trump was furious. he was furious and he yelled at esper you are taking we might authorities. >> he would not be pushed around and the unabashedly shoved his statesman at trump was sitting at the resolute desk. this is what i said. understand, don't misinterpret it. so this is one of the many incidents where milley just said, my god, there is a mental decline here. there is a danger and he had a wonderful phrase for it, which i want to read i don't ruin it. for milley said, this is the absolute darkest moment of theoretical possibility. in other words, the moment was dark but the possibility was theoretical, but then it became real when you mix it with the trump personality and this irrational raging. so what esper and milley realized -- on this, that they had actually checkmated -- i mean, we worked together for years. there's a point where you -- you keep the boss from doing what we be damage to the institution or even the boss, and they believe they checkmated trump on bringing the combat troops to w

senator from arkansas was trump before trump. he is an immigration hawk, opposed to unfettered free trade. what he lacks in panache he makes up for indiscipline and strategic planning, but those were not big strong suits for donald trump and did not seem to matter and getting him elected. -- seem to matter in getting him elected. guest: that is a good passage you pulled. presidential candidates can only use what they have. all of them have challenges. all of them have a potential fatal flaw. it's all about timing and who your competition is. i think that donald trump in 2016 against a competent and charismatic democratic nominee, somebody who would not destroy their resume with a problem the way hillary clinton's confidence and strength was shattered by having that secret server in her basement when she was secretary of state, donald trump would have ended up losing that election. for all of his strengths, and he has many political strengths in -- he did not minister win the national popular vote either time and even though that

about trump and the final days of the trump administration. it also has chapters about about joe biden and the incoming biden administration. when you read you switch from one to the other it's almost like you're talking about two different countries. everything is crazy and one country and work the way you kind of think government and washington orcs no matter which party is in charge is that a fair characterization of the contrast not just to fascinating individuals into countries as well. >> i would not phrase it particularly that way their intertwined stories we begin the book with the millie moment january 8. you understand the days after the insurrection. we also wanted to answer the question in our reporting, how did we get there and where's this nation going? we go back to charlottesville back to biden's decision to run here and twice before 88, 2008, never found his footing at any of this races in any meaningful way. he had this ambition he decided t to run spurned by the belief what is happening in the country, white supremacy march

trump won missouri by nearly 20 points in 2016. two years later he's running to try to hold on to her seat as a democratic senator there. something came up right at the end of that campaign. reports surfaced that perhaps josh hawley had gotten some extra help in his campaign that might not have been okay.inoryeu a complaint was filed with the federal election commission jusc a couple of weeks before election day that accused the nra of having dumped a whole bunch of illegal money on josh l hawley during the campaign, supporting his campaign with illegal campaign spending through an elaborate scheme mp designed to evade campaign finance law. e now, this complaint about the nra allegedly illegally funding josh hawley in that senate race, it was filed by a non-partisan watchdog called the campaign legal center, but also by the gunso violence prevention group run by former congresswoman gabby giffords. she was shot in the head, nearly killed at a mass shooting at a i campaign event in her arizona district in 2011. she went on to fund a

trump was furious. he wasur furious and yelled at esper, you're taking away my authority. >> he would not be pushed around and he shoved his statement trump sitting at the resolute desk, this is what i said, understand, don't misinterpret it. this was ones of the many instruments were milley said my god, there's a mental decline here. there is a danger there was a wonderful phrase for which i will read. for milley, this is the darkest moment of theoretical possibility. in other words, the moment was dark but the testimony was theoretical but then it became real when you mix it with the trump personality and rash irrational raging. what esper and milley realized on this, they checkmated -- we worked together for years. i think there's a place where you keep the boss from doing what will be damaged to the institution or even the boss. ... >> what was goingas on there, there was a lot of, there was no trust so you have the moment after moment, i do want dwell on this too much but in miller's office and he

fight for trump! fight for trump! >>> as court losses piled up and inauguration day crept closer, trump hoped that u.s. attorney general bill barr with the might of the department of justice behind him would back him and add credence to his fraudulent crimes. >> where is the doj and fib in all of this, mr. president? >> is the doj investigating? >> missing in action. can't tell you where they are. >> bill barr was investigating. >> bill barr issued a memo that told prosecutors around the country that they could take overt steps to look into allegations of fraud. this is something the department traditionally didn't do until votes for certified. it was absolutely seen as putting pressure on prosecutors around the country to at least say publically, or have signs that they were investigating voter fraud. bill barr was looking for it and the truth was it was not there and he eventually came to realize that. >> in an interview with the associated press, barr publicly contradicted trump's baseless certific

of 2016. >> a big win for president trump in florida. >> trump was in a decent mood until fox called arizona for biden. >> the fox news decision desk is calling arizona for joe biden. that is a big get for the biden campaign. >> he believed what he was being told by some advisers after he won florida which was this is looking good for us, this is looking just like 2016. these states that were supposed to go for biden are going for you. and then we got to the arizona call, and it all fell apart. >> it's a significant victory for joe biden, as i say the first flip of the night in the presidential race. >> the fox news decision desk made that call hours before the "associated press" and days before the major news networks. >> people were sending me what people were saying on social media, and it was this sort of, you know, psychotic murderous rage about us, and we don't do anything. we're just the weathermen. i'm just telling you where the storm is going. i don't make the weather. >> he started calling talent at fox and urging them to retract it. >> right, as though it was the call that

heist has been all in on trump's election lie and endorsed by donald trump. in arizona, a state representative named mark finchim wants the job. >> arizona state representative mark is with us tonight and what a job he's done. mark. >> he's already received the endorsement of donald trump. he has said over and over again that this was a fraudulent election. he's called for decertification. he's got a descent chance to win this primary. if we have people like that in these key positions moving forward, i think we are in danger. >> eight of the ten house republicans who voted for impeachment are facing primary challenges from republicans endorsed by trump or energized by him including lids cheney. >> donald trump is very vocally supporting your defeat. are you worried? >> no. i intend to win. >> you could lose. you're saying you won't but anything is possible. if you lose your career because of this position you're taking, will it have been worth it? >> well, i will no matter what happens never stop fighting for the constitution, never stop fighting for the rul

i’m you coming from the donald trump movement?— you coming from the donald trump movement? i'm sure it did because i was _ trump movement? i'm sure it did because i was very _ trump movement? i'm sure it did because i was very hard _ trump movement? i'm sure it did because i was very hard to pin - because i was very hard to pin down. i don't have any real affiliations or member of a party. i got this accent which people to say it's british or something else. i've worked on russia, the soviet union for years, people thinking i could be a double, triple or quadruple agent and the amount of stuff that was added by me on the internet picture head spin. and people are trying to undermine your credibility and they're trying to put you over in boxes and try to get you on board and all these conspiracies in the whole point is just to conspiracies in the whole point isjust to get conspiracies in the whole point is just to get you out of the way. i understood that right away and having been studying russian the soviet union and conspiracy theories and propaganda that's come out there

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trump is," the post notes, "trump is a wealthy businessman with dozens of properties, and he has also built an independent political operation which at last count had more than $100 million cash on hand."op "trump did not respond to questions today about why the rnc is therefore paying his legal bills."ti i know. i know. because he told them to and they do whatever he says. amazing though. we're going to have more on that coming up with david fahrenthold in just a few minutes. >>> but, you know, it's been a day. today rabid trump supporters bi were back at dealey plaza in dallas, texas once again waiting once again for the resurrectiont of former president john f. kennedy and his son john f. kennedy jr. this is multiple times now in the last several weeks they have showed up en masse at dealey plaza in dallas.mu this is an offshoot of the qanon conspiracy theory, this sort of mass delusion among trump supporters. for weeks now they've been staking out this location in texas as part of a weird mass fantasy about resurrecting dead people, including dead politicians and their families an

he of trump he candidates. there influenced by youngkin victory. he is out of the youngkin mold. >> i think it was locked that he didn't have a temper tantrum and insert himself. he tried. they kept saying he was going to have this town hall, invitation only. if a tree falls, did it really happen? >> that's a very interesting point about trump. a number of people have used, isn't odd he hasn't come out and slammed youngkin, particularly when youngkin was denying him publicly. youngkin played the judas role perfectly. he just rolled the sap suckers up into one character. trump was ok with that. i think i know why. for trump, he can suffer those outrageous assault on his person , it begot the wind -- begot the win, in a race like that, and state like virginia, it sets him up perfectly going in. if all the others fall in line, he gets the bragging rights, we sought within hours, taking credit and saying my voters got youngkin across the line. trump was playing a long game, looking into next year, using this virgin

he's been an ally of trump and having an ally will be helpful to trump if he runs again. they don't want to give up the leverage to say, yes, we'll vote for you as speaker. they want to be able to prod him to behave how they want, and it's going to be a delicate balancing act when he was under fire for not defending these republicans who voted for the infrastructure bill. he turned around and defended gosar. >> trump is volatile. there's the understatement of the year, trump is volatile and unpredictable. this is from mike rogers, another republican quoted in your piece. if trump came out against him, it would be ugly. one of the things we watch, we know trump is unhappy because kevin mccarthy has not cracked down. 1300 voters voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill but trump said if i'm not present, you're not supposed to do anything. to your point, does mccarthy do something that trump blows up about? >> we'll have to see in the months ahead, but you know who will be running the show on capitol hill for the next couple months? the right wing of the republican party

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heist has been all in on trump's election lie and endorsed by donald trump. in arizona, a state representative named mark finchim wants the job. that seat is being vacated by a democrat. >> arizona state representative mark is with us tonight and what a job he's done. mark. >> he's already received the endorsement of donald trump. he has said over and over again that this was a fraudulent election. he's called for decertification. he's got a descent chance to win this primary. if we have people like that in these key positions moving forward, i think we are in danger. >> eight of the ten house republicans who voted for impeachment are facing primary challenges from republicans endorsed by trump or energized by him including lids cheney. >> donald trump is very vocally supporting your defeat. are you worried? >> no. i intend to win. >> you could lose. you're saying you won't but anything is possible. if you lose your career because of this position you're taking, will it have been worth it? >> well, i will no matter what happens never stop fighting for the con

some of the best books about trump were not really about trump at all. they were about the larger history and the larger questions that his presidency raised. so in that sense, i say keep them coming. >> the book is "what were we thinking." a now out in paperback, "the washington post" carlos lozada. thank you for coming back on the show. >>> up next, a new look at why the american health care system is failing women, specifically women of color. how one author nearly became a maternal mortality statistic herself. we'll be right back. herself. we'll be right back. firefighter maggie gronewald knows how to handle dry weather... ...and dry, cracked skin. new gold bond advanced healing ointment. restore healthy skin, with no sticky feeling. gold bond. champion your skin. ♪ ♪ with noamazing...eling. jerry, you've got to see this. seen it. trust me, after 15 walks ...it gets a little old. [thud] [clunk] [ding] ugh... carl is saving big, holiday shopping at amazon. so now, he's free to become... choirmaster carl. bogeys on your six, limu. they need customi

former president trump's long-time adviser roger stone, who he's already had to pardon once after trump was -- excuse me, after stone was convicted of multiple felonies in the russia investigation. roger stone has now been subpoenaed by the january 6th investigation as has the infowars guy alex jones. another sort of marquee name trump supporter. mr. jones was most recently in the news just last week for having a default judgment declared against him in a case brought by the parents of little kids who were murdered at sandy hook in newtown, connecticut in 2012. alex jones made his money for a long while selling this fantasy to his followers that the sandy hook massacre was faked and the kids didn't really die. the lawsuits against him by the parents of those kids may very well bankrupt him and shut down his media and supplement-hawking company. a jury will decide what to do with him in that case in terms of financial penalties. but he and roger stone and three other people are all now subpoenaed as of tonight to testify and hand over documents about their role in the january 6th attack

happy to receive other people than trump. they want trump. this is all a myth that those republicans really want trump far away. a few of them do. youngkin, running for governor, not a federal office in virginia, a blue state that biden won by ten points. the ohio senate candidates, georgia senate candidates don't want trump far away. the mcconnell endorsement of herschel walker and thune, the whole leadership of the senate endorsed him after trump had tapped him shows that they are -- they know their fate is tied to trump for now. deep down, late at night, maybe they hope he'll miraculously disappear but they'll do nothing to make him disappear. even chris christie. he's not standing up to trump. he's sort of hoping people won't talk too much about trump. >> that's why it's so hard for all the republicans who said, after glenn youngkin won, this is our path. well, it's not going to be very easy for that to be their path if they are embracing trump and vice versa. look, it was easy for trump to stay out of the virginia governors race because

oh, trump's at arm's length, there's trump. and the second big lie is his -- i watched his rally last saturday. his campaign promise, and he was makinging this promise in loudoun and in alexandria, is on day one, i'm going to ban critical race theory. that is like us banning the ghosts. there are no ghosts. so we can say, you know what, 7:00 p.m., we're banning the ghosts. there are no ghosts. there isn't critical race theory, but he's laundered trump's really sort of disgusting, flagrant outracism, he's wrapped it in education and given it a lie as a label and he said he's going to ban it. there is no critical race theory. it's a legal theory not taught in virginia public school. >> it's so powerful. because it takes the exhausted voter who wants to vote on what is fundamentally a racist idea, right? that you cannot teach the truth about thomas jefferson. if you even talk about enslavement, that's critical race theory. anything that makes a white parent uncomfortable is critical race theory. and he's been very subtle and very

look there are people loyal to trump or trump's remaining power. but if they had been abusive, terrible horrible bosses to people is there likely there will be people who want to turn on bannon and put the screws on him? is that something that the d.o.j. has access to? >> i have been on a lot of tv with both of you guys, i don't think i have ever disagreed with you. but i have got to disagree with both of you. jason, the idea that bannon is like the emperor in sfwarz or like dollar bill in billions -- those people are competent in what they do. they know -- they actually get evil done. bannon is a joke. he's kind of like trump. he has the anti-midas touch, everything he touches turns into -- you know what the word is. so, absolutely, jason, i think, like, the most important point here is that if you are trump or if you are frankly anyone else in january 6th, you have got to worry that bannon could turn against you. this is not a guy known for his loyalty. so it's always about what's in it for himself. there is no, like, underlying principle as curt

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trump, trump, donald trump, trump, trump. loyally to trump. is there a problem with trump being here? >> so that happened. ben, that's a fatal attraction like obsession biden has for trump. >> i have to tell you, this was the smartest move that joe biden could have made at the time. what else are you going to run on seriously? you can't run on energy independence, on yelling at parents calling them domestic terrorists all the time. you can't run on critical race theory. the only thing left for them the three options, donald trump sucks, you are a racist, or you are a domestic terrorist. therefore you should vote for us. there is nothing economically, not a single social issue they can run off of. when trump -- when joe biden went up there i got donald trump. i worked a year ago and i'll try it again. if that doesn't work anyone who doesn't agree with is racist or domestic terrorist. it didn't work well. >> president biden yesterday mentioned trump twice yesterday. he said trump's policies had a negative impact on the american people. historica

trump won missouri by nearly 20 points in 2016. two years later he's running to try to hold on to her seat as a democratic senator there. something came up right at the end of that campaign. reports surfaced that perhaps josh hawley had gotten some extra help in his campaign that might not have been okay. a complaint was filed with the federal election commission just a couple of weeks before election day that accused the nra of having dumped a whole bunch of illegal money on josh hawley during the campaign, supporting his campaign with illegal campaign spending through an elaborate scheme designed to evade campaign finance law. now, in complaint about the nra allegedly illegally funding josh hawley in that senate race, it was filed by a nonpartisan watchdog called the campaign legal center but also by the gun violence prevention group run by former congresswoman gabby giffords. she was shot in the head, nearly killed at a mass shooting at a campaign event in her arizona district in 2011. she went on to fund a gun violence preventi

trump 71%. trump 71%. trump 73%. however, they're not as populated so glenn youngkin cannot lose the trump base. he must have the trump base. even if he gets it all, it's not enough to win. he has had to do something republicans have had a huge problem with in the trump years, which is deal with trump's toxicity in the suburbs. the population shifts in virginia have been largely up here. if you go back to 2004, i'll just show you this is the george bush win. notice the red in the outer suburbs around washington, d.c. loudoun county, manassas, prince william county. george w. bush could do it down there. he did it down around richmond as well. but in the donald trump ages, republicans are toxic in the suburbs. glenn youngkin has got to run it up down here. somehow that's why he's been talking about schools and parents' choice. >> in terms of timing, when can we expect to start seeing returns from early votes? mail-in ballots could be a big factor. >> i would expect a very long night. i say that because number one, you

trump's agenda. among other concerns, refusing to use the military to, quote, protests last summer. imagine that, they wrote that one, and donald trump listen. and six days after the memo he fired him. and it is worth noting, similarities between mac and cheese behavior that was encouraged in applauded by donald trump and the kind of ideological enforcers that you see crop up in authoritarian governments in the past. the purging of this allies which is infamous sufficiently loyal leaders in the movement. like many authoritarian,'s mega tea was not concerned with democracy. remember, there is a reason why the january six committee wants to talk to him. on january, first johnny mcentee texted mike pence a memo including the memory of thomas jefferson to incorrectly suggests that pence had the authority to overturn a state elector. remember, this was the grand plan, right? it was part of the eastman memo, to throughout the results of the election and essentially effectively appoint trump the winner. par

terry mcauliffe ran on "i am against trump." "glenn youngkin is for trump, trump is bad." i think trump is bad, too, but he is not on the ballot. he is not current president. you have to announce something that people actually want to vote for. the second thing is, republicans have three news networks. they are constantly running antidemocratic messaging, constantly. if you look at the results from virginia, people who are pre-basing those news programs are coming out democrats -- coming out against democrats in droves. there is a reason democratic messaging is not getting through. it is because we do not have three news networks always running against republicans like the republicans do. i do not think democrats need to spend more money on messaging. i think they need to start buying news networks. host: matt, all right. steve israel? guest: you raise two excellent points. democrats, particularly into this made election -- midterm election, need to craft a message centered on you are not trump. the american people made a decision in 2020, despite the myth and the big ligh

and after trump left office. they left special counsel john durham in place at the justice department, in the wake of the trump administration. during an open-ended investigation, into everybody who took part in the russia investigation. the trump administration and bill barr in particular, viewed the investigation as an insult by scandal, they had jim john durham to investigate and try to find crimes among people who were involved in the investigation, and that's where he has been doing ever since. special counsel john durham brought an indictment a few weeks ago -- about the trump organization having some sort of apparent surreptitious contact, with a kremlin connected bank during the 2016 election. it was kind of an obscure allegation, it never really caught that much public attention, it was court of a complex idea. never really took off in the public, mind for example it was never furthered in the mueller investigation, mueller didn't mention it at all. center intelligence committee did look into, it they ju

senator from arkansas was trump before trump. he is an immigration hawk, opposed to unfettered free trade. what he lacks in panache he makes up for indiscipline and strategic planning, but those were not big strong suits for donald trump and did not seem to matter and getting him elected. -- seem to matter in getting him elected. guest: that is a good passage you pulled. presidential candidates can only use what they have. all of them have challenges. all of them have a potential fatal flaw. it's all about timing and who your competition is. i think that donald trump in 2016 against a competent and charismatic democratic nominee, somebody who would not destroy their resume with a problem the way hillary clinton's confidence and strength was shattered by having that secret server in her basement when she was secretary of state, donald trump would have ended up losing that election. for all of his strengths, and he has many political strengths in -- he did not minister win the national popular vote either time and even though that

this is david schoen representing donald trump in trump's second impeachment trial. trump was inevitably acquitted by the republican senate thank you mitch mcconnell but a majority of senators including seven republicans did vote to convict him. trump's defenders got him the most bipartisan senate vote to convict a president in american history. david schoen also represented trump ally roger stone when stone was charged with seven felony counts of lying to congress, obstruction, witness tampering in the russia investigation. roger stone was convicted on all seven of the felony counts. that didn't work out great even if he did later get a trump pardon. david schoen was also taking on the case of convicted child sex trafficker jeffrey epstein until epstein killed himself in prison. so steve bannon's new lawyer has quite the track record. that is one thing to know as this case goes forward. the other thing to watch, though, is how aggressive it appears steve bannon is planning to be on this matter. he told reporters today that he's going on offense against the january 6

former president trump's longtime advisor, roger stone, police already had to pardon once after trump was convicted with -- roger stone has been subpoenaed by the january six investigation as he has been as well alex jones. a more marketing trump supporter, mr. john was most instantly in the news for having a default judgment declared against him in the case brought by the parents. of little kids who were murdered in sandy hook, you count, connecticut. alex jones made his money for a long while selling this fantasy to his followers that the sandy hook massacre was faked, and the kids didn't really die. the lawsuits against him by the parents of those kids may very well have bankrupted and shut down his media and supplement hawked company. a jury will decide what to do with him in that case in terms of financial penalties. but he and roger stone and three other people are all now subpoenaed as of tonight to testify to hand over documents about the role in the january six attack on the capital. we will see if president -- former president trump tells them not to respond to those subpoen

warn trump about the possible danger. you were reportedly concerned about plans by the stop the steal movement to organ unpermitted march that would reach the steps of the capitol as congress gathered to certify the election results. in a statement the couple said they are committed to transparency. finally the committee wants to hear from trump associate taylor butterwitch. according to his subpoena he offered an organization $200,000 from an undisclosed source to plan social media and radio advertisements for the stop the steal rally at the ellipse on january 6. roger stone and alex jones are notorious trolls and notorious figures. the extent of their cooperation in this investigation truly remains to be seen, especially since steve bannon, who is a similar kind of guy, has been criminally indicted for contempt of congress for refusing to appear before the committee and turn over documents. now the committee is warning they're going to try to do the same to former chief of staff mark meadows who has so far defied the co

talking about being a traitor to donald trump's and donald trump's wishes and donald trump's cause so, you know, you can't imagine this happening under a bush administration. you can easily imagine this happening with trump as the leader of the party, his personality. his viciousness and his crazy n.e.t. has entirely infected this party and we saw that visited on all of us on january 6th and this is part of the phone call and god hips all in terms of what could happen next. >> republicans did not deal with this during the trump campaign starting in 2015 when he started to say things like i'd punch him or drag him out of here, when people stood up at his rallies, they have not dealt it during the trump presidency or not dealt with it since the attack on the capitol on insurrection day and they don't do it within their own family. we'll show you a screen shot. this is paul ghostary, republican congressman of arizona who thinks it's funny. you see the face of alexandria ocasio-cortez and see the face of paul gosar. this is a doctored animated video in which if we hit play and we won't do

i don't think it would have changed donald trump much at all. just listen to how unbothered he is by what did happen as he told jonathan karl in an interview he did for his upcoming book the trail. >> were you worried about mike pence, his safety? >> no, i heard that he was in good shape. no. because i had heard he wasn't very good shape. >> but -- you heard those chants, they were terrible. >> he could have -- well, the people were very angry. >> they were saying hang mike pence. >> it's common sense, john. it's common sense that you are supposed to protect. if you know a vote is fraudulent, right, how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to congress? >> i mean, people, it's common sense. that people are very angry. yes, they said they wanted to murder the vice president. you know, he had a point. karl also reports in his new book that he liked what he saw unfolding on january 6th, even boasted about the size of the crowd. and for trump, he is a desperately insecure and small man, for him this was a source of power. the menace of the gallows -- th

you knew trump had very powerful friends, you knew trump had very powerfulfriends, had a you knew trump had very powerful friends, had a very powerful friends, had a very powerful movement. did you think very hard before choosing to go so public? itunieiiii think very hard before choosing to go so public?— to go so public? well look, because — to go so public? well look, because i _ to go so public? well look, because i had _ to go so public? well look, because i had gone - to go so public? well look, because i had gone into . to go so public? well look, | because i had gone into the administration in the first instance, and that was a tough decision as well, i did have to think about that, i had a lot of people they don't do it, some people said they wouldn't speak to me again if i did and they haven't, and so irrespective of what i was preparing to do in terms of thinking about national security, there was a lot of people really worried about trump himself and the kind of damage that he was likely to do to the united states which we have actually seen. having already made that dec

terry mcauliffe ran against donald trump. glenn youngkin ran away from donald trump. he ran harder. he ran harder in the suburbs. he ran harder in the rural colonies. -- counties. he ran harder in areas where donald trump didn't do so well. it was a classic ground game that i think allowed him to overcome terry's lack of message, and the fact that he had a significant head wind. there's this notion that democrats needed a wakeup call. we have had that wakeup call. we just don't know what time it is, and i think the time is we need to be more unified when we go before the american people and tell them what we're doing and not about the sausage making. >> and i was struck. if you drove through northern virginia before election day, where you never saw a trump sign in 2020, there were youngkin signs everywhere. so this was different. >> campaign operatives hate the yard sign polling, but, you know, the last couple of -- >> it worked, didn't it? >> they have been fairly accurate. 2016, people kept talking about the yard signs. look. i think that you can over and under-read what happened

trump in a coup. you got your bannon, your flynn, your carrick. it's a crew. carrick is an ally of trump and rudy guiliani his former boss whoa worked with to, quote, investigate allegations of voter fraud and promote stop the steal efforts. the committee notes reporting carrick paid for rooms and suites in washington, d.c. hotels and served as election related command centers. nice that he paid i guess. he participated in the january 5th meeting at the hotel with the also pardoned steve bannon, john eastman, others. this is where we are tonight with outstanding subpoenas for bill steppian, miller, mccallum. i hope she has a lawyer. definitely should get one if you're watching. john eastman, bernard carrick, steve bannon who has made no move to comply despite the contempt vote against him. we wait to see what the newly subpoenaed trump allies, the january 6th committee, and the department of justice will do next. congresswoman zoe loft democrat from california is a member of the january 6th committee

trump-labeled property. >>> that is tonight's "last word." "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts now. ♪♪ >>> and good evening once again. day 300 of the biden administration. one-time trump campaign manager, white house strategist and maga megaphone steve bannon surrendered to the fbi today, days after being in contempt of criminal charges for defying a subpoena from the january 6 committee. he livestreamed his arrival. >> i want you guys to folk on us the message. this is all noise, that's signal. >> this is bannon's first court appearance. in this case he did not enter a plea for the two misdemeanor counts of attempt by congress. that's expected thursday when he will appear before another federal judge. bannon was released without bail but had to surrender his passport and must check in weekly with court officials. after today's hearing, he and his lawyer david showen, who represented trump, you'll recall, in the second impeachment trial, went on the attack. >> this is going to be the misdemeanor from hell for merrick garland, nanc

trump white house records. u.s. judge tanya chuck is denying trump's request to block access to those documents. judge decided an earlier court ruling on subpoenas writing that the president is not king and added, the plaintiff's not president. national archives, as you know, is set to turn over the first batch of trump's records to this house select committee investigating the insurrection, riding at the capitol. they are expected to do that by this friday. they are almost by definition, all things that trump doesn't want the committee to see. trump has filed an appeal tonight to the d.c. circuit court, that didn't take long. this case is likely to end up at the supreme court. today, the house committee issued even more subpoenas to trump allies. this latest round of requests for documents and testimonies comes just a day after they targeted six other trump allies. today subpoenas went up to ten former trump administration officials including some of the most prominent members of his inner circle. former press secr

trump was convinced that was his real problem. he was desperate to get out of the white house and in front of his a.org supporters. he chose tulsa, oklahoma, which had and friendly republican governor and and mayor, and place where given covid, holding and rally might be dangerous, but unlike in most other states, it wouldn't have been against the law. the event was and failure with poor turnout that was mocked on social media. it also became -- this was foreshadowing for what would lie ahead -- and superspreader coronavirus event with many tests positive for covid. herman cain tested positive days after attending the rally and later died of covid-19. >>> joining us now to talk about some of the lessons learned from the week that was today with and particular focus on the republican party, former aide to the george w. bush white house and state departments elise jordan. she's an msnbc political analyst and "new york times" reporter jeremy peters. good morning to you both, we really appreciate you being here. elise, let's start wit

trump attacks pence. i think his evacuation by secret service from the office where he was waiting to certify the vote takes place around that time. the early afternoon, eastman email's pence's counsel. and this email you are talking about at 9:00 p.m., the eastman email to pence's counsel, urging that pence not certify the results then. what's amazing is by 9:00 p.m. it was clear how much danger the whole pence family was in. has eastman said anything sense seeing with his own eyes how harrowing the pence family escape was given where they were in the capitol, phil? >> i don't believe eastman has commented on the pence's jeopardy or sort of the emotions, the daengers of that day. if he has, i just haven't seen it. but it's worth pointing out that eastman has confirmed to our colleagues in the process of investigating this piece the details of those emails that you just mentioned. the early afternoon one, and then the 9:00 p.m. one. so he's owned up to that. but i have not heard any sort of conciliatory c

but he was not part of the trump/later -- he wasn't at the meeting at trump tower, he had nothing, you would think, to be afraid of. jeff sessions, the former senator who became trump's first attorney general, who lied to congress. he wasn't compromised in any way. so why did they lie? and it's the -- >> i don't get it. to this day, i still don't understand. >> it's like an episode of "columbo." they know there's something bad in this closet. we don't know what it is. trump knows, maybe. we don't know. what we know is when columbo says, what's in the closet? you say, what closet? i have no idea. it's hazardous to lie to the fbi, it's hazardous to lie to the senate, yet trump people did it. why? what were they afraid of? they weren't implicated, they weren't protecting themselves, they were protecting trump. >> over and over and over again. i do want to talk to you about house minority leader kevin mccarthy. he's reacted to these horrific and islamophobic comments made by congressman loren gobert. mccarthy, we understand here at cnn, said he spoke to boebert on friday and encouraged her

they have subpoenaed the trump 2020 campaign manager bill stepien, trump campaign communications chief, jason miller, the disgraced former new york city police commissioner, exconvict bernie caric, john eastman who devised the strategy that was the reason trump summoned his supporters to washington on january 6th. he's the one that basically wrote the strategy that said vice president mike pence magically had the power to overturn the election on january 6th. also a trump campaign staffer named angela mccallum, she was according to the committee subpoenaed because she apparently called state lawmakers in at least one state and told them on behalf of the trump campaign that they should appoint trump electors, even though trump had lost in that state, lost in michigan. all six of these trump world officials have been subpoenaed today, and along with the subpoenas, they got letters providing supporting documentation about what their alleged roles were laying the groundwork for the january 6th attack. these six people are being asked to hand over documents and records within the next coupl

now it's about trump, people say i'm a trumper, i vote for donald trump. the republican party comes second to that, that means one man can derp the vision and the mission that doesn't necessarily coincide with conservativism, whatever that may be in this day and alien. so you have a relationship with donald trump, right, you guys talk. you haven't talked in a while from what i understand, but you talk. >> sure. >> trevor: do you see a world where, a, he doesn't run for president and then, b, a world where you can convince him to not make the next election about this? because you know he's going to do that. >> well, look, i think a few things. first off, there's a really new interesting poll today out of iowa. iowa republicans being polled by the des moines register, and they're amongst the most conservative republicans in america. they ask where's your loyalty the most to republican party or to donald trump. 62% said the republican party. 26% said donald trump, in iowa. so i think things are changing, trevor. i think as he's no longer on the twitter -- he'

but the elevation of these groups was donald trump and donald trump and donald trump. and now the endurance of donald trump's desire to have the white supremacist groups that christopher wray bravely tried to warn people about, march before the election. testified to it again before the election about these groups and again this year since joe biden has been in office. my question is so the committee has now focused in on the state actors. the government people they're interested in. they have focused on the campaign folks they think were involved or might have information. they are focused on the money. they take the subpoena to the folks who move money to the 501 c 4. they focused on the social media advice. on women for trump. on the white supremacists. are the lawmakers next, luke? >> you know, that's a good question because there's a lot of reluctance among members of congress to hold each other accountable. and you know, the members in this committee has said openly that they will stop at nothing. they will subpoena donald trump. they will subpoena members of con

as more trump folks get subpoenas. we had six yesterday, ten today, upon all receiving the subpoenas, they all decide whether or not they're going to comply with them. that justice department decision about whether or not steve bannon will be prosecuted for contempt for defying that subpoena. that justice department decision may well be determinative whether or not the justice department has the power to prosecute anything. the justice department, with individual people who went into the capitol, individual rioters, individual people who looted and hurt cops, hurt people on january 6th. arrested hundreds of people, isn't this case, working their way through the courts. the justice department has done nothing in terms of the organizers of the january 6th event. the people who invited people to come to washington, because they promoted this theory that mike pence could be pressured, physically stopped from counting the electoral votes and that would undo the election result, the justice department appears to be letting t