so much to share with you guys. and we're just hoping that you get a little piece of this action right now. and we will be back. thanks again. >> she was at standing rock when she got the call about brand new congress. >> brand new congress, a political action community started by bernie sanders supporters, promoted candidates with progressive values to run against incumbents. >> people we're looking for are people in the

or is she just a lighter version of bernie? i think going into the debate this is going to be the really defining moment and which is going to define whether or not she keeps on bringing in that money that her campaign is going to need to survive going into the next 14 months of the campaign. >> charlie, bloom book business week cover story analyzes warren's strategy saying she is making a big bet that taking trump down requires beating him at his own game. go big and go bold. is her strategy working? one would say president trump would far rather run against a more progressive candidate than joe biden. >> no question about it. if you are donald trump you want to run against somebody who you can make the sharpest contrast with. this is the republican strategy. you want to run against what radical socialists, the squad, of course they'd be able to portray bernie sanders and elizabeth warren who are different as out there. i don't think this is going to be decided by policy but an election decided by whether or not this country i

up 11 points over bernie sanders. biden back in third there. among moderates, completely different story. biden in first place again, not even close. 20 points ahead of kamala harris for second. this is the biggest single divide we keep seeing in democratic polls, the divide over age. among voters under 50, bernie sanders is in first place, joe biden is barely cracking double digits, under 50 years old. 50 years and older, biden rockets to first place, nearly 40%. and sanders collapses to a mere 3%. democratic voters over 50 years old. one of the ironies of the democratic race. the oldest candidate in the field, bernie sanders, one of the reasons he is not doing better, voters most averse to him are the oldest voters. >> the generational divide. steve kornacki, thank you for breaking down the numbers on the big board. phillippe, if you're inside the biden campaign, are you feeling confident? he had that rocky debate performance, yet he held onto first place, not by as much as when he went into the debate, but he is still holding on. >> i wouldn

now, bernie is not doing well now. he is going down, down, down. >> elizabeth. >> she is taking space. >> she is. but i'm saying this, don't be surprised if bernie. >> no. >> runs as an independent. >> he won't do that. >> he will be -- okay i was about to say run out of the of the country process. bad week to say it you were about to say something. >> when you say something if one of the koonts, democratic candidates are nominated or elected the markets will tank. i push back against that. that sounds like a trump will say. if any of these get elected the country will gown down. i believe the country will stand up and say enough is enough. you can have a great job and the economy can be strong but morally bankrupt and that's what we are seeing. >> the 35 to 21 move on the corporate taxes, dropped 40% to the bottom line of those corporations. >> that was the right move. he didn't need to give the tax break to the rich people. >> when they reverse it you're crimping corporate profitability. >> who says they reverse. >>

right next on elizabeth warren or bernie and he will win in a land shied. i have a lot of friends who like trump. and i can no longer listen to them say, well, he's good for the economy. no. you won't it now. you own that behavior and you can't say, well, that, but then this. >> so this election will be fought in the suburbs and ex burbs. your strategy is smart. i keep hearing it. his economy is great. hiss numbers are worse than anyone else's besides jimmy carter. it is his own worst enemy. >> do you see what he is saying? the economy is fantastic. his numbers are terrible. if he had barack obama's personality, or a different personality. when you look at all the business metrics, the 13, vegas. they still believe and they're betting on trump. >> bernie was screwed out of the nomination by the dnc. >> hillary. >> clearly. he thinks he was. denied the nomination by the dnc and hillary forces. now, bernie is not doing well now. he's going down. >> well, elizabeth -- >> she is. i'm saying this. don't be surprised if bernie runs as an independent. >> he won't

if bernie sanders is hitting her on that today, i know they won't be sharing a debate stage. as much as voters are concerned about how they are drawing contrasts, that's clearly a contrast that's going to be coming up between night one and night two, kasie. >> certainly have has been confusion how kamala harris would address these questions. she's a little bit back and forth on it. some clarity that opens her up to the attacks. ali vitali, thank you, joining me, basil smikle and rick tyler. basil, let me pick up there with where we left off, with that voter ali was talking to and her willingness to say, hey, we should be looking at joe biden's more recent record, mainly as vice president to the first african-american president, especially on criminal justice. do you think african-americans are buying it? >> i think they are buying it largely because of what the voter is alluding to. over time they do give candidates the benefit of the doubt. the truth is that particularly with the crime bill, that was a very difficult time, and it's a very difficult issue, especially when you

because bernie sanders and elizabeth warren have the same sort of thoughts on policies. so if you've got them dueling it out, and they also do not take big dollar donors, so they're almost competing for the same donor, too. if they hack it out and bloody each other, joe biden becomes unscathed and goes to the top along with mayor pete buttigieg, which wouldn't be a bad combo. >> noelle nikpour, thank you. i'm not letting you boys leave yet. >>> the fact that president trump has told four congresswomen to go back where they came from left the democrats in further gridlock. i'll be speaking to two mayors about what really matters in their cities. really matters in their cities ♪ and with bank of america and merrill, the benefits you get can grow, too. as a preferred rewards member, you can enjoy priority service and exclusive discounts... so your growing life can be more rewarding, too. ♪ what would you like the power to do? ♪ but dad, you've got allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed.

if he was, bernie sanders would have been his target. but what does this do to the president's strategy if, let's say, joe biden, the current front-runner, becomes his opponent? yesterday while the president was launching attacks on these four women, joe bide enrolled out his healthcare plan which is not medicare for all. it's obama 2.0. if that's the case, how can the president win on this doubling down of those are unamerican socialists? >> well, i think kevin mccarthy is talking about this idea of ideology but the president didn't win the election because he had a bunch of great policies. he won the election because he ignited people to really think about the future of america, to think about their own identity and feel as though he is the person who could carry the torch forward. what the president is going to continue to double down on is the idea the other side is trying to destroy your way of life. that's what he's been saying in rallies and is going to continue to say. i will say that the white house yesterday was trying to pivot

some of the same issues elizabeth warren has bernie has. biden is one they know and that carries a tremendous lot. >> the other is the criteria to get into these debates will change after this, when we come back in the fall for new debates. polling thresholds will be raised. looks modest on paper and looks like it could knock out half the field in terms of qualifying. a lot of candidates tonight have to stand out and get noticed. looks like beto o'rourke is bringing guests to the debate, several black men who kneeled to the national anthem. i guess cnn is going to air the national anthem. i'm seeing speculation, will candidates kneel to get attention. what will candidates down at zero or 1%, do they have any stunts? >> reporter: i don't know about stunts. i standard beto o'rourke if he will kneel and they laughed at me that that is too big of a risk for them but it brought him to the national stage defending the right of athletes to kneel during the senate campaign. that could reprice the issue of what they liked about him in the first plac

bernie's prepping for this debate. he's going to prep for it by taking a nap right before so that way his hair looks just right. >> but of the progressives, you think warren has a better shot than bernie? >> i do. yong, you know, but it's not much. people are still mad she took a dna test to prove she had a cherokee ancestor several generations back, and even worse it turns out he was bernie sanders roommate. >> i know you love mayor pete. mayor pete was really poised in the first election. >> you know what he did? he did his homework, and he's doing it again. this time mayor pete cleared his schedule to focus on debate prep. he's not even going to make it to tee ball practice or timmy's pizza party. >> okay, does she have a shot? >> gillibrand, that's right, she's still here. i don't think so. kristen is the candidate for everyone who would say i love hillary clinton but she's just too likable. >> triumph, what a privilege. know you're busy. you've got a lot of candidates talking to you. >> thank you. and coming up ne

bernie sanders who won the primary in 2016 has fallen to fifth place. yang is at 5% and amy klobuchar is at about 3%. and beto o'rourke got no support at all this latest round. >> lots of shifting there. >>> former vice president and 2020 presidential candidate joe biden became emotional talking about the role care givers play. the comments came out the day he announced his medical plan. emphasized, they must be rewarded and paid more for what they do. >> if you need the help, i promise you, there is nobody, nobody, nobody more important than you than that person who will do anything from help you with a bed pan to when they get really scared -- you know. hold their hands, you know. these are good, good, good, important people and they should be compensated. >> very emotional there considering his own situation. we'll have a discussion with joe biden on "morning joe" coming up. >>> still ahead after president trump's tie rad after telling four congress women to go back to where they came from. >> and kellyanne conway defies conduct by skipping an oversi

and bernie sanders is strong here. you may recall that he ran very strongly here the last time out too. but let's talk about what happened to biden. while i defer to a.b. and her wisdom, even if he takes a hit again tomorrow, look what he's been through in the last few weeks, brian. i mean, he didn't just have that terrible moment with senator harris in that debate. there's been talk about his nostalgia for serving with races in the senate, the media has unearthed all kinds of things about his record on crime, to progressive voters, and he's still in the national polls and has a huge lead. we don't know what's going to happen. even though there's conflicting evidence in polls on this, democrats want one thing more than anything else, whether they're progressives or moderates. they want to win. so the issue of electability and the so-called conventional wisdom that biden may have the best chance against trump, i'm not sure if we don't get into our tunnel vision here on what all of this means on july 29th of 2019. >> two

>> well, i think bernie sanders did terrific. i think he came out with passion, he defended himself, and he made it very clear why we need medicare for all and why he's going to take on the special interests. >> and what about any candidates you didn't endorse? >> senator warren. i think senator warren also did very, very well. she was passionate. she really talked about people's stories and had a clear rationale. i think the two of them really dominated the debate stage tonight. i think marianne williamson actually had some surprisingly eloquent answers and i think she did well as well. >> congressman khanna being friendly and fair to multiple democrats. what a -- what a model for the primary that we hear some people want. it hasn't gotten too rough yet. it has been a busy, busy news day and night. i really appreciate you joining us tonight. >> appreciate your having me on, ari. >> yes, sir. thank you so much. >>> we have so much to get to. we have other issues that democrats are still trying to press the administration over. we

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we knew going in that bernie and biden had the name recognition. they had that name i.d., and so now they were both tested in many ways. bernie, we see that his numbers are soft. they are not as strong as we thought they were as well. and the women surged. the two women that won the debates are surging, and i think that says a lot. just to be clear, it's still very early. we're at the early stages of this. we have a long way to go, and it's fluid. >> and this was probablyi inevitable that joe biden wasn't going to sit there 20 points up and cruise along for a year for the nomination. what do you think his campaign takes out of his performance last week and the reaction in the polls this week? >> i think the strategy of just kind of assuming that you can run for the general election during the primary has to be thrown into the trash can. if they do that this is hillary clinton 2.0. i think he's going to have to be more aggressive in terms of laying out his policy positions and trying to demonstrate to the base he's not a back ward looking candidate,

bernie sanders as well put up about 24 million. actually bernie sanders transferred about 6 million, he raised roughly 18. but mayor pete raised close to $25 million. that's pretty impressive for a second quarter. but -- >> yeah. >> you look at his polling and the two don't seem to make sense. why -- why is he not polling better if he is raising so much money? >> well, a few reasons. i've been talking to people who are raising money for mayor pete as he travels to places, including massachusetts this upcoming weekend. and they say that on the ground he is resonating with folks. they're doing a combination of these big-dollar fundraisers that folks like elizabeth warren and bernie sanders have chosen not to do. but also doing the smaller-dollar donations in order to energize younger people, really allow people to get to know him. and it has been literally paying off. now one thing that raising this money will do will allow him to stay in the race longer than some of the other candidates and give him more of an opportunity to build h

bernie sanders among them dissatisfied by this announcement. here's what he said to andrea mitchell a short time ago. take a listen. >> i have known tom for a number of years. and i like tom personally. but i do have to say, as somebody who in this campaign has received 2 million campaign contributions, averaging, i believe, $19 a person, i am a bit tired of seeing billionaires trying to buy political power. so i like tom. he is a good guy. he's a friend of mine, but i'm not a great fan of billionaires getting involved in the political process. >> said like you'd expect bernie sanders to say it there. who is tom steyer a threat to if there were to be one on the democratic side? >> because of his money and massive email list he's a threat to the entire field. and this changes things tremendously. people don't drop out of presidential campaigns because they don't have a chance to win. they drop out because they can't put gas in their tank. >> eric swalwell among them. >> just yesterday eric swalwell said he was specifically not running because of

think bernie's support is kind of where it's going to be. he's have that very loyal and i moveable support. but i think the major base expanders take the stage tonight and it will be fun to watch sparks fly with cory and kamala going toe to toe. >> michelle goldberg, perhaps nobody in the democratic field articulates policy positions as well as senator warren. last night, as we know, she made her pitch for an expansive agenda. let's listen to that first. >> i don't understand why anybody goes to all the trouble of running for president of the united states just to talk about what we really can't do and shouldn't fight for. [ cheers and applause ] >> so, again there are seems to be a party divided along several lines here. basic ideology, gender, age, but, michelle, did you hear anything last night that might signal a middle ground? >> well, i don't know. obviously elizabeth warren is not fighting for the middle ground in this primary. she's basically saying, look, the way you win is to stake out your position as strongly as possible and then

she and bernie sanders are kind of killing each other right now. the two of them could consolidate, you know, they could be a real threat to the vice president. and the last thing is kamala harris. kamala harris was the winner of the last debate. and came out of this debate looking very, very strong. and is really solidified her position, you know, in the top three. she needs to solidify her position in money. she didn't have as good of a fund-raising quarter as the others did, but she's on the map, you look at texas and california she continues to sit in a position where she could be the nominee of this party. >> well, you know, jim people say how early it is with the polls. and of course you go back and look historically about how polls in the past have meant very little. this time in 2007 of course rudy giuliani and hillary were looking pretty good. at the same time, with two candidates in the field, with the top five solidified you're starting to see a real correlation between how people are doing in the polls and how they're doing raising mone

. >> but bernie sanders also turns off those voters. >> he does. and i think that's why you've seen that some of the other candidates have had more traction in michigan. bernie sanders started out as, perhaps, the favorite since 2016. he won the state here. but he has definitely stalled in michigan and i think that's because of a lot of those voters in oakland and wayne county who are more well to do and they're not responding to his message as much. >> i got that. jonathan, thank you so much. susan, basal, matt, stick with me. moments ago the markets opened. as you can see, a flat start to the week. president trump earlier this morning lashing out at the fed again. basically demanding that the federal reserve cut rates immediately. the fed has been hinting at a rate cut later this month. president trump hitting hard, saying he wants it big and he wants it fast. there's also growing uncertainty over a budget deal. negotiations continue this weekend between treasury secretary mnuchin and speaker pelosi. just two months remain to solidify a two-year

she is more of a party figure than bernie sanders. but they are competing heavily for a segment of the party. in iowa, she was in a poll where she was in first place. so she has a lot of pull. the question is who gets to 50 which has a lot of people in the 20s. >> and for all of the celebrity that kamala harris has had after the debate performance which was really stellar compared to a lot of the others, her fund raising had to be disappointing with $12 million in the second quarter compared to $18 million for bernie sanders and $24 million for -- $21 million for biden, $24 million for pete buttigieg. >> these candidates are getting so much free media that i'm not sure that they need a whole lot of money beyond what it takes to keep the lights on and keep core staff. keep in mind this is a calendar that could go very deep given the number of candidates involved and as long as we have debates, as long as the candidates are in the news, the ads are going to have diminishing returns. >> polls are much better than money i would say. >> wi

to say bernie sanders, kamala harris and elizabeth warren, i get -- >> bernie sanders is too old. >> but i get bernie and elizabeth warren. i just want to under -- >> you think there's that much separation ideologically between the three of them. i mention them they are the three front-runners. if you only go through each one kamala harris' position. she took position against private insurance which most americans. >> she rolled it back. >> she may roll it back if she drops in the polls. the fact is to make that comparison is because of the color of her skin is really a little bit too 1960 for my taste and not a fair statement. when it gets down to it justin amash factor is almost irrelevance with one exception. that's the state of michigan. he's someone who can appeal in michigan. if michigan is close like it was in 2016, justin amash could tilt the state to the democratic nominee. justin amash will lose the republican primary and that's why he switched parties. >> george will, i want to read this tweet by professor and author tom nichols. he writes the idea that a third-party can t

it also means much of bernie sanders of last cycle and this cycle. if you see somebody starting to catch on fire, you can see a lot of those grass root donations coming in. that's what warren supporters are hoping for when those fund raising totals are released. even before the debate, we were starting to talk quite a bit of the momentum she was picking up in the early stage and national polling. when we do see those numbers, the warrior campaign wants to hit in that sweet spot above of what kamala harris did and they're not going to hit that pete buttigieg or joe biden level, folks leaning into the fund raising circle, that's what we are looking on so far. >> does she capitalize on the fact that she does not lean into the fund raising circle. that's a new concept that we are talking about. how much big donor activities going in? >> it is bernie sanders' jam. >> he made a lot of money from a lot of people. does she lean the other way and leaning into that. that's where i am getting momentum. >> reporter: she does, bernie sanders sort of started this

elizabeth warren at 14%, bernie sanders at 13%. mayor pete buttigieg, at 4%. this poll shows a trend of biden slumping a bit down 10 points since may and kamala harris surging, up 9. for his part, the president is showing jitters sitting down with tucker carlson in some unhinged tweets this morning. quote, as most people are aware, according to the polls, i won every debate, including the three with crooked hillary clinton. despite the fact in the first debate they modulated the sound on me and got caught. got caught modulating. i missed that. this crew looks somewhat easier than crooked but you never know. that tweet coming as twitter started to percolate with this reaction with this bizarre exchange with tucker carlson. >> coming where we are now in tokyo and the cities are clean, there's no graffiti, no one going to the bathroom on the street. >> it's very nice, isn't it? >> very different from our city. >> some of our cities -- >> new york city, san francisco, los angeles, they have a problem with filth. >> very sad. very sad. >> why is that? >> it's a phe

senator bernie sanders beats trump by 7, 50/43. senator elizabeth warren beats trump by 5, then it gets more narrow. kamala harris has a one-point edge over the president. that, of course, falls to the polls' margin of error. in the democratic race for the nomination, biden leads with 26% of the vote. warren second at 19. harris, bernie sanders, buttigieg round out the top five. as for the rest of the democratic field, andrew yang, beto o'rourke snagged 2% then it falls off a cliff from there. the rest of the pack lagging far behind. some of the names in this race fail to register at all. again, these are national polls. even though we don't have a national election, we have more like 50 state elections. but there are also new and telling numbers out tonight from a key primary state. in a survey of likely new hampshire democratic voters, joe biden has the lead right now at this moment in time with nearly 21% support. but he's in a statistical tie with kamala harris in second place and warren in third. buttigieg follows with 11 1/2

some folks liked bernie. but what i noticed that is happening is the most kind of progressive wing of democrats who are the ones who are most likely to caucus this time around are really -- and this kind of echoes what was said with your previous group of guests are really kind of tired of old white men dominating the show and they're feeling like it's time for something different. now, what's interesting about that is it's not that it's a democratic kind of a prejudice against old white men but they really want people to be voicing the anger and indignation of some of what has happened to minorities, people of color, immigrants caging children, trump speaking up for white supremacists under this current administration. and they want someone who is going to, as kamala harris says, litigate the case most forcefully and most effectively against donald trump. and i hear some people saying, for example, about bernie sanders that his time has come and passed, that he's a little bit out of date with what's going on

in that first debate in miami, had bernie sanders sharing with joe biden. elizabeth warren all to herself on the first night. in detroit next week, we'll see a different side by side, which is bernie sanders and warren sharing the stage. a real battle of two progressive lane front-runners. i had a chance to ask sanders about what he expects in that matchup. let's listen to how he answered. >> you know, i think senator warren will speak for herself. the theme for me will be to talk about the war against the working class of this country for the last 45 years and the incredible level of wealth and income inequality we have right now. >> we've been following senator sanders all weekend here. the contrast not taking debate with senator warren. he's tried to keep the focus on joe biden on the issue of health care. pooid was here to start the week talking about his vision for improving affordable care act, attacking senator sanders saying medicare for all risks putting a lot of americans in a hiatus, losing coverage, ending medicare as we know it. senator sanders

he bested bernie sanders, who was a fundraising king in previous cycles. i assume he had an online advantage in the past. jeremy peters, but dwarfing this is $105 million from the trump km campaign announced today. >> they have so much money and have a leg up over the democratic candidates in terms of how they're penetrating only, especially facebook. >> that facebook operation is way ahead of anything the democrats have been able to attempt. >> and the democrats i talked to are very worried about that. they don't have a nominee but you'd spectacular them to be further along, for the candidates to be spending more money, paying a little bit more attention to countering what is just an overwhelming show of force from president trump and his allies. it's not just trump, that's the thing. it's the conservative groups that are out there pushing the same types of messages that the trump campaign is. it's really a sophisticated level of coordination. as i said, it has a lot of democrats i'm talking to pretty nervous. >> we're on this, there was also that fake we

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the people who are winning them are elizabeth warren and bernie sanders. you end up having joe biden in third place. those who want smaller scale change, joie biden is lapping te field. this has the contrast to what democratic voters want. they're divided here. another divide, or poll shows that democrats, pretty much are split on whether they want a candidate who is more aligned with them on issues or who can simply beat president trump. i tell you back in 2015, 2016, the last presidential cycle. the issues was in the 70%. now it's almost an even split. electability matters minorityor democrats than it used to. tier one are the people who are running at the top. you end up having the joe biden, elizabeth warren, pete buttigieg, kamala harris, bernie sanders. tier two, talking beto o'rourke, then you have all the 1 percenters. then those people who are less than 1%. >> when we look at the age factor, what's interesting about this is that bernie sanders, you know, tops the field among young voters. >> he does. of course, remember, that was his strength in 2

>> bernie sanders is going all in. he gave a similar speech to this one about a month ago on democratic socialism. he's owning and occupying his positioning in this field, very much far to the left. he's trying to reclaim some of the momentum that elizabeth warren has picked up, kind of in that space and the progressive space. so yeah he's going to go all in. he's never been shy about going after biden on things where they disagree. here's a chance for him to grab back this issue and say this belongs to me and draw the contrast. to answer your second question it's the defining issue of this democratic field. from 2018, we know health care is a powerful motivator for a lot of voters. it was certainly an issue that helped democrats in 2018. they were able to cast themselves as the party that wanted to protect obamacare provisions popular in particular, including the preexisting conditions protection. so if this becomes something that then divides within the party it's going to be interesting to see how republicans try to

the same college poll poll puts bernie sanders in fifth place, just above the formerly unknown andrew yang. joining me now is the white house chief of staff jim acena. and emily is a host brand-new podcast, your primary playlist which debuted today. congrats on that. jim, it's early but there's a pretty big distinction when you look at the leaders and the waggers. 20% of new hampshire voters like biden, less than 10% back bernie. this is not first poll we've seen him slide in. and this is a state where he beat hillary clinton in the primary with 60% of the vote. what do you make of these results in new hampshire? >> boy, they're a real problem for senator sanders. there's a state he won in 2016, it's a state he almost has to win given the early primary calendar. it's a state that -- he's from vermont right next door. it's a state where he has a bunch of advantages. and the fact that he's sliding this early sis a relevant warnig sign, a sign that elizabeth warren is hurting him in the national polls. she too is a next-door state candidate and her numbers are starting to come right out

senator bernie sanders holds onto second place. joining me now from iowa, our road warriors, mike, you are following joe biden, let's talk about the second quarter for him in terms of fund raising compares to other candidates we know so far. >> reporter: the downside of being the front runner in that debate, joe biden put on defensive by some of his opponents. as he arrived today since the debate a little bit of a show of force for the biden campaign announce announcing the second quarter number. it is not as much as pete buttigieg raising more than $25 million. bernie sanders with a big number of $18 million. that's more on a curve day bases the biden campaign points out. i will read a few of these statistics highlighted binomial dy biden. 97% of all donations are from grass root donors, amounts of less than $200 or less. they have more than 256,000 donors. obviously, ali, as biden, having to deal with that tense debate exchange with kamala harris. the fact that he's not going anywhere. a reminder from the biden campaign as well.

you can imagine elizabeth warren, castro, bernie sanders doing kind of the same thing that kamala harris did in being aggressive, personal and persuasive about why joe biden's leadership and record is not really in touch with where the party is at today. >> one of the things that i think joe biden's campaign team and biden himself is probably talking about right now is, like, what the -- how they talk about the 40-year record that he has. >> you would think they would have figured that out before his presidential run. >> right. but it's a long record, right? i mean, like, it's one of the things -- it's one of the differences between running with a small record or, you know, three or four years of votes and 40 years of votes. you talk about how you're going to talk about those 40 years of votes. that's in some ways the central question for biden. >> the strategy has been to not apologize, to double down. it might change, but for now it has been to not apologize. >> the truth is a lot of candidates have long records in this race. so i do think the big question -- look, i was in debates tha

senator bernie sanders beats trump by seven. senator elizabeth warren beats trump by five and then it gets more narrow. kamala harris has a one-point edge over the president. that of course falls to the poll's margin of error. in the democratic choice for nomination joe biden leads with 26% of the vote, warren at 19, harris, bernie sanders, buttigieg. as for the rest of the democratic field, andrew yang, beto o'rourke snagged two percent and then it falls off a cliff from there. the rest of the pack lagging far behind. some of the names in this race fail to register at all. again, these are national polls. even though we don't have a national election, we have more like 50 state elections. there are also new and telling numbers out tonight from a key primary state. in a survey of likely new hampshire democratic voters, joe biden has the lead right now at this moment in time with nearly 21% support. but he is in a statistical tie with kamala harris in second place and warren in third. buttigieg follows with 11.5. and bernie sande

it was joe biden and bernie sanders having the name recognition. what does that say to you about prospects as the candidate wages on. >> the name reflects much more than the chances in the ballot box. it's interesting to see some of the democrats who had less name recognition 45 days ago, moving up in the polls. for harris and warren, those are significant jumps. but democrats can't take any votes for granted when we get to 2020. they have to fight for the last vote. and this is an opportunity for the democrats to get familiar, not just with a president, but with the cabinet, with the entire tier of democratic leadership. so, there isn't much room for movement, or there hasn't been room for movement here. what's going to make the difference. >> you look at the difference of the cross tabs in this poll. this highlights a challenge for democrats. almost three out of ten hispanic voters still support the president. that's double what it is for african-americans. and that tells you that for all of the focus of the black vote, we see it in the president

in iowa shows joe biden has a slim 5 point lead over bernie sande sanders. elizabeth warren takes 17%, and kamala harris is at 16%. pete buttigieg is at 5th place at 7th%. a amy klobuchar with 4%. warren is at 18% and harris comes in at 12%. buttigieg with 7%. tulsi gabbard and beto o'rourke at 2%. south carolina is the best state where he has 30% of the vote. kamala harris and elizabeth warren at 12% each. buttigieg at 5% followed by booker at 3% and o'rourke at 2%. in the delegate rich primary in california, bide skn and harris tied. sanders at 16%, and buttigieg way back at 6. and in texas, biden holds a 10 point lead over the lone star state's beto o'rourke. 27% for biden, 17% for o'rourke. elizabeth warren at 16%. harris and sanders at 12% each, buttigieg and julian castro at 4% each. >>> president trump could win 5 million viewers votes and still secure an electoral college victory. despite democratic changes in california and texas. both are growing more diverse at a faster rate than the rest of the u.s. that are trending towards the democratic party.

but the big difference here, second place bernie sanders in this poll, 23%. only 6 points behind biden. they have sanders much stronger than we're seeing in the other post-debate polls. kamala harris, they have her moving into double digits. that's an improvement for her in this poll but it is not what wee seen in the other polls. the extent of her improvement much less in this abc news/"washington post" poll than we've seen elsewhere. so we always say when you start getting multiple polls, you can start averaging them together. you can see what the overall trending, the overall trajectory looks like. keeping in mind this is the new abc one, we have some others we've been showing you, when you merge them altogether, what does the race look like then? i can show you that. this is through real clear politics. biden sitting there right now at 27% on average in first place. sanders and harris basically tied at about 15%, a tenth of a point separating them, warren right behind them and pete buttigieg. we've seen his number fallen off a little bit recently and don'

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