bret: former british prime minister tony blair talking about the situation currently in afghanistan. over the weekend you may have seen on "fox news sunday" current secretary of state tony blinken talking to chris wallace, asked about the contradictory statements of president biden, and his various press conferences. >> does the president not know what's going on? >> this is an incredibly emotional time for many of us. >> the president said al-qaeda is gone. it's not gone. the president said he has not heard any criticism from the allies. there has been a lot of criticism from the allies. words matter. and the words of the president matter most. >> chris, all i can tell you is what i have heard and, again, this is a powerfully emotional time for allies and partners as it is for me, as it is for us. bret: let's bring in our panel guy benson host of the guy benson show on fox news radio. harold ford jr. former tennessee congressman and trey gowdy former congressman from south carolina. trey, i was struck by that answer by the secretary of state that it was an emotional time for all of

with me now is jack straw, the former labour foreign secretary under tony blair, from 2001 to 2006. welcome. as foreign secretary you are the first minister from a foreign government to go into kabul after the fall of the taliban. if you are in government now what would you are in government now what would you be doing? i you are in government now what would you be doing?— you be doing? i think there are very limited options _ you be doing? i think there are very limited options for _ you be doing? i think there are very limited options for the _ you be doing? i think there are very limited options for the british i limited options for the british government right now and ben wallace, the defence secretary i think has spelt those out that it is frankly not practical for the british to try to hold the airport without support of the us. we have got 1000 troops which is the second largest contingent at the airport for the us has got 5000 troops and they have also got surveillance and other crucial support which we don't have. you could get it in but i think it is fanciful to think th

blair, standing alongside george w. bush immediately after the september 11th attacks, and ending now under boris johnson's premiership, there's been a sense that this war is coming to a fairly chaotic end. we've heard relatively unusual public criticism from british officials of how the u.s. has handled this. the british defense secretary is a former soldier. he actually got emotional during an interview last week, saying that it was pretty much inevitable that afghan allies of the uk were going to get left behind in kabul because of this timeline set by president biden. there has not been the same level, i would say, of political interest here in britain that there has been in the u.s. about the war in afghanistan. there's not much discussion about forever wars in this country in the way there is in the u.s. but the uk has suffered fewer casualties than the u.s. has. it has spent less blood, less treasure. but still it is something that is being very closely followed here in the uk, especially as british forces remain

i said to tony blair, who is going to be the replacement for the taliban? tony blair replied to my letter and he said we are not going to abandon you. but this is what has happened after 20 years. i'm not a fan of foreign troops in afghanistan but once you have gone into afghanistan you should have finished the job and brought a political settlement to the conflict in afghanistan, the longest conflict in europe and america, and have an achievement in afghanistan rather than giving the keys to the power in afghanistan to the taliban. i'm asking now for people to sue the british government, who send their kids back to afghanistan, for abandoning the people of afghanistan, because this is really shambolic and there should be an inquiry. we know what went wrong. they were only there to empower their friends, the warlords and the drug lords, the remnants of the former holy warriors, as they were called, but they should be an inquiry, and an apology for the people of afghanistan. for why you have done this to us. you people of afghanistan. for why you have done t

blair visited washington after the 9/11 attacks. in the months to come, he'd provide uk support for america's invasions of iraq and afghanistan. 20 years on, he's had this to say. many people, as a result - of what happened in afghanistan, are going to have a deep doubt - as to whether we can be relied upon. and that is not a good thing. and mr blair's fierce criticism of mr biden's withdrawal also raises a question about whether the uk can rely on the us. but when the uk foreign secretary, dominic raab, was asked today if the us refusal to extend that deadline meant the special relationship was over, he replied... and if that's the uk perspective, this is us state department spokesperson ned price last week. we certainly have an extraordinary partner in the british government. to back that up, mr price added... what i can say is that our coordination with the british government, with all of our nato allies, has been consistent, it has been clear, and there has been a consensus on this. but only if consensus is the us deciding a pol

blair. i would like to ask very quickly the first question. where would you put the security threat at the moment and there is security within afghanistan and the region? i think a security threat _ afghanistan and the region? i think a security threat in _ afghanistan and the region? i think a security threat in afghanistan - afghanistan and the region? i think a security threat in afghanistan is l a security threat in afghanistan is significantly worse now with the taliban taking control. we have all heard the reassuring noises from the very practised taliban spokesman but what really matters is what's going on out of the public eye in the regions, in the rural areas, where zealots will be moving into positions of power and influence and i worry that as soon as the is afghanistan, we will begin to hear the same sort of reports of atrocities and killings as we heard in the past. let's see and let's hope for the best.— in the past. let's see and let's hope for the best. in the past. let's

blair. jack straw, good morning. i don't know how much of that interview with jack cummings you could hear. i heard a lot of it. do you think it was worth it?— heard a lot of it. do you think it was worth it? , ., ., was worth it? yes i do, and let me sa to was worth it? yes i do, and let me say to mr — was worth it? yes i do, and let me say to mr cummings, _ was worth it? yes i do, and let me say to mr cummings, i _ was worth it? yes i do, and let me say to mr cummings, i entirely - say to mr cummings, i entirely understand how he feels and how i would feel if i had lost my legs in a situation like that. i would probably be feeling what he feels. i am not in any doubt at all that going into afghanistan was entirely the right thing to do in the circumstances. it is worth recapping, there had been at 9/11, over 3000 people killed directly as a result of the al-qaeda bombers. they could have taken out the white house and were close to doing that. this was a threat not only against america

in the 90s at the break—up of yugoslavia, tony blair's speech in 1999 and a responsibility to protect and the idea that we were going to go around the world making everybody, look after people and so on and so forth. we are coming to the end. what we are watching now is the end. what we are watching now is the and of i think 30 years of western strategic policy which is gone completely wrong. far too much wishful thinking, lacking in leadership. i think us foreign policy and the execution of it having lived through baghdad in 2003 and been involved in the balkans, this is a really important time. i am just depressed, set up, irritated, angry that we are watching western values being pushed back for the plato, g7, not being able to talk to the taliban. that is in absolutely _ able to talk to the taliban. that is in absolutely damning _ able to talk to the taliban. that is in absolutely damning verdict on i in absolutely damning verdict on notches recent events but obviously the last few decades. you mentioned the last few decades. you mentioned the g7. borisjohnson saying he wants assu

for which tony blair and george bush were responsible. so i don't think anyone has been very keen... it is how you extricate yourself from where you already are because the problems in afghanistan and the presence in afghanistan goes back a lot earlier. but in any event, my final comment, if you will allow me, is afghanistan must never be combined with iraq. the reason for going to iraq was unjustifiable. in afghanistan, it was entirely justifiable. the biggest terrorist attack the world had ever known, the 9/11 bombings, 7000 people killed. but we are back to square one. we are back to square one with the taliban in control 20 years later as they were 20 years ago. no, we are not. forgive me, first of all, we have never seen the repeat because of the invasion of afghanistan and the elimination of the taliban 20 years ago, that effectively destroyed al-qaeda as an organisation capable of launching anything on the scale of 911. and we have not seen anything remotely like that for the last 20 years. so the concern is now that the taliban ar

blair, the former prime minister who referred to the decision as imbecilic so it is across the board this condemnation. no question that as long as biden is president he will not be taken seriously or trusted by the british or anyone else. look at how the germans, the leader of the german party said this was the worst debacle for nato since its founding. however the special relationship between britain and america i am confident that will recover as soon as biden is gone. ashley: there's this effort, there has been calls for impeachment, for him to resign but as i asked many of our previous guests do you really want a kamala harris presidency? >> that is such a good point. i addressed it last sunday. the truth is she is exactly like him in the sense that she's also a machine politician who has no beliefs and principles of been -- i think she would undoubtedly be worse than biden, that is true. however at some point there has to be some accountability for a catastrophe on this scale so i think it is important that biden is impeached and that is very likely to happen if republicans tak

maria: yeah, tony -- tony blair called it an imbecile move. you're a doctor, do you think we will start talking about the 25th amendment? is he fit to lead? congressman: so that's, of course, a decision for his cabinet under the constitution, but i mean, there are going to be a lot of people who start going, wait a minute, this makes no sense. how can he possibly come to this decision? this is a bipartisan statement. i have democrat friends who are scratching their head going, we don't know what he's doing. we are confused. so that begs the question is he fit to lead and i think he should step down. i've been saying that since the debacle began. maria: congressman, great to have you this morning. thanks very much and we will continue to follow this. thank you, sir. congressman mark green. we will be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> you know me, i'm a fighter and my instinct is to fight this because it is unfair and unjust in my mind. i believe the right thing is that my service comes first. prolonging the situation can only cause governmental paraly

over the weekend prime minister tony blair said the u.s. never should've withdrawn calling the decision imbecilic and for the taliban that cannot come soon enough. >> if the extended that means there extending occupation, there is no need for that. it will create mistrust between us, and will provoke a reaction. >> the president has warned that airport itself could become the target of a terrorist attack and i think the gun battle that we saw over the last 24 hours indicates how perilous and precarious the situation remains. ainsley: thank you very much for the live report in europe. to see the younger the gun battle, it is such people trying to desperately to get to the airport, seven people crushed including the toddler that lost their lives, i could not savor the mother said, the mother said i am done i tried to go and it did not work out i'm going to die here. >> she said made 2-year-old was a trooper and anytime they would hear gunshots outside the mother would say those are firecrackers every time they would go off a child under child

that's why former prime minister tony blair said this week the decision is imbassilic. brian: it's a joke. now we're asking for nato to help us with china while when taiwan gets invaded we'll need the world united behind us? forget it. douglas it's impossible to quantify the amount of damage done to our allies let alone how our enemies are hardened. you are on tucker carlson today in an extended interview. he doesn't roll commercials so we'll get to hear you speak in great detail about this afghanistan disaster. it's available beginning today at 4:00. steve: that's when you can see eric prince of black water. thank you very much, douglas. >> thank you. brian: meanwhile let's check in with senior meteorologist janice dean. she's outside. >> the sun is coming out. it's wonderful let's take a look at the maps you know it's going to feel like summertime and we've got the humidity so it's going to be even warmer than 75 here in new york. we're going to get into the 90s feel like 100 degrees in a lot of these areas showers thunderstorms some of them turning severe across the

maybe that's why tony blair called the whole thing imbecileic. get your people out. people you made promises to you get them out. you get your assets out. the last thing you do is get your troops out. i want to know who made decisions like let's goes bagram? where was the conversation on that? was there something in the intelligence community that said that was a good idea? did that come from our military leadership or was that a lone decision by the president of the united states? does the president of the united states really believe that al-qaeda and isis are not present in afghanistan? we really would like to know. is that the information is he getting? because we hear to the contrary or is that just something that he decided was -- and, also, i want to know right now, does this administration recognize the taliban as a legitimate government? and now we have -- we have the head of the cia over there, and i read about that this morning. ainsley: would he be able to change their mind taliban warned us if we extend the deadline they said it will provoke a reaction.

the formerl leader of the labour party and prime minister tony blair has spoken strongly and said the decision to come out of afghanistan from america was imbecilic. come out of afghanistan from america was imbecilic— was imbecilic. would you go that far? the decision _ was imbecilic. would you go that far? the decision to _ was imbecilic. would you go that far? the decision to withdraw i was imbecilic. would you go that far? the decision to withdraw is l far? the decision to withdraw is from the united states and nobody can say we were not warned and we have had two successive presidents who made clear they would end involvement in afghanistan after 20 years and thousands of lives lost. while the us deserves criticism for the decision to withdraw quickly with a hard deadline, which signalled to the taliban it was simply a waiting game and if they held tight, the us would be gone and they knew when they would be gone and i suspect that is why we saw a rapid advance. there have been mistakes made in terms of afghanistan including the past 18 months when the government has not put pla