they're trying to avoid another iraq. and you go back and look at the history of the decisionmaking on that and it gets about a d or a d-minus. vietnam, probably an f. and they're looking at this and they're saying now, wait a minute, let's really study it, let's look at what we want to do. now, they may come up with the wrong answer. the process of debate may be totally inadequate, but they're pausing. chris: let's look at a categorical bottom line question and we asked the matthew meter of 12 of our regulars, will the president send the additional 40,000 troops to afghanistan? you get a bottom line question out there and get a true divide, i hate these, 6-6, split on whether the president will or will not give general mcchrystal those 40,000 more troops. howard and katty, you're both in the meter and both of you say yes he'll give them the 40,000. >> it's important to say what are the 40,000 doing? it's important we have not just the biden plan and mcchrystal plan. there are ranges of options. some of these troops are m

they feel that the country got very angry at george bush for seeming to rush to war in iraq, and they don't want to do that again, even though they were the ones who said they were going to get serious about afghanistan. they want to make sure they've got it right. i think there's probably more public support for that than we think. people know that lives are at stake here. but getting the strategy right, i think, chris, something really important happened this week, which is that the president himself took the extreme option of walking away from afghanistan off the table. he essentially said the approach that my own vice president has been privately advancing, this idea of focusing on counterterrorism, using the predators to zap al qaeda, we're not going to do that. in other words -- >> well, i'm not so sure that's fair. i think bide epi's position, -- bide-'s position, in the pull out and hold, not to go back the other way. >> there was an argument that we should have a much more restrictive counterterrorism approach here, whether it's biden or somebody else. but essentially the pre

. >> president obama says at least a few months to assess the position of iraq. but these talks are a test of respect for the rights according to opera and then a job. -- the leader of iran. >> the portis study finds that kids who eat candy every single day may be more likely to can -- to be convicted of violent crimes when they grow up. giving them sweet ride away stopped them from learning to behave when they do not get what they want. that brings us to our watercooler question of the day. do you think kids who are alloawed to eat candy every day could be more likely to commit violent crimes when they grow up? email us your response to watercooler@wbaltv.com >> keep that in mind as halloween approaches. still ahead, a local celebrity returns to put down the show. we will take you there. >> october is breast cancer awareness month. our our city is getting involved. >> you have a nice commute so far. i >> 55 degrees. a brisk morning downtown. we will see plenty of sunshine. the sunshine will officially rise this morning at 7:00 03. sunny skies. 66-68. similar to

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i said weed be out of iraq. are we? not the last time i checked. i said i'd make improvements in the war in afghanistan. is it better? no, i think it's actually worse. how about health care reform? hell no. >> does the biting rachel maddow, the change of promise? >> does the idea of the war that bush and cheney haven't been able to wrap up until less than a year, that's true. >> but a lot of people on the left have been critical about the wars in particular and. >> sure. >> other things that have not been accomplished. >> i've been among the most critical but i would not expect it to be done by now. >> the reason it's funny is because it's true. the honeymoon is over. they have tremendous expectations. that's the hang over of any campaign promise and now domestic policy with economy, health care, afghanistan and everywhere else, the wheel is turning. >> the government is hard. a lot of what they are doing, they can promise to close guantanamo but it's actually hard to close t they can promise to employ sanctions on iran but the second push and chen

is bringing home more than 4,000 troops from iraq by the end of october. that's really good. [ cheers and applause ] but joe wilson thinks the troops should stay until july! [ scattered applause ] someone ought to do a "you lie" joke. thank you, quest. he only laughed for a little bit. toyota recalled 4 million cars yesterday over problems because defective floor mats that could lead to a crash. chrylser was like, "um, if you're not going to use those floor mats, we'll take them." [ laughter ] i also read that british airways began offering luxury business flights between london and new york starting at $3,172. hey, if i wanted to pay $3,000 to sit in a chair for hours, i'll just go to a yankee game. right? i mean, it's that -- woody allen signed an petition objecting to director roman polanski's arrest for having sex with a minor. 'cause if there is one person you want defending you on that kind of thing, it's woody allen, right? [ laughter ] "appreciate that, wood. no, you don't have to do it." it was announced yesterday that cleveland, ohio will host th

lives independently, makes quilts for babies whose parents are serving in iraq. now, that's sweet. finally, we have steve and vickie wrubel from holiday, florida. 80 years they've been married. he's 100 and she's 98. secret to marital longevity -- and i love this -- they still go grocery shopping together. there is a very romantic thing about that. that is a lovely tie-in. don't you like to go grocery shopping, matt? >> willard, thank you very much, sir. it's always good to see you. when we come back, martha stewart is going to help us get ready for halloween. ♪ >>> back at 8:38. this morning on "martha on today," sweet and savory pumpkin recipes. martha stewart is here to share a few that are straight from her special holiday issue. martha, good morning to you. >> how do you like the cover? >> well, you didn't put any makeup on. >> that's my worst -- >> no, just kidding. >> that was my worst -- >> that's yours? >> and it is full of amazing ideas for halloween. >> and the shots were taken out of your home, right? >> oh, that's in my stable, right, the ones with the horse. >> that