he can't do that with rudy giuliani. we have evidence in the intelligence committee report that the president told anyone who is working on ukraine, rudy is my guy on ukraine. and that rudy giuliani has represented the people, that he is the president's person on ukraine. so, they're inseparable. so, if rudy is to be held to account, that means the president has to be held to account. >> jason. >> yeah, you can't say that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. i think the critical thing here if we look at the stepping back, nancy pelosi said something really fascinated today when she said we're going through with impeachment. she was adamant about this not being political, this not being partisan. this is not about 2020 from the standpoint of switching the polls or getting undecided voters. it's about 2020 from the standpoint of election integrity. if you have a president who is established he will try to cheat if we don't hold him accountable for trying to disrupt the process, then we can't move forwar

rudy giuliani was just working the phones. he was just working the phones. he was talking to lev parnas, the omb. this was all leading up to the aid being frozen. >> the first one was literally on the day the ambassador was pulled back from the ukraine, marie yovanovitch, and there are calls to the omb, lev parnas, and the mysterious dash one. >> this is the reason phone records are so important. the second thing you need as a prosecutor and investigator, when you get something like this, nice highlighted phone records, someone might be able to explain what was said during these calls, and who that might be could be lev parnas. all of the indications are he's trying to koo ing ting to coope congress. you go through the phone calls one at a time and say, what did you discuss here. there's a lot they still need to work on. >> and lev parnas's lawyer has been very aggressive at making allegations. these are the outlines of a fact pattern that's pretty clear. rudy giuliani apparently called omb eight times the day marie yovanovitch was recalled. have you ever ca

that rudy giuliani is indicated that he wants to so i think that's a moot point. as it relates to the other members of the executive branch the president has to make decisions not only for him but for the presidency. i think it would be to the president's advantage to have people testify who could exculpate him but we want to preserve an executive branch where there are out of the box strategy sessions where people come up with crazy ideas and reject those ideas and hone them and if everyone is always worried from now going forward that if you suggest something to the president or you're engaging in conversations about an upcoming challenge, that that's going to be read out to the public verbatim. so i know it's a tough balance. >> they'll say the president abused his power by soliciting foreign interference in the election and so that the investigation of joe biden -- even your witness this week, even professor turley said that the president's phone call was not appropriate. it was not perfect. can you explain to the american people why you think it's okay for th

coming up rudy giuliani shadow diplomacy extending beyond ukraine. new reporting indicates giuliani who is a private citizen, not a representative of the u.s. government, was trying to negotiate an exit for venezuela's president. giuliani's efforts are raising serious concerns among actual diplomats. does not believe president trump is someone young people can look up to. we'll explain in a bit. >> i don't think that president trump as a person is a role model for a lot of different youth. that's me personally. i don't like the way he tweets, the things he says, his word choices. >> all right. we've got much more to get to so stay with us. >>> welcome back to "hardball." rudy giuliani's dirt digging in ukraine wasn't his only attempt to insert himself in u.s. diplomacy. his back channel work extended to venezuela contradicting official u.s. policy in the process. giuliani along with former texas congressman pete sessions participated in a september 2018 phone call with venezuelan president nicolas maduro. according to the post, both were part of a sh

he was not happy to be in the same breath as rudy giuliani. and so that i think is where you see barr's sort of caution coming from. >> i'm not sure the president is listening to that advice since this weekend he was talking in quite optimistic terms about what rudy giuliani is going to unearth from his latest trip to ukraine. and -- i mean, the thing is that we know that rudy giuliani and often the president are susceptible to bad information and conspiracy theories. so rudy will come up with something while there and then come back and will have to get an earful of it. but it was reminiscent of a different time that donald trump went on a fishing expedition. so watch these two moments. >> he says he has a lot of good information. i have not spoken to him about that information. but rudy as you know has been one of the great crime fighters of the last 50 years. he has not told me what he's found. but i think he wants to go before congress and say and also to the attorney general and the department of justice. i hear he's found plenty. we're l

we don't know whether rudy giuliani has met with the president yet today. most likely there's some sort of meeting on strategy going on. the president clearly put out by the vote and taking a very strong reaction against it. >> that's right, andrea. and you can sort of see the two sides of how the president views this. on the one hand, he doesn't like the fact that he is now the fourth president to have articles of impeachment voted out of the house committee. i want to be very specific with the language there because of course he would become the third president to be impeached if that does happen next week. we expect the full house to weigh in on it next week. but he doesn't like that from an historical perspective. i was traveling with him in london for the nato summit. he didn't like that that was hovering over his meetings with other world leaders there. this is something that bothers him on a very visceral level. on the other side, andrea, he understands the politics of it, the fact that once this goes to a senate trial, by all accounts he's going to

there's rudy giuliani at the white house. what are the odds the president's loose cannon attorney was there to peddle his discredited conspiracy theory, seemingly discredited by everybody except giuliani and the president, that ukraine was behind the interference in the 2016 election, not russia? i'd say those odds are pretty good. but let's remember it was giuliani's pot-stirring in ukraine that kicked off the whole impeachment inquiry. now "the wall street journal" is reporting that as giuliani was returning last saturday from a trip to ukraine, while his plane was still taxiing down the runway, the president called to ask, quote, what did you get? giuliani's reply, more than you can imagine, which seemed to please his client. >> he says he has a lot of good information. i hear he's found plenty. >> hmm. another thing that's likely to please his client, giuliani is not just digging for dirt in ukraine. he's reportedly working on a tv series about it because as far as the reality tv president is concerned, if you didn't see

dan a bash has had her own conversations with rudy giuliani. she's had her own unique conversations. i know you spoke with him reasonly. the idea that he would come back and lay low, i don't think anyone was expecting it. do you think there's a plan, dare i say strategy for the conversations he's having and the people he's choosing to have them with? >> no. the only thing i know or that he has said about it is that he has one but there's no evidence of that yet. laying low, of course you're right, that's not his m.o. at all. he wanted everybody to know that he went to ukraine, he wanted everybody to know that he claims that he unearthed a lot of things that we don't know but when it comes to, well, what is it? it's in a safe, it's in a vault, i'm not going to tell you yet, we're working on it. >> we'll have to wait and see. he made some comments talking about liberal billionaire george soros, "he's hardly a jew, i'm more of a jew than he is. he went on to say my attitude is f it. we can fill in the f. as we're seeing the public giuliani and get

giuliani, there it is, "rudy giuliani: emperor of the city." he is head of his own public communications firm. thank you for coming in and welcome. >> thank you. >> there are on my book shelf at home is your original book, and i picked it up the other day and leased through it, having read it contemporaneously. i know you get asked. what do you think happened to rudy? to add to that question, were there people in his life who saw this coming? >> well, you know, i think he's made a lot of choices about how to use his fame from 9/11 that he may end up regretting. but he's in too deep right now. he's in this moment where -- it's a surreal moment where the president of the united states is on the brink of impeachment, and giuliani is in ukraine still looking for dirt on joe biden. it's almost as though everything has come down to this moment for rudy giuliani. like, he needs to come through with the goods on biden just as the u.s. attorney is thinking about indicting him. this is an extraordinary moment. >> for people who don't live in the new york

and what rudy giuliani does is he gums up the works even more. and throws in more names and more and meanwhile trump is out there saying read the transcript. perfect call. very simple and consistent messaging. where as we in the media are like well, there were two lawyers who represent this guy and work for this oligarch. and people's eyes glaze over. this is how trump and giuliani win the case with the public. >> yeah. another question for you. but we're out of time. >> next time. >> iou. >> the final presidential debate of the year is coming to cnn. a critical night for the contract trying to breakthrough. the debate live from l.a. watch it on cnn coverage starts at 8:00 p.m. eastern thursday night. up next an army community commemorating the battle of the bull posting a picture to facebook. they posted a picture of a nazi war criminal. how, why and what they saying now. kraft. for the win win. male anchor: ...an update on the cat who captured our hearts. female anchor: how often should you clean your fridge? stay tuned to find out. male anchor

impeach rudy giuliani's client. it's clear that the former new york city mayor is really trying to re-emerge after sort of a period of quiet, after many of these hearings to try to say, we're still fighting. we're still pushing and still focused, frankly, on the 2020 election. >> michael warren, kelly magisman, got it right that time. thank you. appreciate it. >>> president trump is expected to speak at any minute. his latest reaction to the ongoing house debate, and tomorrow's full house impeachment vote is next. stay with cnn. ♪ ♪ enjoy your prime rib! anyone ever call you, "meat santa"? no, that's... weird. happy holidays. enjoy. next customer? enjoy. i am not for ignoring the first sign of a cold. i am for shortening my cold, with zicam! zicam is completely different. unlike most other cold medicines, zicam is clinically proven to shorten colds. i am a zifan for zicam! oral or nasal. that's ensure max protein, with high protein and 1 gram sugar. it's a sit-up, banana! bend at the waist! i'm tryin'! keep it u

what rudy giuliani is saying out loud, president trump has said out loud. he said it out loud to zelensky when he talked about yovanovitch on the phone call on july 25th and that she was a bad person and he -- on the south lawn also said out loud about wanting ukraine to investigate the bidens. they should absolutely do that. this is not just rudy giuliani on a one-off, this is a pattern of behavior from the president himself. >> yeah, and again, i think you both make the key point here, which is this isn't just an issue of giuliani. it's an issue of the president of the united states, and the president has admitted to or confessed to much of the conduct for which he will be impeached tomorrow, and the question ultimately is do republicans want to give him a pass on that or do they feel in the senate that it's not worth the removal ratio. all i'm saying is that it just presents an appearance problem for the president. what possibly does he have to gain by giuliani talking today, tomorrow on the eve of the impeachment vote? >> nothing. i mean, bad headlines,

castor, you wrote in your report that rudy giuliani, that the ukrainians themselves, knew that rudy giuliani, the president's personal lawyer, was a conduit to convince president trump of that president zelensky was a serious reformer. correct? >> well, ukrainians knew that -- >> sir, isn't that what you said in your report? >> rudy had the president's ear. >> and he was a conduit. let me put up slide 14 if i may. we have your report here. it says the ukrainians knew that he meaning rudy giuliani, was a conduit to convince president trump that president zelensky was serious about rer form. is that what you wrote in your report, sir? okay. and in fact during the call, president trump asked president sclen ski to speak to his personal lawyer about ukrainian matters that president trump was interested in. >> you're referring to rudy. >> yes. and in fact, zelensky said oh, we knew that and he's been in touch with my aides, correct? >> right. ukrainians are the ones that first, president zelensky first brings up mr. giuliani on the call. >> because they know he was a conduit to the president and

you believe that rudy giuliani, mick mulvaney, mike pouchl yo should all come testify now? >> well, i believe that rudy giuliani has indicated that he wants to, so i think that's a moot point as it relates to the other members of the executive branch. the president has to make decisions not only for him but for the presidency. i think it would be to the president's advantage to have people testify who could exculpate him. >> okay, republicans have the right to call their own witnesses. why aren't they calling for these officials to testify then? >> well, let's look at this in a broader scope. if this was in the 1990s when bill clinton was going through his impeachment hearing, this -- this relationship between a president and a personal attorney slash friend, that's political suicide. but today in 2019 the finger has been pointed at rudy giuliani and has been pointed at mick mulvaney, it's been pointed at pompeo. and yet people understand they have been dook the president's bidsing according to the witnesses and transcripts we heard from the hearings, the public hearings. s

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so quite a comment there by rudy giuliani, as you can imagine. let's bring in msnbc analyst danny danny to weigh in on this. you have nancy pelosi holding up the articles of impeachment and as you can seen the president has reacted, so too have others coming to her defense like chuck schumer. how likely do you think that she can withhold transmitting those articles of impeachment from transmitting them to the senate? is she bound by any legal framework or time period that she has to hand them over? >> we lawyers have volumes and volumes of leather-bound books that tell us exactly how and when, how many days we have to file documents. when it comes to impeachment, there is no such guidance. it is a vacuum. and nancy pelosi has developed a clever strategy in that vacuum, which is, well, netechnically w have to transmit them for the senate to get them, therefore, we're using this as leverage to extract some assure answers of fairness at the trial. it's even more high level chess. we can't choose our house managers, our prosecutors, until you, the se

why would you be meeting with rudy giuliani? it's because this president feels totally above the law. he's lock step with the republican. what is the check on this president? >> i want to ask you since i have you here, you are the co-chair of the bernie sanders campaign. he made a controversial endorsement for someone who is running for katy hill's seat in california, for chank weager. i'm sure you're aware of several sexist comments, for instance, rating women on a scale of 1 to 10 as to whether men should be allowed to perform oral sex on them. we're talking really gross stuff. what is your thought on endorsing bernie sanders for this person? >> i wish katy hill were running for the seat. she should not have been asked to resign and she should not have resigned. she has a big future. my understanding is he has apologized for them. he has said they're clearly inappropriate, many of whom were disgusting. senator sanders has endorsed him because of his platform on medicare for all, on free public college, on reducing defense spen

also the phone logs revealed in the house intel report showing rudy giuliani's numerous phone calls to the white house last spring including a mysterious unidentified number designated as one and with the impeachment hearings in high gear, is rudy giuliani meeting in ukraine in an effort to defend the president? we'll see what he is telling cnn. but first, breaking news out of hawaii tonight. two civilian employees shot to death and one wounded by a u.s. sailor on joint base pearl harbor-hickam. the shooter also dead. joining me now on the phone is lydia robertson, the spokesperson for the navy region in hawaii. thank you so much commander. we appreciate you joining us. two civilian shipyard workers were killed. what can you tell us about this? >> well, i can tell you that within minutes of hearing shots our security forces responded immediately and we put the base into a lock down and shelter in place. security responded very quickly. we were able to team with local law enforcement as well to ensure that we could get the situation in hand and as many people as safe as possible. the ba

and so rudy giuliani -- >> it still wouldn't explain the quid pro quo. it wouldn't explain asking a foreign government for help in investigating your political rival in domestic elections, in a domestic election. >> to the trump team, it could, because it comes down to motive. yes, it may be true that hunter biden, the investigation could help president trump, but if the overriding concern was a real concern, about hunter biden, and corruption, and there is a connection between burisma, hunter biden and corruption, then the president will argue that my article two power as the chief law enforcement agent for the entire country overrides the fact that i might have also gotten some benefit from investigating hunter biden. i have been saying for a long time, it is an argument that i don't think a lot of people will buy. i see from your expression that you're not really buying it. and i tend to agree with you. but that is -- >> then go to the fbi. >> but they've closed off every other escape hatch, and this is where the defense is leading to. it is leading t

giuliani was in ukraine as you said just last week continuing this effort to get ukraine to do what was the president was trying to get them to do to say something that will undermine joe biden in fact this is so bad that apparently there are reports that attorney general barra has said that this is not helping the president that rudy giuliani is not helping the president what it is though is it's really brazen i think what the president and mr giuliani are doing is they're basically saying we're going to do this is anyone going to stop us and the answer so far is no thinking about the republican argument as well we heard steve cost of a lawyer saying this before talking about the democrats basically being obsessed with impeachment bringing out the comments in the past of congresswoman. richard it to me but was i was going to say a lot of it is risky to sleep and the idea that well if we don't have the president then he'll just get reelected is that an effective strategy by turning this into a you're trying to get rid of the elected president rather than the president might have don

heartburn from republicans, whenever we're discussing rudy giuliani. i mean remember, he was giving tv interviews, almost every night, talking about his, talking about this episode, trying to defend the president. there is really i think a sense of exasperation on the part of republicans that they feel they can't control rudy giuliani, especially at this stage in his life, i mean he is going to be who he is, and nobody feels like they can control it, and then in respect to him traveling to ukraine, i think there is just, you know, it is sort of a page out of the president's own play book, right, when there is something that he is being accused of doing wrong, the president just sort of says it or does it out in the open, i think rudy is taking a page straight out of the president's play book. >> you can't help but think about the split screen here, with rudy giuliani meeting with former officials, in ukraine, at the same time as an impeachment inquiry with regards to a phone call to the ukrainian president between the ukrainian president and president

and rudy told -- rudy giuliani told him, more than you can imagine. and this was actually shortly before the president came out and talked to reporters on the south lawn of the white house that day and said that he heard that rudy giuliani had found plenty on his trip and that he would brief the attorney general and congress on his findings. >> plenty and more than we can imagine. but how much do we actually know about this report that he's putting together? >> what we know is that he said it's going to be 20 pages long. we don't know what it will say, but i would expect it to say a lot of the sorts of things that giuliani has said before. we know that he spoke to several of the same officials or former officials that he's spoken to previously, like the former prosecutor general lutsenko, another former prosecutor viktor shokin. so we don't know that he necessarily spoke to anybody new here and that he's necessarily going to come back with different information than he's been saying so far. >> and there's also a documentary -- and i use that word loos

that appears to be rudy giuliani's plan. it is a gamble and it does not come without risk. >> so this documentary that you mentioned, it is called you ukranian witnesses destroy schiff's case and of course that is for the oan. and now does this trip increase his legal exposure because he's putting himself in the limelight here? he could be seen as trying to tamper with the case. >> well, there is that and then in addition to the extent he is asking for anything from a foreign government, that could be problematic in terms of campaign finance law. it is unlawful to ask for anything of value from a foreign government. but on the other hand, he may just be filming a documentary as many people do, they film politically based documentaries abroad and that arguably is not a violation of campaign finance law. so rudy is walking a very fine line here, but he must believe very clearly in the legitimacy of what he is doing because it is such a risk. after everybody is scrutinizing what he is doing in ukraine to stay in ukraine and con

rudy giuliani says trump supports his dirt digging on a political rival in ukraine. so who is giuliani meeting with to get this information? plus unseating lindsay graham. the senator's challenger who is raising big money is my guest tonight. does he have a chance? let's go out front. good evening. i'mier u. i'm erin burnett. a six-page rant from the president of the united states. president trump sending this letter to house speaker nancy pelosi just hour ahead of his all, but certain impeachment and trump knows it is all but certain. tonight he remains defiant. >> do you take any responsibility for the fact that you're about to be impeached? >> no. i don't take any. zero, to put it mildly. >> well, the president, with that stoney-faced glare speaking right before sending this letter to pelosi, and this is at times unhinged, he calls impeachment ugly and he rants that the mostly -- the people at the salem witch trial accused of being witches in the 1600s had more due process than he does. trump accusing pelosi of being spiteful and having unfettered contempt and egr

two associates of rudy giuliani arrested this morning. due in court in virginia later today, facing criminal charges for violating campaign finance laws it really all has to do with ukraine. >> their names are igor fruman and lev parnas and they were arrested at a washington airport with what prosecutors say were one-way tickets out of the country >> rudy giuliani has previously stated that he has worked with the two men on efforts to get ukraine to investigate former vice president joe biden >> seth: i can't believe a guy who looks like a vampire had a henchman named igor. is this a -- [ laughter ] -- mary shelley novel? what was igor's job? to open rudy's coffin? "master, arise." [ laughter and applause now, the danger for rudy and for trump is that these guys might flip on them and give prosecutors more evidence about their scheme and now that two of his close associates have been arrested and charged with crimes, rudy might be regretting the fact he's been all over tv blabbing about his involvement in all of this in fact, here are som

bert: rudy giuliani, the president's personal lawyer, back in ukraine this week. what is he doing and that is white house up to? josh: rudy giuliani is over in ukraine with one american news network, right wing conservative network, meeting with, prosecuto some seen by the u.s. government to be ethically deficient, meeting with some of his alliese's had t with before. he's essentially doing what he did the first te all over again, looking for more evidence to tout the narrative that ukraine interfered with the election and was o beeut debunks of ways but wt rudy is trying to do is to show there is something here, even if it's just a kernel, it gives people a chance to talk about what he's finding there and he's not giving up. there were lots of white houseal offi and g.o.p. allies who to what one person called theack scene of the crime toy essentiaoon dance on stage of the scene of the crime. that was a quote we had in a piece, it's a remarkable move. kimberly: when you're talking about the timing for the democrats, one thing that has united democrats about tng ti

giuliani, there it is, ""rudy giuliani: emperor of the city." he is head of his own public communications firm. thank you for coming in and welcome. >> thank you. >> there are on my book shelf at home is your original book, and i picked it up the other day and leased through it, having read it contemporaneously. i know you get asked. what do you think happened to rudy? to add to that question, were there people in his life who saw this coming? >> well, you know, i think he's made a lot of choices about how to use his fame from 9/11 that he may end up regretting. but he's in too deep right now. he's in this moment where -- it's a surreal moment where the president of the united states is on the brink of impeachment, and giuliani is in ukraine still looking for dirt on joe biden. it's almost as though everything has come down to this moment for rudy giuliani. like, he needs to come through with the goods on biden just as the u.s. attorney is thinking about indicting him. this is an extraordinary moment. >> for people who don't live in the new york

it also included calls from rudy giuliani. have the ranking member as well as the reporter making and taking calls from these individuals. republicans are saying that they say leadership has thousands of pages of data. this is concerning. the data was collected from at&t. they did not get it from the individuals. at&t turned over records. role aboutt a clear whether or not the telecommunications companies have to turn over this data. there is a lot of debate over that. now you have congress angry about it. the majority leader and the minority whip got into a debate on the house floor. is accusing the democrats of spying on the republicans. that is a big word to use. it is a big accusation. it has really started something on capitol hill. you might see the partisanship ratcheted up. >> a story to watch, for sure. thank you both. >> the house will be an order. provided america unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public policy events from washington dc and around the country. c-span is brought

again, rudy giuliani saying all of this the day before the president is going to be impeached. basically running around saying, yeah, i did it. joining us now, jeffrey toobin, cnn's chief legal analyst, joe lockhart, former clinton white house press secretary and bianna golodryga. i want to start with where we sit this morning because, by tomorrow night, president trump will become the third u.s. president ever to be impeached, joe. in the new development overnight, to me, is more and more of these democrats in districts that president trump won. for whom this was supposed to be a very difficult vote. and maybe it is. but they're almost all coming out and saying they're going to vote to impeach president trump. joe cunningham of south carolina, glen mcadams, lee slotkin. and the list goes on and on and on. what do you see as happening here. why? >> you know, i think it's a tough political decision, and at the end of the day, they looked at and watched the hearings and read the depositions and just said, i'm just going to do what's right. i don't think it's more complicated than

. >>> and there are phone records they link trump's guy, rudy giuliani, to the white house budget office and they link devin nunes with lev parnas, who may be working for the feds. all of this on the next wave of impeachment hearings, donald trump is in london. kamala harris is out of the race. we have it all covered as "the 11th hour" gets under way this tuesday night. good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york, day 1,048 of this trump administration. and tonight, as expected, the house intelligence committee moved the impeachment case to the next step. it was a straight-up party-line vote 13-9, and with it comes a rather withering 300-page report that methodically accuses the president of the united states of wrongdoing in dealings with ukraine. now our attention becomes focused on the house judiciary committee, the one chaired by jerry nadler, democrat of new york, which is holding its first impeachment hearing mere hours from now at 10:00 a.m. judiciary will use the report to draft articles of impeachment. details of the intel committee's findings were re

giuliani has been up to all week in ukraine. >> is the president aware of what will rudy giuliani -- >> that's a question between rudy and the president. i haven't spoken to him about that, obviously, rudy giuliani can speak for himself. >> reporter: noting giuliani was a central figure in the essentially dirt for dollars deal for the leader of ukraine. >> i don't for a moment believe that the president is telling the truth when he says he doesn't know why rudy was there digging up dirt. as has been pointed out, he has specifically asked any number of people to take directions from rudy giuliani on the burisma/biden investigation that he so desperately wanted. >> reporter: hundreds of the nation's top legal scholars have written an open letter stating that the president has met the threshold for impeachment adding his conduct is precisely the type of threat to our democracy that the founders feared when they included the remedy of impeachment in the constitution. the president is sounding like a broken record tweeting where's the fake whistle-blower? when's whistle-blower number two,

jonathan, also new today, rudy giuliani, potentially presenting a report and what rudy giuliani made claims of back to ukraine, biden, fact check that as well as you heard what he said earlier and the possibility of him presenting a report to congress. >> it's very strange for rudy giuliani who is -- who is in the center of this story to be going to ukraine right now. this is -- you know, a couple of his associates have been detained and arrested on their way out of the country who have been charged in this case and here's rudy giuliani heading over to, you know, the scene of the alleged crime to gather new evidence to try to bring back. this is as if you had a couple of associates who were charged with bank robbery and decided to go into the house that -- sorry, into the bank that they have alleged to have broken into and decided that you would find some evidence there. this is a very, very odd situation the giuliani has injected himself into and the president is injecting himself into and let's remember also in this case that when the president was found to or when the president wa

. >> the referenced calls between rudy giuliani and the office of management and budget. >> rudy giuliani made a number of phone calls according to this log to the white house. >> phone records show extensive communications between giuliani and others involved in the effort to pressure ukraine. trish: this is pretty bad stuff. schiff's move is a disgraceful breach of ethical and legal propriety. how do you get court ordered phone reports without a warrant. a journalists named john solomon who was reporting a whole lot of just rudy was leaking. but instead of a major break through, adam schiff is leaving many americans wondering, can anyone in congress get someone's phone records and publish them? i saw how subpoena powers only extended so far. this columnist from the hill, john solomon, accusing john solomon of having a phone conversation? i hate to break it to you, mr. schiff. but that's what the american media does. do you know how many phone calls i make every single day? do you know how many people i talk to? this is what we do. we have conversations with sources. sometimes we report

that cant be good for rudy giuliani. and later the president bids a sarcastic farewell to another former democratic presidential candidate, perhaps not expecting the response he got from her right away. "the 11th hour" just getting started. "the 11th hour" just getting started. ♪ some things are too important to do yourself. get customized security with 24/7 monitoring from xfinity home. awarded the best professionally installed system by cnet. simple. easy. awesome. call, click or visit a store today. >>> so i've decided, sharon, i'm not going to go to the ukraine. i'm not going to go because i think i'm walking to a group of people that are enemies of the president. >> the day before announcing his ukraine trip was off, giuliani told "new york times" he was headed to ukraine to push for investigations that could help trump. he said at the time quote we're not meddling in an election, we're meddling in an investigation, which can we have a right to do. giuliani is a central figure in all of this and a new report detai

we know that rudy giuliani at the white house. we saw him and since you know the grounds so well, this makes sense to you. walking from the old executive building into the west wing, accompanied by his son who also works here. we don't know and no one will tell us whether or not rudy has a meeting on the schedule with the president of the united states. we do know that president trump is meeting the paraguayan counterpart and we'll get a sense of where the president is on the next phase and i think crucially be able to tell whether or not he spoke with rudy giuliani, to what extent the president reads out of rudy coming back from ukraine and that rudy eager to share his findings. we may see whether or not rudy giuliani got to the president and if he is still the president's personal attorney. nicole? >> somebo many echos of historyh two generations of giulianis walking to the building that houses the west wing and the residence. what's amazing to me, hans, this is also a story, no matter what you think of donald j. trump, the braz

while critics say rudy giuliani is partly to blame for what happened, rudy giuliani and his client remain intent on his quest to dig up dorsey on joe biden and his son hunter. last week giuliani traveled to ukraine to meet with officials, while back at home, constitutional experts were testifying on capitol hill about the parameters for different articles of impeachment. on month giuliani appeared on a podcast and promised to revealed what he says he has found in ukraine. >> i was going to do an outline and try to present it at the convenience of the republicans in congress and the attorneys general at the end of this week. i don't know exactly when it will be made public, but it should be ready by wednesday. i worked on it all weekend. >> reporter: he was asked, what did you get? the journal reports that he replied -- more than you can imagine. >> i think he's going to make a report to the attorney general and congress. >> reporter: giuliani is a central character in the house impeachment inquiry, and a constant source of fuel for conspiracy theories seized on by right-wing media. he has

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you have these wild accusations rudy giuliani calling omd. maybe he was but those phone records, that doesn't prove it. >> god bless the two "wall street journal" reporters to waited into the grass to find out how the phone works at the white house. >> according to the articles there is a lot of phone records that they wouldn't evolve for it is not just rudy giuliani. it is other members. >> it showed up in rudy. they did not subpoena devon newness' phone records periods. >> the other is less harness in the other is the other man who was arrested with them. they have been absolutely crystal clear that they did not subpoena members of congress, their staff, or any journalist. they showed up in these other subpoenas. two of these men have been indicted on multiple federal crimes. that is not an abuse of power. >> it's also journalist commits also the president lawyers. adam schiff divulged these phone records. >> chose the potential conflict of interest and needs to be addressed. you can bet that if adam schiff's phone records had shown up in p

so rudy giuliani is not taking payment from the president. there is some reporting last week the president did not note this in his gift financial decision closures, even though it would be a sizable gift of services. you know, this is a very well paid lawyer. we still don't know who is paying like completely for his -- for all of this, do we? >> so i asked him actually about who was paying for his travel last week when he went to budapest, to viana, rome, and ukraine. what he said was that because he was working on this series with oan, but also conducting some of his own investigations, that they split the cost of his travel. so that answers some of the questions, but it's not clear, i think, where the money that he has been funding his own efforts with is coming from. >> and then fundamentally one of the issues here, rudy is talking to these characters and figures in ukraine and one of the things that that new yorker piece does a good job of laying out who these people are. but it's pretty clear he keeps going to pedal this information to

rudy giuliani is flagrant. is he trying to lock in his relationship with trump so trump can't throw him under the bus? >> if this is the eve of destruction, rudy giuliani is the unwitting agent of president trump's destruction. he just provided compelling evidence of article i that the president abused public trust with this shakedown. we know that there was no corruption reason to get rid of ambassador yovanovitch. she's an expert on public corruption. that's one reason she was sent to ukraine. we know that corruption investigation was giuliani and trump's code word for political dirt from ukraine. and how do we know giuliani wasn't doing this on his own? because every time president trump was asked about ukraine, he said talk to rudy. he said that to ambassador sondland. he said it to energy secretary perry. he even said it to president zelensky. >> so what do you make of this, shelby? because it looks like the thelma and louise of the united states is quote is the president's lawyer. >> rudy giuliani is doub

former new york city mayor rudy giuliani. you know, as journalists, you usually have to work a lot harder than this to get to the truth. but rudy giuliani, if you put a tape recorder in front of him, just literally comes out and says it. again, this is the quote in "the new yorker" published last night. "i believe i needed yovanovitch out of the way. she was going to make the investigations difficult for everybody." he's saying, first of all, that there were investigations out there, looking into joe biden and everything else, but he just spells it out and lays it out, again, so he can go on fox last night and be on tv and go to the grand havana room later and talk about it with the people he sees there. but my goodness, he just literally -- this isn't the first time he just comes out and says it. and this confirms, obviously, so much of what we heard in front of the intel committee, from ambassador yovanovitch and fiona hill and everyone else. >> what does this remind you of, willie? it reminds you of donald trump saying to

the lawyer is effectively the rudy giuliani of the white house. he's somebody who has taken this job and has what donald trump wants. in the same way that bill barr is not a traditional attorney general. he is behaving as donald trump's attorney general, not the united states attorney general. and the white house counsel who is the kind of white house counsel he wants who will engage mostly in political lawyering rather than lawyer lawyering. i don't know pat cipollone, but everything we've seen, from all the official documentation, everything he is signing his name to in the course of this ukraine vision, that is clearly how he has behaved in terms of trying to execute the stonewall and trying to stop people from testifying. he regards this as a political matter. and that is entirely consistent. if you have someone like bill barr as your attorney general, it is not surprising that donald trump now has the equivalent, the mini me version of it as white house counsel. >> frank, i guess i just imagine in the smithsonian in 20 years in the impeachmen

and according to rudy giuliani, there was nobody between rudy giuliani. he was there on behalf of the president. this seems like a very ominous sign for rudy and potentially the president. >> i think so. look, the truth emerges when the people who are trying to get to the truth have leverage. it was i think incredibly impressive how much of this scheme adam schiff was able to uncover given what they had to work with. in two months they were able to break the stonewall, get witnesses, hold public hearings. it really revealed to the american public. they didn't have a lot -- they don't have -- they can't threaten people with federal charges. what the southern district of new york can do is threaten people with charges. rudy giuliani is under investigation. the prosecutor said in court today it's likely there will be superseding indictments. those can be additional charges. it could be charges against rudy himself. and so i think when you look at the parallel tracks that these investigations have been going on, the kind of political investigation in the hous

the removal of her and the facts surrounding that are mentioned in the indictment of rudy giuliani's associates that were just indicted in the last few months. i think anyone who asks -- lawyers i've read this quote to, they're floored by it, it's an admission in some ways, and also saying this in the middle of the investigation is something the southern district of new york and the fbi is looking into. >> add it toed bucket of current investigations. >> yeah. >> let's switchgears and talk about fired fbi director james comey. he was wrong about his confidence used in the russia probe, the department of justice inspector general found the investigation was launched without political bias, but he condemned 17 major omissions specifically involving those surveillance war answer, comey said this about michael horowitz. >> he's right, i was wrong, i was overconfident in the procedures that the fbi and justice had built over 20 years, i'm responsible -- that's why i'm telling you, i was wrong, i was overconfident as director in our procedures, it's important that a leader be accountable a

coming up rudy giuliani shadow diplomacy extending beyond ukraine. new reporting indicates giuliani who is a private citizen, not a representative of the u.s. government, was trying to negotiate an exit for venezuela's president. giuliani's efforts are raising serious concerns among actual diplomats. does not believe president trump is someone young people can look up to. we'll explain in a bit. >> i don't think that president trump as a person is a role model for a lot of different youth. that's me personally. i don't like the way he tweets, the things he says, his word choices. >> all right. we've got much more to get to so stay with us. e got much more too stay with us ♪ ♪ ♪ everything your trip needs for everyone you love. expedia. can you tell me the story again? every family has their own unique story. give your family the chance to discover theirs this holiday season, with ancestry. dealing with our finances really haunted me.ttle cranky. thankfully, i got quickbooks, and a live bookkeeper's helping customize it for our business. (live b

rudy giuliani visiting the white house. his visit coming after the wall street journal reporting the president called rudy giuliani as soon as his plane landed in new york last weekend from kiev where he was pushing for ukrainian help against biden. as the plane was still taxiing down the runway, the president asked rudy giuliani, what did you get? caitlin collins is out front tonight. how is the president reacting to this historic vote today? >> reporter: when we saw the president he was defiant opinion also dismissive of these articles of impeachment saying that democrats are wasting impeachment on this. he doesn't think his actions warrant it. a case he's been making but he's been saying democrats are going to regret this saying it will come back to bite them when a democrat is in office and republicans control the house. trying to warn them of that dismissing it but saying it benefits him politically. talking about his poll numbers being up which if you look at the poll numbers you see that's not the case but what he is

rudy giuliani, on the other hand, claims to represent donald trump personally, as a private citizen. he's advancing his interests around the world and along the way, he is collecting up clients who are paying rudy giuliani legal fees who have interests adverse to the united states government. in venezuela he picked up a client who was being investigated by the justice department for money laundering. so he has conflicts of interest in representing all of those different constituencies. you can understand why people like john bolton thought he was a hand grenade getting ready to blow up everybody. he is a dangerous person to be involved in representing the united states. we should leave that to the career professionals and the president, who should be working only in the interests of the united states and not in the private interests of others. >> barbara mcquade and david drucker, my thanks to both of you. >>> up next, poll position. new reaction from the campaign trail as the dnc rejects a proposal from andrew yang trying to make the january debate more diverse. this is msnbc. this

basically, rudy giuliani's phone number is all over this report. intelligence committee chairman adam schiff addressed questions about whether democrats should investigate these leads that they have come up with beforehanding the baton to the judiciary committee. >> i think what we have produce ed in remarkable short order is so overwhelming it ought to be presented to the judiciary committee now. without further delay. if we do uncover additional evidence and learn more every day, we will feel free to file supplemental reports to the judiciary committee. he there's grave risk when we know enough about the president's misconduct to make a responsibility judgment about whether we think that's compatible with the office of the presidency. >> it should be a game-changing moment for the democrats. they're arguably losing the impeachment battle politically. they're losing an information war with republicans. president's allies have embraced a russian conspiracy theory about ukraine meddling in the 2016 election. they've embraced president trump's conspi

on that july 19th meeting between ambassador volcker and rudy giuliani ambassador volcker told rudy giuliani that the allegations about joe biden were completely bogus and wrong and mister giuliani said according to ambassador volcker at testimony mister giuliani said he knew that and for the next two months he pushed for the same investigation at the direction of donald trump who had directed president zalinsky to contact mister giuliani so that july 19th meeting is quite is important to this investigation. >> you are he explained on may 23rd when the official folks who went to the inauguration came back to tell the president how impressed they were the only thing he had to say was talk to rudy. he was taking his official government people responsible for ukraine and handing them over to rudy giuliani so they could work with him as evidence in the tweet. >> i agree that is what the evidence showed. at the may 23rd meeting donald trump directed and delegated authority over ukraine matters to ambassador sondland and secretary perry and told him to work with rudy and that is what happened at t

and so, rudy giuliani's ukraine involvement helped lead trump to -- on the path towards impeachment. so, he's only adding -- you know, adding fuel to the fire. and so it doesn't seem like rudy giuliani came up with too much, in terms of interviews, i watched some of those clips from "one america" and really it was kind of thin greuel. >> what have you learned about rudy giuliani's spokesperson? what have you learned about her? >> as profiled in politico, christiana allen is an online student with liberty university, and she has a history of making up stuff about her resume. she says -- she claims viers tit various titles that she does not have like representative of trump victory committee, a video columnist for the daily caller. i talked to representative of those entities and they have said those are not true, at worst. and at best, they're embroiled titles. i think who rudy giuliani hires as his communications director is someone who does not have credibility and who is not even legal to buy alcohol at the trump hotel where she's spotted a lot at rudy's side. >> one more mind-bogg