i think nato's presently costs are all. this is a positive thing. i think it makes everyone feel much safer both to be at the carven in community. the ethics serve community and all other communities live in calls. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there today. thanks so much to all of our guests on a hi dory. alexander, bizarre and milan and tony image. and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha, inside story. can also join the conversation on twitter or handle it at ha, inside toy from him, how much i'm home, and the whole team here, bye for now. the ah and when close at 19 1st hit, the need to minimize contact drove many of the world's judicial systems online. now in the name of cost and efficiency, some of them want to stay there. but what if holding trials in cyberspace denies defendants the right to a fair hearing, and remove safeguard

that's right. russia has actually putin has succeeded in uniting and strengthening nato's it. nato and ways that american presidents had only dreamed of . i mean, trump failed biden failed. obama failed. they couldn't get the germans to spend 2 per cent on defense. they couldn't get the french and swedes to set the fins and swedes to say they wanted to join. they couldn't do permanent deployments forward deployments, and they couldn't get the europeans to recognize that their piece dividend did not mean that they could ignore national security. putin has accomplished all of those things and more for nato. so absolutely. putin has putin has succeeded in strengthening nato. i don't think that was his intention, but he has succeeded. speaking of us presidents under a president, donald trump, he initially withheld $400000000.00 in, in the military 8 package to ukraine over to quit broke all to do with hunter vibe and joe biden, son. and this was in the middle of a conflict that was raging in ukraine's east. did an action like this enabled fulton and his ambitions in ukraine. now, not reall

and our nato partners, just as we are ramping up our defense spending and our capabilities, our nato partners are doing the same. so we are all interdependent upon one another, but we are investing, you know, pound for pound, the equivalent or more than most of our... but there's a bind here, isn't there? because the more you invite nato�*s forces to expand their presence here — and i believe that of all three baltic states, you now will have the largest deployment of nato forces on your territory — the more you do that, the more the russians talk of provocation. 2ajune, sergei lavrov, foreign minister, said, "the eu and nato�*s are gathering a coalition for war "with the russian federation. "we are going to look at this very carefully." does that russian language give you pause? look, russia is waging a war in ukraine. nato is not waging a war against anyone. the way to provoke russia — and this history shows that we've been arguing this for many, many years — weakness provokes russia. russia made a miscalculation that ukraine was easy, that ukraine was weak, and that pr

and our nato partners, just as we are ramping up our defence spending and our capabilities, our nato partners are doing the same. so we are all interdependent upon one another, but we are investing, you know, pound for pound, the equivalent or more than most of our... but there's a bind here, isn't there? because the more you invite nato�*s forces to expand their presence here — and i believe that of all three baltic states, you now will have the largest deployment of nato forces on your territory — the more you do that, the more the russians talk of provocation. 2ajune, sergei lavrov, foreign minister, said, "the eu and nato are gathering a coalition for war "with the russian federation. "we are going to look at this very carefully." does that russian language give you pause? look, russia is waging a war in ukraine. nato is not waging a war against anyone. the way to provoke russia — and this history shows that we've been arguing this for many, many years — weakness provokes russia. russia made a miscalculation that ukraine was easy, the ukraine was weak, and that provoked

say, i want to ask you just how entwined nato and the you are in the local peacekeeping efforts. nato is absolutely the final arbiter in any conflict or escalation to corrupt between coastal and serbia. when the nita bombing of the ramp state of yugoslavia happened, or serbia montenegro and, and always because were to happen in 99, an agreement was signed. that was unprecedented to continue to be impressed in nato history. which basically means that anytime serbia would want to encroach the territory of coastal militarily or otherwise, it would immediately provoke reaction from something that is that public might be more familiar with in terms of the article high protections and they don't exist when it comes to kosovo. even though course with a needle member, this is why people on the ground have to some extent downplayed the possibility of an out all were happening. but of me that their capital incidence and salvage tensions, or even loss of life. but a full out conflict in similar to anything that's happening in ukraine is almost entirely precisely because nato's forces on the grou

it was a nato operation. it was a legal nato operation. they killed over 2000 innocent civilians and frankly, innocent soldiers who hadn't declared war any body ah, [000:00:00;00] a ah, ah. and when the choice by now another quite natural, the mobile blog post estimate sure i keep a twinge, quick document on the bus and then potentially for me. but i'm going to push will give you my direct line to get that up. this lab radius love. it will much blew out all the different benefits you want to get 1st and i left with gamma wolf, which doesn't feel like we are much more than enough notice on punch group or use your for holding a picture. where are you using this to hold? you go to the grill guard showing as guards the property or what is covered or is it, i've got the new park with more can i do this? kimberly put us. 5 goes oh so this is latoya e. yeah. put us on a do cross gaza. i thought if she was the last november read sima was provide alicia with me. they also what? because i get your locals. so to most of the 7 people have been in a fa

tim zip on in tablet, block. nato said it's ours. we moved east, and the reason us had germany is so dangerous, is it? the law is the sovereignty of all the countries. the exceptionalism that america uses in its international war planning is one of the greatest threats to the populations of different nations. if nature, what is bad shareholders in united states and elsewhere in large obs companies would lose millions and millions or is business and business is good and that is the reality of what we're facing, which is fashion and marriage a form of body god is known as lead and the security of notice i think for him is about rebellion rock'n'roll and adventure in north korea who yet and cope yet. and globe rosky motor club enormously might be to and i was, you might, you know, see, ease me who enough they might as we can now. she's us, sweet. i'm a show. couldn't you totally undock of that for me, but that was most of the meal global mostly will keep, but you miss most but it will bodily select on. there it is there with mrs. i will

all saying nato troops were ready to intervene if necessary. the latest dispute was sparked last month when kosovo said serbian identity documents and car plate numbers would no longer be valid in its territory. the serve minority in kosovo, reacted angrily to the restrictions on movement prompting ca, civil, his government to delay the measures until next month. we'll bring in our guests in a moment. first i'll do here. as augment storage has more from brussels, the 1st meeting of the highest officials of serbia and gustavo, after more than a year, is taking place at the time of high and extensions. and the tories that is so strange that the european commission describes it as in the flame about european diplomats emphasize that they are determined that the meeting will continue until a solution to the current crisis is found. latest changes are triggered late in july. i had of course of intention to implement a law making all citizens including serves to use cost of our car plates. also people from selby entering possible will you have to rea

when you saw military retreated and handed the province over to nato. according to the un brokered armistice, nato was supposed to safeguard everybody, but instead they turned a province over to the ethnic. i'll be in the militants, and over 200000 people, mostly serbs, but as well as other non albanians were forced to leave. and in 2004, in order to pressured international community and granting corso independence, some 50000 obedience rampaged across the province, were almost a week before the american peacekeepers. finally, the, you know, told them to stop and other peacekeepers couldn't do it, couldn't or wouldn't do anything about it. and so i think go good to try and send the message that the will actually use force if necessary to defend the remaining serbs there. and there, and there civil and human rights, and again, with, with russia backing up belgrade on this, it may have tipped the scales enough to inform, pushed in and it's western backwards were again, the actual decision makers here that you know, this is not the kind of fight, they want

how is that likely to go down with nato given the war in ukraine? well, that's probably one been rated by nate the concrete. however, turkey also has some issues or purchasing systems from us because the us all the issues with grace, which the church case can voted to danger, to great and to great control was on the island. it was an issue where the condition j not days are be provided assistance against where it's and caregiver shoes. just probably based a grant to purchase. a 2nd part of this while it was a whether it was not it can in any way, you'd be just kind of a numbers. probably almost some of it's not allowed to be demonstrating that jerky has options it. it's not you don't have to buy that. it can offer to buy it off. no. so it probably is part of the bargain and asked whether it will be ready on all it's all ok. maximillian has talked about the economy. i believe turkey has been working with the criminal on a parallel import game to bypass some western sanctions. should turkey be worried about secondary sanctions or what is sort of turke

but the deal also created a rift between nato allies, turkey and the u. s. leading washington to expel turkey from the f 355 digit program on going to continue to play what it calls a balancing act between russia on the one side and nature on the other. but this doesn't fit well with western countries that threatened to impose sanctions if turkey continues to help russia evade sanctions of its war on ukraine. or in july anchor broke a deal between ukraine and russia to allow ukrainian grain to be exported to turkey . but with weak prices rising because of the war and ukraine and russia's blockade of ukrainian black sea port leading humanitarian organizations, a warning of a global hunger crisis. un secretary general entering quoterush hailed the deal is a beacon of hope that would help avoid food shortages from navient of people. worldwide. turkey lies opposite russia and ukraine across the black sea and both country perceive it as a neutral mediator. so turkey hosted several rounds of talks with them aimed at halting the war and ukraine, the spot nato me

spy at nato headquarters. i watched this play. a fascinating dynamic for me as a counterintelligence officer to be involved intentionally with the investigation and do the follow-up assessment. here is the bigger surprise and it has to do with christian robe. when we went to nato headquarters to coordinate our counterintelligence activities with the nato office, she was a deck of contact. she actually worked in the nato office of security. she took our most sensitive intelligence secrets, in some cases the top-secret level and secure them extensively for her boss who was the head of nato office of security. we were very concerned but we discovered she stopped spying years before. when it was revealed the topaz was her husband, she was stunned. because she thought her husband had stopped spying against nato years before because he committed to her once the children were born to stop his dangerous spying activity. he continued it nonetheless in both of them served time in prison. the last point is crucial to mak

it was a nato operation. it was in legal nato operation. they killed over 2000 innocent civilians and frankly, innocent soldiers who hadn't declared war anybody a a ah ah mm. a news media was cards and that if you speak russian, keep your voice down while out and about a couple of don't put your human symbols on display. yeah. a guy so you guys don't talk to strangers. 7 i avoid noisy gatherings with what she won't get them in and what actually eaten your colleagues and perhaps also your friends think you're guilty because you'll russian, you much now a a a, a glad to with being a by mutual evidence. i'm sure you've specific struggle with oh, with the russian state will never be tied up on the most i'm seeing with this is tabitha keystone. i used to faddle stevie when else call was about with greville van in the european union. the kremlin media machine, the state on russia today, and split or t sputnik given our video agency, roughly all band on youtube and pinterest, and we could push a digital electricity with me. it was also of the carr

spy at nato headquarters. so, i watched all of this play out, it was a fascinating dynamic for me as a young counterintelligence officer to be involved, tangentially, with the investigation. and then, to the follow-up damage assessment. but here's the bigger surprise, and it has to do with rough's wife, christiane rupp. much to our surprise, when we went to nato headquarters to coordinate our counter intelligence activities with the nato office of security, christiane rupp was our point of contact. she actually worked in the nato office's security. she took our most sensitive intelligence secrets, in some cases at the top secret level, and she secured them, ostensibly, for her boss, who is the head of the nato office of security. now, interestingly, we were very concerned, obviously, but we discovered that she had stopped buying years before. so, when it was revealed that topaz was her husband, she was stunned. because she thought that her husband had stopped spying against nato years before. because he had co

and as ukraine's intention to join nato, which raises the threat level to russia for the nato expansion and the already started militarization of ukrainian territories are considered red lines by the kremlin. ah, in the morning of february 24th 2022, the media, iraq's russian jets flying. as the key is news, that's hard to believe. it's a dramatic turn of events which they try to avoid. up to the last minute, the special operation begins. russian armed forces the tank from several directions simultaneously keyed how cough jenny goes to me. and nikolai above this, not only you return the call, courtesy with lancaster mill cutter rows are all gone completely with keel. so she machines on this forum a fuel coupling. when it comes to the ocean, electrical storm key, we only hope each is it over. never supposed to work for the where were you a new point? who carrying them are you in projects or will confirm the audio graham form issue grounds for me for coney, i'm a la carte proxy or me. he says with sewer rosemont for verb. untrue. are you sure too much? okay, and you said, what is the snea

would lead to a nato response. i don't think that the russians given the challenges they're having on the ground in ukraine, are particularly eager for a 2nd front in that war. so i expect that russia's escalation will be largely symbolic. i think there been some seats, some signs of that in the last 24 hours a look at the lithuanians are plenty angry at russia. and like most of europe, they are fully on board with the very, with the unprecedented tough sanctions that are being level. but should the, the baltic missions and of the eastern european countries be preparing for war? i know it, it is a war time. and by the way, i should make the argument that if the europeans are about to provide candidate member status to ukraine, then that will mean that the european union will be directly at war with russia. right? i mean, that's kind of what they're saying. so, i mean, i, i think that the europeans are preparing for war. it's a cold war right now. but there are elements of hot war, espionage, cyberattacks, this info

that's right. russia has actually putin has succeeded in uniting and strengthening nato's it. nato and ways that american presidents had only dreamed of . i mean, trump fail biden failed. obama failed. they couldn't get the germans to spend 2 percent on defense. they couldn't get the french and swedes to set the fins and swedes to say they wanted to join. they couldn't do permanent deployments forward deployments, and they couldn't get the europeans to recognize that their piece dividend did not mean that they could ignore national security. putin has accomplished all of those things and more for nato. so absolutely. putin has putin has succeeded in strengthening nato. i don't think that was his intention, but he has succeeded. speaking of us presidents under our president, donald trump, he initially withheld foreman $1000000.00 in, in the military 8 package to ukraine over to quit broke all to do with hunter vibe and joe biden, son. and this was in the middle of a conflict that was raging in ukraine's east. did an action like this enabled fulton and his ambitions in ukraine. no, not r

would lead to a nato response. i don't think that the russians given the challenges they're having on the ground in ukraine, are particularly eager for a 2nd front in that war. so i expect that russia's escalation will be largely symbolic. i think there been some seats, some signs of that in the last 24 hours a look at the lithuanians are plenty angry at russia. and like most of europe, they are fully on board with the very, with the unprecedented top sanctions that are being level. but should the, the baltic nations and all the eastern european countries be preparing for war. you know, it, it is a war time. and by the way, i should make the argument that if the europeans are about to a pride candidate member status to ukraine, then that will mean that the european union will be directly at war with russia. right? i mean, that's kind of what they're saying. so, i mean i, i think that the europeans are preparing for war. it's a cold war right now. but there are elements of hot war, espionage, cyberattacks, this info

in your opinion, what does nato actually provide to the national army stones? well, nato co ordinates the, the national army and places them under effectively. americans come off and of course natal promotes massive exports or u. s. military hardware. germany immediately use it to america and increased the defense budget with another 100000000000 euros to purchase 50 f, 35 american fighter planes in sweden as follow suit into the buying f 35 pipelines . even though the swedish top industries produce very adequate and very, very well respected equipment, the grip and plans. so it is also a promotion of american military industrial interests. how do you expect to focus on the situation ukraine to evolve in the coming months? do you expect western appetite should we say, for the conflict to grow decrease that seems to be a bit of a new ideological obsession, especially by german chancellor charles and president micron trons. under the yes or the leadership of the slightly taller physically, toler, lady, europe's lady from the lion. and, and there was a professor's

despite nato membership, turkey rejected calls to boycott russia. and instead they say they want to deepen their ties. but turkey also has a good relationship with ukraine, even supplying turkish made drones for use in the war. talks between ukraine and russia have since stalled. let's bring in our guest, maximilian is a fellow foreign policy institute and an expert in affairs. he judges from london. they are a specialist in the contemporary history of the middle east and a fellow in international relations she joins us from moscow. they are a former diplomat and director of a think tank that focuses on turkeys or in security, economic into digital policy. and he joins us from istanbul. thank you very much, all of you for joining us on inside story. i would like to begin with you. how have russia and turkey gotten to this point of cooperation, this point of closeness? >> well, this all began approximately in 2000. and they have been fortunate. and it is still partially based on the anti-western stance. in the beginning of the 2000, both russia and t

it hadn't joined nato. it wasn't considered an ally of america but in that space list operatives could operate almost as if it were independent even though they were working for the cia so i think as that period of time ended and as thpoland entered nato and began to be viewed america's adversaries as an ally of america, you're naturally going to get less rability to maneuver in that gray zone. the gray zone would end and it became the zone where their associated so that was natural. the relationship was so good that in 2000 then cia director george tenet writes a letter to the head of intelligence basically saying our intelligence cooperation with you is the second best americas had in its history and the first best would be the uk but still it's an extraordinary thing for tenant who is known for r bombast to consider a close relationship with the australians not to mention a close relationship with israel as an example of how t closely they become and i think inevitably that was going to fade with time as

should russia dare to step into nato territory, and exactly as russia did not want nato has now determined that it will keep many of these resources and troops in these places, long term, perhaps even permanently, to defend against whatever russia may have in store. now that moscow has turned out to be so unpredictable and so brutal. now the head of natal. yes. stoughton back told ukraine, it could rely on nato. nate to support for quote, as long as it takes, but how long member says realistically, keep up public support in their own countries. this is a big question. nan, of course, is being watched in every capital but a very closely in keith as well with ukranian officials warning or warning daily that in europe i cannot experience fatigue that the united states must keep up his support. and in fact, that is more difficult to say as gas prices rise as citizens start looking at where the money is going and wondering if, if military support for ukraine is in their interest. and in fact, there was some concern in july as european governments did not make any new military commitments of equ

he wanted the finalization of nato, but he's getting the nato-ization of finland, along with sweden. i mean it. seeking to join nato, finland and sweden are making a sacred commitment, an attack against one is an attack against all. it's article v of the washington treaty and the core, the very core of our alliance. and our allies committed to article v and it's stronger than ever, that commitment. the only time in history article v has been invoked was on 9/11 when the united states was attacked, and all our allies rallied to our side. the united states will never forget that, and we will never fail in our pledge to defend every, every, every inch of nato. that's why, together with our allies, we're taking steps to reinforce nato's eastern flank and strengthen our deterrence against any threats of aggression toward the alliance. you know -- and we're going to be -- >> president biden there speaking ahead of signing the document supporting the expansion of nato, adding sweden and finland. let's go to cnn's jeremy diamond at the white house. jeremy, big day for the alliance, and certa

that would lead to a nato response. i don't think that the russians given the challenges they're having on the ground in ukraine, are particularly eager for a 2nd front in that war. so i expect that russia's escalation will be largely symbolic. i think there been some seats, some signs of that in the last 24 hours a look at the lithuanians are plenty angry at russia. and like most of europe, they are fully on board with the very, with the unprecedented top sanctions that are being level. but should the, the baltic nations and other eastern european countries be preparing for war? i know it, it is a war time. and by the way, i should make the argument that if the europeans are about to provide candidate member status to ukraine, then that will mean that the european union will be directly at war with russia. right? i mean, that's kind of what they're saying. so, i mean i, i think that the europeans are preparing for war. it's a cold war right now. but there are elements of hot war, espionage, cyberattacks, this informati

what is the population feel about nato potentially getting involved? and to what extent do people blame and nato and the e u for the current crisis? will the, i actually believe the nato and the situation developed after the so called customer government has been meeting in washington with people, you know, so people are blaming them for everything that's happening. but there is k for that . are nato forces actually that was on cost and actually that, that's the thing they there was a meeting yesterday at the t. v and headquarters at the general staff were to be president and ministry reprint. representatives of ministry of defense have met with key for which is actually meters. organisation that is trying to keep these there. actually for now, that the only people that are trying to, you know, to, to, to step between ships and people that albanians, for example, there is a town called because it's going to be done that we've been talking about, you know, the one that is divided into by a bridge and people forces have to be there to, to try to not to n

so this is what wong equals the ation nato. basically, the whole concept carries, in addition to the integrated deterrence, which is the partnership of the military. you worse military when the allies under partners like india, they basically wanted a rule for natal. can i ask you because once you are, when you figure out how you're going to protect something, you need to figure out what is that you are protecting in these. c vision of security in the, as you call it, in the pacific security with essentially the de americans in the lead, everybody else and shipping in. but the americans making their own decisions according to their own vision of the world. what is it that, that, that security model is protecting the out of basically this ab want to protect the ceilings of communication from western pacific to india and ocean vision. but what they are trying to do is sort of put pressure on the p l in navy, which has the maritime secured going along the ceilings of traditional communications. lucy, they want to basically put pre

the nation surrounded by nato countries, and the e. u is forcing it to impose sanctions against russia that to, for me or net for that will be acquitted. thanks him from the name of tenicia. he will be no bush and i was which one of those that are going to be for you and never going to my summer toys all in cash to through the from email. you know, any god will agree on some authorities will re how many felony financial it can be from the stop stronger solution. and then you sharon may off until good carrots and donkeys here and also the stake in the carrot. europe works with the state more often than not. which is why serbia voted against russia in the u. n. r . now not another cousin. we're crunching yet her. shouldn't be city one man with you. she just city in one dublin i here to be running for some family blue sky never suggested ethel glum. the frog dominique view and you can also reach him. i think when he teach could w, cuz or point you, when you are in the shunt, gosh, that when you, when you see him start bureau to start off,

the nation surrounded by nato countries, and the e. u is forcing it to impose sanctions against russia. that to her me or not for the will be acquitted. thank families from when i looked finished, it will be to norwegian, i was which of those are going to be for you again to my from a saw it all in history rather. not there for me, my live life, any gosh. good again. own from a thought days worry, i'll be felony financial. it coming from the stop stronger solution or the new sharon may often talk of carrots and donkeys here. and also the stake in the carrot . europe works with the state more often than not. which is why serbia voted against russia in the u. n. os. now national, not because it were concurrent theater. shouldn't get city one man with the you. she just city one doubling and i here to be running for certainly blue sky level, suggesting ethical on the foot gardenia view. you can also reach him. i think we teach k w cuz our point you, when you mp shanker sh up with you and your team start bureau to start is marlisa status. c

well, so it was all in the connection between nato and people. and so is this, it didn't, it didn't match. also was the reason why we were having so much a member. so where are you bringing in natal is because need to use as with a mission of ukraine, that i rushing into creating bias class to read to russia and to for a few india and to bite to stuff. it's what 3 doesn't quite sure because it, because i did it. but since you and talking to the know us no more russia interesting. kansas is elected in this naval on stage it russia going to sing about security or no traffic a way so called a me and for security issue also. and we want to defend, cease out of the way for any any of the favor for those countries doesn't apply such weight to be useful. russian records will be prioritized for today. okay, well i can post, i can see you want to jump in there before i get your response. i also want to ask you the main for it to russia. according to the doctrine is the strategic policy of the usa to dominate the world's oceans. is that true, is there a sh

there has been yearly, military exercises in the entire north. nato has never brought stability. nato is a war alliance because nato has is not defending anything. they are an attack force canada in the u. s. b in the arctic. the u. s. don't care about anything but defeating russia. that was o crane. among other things is about as when a defeating russian newburgh say, the west ones to plunder the arctics. result this under the ice when it's melting. the thing on the world's oil is there, and the 3rd of the world's gas, so is under the ice. so it's not only love city am thinking, it's also all rubbing their area from resources as they tend to do from the west. poor europe. what will they do? we know they have these resources and so they are so i so i think they have to do everything they can in their why to get hands on their sources in there are might be a way of helping the west in their sense, made a predicament by being it, so i ranch and right out stupid, ah, french presidents, micron is in gas, which algeria seeking to men strange diplomatic ties between france and its former co

the nation surrounded by nato countries, and the e. u is forcing it to impose sanctions against russia that to her net for that will be acquitted. thank families from united of finished it will be no bush who knows what you know. they're going to be for you and then again, fema from a toys all in history over there for me, molly? no, any god good. a yawn from a thought days worry. i'll be felony financial it coming from the stop stronger solution or the new sharon may often talk of carrots and donkeys here. and also the stake in the carrot europe works with a stick more often than not, which is why serbia voted against russia in the u. n as now national, not because it were concurrent, yet her from the city, one man with you, she just city one doubling and i here be for me personally, bruce, he never suggested ethical on the foot gardenia this year when you can also reach him. if he, when he teach could w cuz or point you, when you are in the shad cash up with you and get him started bureau to start those . he has a mater status. you c

the american forces are hurting to fan nato allies. nato escalates even more in the special military operations. become a war when you put the l sup. so that will girls that never show another 1000 is my idea that i see your to us protecting costliest. you got what i mean with so you sleep, he should unique and he's a most of them let's you when you, let's only to stop finish entering your sewage near us. he cooked the cold february 2007 that amy of hooton's munich speech is a milestone in contemporary history. many consider his famous address of the security conference to be a turning point in relations between moscow. on the west with president putin smoke about major g, a political issues in no uncertain terms and harshly criticized the uni, polo world model u. s. foreign policy and unjustified use of force against other states. that's just not a scholar shooting me. me, it nickel, what machine you're wondering is i say, so my only answer elac of this between you is a bus missed you. are you little now about what if the here, you know, part of what 0 issue, fucked up. can you say

tomorrow night in 1999 nato bomb yugoslavia without un sanctions. time magazine came out with a cynical headline training massive bombing would open the way to peace. according to various sources, about 6000 civilians were killed by then you get larvae had broken up into many states, most of which had taken a pro western course. but not serbia. i rattle america number it'll she's come in. if i'm allowed one that will put elsewhere. americans somberly. my fellow visited, we're born bishop pollock. no, no, cassandra, my cell at this address more is offended 2 years from donna on but for bill knew it to concerning, put a little more paranoid fog, less for bill a mile and i studied him your triple here as it's my filters from yourself to me. so fleshly noonish to thrash immediately, cuz we're pretty put up either bond that wants to billy to which he put latoria with it. but i pleasure need lujan in there too. sure. it was him a quick question that kevin tilly came. cytotec patrol bombarded on there until he really cute warranties, kroger coach for it. a

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you know, we claim to be this big supporter of nato, except for the european union. and yet, the weapons that we're providing ukraine will end up through the black market into the hands of terrorists and criminal elements. and so you can do harm to the european union to our nato allies. you know, it's, it's, it's absurd. and the extreme discord in the united nations, less than a 3rd of the organizations, 193 member states, have back the statement instigated by cab condemning russia over the conflict and ukraine at a new york gathering of the un security council. the statement was read out by survey has let's, yeah, ukraine's ambassador to the un signatories include the united states, the european union, canada, japan and the united kingdom. while countries such as india and china didn't sign, we discussed the lack of unity at the un with so many lots united nations. unfortunately, by the long years, we're not in a resolution with the gospel, they're simply gentle, because of the pressure is done by the whole country, american wine, most of the time, don't do a fresh

about the new nato members apparently remain unaddressed. on kara has reiterated that to receive its approval, sweden and finland must extradite to turkey. members of the kurdistan workers, party, whom on kara considers terrorists turkeys top diplomat says this stipulation has yet to be fulfilled. lou, especially if he none the other hand is we see that sweden and finland have not yet fulfilled their commitments made in this document. and in their statements, we have not seen any steps taken in this direction. there are statements, they say they intend to do so, but we constantly underline that. we want to see concrete steps yesterday. political analysts use of era emphasized that turkey needs to feel secure within nato, and that's why it's important for sweden and finland to comply with the obligations that they've previously agreed to. when we look at on chris approval during the native summit to open the door for in the sweden membership. now i think it's very important to understand that this was an approval by turkish parliament. this w

from nato? -- would your grandfather have withdrawn the u.s. from nato? >> we have researchers in abilene that are fresher on the subject than i am. i don't know what he would've actually done. one of the points dwight eisenhower was anxious to make in the late 50's was that we should be open minded about things when we have the ability to be open minded about things. his farewell address, to me, contains two pearls of wisdom that are related. they relate to a lot of messaging. one was the warning against the military-industrial complex. the other was the danger that public policy would fall captive to a technological elite. both these suggestions are reflected in a lot of speeches by reagan, by others. a problem we have when we organized to accomplish a task is we create organizations. these become perpetual. they operate independently of the purpose for which they are established and independent of any real control. towards the end of his presidency, and he is -- i am certain of this, because i have documentation in my home, president eisenhower was ver

and nato to surge forces forward. one of the things we came out of the madrid summit with was commitment not just by the u.s. but other countries like germany, the u.k., canada, etc. was to put in place commitments to and restructure to rapidly surge forward into the eastern flank. i think that a signaling long-term commitment not just from the u.s., but the rest of nato to security in the used. >> we have time for a couple more. >> you just mentioned that the u.s. communicated with the iranians that we will not tolerate any attacks on u.s. troops. was it that made it through direct channels to around -- iran? and in ukraine, funding for training. since we are talking long-term is it only training on equipment or does it involve other things like tactical, fighting? since this is a long-term commitment, you are not presuming any outcome. however, often times, wars in with political settlements. a huge security system like this at the end of the day amtrak's political calculus. why don't you factor -- impacts political

and as ukraine's intention to join nato, which raises the threat level to russia for the nato expansion and the already started militarization of ukrainian territories are considered red lines by the kremlin. ah, in the morning of february 24th 2022, the media erupt. russian jets flying as the key is new. that's hard to believe. it's a dramatic turn of events which had tried to avoid up to the last minute. the special operation begins. russian armed forces that tank from several directions simultaneously keyed. how cough jenny goes to me. and nikolai, about long lee, you return the call courtesy with lancaster mill cutter road. rogan property with key social machines on this forum, a fuel cap, or will it comes with the newer version? the electrical storm key. we own the hotel each. is it so for so for the, where were you with a new point for carrying them? are you in front of so we'll go from the tutorial green form issue grants for me for conan a la carte proxy army. he said give me a sewer or not for present verbal true. are you sure to will not so clean you said what is the sneaky pl

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but if ukraine were to join nato , then the russian army would invade ukraine. so days after they said this for like the fiftieth time in a row, kamala harris arrived at the munich security conference and publicly reading from a script called for ukraine to join nato . she read the words they were written by someone, the state department. so they knew exactly what they were doing when they did it. they wanted a war with russia and now we have one . we're not winning at war. by the way, the main american casualties so far has been our economy, which is dying. so what was the point of this exercise? maybe someday they will tell us , but we don't tend to think about it because now we have yet another potential war to contend with and it comes in asia just what we need. this week, with the blessing of divided administration, nancy pelosi decided to head to taiwan. it's all but confirmed at this point. government officials in taipei have just been notified that pelosi's arrival is imminent. she may be in the air right now . she's definitely coming. one source told th

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now about nato itself, we know that people has been reflecting on the role of nato, whether nato has what kind of role that play. hm. nato has played in regional security according to nato itself, for it has a certain rationale. but as we have seen from iraq to olivia from afghanistan and to cost of all, et cetera, ever since 2001, nato has launched wars that have resulted in over 900000 deaths and about a baby that includes $400000.00 civilians. and those was also cause displacement of tens of millions of refugees. so what kind of role is nato play and how should it play as well for well peace and stability. and what kind of mindset should natal adopt when it plays as well? so this is a serious question for natal members to really think about next question. the chinese foreign ministry spokesperson taking questions on the range of subjects, mainly to the issue of tie one. let's go about to tiny changes in bangkok, monitoring events for us. and earlier in one of the questions that she was asked tony, she basically firmly put the blame on the situation so far around taiwan on the us w

the west is afraid. nato is afraid that we might cause problems. and now to the conflict in ukraine, we're europe's largest nuclear power plant has been shelled. once again, by ukrainian forces that's according to local authorities. russia says at least 17 shells were fired at the facility in the zeros region. in the last 24 hours, the plant has been constantly shelled like you have forces over the last few weeks with moscow recently, interfering referring to the bombing as nuclear terrorism. russia said it has handed over evidence of the shelling to united nations members. according to multiple reports, the international atomic energy agency has assembled a team to visit the plant as early as next week. and staying in the zeros of regions on friday, ukraine use the u. s supplied high mar system to shell, a small town hitting a residential building and killing at least 4 civilians, including 2 children. we heard from local residents. those really do movies. firstly, there was one explosion in after 5 seconds a 2nd. immediately everything collapsed.

and so you can do harm to the european union to our nato allies. you know, it's, it's, it's absurd. and the extreme and anti war coalition has criticized the swiss government for purchasing american fighter jets without a vote. branding a quote, mockery of a functioning democracy. the stop f. 35 coalition claims that in doing so. the government has ignored a petition containing 100000 signatures. opponents of the deal say the $6000000000.00 purchase would tie switzerland too closely to the u. s. calling it ill suited for the security needs of this most people. the government, meanwhile, has warned that any delay in the purchase would lead to a rising cost. we spoke with the executive vice president of the eurasia center url, ross newson, who believes switzerland is becoming more strange from it's much celebrated neutrality. they are staying closer to us technology i think they're being influenced more by walking. well, i think we've seen a gradual shift away from their traditional crowley. but again, we're, we're kind of ignoring voice people, which i see not just in switzerland but

and the, in this case are talking about 155 millimeter nato artillery. exclusive shells use to 155 millimeters caliber. it's a nato type. so the west is directly involved in the destruction of residential areas in don. yes, i believe that the criminal ukrainian regime should get the punish it deserves at least 17 shells landed in the center of the nest, instantly killing civilians and causing damage to infrastructure to people's houses to cars. this is just one of the victims. his name is earl stem. we have blurred out this picture for him, but 2nd, tell you that half of his half of his head is gone. his standing here at an intersection for over a probably waiting for people to cross when the shell landed and killed him instantly in his car was his wife and his best friends. they're right here as well, and i spoke to them and they sold me. what happened was a book just in an instant bang and we ran out. i was sitting in the back with the dog, lena was on the side and rushed him, was killed. so i ran out with the dog, the dog in my arms, blood all over th

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