yesterday, senator cory booker going off the former vp again. booker saying that biden's latest criminal justice reform plan is not enough. >> for him to be an architect of mass incarceration, this is an adequate solution of what is reaching crisis in our country. for him to not have a more comprehensive bold plan to do with this is unacceptable to me. especially because he is partly responsible for the crisis that we have now. >> dagen: responded questioning booker's own record as mayor of new newark, new jersey, . >> cory knows that's not true. number one. number two, if you look at the mayor's record in newark, one of the provisions i wrote in the crime bill had a practice of misbehavior. his police department was stopping and frisking people, mostly african-american men. we took action against them, held the police department accountable. he objected to federal interference. if you want to go back and talk about records, i'm happy to do that. but i would rather talk about the future. >> harris: is also taking aim at senator kamala harris, sa

you just saw cory booker lead the stage. he gave ant( impassioned speech about income equality, about making sure that homeowner ship is available to black women. it's a message also being echoed by kamala harris who here at essence has just unveiledfáe1 a $100 billion homeownership plan. that is to address the racial gap, the inequality gap between black families and other families. and then she also gave nod to át()huááz run for president.run for here's what she said. >> the type of black womene1 ha always been fueled and grounded into faith and in the belief of whate1 is possible. we have always built thee1 futu that we can see and believe in andxd fight for. andfá that's why the donor spok it's why may flew, it's why ros1 and claudette sat. it's why fanny organized, it's why charlie ran and why i stand here as a canwt(uq for president of the unitedxd state! >> beyond kamala harris and cory booker we heard from michael bennet ase1 well as bill deblas. later as welle1 as elizabethe@(% warren,e1 beto o'rourke will sp1

cory booker did well, the crowd knows cory booker well. amy klobuchar to some extent was new to this sort of stage at the national urban league. and others talked about i think economics. manufacturing, small business growth and development. so it was a good discussion. today we have got five more candidates including kamala harris and i think great interest in her. kirsten gillibrand and mayor pete from south bend, who is right here in the state of indiana. >> they're all like minitown halls but they do get to explain themselves and answer your questions. i want to ask you about a poll and get your read on it where joe biden leads by 27 points, but when you look inside the numbers among african-american voters in south carolina, he has 51% support and you have to go down to 12% to find support for kamala harris so almost a 40 point lead among african-american voters for joe biden. how do you explain that? >> african-american voters from what i hear are very interested in electability. the ability of whomever the nominee is to defeat donal

cory booker is often sort of rosie kumbaya as a candidate. on a stage, looking at joe biden, can he deliver that kind of attack, like kamala harris did in the last debate? >> i think a big topic tonight that we saw a little bit of last night, but not that much, is that this is the most diverge stage in presidential history. not only is it booker and harris, but castro, the only latino, gabbard. they're surrounding biden. one of the biggest topics in the democratic debate is how they talk about racial identity. how they're going to confront trump and his racist attacks on lawmakers of color and i think that either in booker's attacks on biden or castro going after biden's past on immigration and deportations under the obama administration that could be a bigger topic. >> castro, too, has put criminal justice central to the campaign. gillibrand is very unsubtly forecasting she could go after him on some issues surround iin health. >> that support from minority voters, he is coming into this with a bevy of goodwill that i'm sure he will lean on.

joining me now is 2020 presidential candidate cory booker of new jersey. let me start by asking about the president. and you said the president's original comment was racist. many of your candidates, they've called trump himself a racist. who makes you stop short of that? >> well, i actually am not. the reality is this is a guy who is worse than a racist. he is actually using racist tropes and racial language for political gain. he's trying to use this as a weapon to divide our nation against itself. and this is somebody who is very similar to george wallace. he's using the exact same language. somebody texted me i've seen this before in black and white and now i'm seeing it again decades later where i thought our country was beyond this, i'm seeing this in full color. so this election in many ways is yet another chapter in our american history. we've seen it in a no-nothing party, which was trying to stop irish and german immigrnts. we have a dem demagogue fear mongering american and it's a referendum on the heart and soul of our country. who are we going

senator cory booker spoke just moments ago. and former vice president joe biden set to speak in just a few minutes. zblaz aioknow biden and booker have been trading jabs in public over each others criminal justice record. biden also criticized senator kamala harris saying he won't be so polite at next week's presidential debates here at cnn. one of biden's big claims to the nomination is his electability, that he's the candidate most able to beat donald trump. i imagine other candidates are taking issue with that. >> reporter: that's right, jim, and we heard just a short while ago from cory booker here at the national urban league as they're having these 2020 democratic candidates come to try and court black voters. and one thing cory booker talked about is he was challenging that idea, the conversation around electability, saying it often does not focus the black base of voters of the democratic party. take a listen to what they had to say. >> most of the time when somebody's asking about electability, they're not asking about

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the view is that he is -- as cory booker was saying, he's the architect of the system. that is sort of what they're hanging around his neck. and so whatever he does today, i don't think is going to change what is happened over the last 40 years. the thing about it is, for the recent history, he was working for barack obama. so it is kind of implicitly a criticism of barack obama. they have to consider that. because it is not like joe biden could have come out and changed this system while he was under obama unless obama wanted to do it and that is the time period when democrats have been getting more serious about the issue. so i think it is fair to hold him accountable. absolutely. but i just think that they have to be realistic about where the whole democratic party was, not just joe biden. >> is there a risk for cory booker or kamala harris in doing this again? because kamala harris was very aggressive last debate. it definitely helped her in terms of poll numbers and fundraising. but there is always the risk that you would tax somebody too much and you look opportun

cory booker called him the architect of mass incarceration. let's watch. >> cory booker called you the architect of mass incarceration. what do you think of that? >> cory knows that's not true, number one. number two, the significance of incarceration was done before the crime bill was written. number two, if you look at the mayor's record in newark, one of the provisions i wrote in the crime bill, pattern of practice of misbehavior, his police department was stopping and frisking people, mostly african-american men. we took action against him. the justice department took action against him. held the police department accountable. he objected to federal interference. >> so he's at least practicing what he's going to say, to have all of that right at hand when a reporter asked him. >> he's step egg into t-- stepping into the ring. she's sparring. cory booker is polling at 1% so obviously as jesse jackson said, when you're on the field and have the ball, everybody's coming at you. joe biden is the front runner, the guy with the ball. cory booker

cory booker should apologize. and now he's coming forward and sort of saying to cnn, well, i was waiting to get to south carolina to apologize. that is sort of a -- that's kind of a strange, very political formulation to make. i mean, i think for kamala harris and cory booker, maybe some other democrats, they do sort of sense that they have vice president biden on the ropes here. and you could hear from senator harris at least a desire not to let this go, not to simply say, well, the apology suffices and let's move on. and, really, still a desire to relitigate issues from the '70s and from the '80s. and the reality is that if you go back to delaware, if you go back to issues of busing, issues of the different crime bills that were passed in the '80s and '90s with a lot of democratic votes, you do find joe biden's fingerprints on a lot of them. and that's what the harris campaign and the booker campaign probably aren't going to let go of. >> so the former vice president says, wait a minute, check with president oba

and i expect -- particularly, you got cory booker on the same stage. they're actually on either side of him. that's going to be a great little clip of his reactions to what they say. i think joe biden would benefit by just focusing on trump and not trying to kind of respond to these attacks from cory booker and kamala harris, because they'll come. he needs to prepared to defend his record, he has a challenging record on racial issues and on women. i think he needs to focus on -- >> on racial issues? >> oh, yeah. we were talking about busing and we were talking about his relationship with segregationists. cory booker is now talking about the crime bill and the impact on the african-american community. it's a challenging position for him for him to push back on cory booker and kamala harris it looks like he's having a fight with what the black community really believes. >> i think the democrats should spend more time saying how they're different from donald trump than how they're different from each other. the most amount of energy is, how are you going

this shows marianne williamson is ahead of cory booker in new hampshire. [applause] so maybe that harnessing love tap worked working better than identity politics and here is what we told dave rubin about that. >> me talk about the same thing. talking to the american all of us. >> oh my god she is making sense. turning to our political correspondent what do you think? is she really the only interesting voice on that side are just falling in love and i don't know it quick. >> she is. she had a tweet this is a problem in the country is that we are not emotionally connected with the declaration of independence. and what could that possibly mean? does she want us to rub crystals on it? i don't think the national archives lets you do that. that i want you to go up to and talk about your childhood or whatever. but i think she is wonderful. or how many push-ups she can do. but she is so captivating. that didn't make sense trying to figure out how to make sense of that. >> the odd person out. >> correction she's the only person in this bunch but i asked actually f

>> cory booker has called for it. he's asking you to apologize. >> cory should apologize. he knows better. there's not a racist bone in my body. i've been involved in civil rights my whole career, period, period, peririod. nermeen: biden spoke after senator cory booker had issusued a statement readading -- "vice president t biden's relationships with proud segregationists are not the model for how we make america a safer and more inclusive place for black people, and for everyone. frankly, i'm disappointed that he hasn't issued an immediate apology for the pain his words are dredging up for many americans. he should," booker said. amy: other candidates also weighed in. senator bernie sanders tweeted -- "i agree with cory booker. this is especially true at a time when the trump administration is trying to divide us up with its racist appeals." new york mayor bill de blasio posted a photo of his family on twitter and wrote -- "it's 2019 & @joebiden is longing for the good old days of 'civility' typified by james eastland. eastland thought my multiracial family should be ille

new jersey senator cory booker hasn't backed down from former vice president joe biden. he first called out biden on his criminal justice plan and then again earlier today when booker said while biden has more name recognition, he's the candidate with the real connection to the african-american community. any minute now, we're actually going to hear from senator cory booker himself at the new leaders counsel convention in des moines. but first i want to go to garrett haake. thanks so much for joining us. what is booker's message here to voters today as he works to really distinguish himself from joe biden? >> reporter: yasmin, it's interesting. booker and biden have been circling each other like boxers for the last few weeks or so on the issues of race and criminal justice reform. yesterday booker made the argument in front of a national urban league audience that the democratic nominee has to be someone with big connects who can drive big turnout with african-american voters. today i asked him how can he claim that mantle given how poorly he has performed with that grou

talked about working with the segregationist senators, they got into that scuffle where cory booker was like you should apologize. joe biden was like you should apologize to me. they didn't get their moment because they weren't on the debate stage together and now they will be. >> the 2016 republican primary was never nice once trump got in. sanders/clinton was not night. obama/clinton was not night. ambition ends nice even if you're really friends. >> when you were talking about sanders versus clinton, this race is wide open, it really is. that was the lesson of the last debate. booker is taking a shot because there is a path for booker. he is polling low. there is an opportunity and it doesn't mean that he'll hit it but he could. biden has similar challenges that hillary clinton had with black lives matter protesters in her 2016 race where she found herself on really the wrong side of a generational issue where there had been a civil rights issue that had changed a lot over time. biden is obviously not going to be as complacent as he was last time. i think that's been drilled into

listen to cory booker. >> you have one destiny in this nation and right now the vice president to me is not doing a good job at bringing folks together and is causing a lot of frustration and pain with his words. >> jeff zeleny is outfront live in washington. put it all in perspective for everyone. what are the candidates seeing here in these numbers? >> there is no question, this race is resetting. all images of joe biden being the front runner are now reshaping this summer. he is a fragile front runner at best here. the biden campaign is aware of th that. he has been talking about that saying don't look at the polls. the reality is the biden campaign was not expecting this to happen quite this soon. it was that debate performance in miami that certainly opened the door to challenges to joe biden. are others going to try to walk through the door, as well? there are openings for a variety

booker, that will help him. >> here's a little preview what we might hear from cory booker. here he was last night when he was asked about joe biden's comments about working with segregationist senators. listen. >> of course i did. how many times have we all in our lives who are some kind of other dealt with man-splaining or dealt with condemning remarks? >> todd, what do you tell them to do differently this time? >> i tell him to do a lot differently this time. i think one of the problem he has is one of the benefits. here's a benefit that joe biden got this time is he knows where he was weak in the last depate. he knows where he needs to improve. unfortunately for him where he needs to improve is in his race relation answers. the problem with that is he's sandwiched between cory booker and cam lah harris. and as a debate coach, as a perspective i can give you, it's very difficult for joe biden to do anything. for example, he can't really attack either of the senators on his right or on his left. and the reason he can't attack them is because it's a bad look for an older wh

here is cory booker, senator and 2020 candidate. is there anything the attorney general can say that would convince you the decision was just or made in good faith? >> i think clearly the challenge had and i found this in conversations with barr that we didn't seem to understand the biases deep within our system didn't seem to have an agenda to address the profound what we know. statistically no, they are clear. there are problem when it comes to race and policing. we know in this nation woo we capture horrific incidents on tape and americans know for every one we catch on tape, eric garner's case was filed on a police report that didn't speak to the use of force. the next day someone pulled out a videotape. for every eric garner or name we know, there are thousands that we don't because we don't have a system yet that holds police officers to accountability and we don't have a doj or attorney general that sees even a problem with the kind of violence and lack of accountability that we often find in policing. >> you have a new piece

cory booker's attempt to do that. this is interesting in the terms of the criminal justice reform roll out plan. biden has had support his older african-american votes, less so among younger african-american voters. by getting ahead of the crime bill, getting that plan out this week, this is biden's attempt to stave off some of the attacks. there's no doubt he needs to be better in responding to the attacks when they come. >> you mentioned bide's among black voters. among black voters in the democratic primary, biden in front with 46%, cory booker, by the way, not registering in this poll at ot% among black voters in our poll. you mentioned, you say biden has to handle it better than he did the bussing question with kamala harris. what's your sense from the biden campaign? do they have a plan for that? what are they going to do to make sure he's not caught flat footed? >> the plan is pivot every question or every attack that comes about the '94 crime bill by focusing on the future. that's why it was important to get t

could this be a way for cory booker to ping and hit them both? >> he has to do something because cory booker has not moved in the polls whatsoever. because he was not on the main stage with joe biden last time, this is going to be his opportunity. he's going to have to hit kamala, they all are. this is a competition, it is a race for the white house, and a very serious presidential race right now. and so they need -- he needs to have some type of action. i do think that criminal justice is a great way to divide them. >> and do you think very quickly that kamala harris is as dangerous as republicans seem to think she is. >> yes. >> to donald trump? >> she absolute lly is. did you see her on the stage? i want to see that against donald trump. >> evan, same thing to you. it does seem republicans are concerned about her. even being a prosecutor which hurts her with younger voters, it could maybe help her in the general. >> look, thinking about president trump and how he responds to different people with whom he's in competition, you know, he attacks

you see joe biden is sandwiched in between cory booker and kamala harris. harris saying she was raised to be polite. it could get nasty on the stage. >> it has only gotten nasty off stage with booker going after biden over his criminal justice past, the crime bill in 1994 and biden hitting back at cory booker saying, well what about what happened when you were mayor of new york with the police there -- >> newark. >> newark there and stopping and frisking of african-american folks in newark. so i think it is also tough, you got biden who is running away with the black vote so far, last poll showed him 51% of block voters in south carolina support him, 12% support kamala harris. i don't even know if booker is on their radar down there. but if they're there, your biden and fighting over issues that are pertinent to african-american voters with two african-american candidates, it is a tricky situation. >> everyone stick around. the candidates are taking the stage for the cnn democratic presidential debates in just four days. i'll moderate along with dana bash a

he is not being threatened in the numbers by cory booker, one or two percent at the most. he is not being threatened by kamala in the numbers. his challenge is to hold his numbers. >> that's exactly right, chris. he's got to rise to the occasion tonight and play more offense than defense. he's got a record going back to when he was 29 years old when he was first elected to congress. he is now 76. if he allows every single person on that debate stage tonight to attack him on his record, he is not going to do very well. his team knows that. he knows that. he's got some of the best campaign operatives in democratic politics today working on his campaign. they're fully aware of the stakes. i think he'll rise to the occasion tonight. >> danielle, give us a little preview of what's going after cory booker. let's go after kamala. they're the ones who really have nothing to lose. certainly booker has nothing to lose. he is about two points. kamala is one of the two or three people, maybe four who could be the nominee right now, looking at the numbers. >> yeah, absolutely. i think

and then on the other side by senator cory booker who's loaded for bear on biden's bill. i want to bring in keith williams who endorsed senator harris just on monday. thanks so much for joining us, keith. i appreciate you. why is it that you chose to endorse senator harris? >> because she's in alignment with our mission statement and our values. but more importantly she's qualified to be president. >> why do you believe that she's qualified to be president? >> because she's a united states senator of the most popular state in the union, she's former attorney general and she's a lawyer and she's fit the qualification of being the president. >> let me talk to you about the latest quinnipiac poll. you got biden at 53% among black voters. sanders at 8%. harris who you endorsed at 7%. what is this poll saying to you about the way in which former vice president joe biden is speaking to african-american voters in this country despite your endorsement? >> well, joe biden is, you know, he's getting what we call the obama effect. kamala's out here working to earn the african-americ

could this be a way for cory booker to ping and hit them both? >> he has to do something because cory booker has not moved in the polls whatsoever. because he was not on the main stage with joe biden last time, this is going to be his opportunity. he's going to have to hit kamala, they all are. this is a competition, it is a race for the white house, and a very serious presidential race right now. and so they need -- he needs to have some type of action. i do think that criminal justice is a great way to divide them. >> and do you think very quickly that kamala harris is as dangerous as republicans seem to think she is. >> yes. >> to donald trump? >> she absolutely is. did you see her on the stage? i want to see that against donald trump. >> evan, same thing to you. it does seem republicans are concerned about her. even being a prosecutor which hurts her with younger voters, it could maybe help her in the general. >> look, thinking about president trump and how he responds to different people with whom he's in competition, you know, he attacks al

one of those people clearly for cory booker is joe biden. he thinks he has a lot of issues. biden is at 22% in the polls, booker is at 3% in the polls, this is his moment, and he's got to make it, he's got to make that moment himself, and he thinks he can do it with biden. >> we're seeing the former vice president go after harris, taking swipes, sometimes by name, sometimes not we should point out. it's obvious who we're talking about, including going after her medicare for all plans. >> you have to find 30 to 40 trillion dollars somewhere, where are you going to find it. they're not going to tax the middle class, because we don't need to do that. what is this, a fantasy world here? >> i think it's interesting, he also said this on a radio show, i thought we were friends, i hope we still will be. going on to say, that she asked him to come out to the convention, to be the guy outside of california to nominate her for the senate seat. talking about how they worked together a lot. that she and beau biden were attorneys general that took on the banks? what's the strategy in tha

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biden's clapping back at kamala harris, we would be remiss if we continue to forget about cory booker on stage. what i think is amazing, and what i'm the most excited about tonight is this stage looks like america. this stage looks like. >> what did you call it last night? >> white night. >> it looks like what the democratic party is supposed to be, it's a big tent. a big tent on ideas, it's a big tent on geographic diversity, ethnic diversity and the women to men ratio is not too bad. >> how about you? >> i agree with angela, tonight is going to be a plethora of diversity in our party, which i think is fantastic, it reflects what america looks like. but i'm watching for something else, you know, we've seen the tension that was reported last night between the moderates and the progressives, and whether the party is going too far left to really speak to the center voters of america, here's our fundamental problem in the democratic party. what i'm hoping the democratic candidates will do tonight, we offer up a plethora of policies that speak to our brains, that speak to our common sense

here is senator cory booker. >> it is canceling debt for people of higher income brackets, going into jobs or wall street jobs to give them the ability to pay back the money. >> why should they pay the tax debt for a millionaire or those at goldman sachs. >> those are not the people with student debt. they are majority working class or lower income people and their african-americans and latinos and they are struggling and many of the people right today unbelievable and i talk to them every day, they can't afford to get married and have kids or buy a house or to buy a car. there is a tremendous weight of oppression around their shoulders. and they were told to go to college and get good bayi-- good-paying jobs and didn't happen. if we could give a trillon and a half dollars to the top 1% and large profitable corporations like amazon, $11 billion profits last year owned by the wealthiest guy in this country and doesn't pay a nickel in federal income taxes if we could do that we could save a millennial generation and cancel those debts. >> former vice president biden is defending his sup

® ♪ all right >>> welcome back, we are talking 2020 and cory booker is escalating his attack against joe biden. as the candidates fight for support of black voters, booker went after biden over his criminal justice plan. booker defended that attack. >> you call him an architect of mass incarceration, is that an argument that you will make on the debate stage. >> i will speak truth to power and watching the crime bills of the '80s and '90s that he put ento plae into place. this is something should be talked about. i am hoping to have this conversation and we will. joining me now, the guy you just saw with senator booker, garret haake. should we say the discussion of policy, what else did senator booker tell you? >> reporter: i think we may be reaching full feud sta which you say hestatus here. it is something where if you are going to say these things in interviews and on stages where the vice president is not present, eventually you are going to have to say to him directly. the two men will be on stage together in detroit. this potentially sets up the kind of show down that frankly b

they know him much better than they know cory booker or kamala harris. not that they can't do well eventually. and going after biden in sort of a gratuitous way i think could backfire on them and could solidify it. >> i think that's what's so interesting about biden in his direct comments about senator harris, her record and senator booker's record on issues of race. in civil rights, you could look at that and say it's risky for a 76-year-old white guy to go after two african-american senators on issues of race. but he feels comfortable, perhaps, because of what joe's talking about. his long relationship. >> i think he recognizes now relative to the last debate he does need to engage with these rifles. he can't just do. in as the elder statesman. he can't stay above the fray. he needs to engage and defend his record. but there's a risk here for joe biden. there's a risk for the other candidates going after joe biden but i think a bigger risk for joe biden punching back playing their game. he is so well liked right now but you can see his favorability sli

and cory booker over weekend on "meet the press" said he had some significant concerns that joe biden, if he were to be the nominee, would not be able to rise to the challenge of talking about race and healing racial divisions in the country. so it's a multi-pronged attack, but the question is, what effect is it having so far. and joe biden still leads among african-american voters in this poll with 36% support. however, when we asked who is the candidate who can best handle talking about race relations, kamala harris leads with 29%. >> a lot of democrats, though, they think that biden is still best qualified, best capable of beating donald trump in a general election, some of them are getting irritated by the attacks on biden from some of the other candidates. >> this is his strong suit. there's no doubt about that. we know that democrats, more than six out of ten democrats prefer a candidate who seems that they can take down trump rather than one that agrees with them in the positions. and when we ask democrats, who can take down donald trump? it is clear that democrats, 43% of them

i don't think cory booker is as strong as some people on his campaign might hope. he is not a top-tier contender because his campaign of love and positive feeling has not really worked out. i think people like kamala harris, elizabeth warren, those are more serious threats to biden right now. >> yeah. senator booker still trying to qualify for those september debates, as we know, that five of the top candidates already have. let's turn to senator harris and the bump that she saw in the polls. you mentioned her performance in the first debate as it relates to vice president biden. that, you know, boosts her to second place in some polls. now if we look at the latest fox news poll, she's at about 10%. things have flattened for her. why? to what do you attribute that? >> i think it's just a natural progression when you have a nice debate bump. that sometimes wears off after a while. so the key for her is to keep herself in the conversation and, you know, show to the democratic primary electorate that she's someone to be reckoned with, and most people don't know what s

cory booker will react this hour. >>> and the founder of an african-american history museum found dead in the trunk of a car. what the autopsy results reveal. >>> welcome to "the lead," i'm jake tapper. the politics lead, president trump is not backing away from his stunningly racist attack on the group of minority members of congress, instead trying to defend it, denying it ras racist and spewing more divisiveness. >> these are people that, in my opinion, hate our country. all i'm saying if they're not happy here, they could leave. they can leave and you know what -- i'm sure they'll be many people that won't miss them. >> yesterday mr. trump tweeted that progressive democratic koltwoman who, quote, originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe should, quote, go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places and then come back and show us how it is. you can't leave fast enough. the president was seeming to identify rasheed tlaib and ayanna pressley and alexandria ocasio-cortez and ilhan omar who came to the u.s. as a child, a ref

you had kirsten hillenbrand and cory booker. the question is how does kamala harris fit in there and how does she put herself out as the more pragmatic type in this race while holding those personal values. >> i want to bring my team in student yio studio, moveon.org, karine pierre, susan del percio. let's talk about the last month, elijah cummings and what he has said and done about the city of baltimore. >> i totally agree with you. first we'll see more diversity. you have kamala harris, cory booker, tulsi -- i think it will change the stage a little bit. the candidates will focus more on donald trump in making that contrast. i think this is that opportunity to do that, to look presidential, to show people you can be on that debate stage with donald trump if you make it as the nominee come the general election, and i think that is a key thing they also have to do tonight. >> how important is this for joe biden to stand up and fight? because the big question is can you face off against donald trump? last night we saw a number o

i think the one to watch here is cory booker. the question if the situation had been reversed and booker were the one on stage at the last debate last time, could he have gotten the racial slug in at joe biden that kamala harris-- >> he basically did, he basically called him a racist. >> can he do it to his face? it may be do or die for cory booker, he's languishing at the bottom of the polls. and offered to shave his head for charity. >> with boris johnson as the new british prime minister. will the relationship between the u.s. and britain be better? the british ambassador to the u.s. will discuss next. ♪ when you have diabetes, dietary choices are crucial to help manage blood sugar, but it can be difficult to find a balanced solution. try great-tasting boost glucose control. the patented blend of protein, fat, and carbs is part of a balanced formula that's clinically shown to help manage blood sugar levels. in fact, it provides 60% more protein than the leading diabetes nutrition shake and contains only 1 carb choice. enjoy

booker: miss amada, it is cory booker. first of all, thank you for what you're doing to inspire, educate our children. but this by tells me you are a great teacher. thank you for inspiring him. you are trying to prepare him to be a future leader, but i just i'm trying to get him to shave his head. [laughter] hope to meet you in the future. ok, mom. sorry, grandma, get over here. all right, thank you, ma'am. hold the phone. i am going to drop you real quick. hey, how are you? >> it is a pleasure. sen. booker: thank you for being here. thank you. it was my pleasure. really my pleasure. hello. >> john martin told me good things about you. sen. booker: he is the man. >> yes. >> awesome. you are the man. sen. booker: we are the people. >> yes. you really moved me. sen. booker: so grateful. thank you for being here. >> that was wonderful. sen. booker: we will put her in the middle. >> good idea. you got that right. you got that right. sen. booker: one more. thank you. thank you all for being here. >> that was really inspiring. s

so i think you're going to see cory booker go after him in i think you'll also see kamala harris. you'll see a bunch of candidates, because he's the frontrunner, try to take a whack at him and make a dent. >> you'll also see long shot candidates who have absolutely nothing to lose lobbing a few grenades as well. joel, thank you, anna palmer, thank you as well. >>> a feature of president trump's 2016 campaign were the familiar refrains at his rallies. one of the most prominent of those refrains being "drain the swamp." but what actually is the swamp? well, that's what a brand-new msnbc docuseries is examining. it's called "american swamp," and it follows two very familiar faces here, katy tur and jacob soboroff, on an immersive journey as they travel throughout the u.s. capitol and all around the country. they talk about everything from political dysfunction to president trump's business ties and the way dark money impacts our elections. and look who we have here, msnbc's jacob soboroff and katy tur. >> she's back. >> she's back. >> i feel like i want to jump into that seat. >> you

one of the challenges is cory booker, you haven't mentioned him. here is a guy who wants to run as a successful mayor. in fact, i think joe biden has what he can push back on. >> kennedy: and he has been. >> darrell: that's got to be part of -- joe biden has to be joe. joe biden, and i'm not going to vote for them, but i've got to tell you at the end of the day at least he says that we all have to work to give it. nobody else on the stage and the first tier has really proven a willingness to ever do that. >> carley: kennedy, do you think he still has it in him? >> kennedy: i think he's a weak frontrunner. to your point, that's what cory booker has been during the last week and a half. he's been making very pointed attacks at joe biden. he did at the naacp, he's picking his record apart. particularly the 1994 crime bil bill. if he thinks kamala harris was a challenge in the first debate, he sandwich between kamala harris and cory booker. if they were smart they would have a pact to not go after each other but really take out that front runner. becau

him and you already have cory booker responding to this plan today. he tweeted out it's not enough to tell us what you're going to do for our communities. show us what you've done for the last 40 years. you created this system. we'll mismantle it. booker didn't name biden but his campaign has told us that biden is the intended recipient of that tweet. >> and i would say there are going to be a lot of younger voters in the cycle. we saw in 2018 a lot of younger voters who don't remember what was happening. when you look at those people all they see are white millennials in the street with no problem and then there are still people who are incarcerated. so biden is going to have to tell the narrative how he came to this position, which is going to be really challenging. on kamala harris, her prosecutorial record is a vulnerability. if i were here, i would be talking to van jones and some of those people right now. >> she went on the break fast club and talked a lot about this. >> but she also came out with legislation. her mair marijuana, she has rev an

the comments from cory booker are reprehensible. trish: i want to show them to the viewers because you brought it up and so did doug. cory booker is trying to pay tough guy and late-night tv. donald trump is a guy who hurts you and my testosterone makes we feel like punching him which would be bad for this elderly out of shape man that he is. >> i think he could take you. not that we want to encourage that. i should point out mr. booker's latest polling isn't even above 2%. he's not too popular. so if democrats can't win on policy, violent rhetoric will be their tactic? >> representative scalise almost died because someone tried to kill republicans because they were playing softball. to inflict harm on anyone who is a trump supporter or the president himself. trish: some people say he deserves it because he dared to support donald trump. doug will be you usually -- doug, you usually have some voice of sanity that makes me feel better. you say it's not as past bad as you have think. but you have say we have been here in history befor

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>> cory booker. kamala harris is going to beon side and cory booker on the other. he's beenin telegraph he wantes to go after biden's bill. as you mentioned, kamala harris, i wouldn't be sewer prized if we wouldn't d up seeing an act 2-a2. so it's not going to be easy for joe bideds he n a better debate performance tonight. but flanked by both booker and harris, he's going to haves work cut out if him. >> thanks so much.l there wil be more later and at" ws4" at 11:00. >>> let's get to the area and the rains. some have been kind of dramatic, doug. >> get choked up about it. >> what's azing, you look at the pink. you notice around the d.c. area, severe thunderstorm watch, but no storms around. they're down to the south now. calvert county seeing a pretty good storm. severe thunderstorm warning for spotsylvania. i talked about this as soon as i ame in with amelia draper earlier today. cloud cover arou d.c. this was around 2:00. this helped with the instability around the d.c. metro area. we did not see much sunshine at a until after 2:00 or 3:00. sunshine to the south

il add other experts and cory booker later tonight. i wanted to get right to it. is it a surrender or not what we saw in the rose garden. >> yes, but his base won't accept that. they won't say that. it's a surrender. he wanted to do it through the census and the idea was totally partisan. that's what the supreme court said. they said this is ridiculous. you're saying you're only doing it really for partisan reasons. he couldn't get around that and couldn't figure it out. what they tried to do at the justice department when we they removed all the lawyers hanning this case, the rest of the lower court says this is beyond and he had to cave. >> with him cave and spinning for his base as you say, is there a silver lininging that however loudly and plys leadingly the president goes along with the courts what we also saw today is the rule of law holding because the question will not be added to the census? the supreme court is the last word. do you take any silver lining in that? >> i do except that there's been so much made of it i'm afraid a lot of people will not tr

senator cory booker on stage right now, trying to make the case to african-american voters. meanwhile, moments from now joe biden will hold a community event in sumter, south carolina. jacqui heinrich has more on what the campaigns are doing. >> reporter: hey, mike. since the beginning of his campaign, joe biden's really chosen not to share the stage with other candidates when possible save, of course, the debates where it propelled senator kamala harris ahead after an exchange over civil rights. biden's keeping with that trend, notably not attending the essence festival in new orleans where senators harris, booker, warren and beto o'rourke are speaking to a mostly african-american crowd. harris used her moment to announce a new plan to close the wealth gap. she said after generations of discrimination, black families need a real shot at home ownership, and she pledged to invest $100 billion to help families with down payments and closing costs. >> by taking these challenges on, we can close that gap, and that not only lifts us, black america, it lifts up all of america. [ap

how joe biden and cory booker are going after one another, coming up on "velshi and ruhle." build attendance for an event. help people find their way. fastsigns designed new directional signage. ...and got them back on track. get started at fastsigns.com. >>> we are now less than one week away from the democratic debate of the 2020 election. but today several candidates are taking a different stage addressing predominantly african-american voters at the national urban league conference and while all eyes were on robert mueller's testimony yesterday in d.c., two presidential hopefuls took jabs at one another's criminal justice records in detroit. >> i'm disappointed it's taken joe biden years and years until he was running for president to actually say he made a mistake and now that he has unveiled his crime bill for a guy who helped to be an architect of mass incarceration, this is an inadequate solution. >> cory knows that is not true. if you look at the mayor's record in newark, his police department was stopping and frisking people, mostly african-american men. >> joining