commissioner murphy: yes. commissioner lee: you have one month to get your permit and get it resolved. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner lee: next item please. >> the next item is item number d, which is the continuing appeal regarding an order of abatement. the case number is 6733. the address is 5 freemore street. this is just a continuance, so we will allow three minutes for each side. for the updates. do we have someone from the department first? commissioner lee: yes, could the department please come forward and give us a brief update of what is happening? >> good morning, commissioners. the address by seymour street -- 5 seymour street. the case was previously held on november 17, 2010, continued to today. the violation, there was construction of a north elevation without permits. first and second notification were issued and on december 3 of 2009, an order of abatement was issued with conditions to file application to legalize, complete with review and time limits. there was a permit issued in june

murphy brings up a good point. the imitation of the schematic system is telling on the future adoption of the computer system. if they cannot get the simple electronic system to work, and i have a piece of paper that said it was supposed to work by last november -- if they cannot get the simple electronic system to work, what kind of a permit tracking system are we going to have? probably worse than the one we have now. thank you. commissioner hechanova: thank you. next item. >> 9d, an update on other activities affecting the administration of the department. >> actually the hiring in of the new clerical people that will be running the system. these people were supposed to be hired in january, as we all know, and the requisitions were not signed by the mayor's office until last week. we are putting them out there. we do need people to man the desks that will be issuing the tickets to people, so it is not just a matter of whether the computer system works or not. we also have to have staff to be able to man the syst

commissioner murphy: ok. i will second that motion. >> upholding the cost until the time when the permit was applied for. vice president mar: 90 days from today. commissioner walker: yes. >> i mean, there has to be some process that is consistent. i do not see that this is -- i will not go into it. thank you very much and i will complete the work in 90 days. commissioner walker: do we have a second on that? commissioners, just a clarification. i believe the department stated they were $1050 as of the day the permit was applied for, but there are additional costs since that time. and commissioner walker: can i get clear on the additional costs? commissioner murphy: my understanding is that before you today is to uphold the order of abatement and to approve the assessment of cost to this point -- i'm sorry -- to the date of the hearing. any other costs since then i would assume would be dealt with when we did our final fee. it would not be under this. that is my understanding. commissioner walker: the cost asse

commissioner murphy: yes. president lee: maybe we can continue the matter and revisit this in 120 days and get an update. is that how we should do this? >> can't hear you. sorry. president lee: maybe we should continue this matter for 120 days and then revisit it at that time. and get an update from the project. can we do that? commissioner murphy: let's get some legal advice. >> it's up to the board how you want to proceed. commissioner murphy's pending motion would be a final decision today which is that the order of abatement would be stayed for 120 days. if all work is not completed by then then the order will automatically issue. president lee: ok. >> the alternative that commissioner lee is suggesting is get a status update and rendering a final decision. president lee: the question is whether the abatement is upheld and the abatement is filed what happens to the tenants? >> nothing. it's just an abatement ordered and issued against the property. president lee: and leave it with commissioner murphy's mot

commissioner murphy: yes. commissioner lee: you have one month to get your permit and get it resolved. thank you. >> thank you. commissioner

. >> commissioner murphy? commissioner murphy: no. >> four to one. thank you. item six. report on the progress for setting standards for gray water systems, including permit approval for dbi and coordination with the puc. >> good morning, commissioners, vice president mar. chief plumbing inspector, san francisco. i've been asked to come and speak as part of rainwatgray wa. i have been working with the puc for the past two years now, incorporating a manual for homeowners, customers, contractors that want to start installing the re water systems. one of the things i have right now is a draft that explains how systems are to be installed. it with dbi and the plumbing department, we realized it is expensive to do the systems. one of the things in the manual is the type of plan check of the type of systems that are installed, due to the fact that we have properties that are one on top of another. planchette is one of the important things to have done tree will save contractors, homeowners money and time before they obtained a permit or start to do any type of work, so they kn

commissioner murphy: it happens. you get a contractor that was a lousy job, but it is still the duty of the department to enforce and do it correctly. >> i understand that. i do. and we plan -- we have always tried to do as homeowners and be responsible to our tenants to do the right thing. i think that is demonstrated by the amount of money and time we spend to have this done here also, our diligence with contacting the puc and calling the city and asking for assistance. yes, i understand that it is ultimately the homeowners responsibility, but i think that we look to professionals and we look to agents that have the expertise to tell us whether we are going about this the right way. in this instance, we only got the direction after the fact. commissioner murphy: you seem to me to be a very responsible homeowner. that is my impression of you. i just think you were in bad luck. you bet the wrong contractor. that is where you are today. >> when was the last time that your basement -- or problem flooding occurred? >> i

commissioner murphy: ok. that's all i wanted to know. commissioner murphy: thank you. president lee: commissioner walker and then mar. commissioner walker: this residency began in 2005. looking at the shower, etc., it looks to me that these are much older than that. i could be wrong. >> yeah. those were there but, remember, you can have showers in a commercial unit in the event that you're dealing with toxics. so the fact there is a shower in there to me doesn't dictate -- commissioner walker: i'm curious what you're renting this out for. >> it's commercial. multimedia arts. i have the lease. commissioner walker: so you've never been there inspecting your property? >> yes. you can't tell the people living there, depending on when you're there and what type of camouflage is being used. in is a 3,500 square foot large commercial space. commissioner walker: what were you renting at a rate of? i'm curious. >> $4,500 per month. commissioner walker: 3,500 square feet. president lee: commissioner mar. commissioner mar: i want to follow-up on commissioner murphy's questions. w

murphy. mr. murphy had no desire to harm the dance studio or any other operation. one more correction. the actual property line is 18 inches. there will be no need for relocation of the five sprinklers or any of the utilities. this is actually well within their property. this is 18 inches. we have a survey that describes that. >> how would someone pass through 18 inches to read a meter or do the pressure test? >> it is in the front of the building. this is a accessible. >> you can read this through the fence? >> correct. my client has no ill will towards the neighbor at all. they did not appeal the change of occupancy. >> barrier wall, is that at the property line? >> right. >> if you have access with a setback for a couple of doors, it looks like. are there permits for the other two buildings? >> we have a site permit. we are in the process of filing for an addendum. the construction permit would most likely be issued in a week. the appellant is claiming that there was a huge shropshires. they are two stories. there's nothing unusual. >> this site permit covers al

murphy, he said there would be no negotiations. commissioner peterson: were unified in march of 2010? >> we were notified of an environmental impact statement, at which time i asked if there were building plans submitted, and there were none. when we investigated, we found the building plan for another building, nothis one. commissioner peterson: thank you. commissioner hwang: in order for you to access your sprinklers and meters at this time, you have to ask mr. murphy because of the chain link fence? >> exactly. commissioner hwang: and how does that work out? >> it is difficult. when he had tenants that were friendly, that would let us on to the property so we could do the maintenance work. but when it decided to clear out the tenants and prepare to build, which was about two and 1/2, three years ago, it has been really hard to get hold of him. as i said, he said we have never met, but i have met him at least once before to try to gain access. commissioner hwang: the windows on that line, are you able to get in and out of them if

murphy, he said there would be no negotiations. commissioner peterson: were unified in march of 2010? >> we were notified of an environmental impact statement, at which time i asked if there were building plans submitted, and there were none. when we investigated, we found the building plan for another building, not this one. commissioner peterson: thank you. commissioner hwang: in order for you to access your sprinklers and meters at this time, you have to ask mr. murphy because of the chain link fence? >> exactly. commissioner hwang: and how does that work out? >> it is difficult. when he had tenants that were friendly, that would let us on to the property so we could do the maintenance work. but when it decided to clear out the tenants and prepare to build, which was about two and 1/2, three years ago, it has been really hard to get hold of him. as i said, he said we have never met, but i have met him at least once before to try to gain access. commissioner hwang: the windows on that line, are you able to get in and out of them

[roll call] we are expecting commissioner murphy. commissioner romero and commissioner hechanova are excused. we have a quorum. the next item on the agenda is the oath. will all those who will be giving testimony today please rise and raise your right hands? this is for the abatement of pills. do you swear that the testimony you are about to give us the truth to the best of your knowledge? thank you. we can move on to item number c, which is new appeals. order of abatement case 1, case number 6748 1429 hyde street. the act it -- the action requested by the appellant is assessment of costs and fees imposed by the order abatement be waived. we will hear from the department first for seven minutes and then the appellant. then we will have discussion, and then there is a three-minute rebuttal for each side. if we could hear from the department representative first. >> good morning, commissioners. i work for the department of building inspection as a plumbing and mechanical and specter. -- inspector. the original notice of violation was w

murphy is not here today. item 9 it's not on today's calendar. you have several members of the public who wish to thards matter including christopher full kerson. and peter webb. >> thank you, directors. i want to thank you for your roll today. i have noticed that you voted in favor of identically what i proposed at the beginning of the town hall meeting. there was five meetings of a round-up that we were on the same page if you were both in favor of a meter increase. that would be something that i don't ask for. i'd liking to say that your -- if i were to be wrong that they're ever relevant or make sense, do i not believe that i'm wrong. i'd like to appeal to you especially to director ford to reconsider developing the o.t.a. that's the open task. ray side from the good will, you'll be ability to ghons strait by receiving 4% of the money. the o.t.a. will receive many problems that have never been solved by releasing more medallions. open taxi accent will encourage the people. it will reduce the log jam at conventional dispatch. several things fa

commissioner murphy:? >> yes. >> commissioner mar? >> yes. >> the motion carries. next item is item e, which is public comment. this is public comment for the abatement appeals hearing. seeing none, we have item f, which is adjournment. commissioner lee: ok, we will adjourn for 10 minutes and we will reconvene as the bic. >> thank you. >> thank you. [horns honking] [siren wails] announcer: big dreams and goodrades aren't enough to get into college. there are actual steps you need to take. finding someone who can help is the first and most important. for the next steps, go to knowhow2go.org. >> welcome to the rules committee. my name is supervisor kim. joined by supervisor farrel. the court today is linda wong. they record each meeting and make the transcripts available online. are there any announcements? >> this adams ammendment will go to the full board. >> and can we excuse supervisor ellsbernd? call item number one. >> motion to appoint mirkarimi to the council. >> we will open up for public comment. public comment is now closed. are there any comments or quest

commissioner murphy: i make a motion we adjourn. commissioner walker: second. >> we are now adjourned. >> good afternoon. welcome to the san francisco board of supervisors meeting for may 17. could you please call the roll. >> [roll call] mr. president, all members are present. supervisor chiu: thank you. colleagues, can we have a motion to excuse supervisor campos. ladies and gentlemen, please join me in the pledge of allegiance. [unintelligible] into the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. colleagues, you should have copies of the april 12 meetings. motion to accept? motion by supervisor mirkarimi, second by supervisor mar. are there any communications? >> i have no communications. >> if you could read the consent agenda. items one through 14 comprise the consent agenda. supervisor chiu: colleagues, would we like to sever any of these items? roll call on items one through 14. >> supervisor kim? aye. supervisor mar.? aye. supervisor mirkarimi? aye. supervisor carmen chu

. >> commissioner murphy. how can we miss you? we have a your up and the next -- we have a quorum and the next item is the oath. will all parties giving testimony today please stand and raise your right hand? do you swear that the testimony you are about to give is the truth to the best of your knowledge? ok. thank you. we may now go on to item number c which is approval of the minutes and there are three sets of minutes that we will take each one of them separately. first set of minutes is from may 19, 2010. >> a motion to approv

murphy is not here today. item 9 it's not on today's calendar. you have several members of the public who wish to thards matter including christopher full kerson. and peter webb. >> thank you, directors. i want to thank you for your roll today. i have noticed that you voted in favor of identically what i proposed at the beginning of the town hall meeting. there was five meetings of a round-up that we were on the same page if you were both in favor of a meter increase. that would be something that i don't ask for. i'd liking to say that your -- if i were to be wrong that they're ever relevant or make sense, do i not believe that i'm wrong. i'd like to appeal to you especially to director ford to reconsider developing the o.t.a. that's the open task. ray side from the good will, you'll be ability to ghons strait by receiving 4% of the money. the o.t.a. will receive many problems that have never been solved by releasing more medallions. open taxi accent will encourage th

involving deputy chief murphy. there needs to be a timely manner that the taxi drivers and dispatchers get the information that a violent crime has occurred so they can look at the suspect ordeal with the issue. unfortunately the way it's being done now is a little difficult and i'm hoping under chief you can look at how taxi enforcement is being done and bring it back the way it was before. thank you and good luck to you. >> next speaker. we are waiting for you clyde. you are next. >> hello, good evening. i worked on police issues throughout the 1990's. knew a lot of police chiefs and i want to say something to what a police chief told me. you might recognize his name, tony boza. he was a cop in new york and police chief in minneapolis. he said one thing. either have to represent the people or you have to make a choice and represent the police union. you have to make a choice. i hope you make the right one. >> good evening, clyde. >> good evening. we spoke before, i think, chief suhr? didn't i tell you on monday y

i started on the midnight shift under con murphy in 1981. the next 30 years i worked throughout the city in every neighborhood most recently installed bayview station and i have to give a shout out to the bayview. i have served this city to the best of my ability and i will continue that commitment. i promise to work every day to instill the sense of pride i feel to every officer and new recruit and i will always lead by example. i will not ask anyone to enter any duty i have not done or wouldn't do myself. i do not enter into this position lightly. in fact i'm humbled by it. it is a great honor and i will work every day to make the city safe and residents proud of their police department. i can't believe i wrote this and i still can't get through this. it is critical to our success that we have and maintain the public's trust. the character of the officers of the sfpd must be above reproach. training will be a big part of this. someone once said we will not train to get it right. we will train until away can't get it wrong. that will happen

murphy is not here today. item 9 it's not on today's calendar. you have several members of the public who wish to thards matter including christopher full kerson. and peter webb. >> thank you, directors. i want to thank you for your roll today. i have noticed that you voted in favor of identically what i proposed at the beginning of the town hall meeting. there was five meetings of a round-up that we were on the same page if you were both in favor of a meter increase. that would be something that i don't ask for. i'd liking to say that your -- if i were to be wrong that they're ever relevant or make sense, do i not believe that i'm wrong. i'd like to appeal to you especially to director ford to reconsider developing the o.t.a. that's the open task. ray side from the good will, you'll be ability to ghons strait by receiving 4% of the money. the o.t.a. will receive many problems that have never been solved by releasing more medallions. open taxi accent will encourage the people. it will reduce the log jam at