but who owns that space that john wayne owned? i don't know. >> every kid in my school in england -- this shows you the global appeal of your father, could do an impersonation of your dad. i could do it. get off your horse and drink your milk. i doubt he ever said that. can you do a john wayne? >> i can't. >> you never tried? >> i'm not going to do it on national television. >> let's take a break. i want to come back -- this is going to be great. you're going to bring on some of the possessions at the auction which raised over $5 million. i'm actually going to hold john wayne's oscar. that's going to be quite a moment. an accident doesn't have to slow you down. with better car replacement, available only with liberty mutual auto insurance, if your car is totaled, we give you the money for a car one model year newer. to learn more, visit us today. responsibility. what's your policy? i'm forty eight years-old, i love to swim, and i love to walk outside. osteo bi-flex has really helped my knees. osteo bi-flex has been incredible for

>> the auction was put on by john wayne enterprises so that the john wayne enterprises received all of the proceeds and they sponsor the cancer research, and the dvds went directly to the foundation and some auction items went directly to the foundation, but most of the items went into the preserve to protect the image and life. >> this is your father's passport which is date of birth, may 26th, 1907, and awarded in 1970. great picture of him there. >> yes. >> and what is fascinated where he went even then and he was a well traveled man. >> always on the move. >> visas from hong kong and portugal and all around the world. >> yes, greece, panama and mexico. >> this is something he would be proud of. this is the congressional honor medal? what is this? >> this is the congressional gold medal and the highest civilian award. >> civilian version of the medal of honor. >> correct. the military version. be careful, because it might fall out of there. >> that is an amazing thing as well. >> yeah, yeah. >> this is his army gear. which movie is that from? >> this is from the "green beret" and he

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. >> bret: she mixes up iowa legend john wayne and serial killer john wayne gacy. >> john wayne is from winterson, iowa. john wayne gacy used to live in waterloo. a mass murderer. if you are truly from waterloo you would know the difference between duke and a felon. >> sure. >> bret: part of the deal. >> is it a challenge? >> sure it's a challenge. the president of the united states has to stand up and lead the nation. they can't embarrass the american people. so there is part of toughening up and learning how to do this job. ♪ >> bret: also on june 27, another republican jumps in. hoping to catch iowa lightning in a bottle. >> i never thought i'd speak in atumbwua. >> thaddeus mccotter. eight-year member of congress. >> bret: he asked undecided activist robin out for coffee. the washington big shot courting the iowa activist. >> i did look at the straw poll. >> bret: for now, only willing to give mccotter friendly iowa advice. >> got to get your statement down, so you can talk to people face to face. >> bret: july turns to august. and the straw poll fast approaches. >> the straw vote

more than 30 years of ago body after body was pulled from the home of serial killer john wayne gacy fifth eight were never identified now investigators find have a name enclosure for one family that afternoon i'm steve sanders >>and i'm dina bair that story in just a minute but first we have breaking news, faugh conrad murray sentenced today to four years in prison faugh judge michael pastor said he will not grant probation for doctor conrad murray he said that conrad murray engaged in medical madness with michael jackson and was reckless in his use of propofal, >>back to our other top story muriel clair is live at the daley center with more on the identification of the john wayne gacy 19th victim >>most of these victims were identified by using dental records at the time but eight of those victims remained unidentified until the cook county sheriff's office were able to exhume the remaining victim's bodies for more sophisticated dna technology through a lab in texas ... this effort has brought results seven of these eight victims remain unidentified ... victim 19 who was the 19th victim

in my fbi unit we met with people like john wayne gacy, who killed dozens of teenage boys and buried them in his basement. and joseph paul franklin, a violent drifter who targeted interracial couples. every one of these guys has something to teach us, and what i learned from them has helped put other serial killers away. in just a few moments, you'll meet a man who embodies every parent's worst nightmare. he preys on friend's children,

. >> she mixes up iowa legend john wayne and serial killer john wayne gacy. >> john wayne is from iowa. john wayne gacy used to live in water lou, mass murderer. if you are truly from water lou you would know the difference between the duke and a felon. >> that is part of the deal. >> is it a challenge? >> it is a challenge. the president of the united states has to stand up in the nation. it is learning how to do this job. >> also on june 27th another republican jumps in. >> i never thought i would be speaking in the tum roy. >> that is 8 year house member in michigan. >> you never thought you would hear a speech from a dude named fa dishg an. >> he asked the undecided activist robin out for coffee. the washington big shot quoting the iowa activist. >> you will be at the straw polls. >> for now maum burg is only willing to give him friendly iowa advice. >> you have to get your statements down so you can talk to people face to face. >> july turns to august and the straw poll fast approaches. >> when you are looking at the results it's the best candidate race. >> what are you going to d

legend john wayne and serial killer john wayne gacy. >> john wayne gacy lived in waterloo -- you know, mass murderer. if you are from waterloo, you would know the difference between the the duke and a felon. >> sure, sure. >> that's part of the deal. >> yeah. >> is it a challenge? >> oh, sure, it's a challenge. but the president of the united states has to stand up and lead the nation and they can't embarrass the american people. so part of toughening up and learning how it do this job. >> also on june 27, another republican jumps in, hoping to catch iowa lightning in a bottle. >> i never thought i would be speaking here. >> thaddeus mccotter. >> in all honesty, you never thought you would hear a speech from a dude named thaddeus. he asked an undecided for coffee. the washington big shot, courting the iowa activist. for now, at least, she's only willing to give him friendly iowa advice. >> you have to get your -- your statements down so you can talk to people, face to face. >> july tumps to august and the straw poll fast approaches. >> the straw vote sends a powerful message. >> the s

the family of john wayne gacy's victim is reacting, coming up. plus, this guy is a convicted kidnapper. and he's now suing his one-time hostages for six figures from behind bars. details ahead. protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in germany? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. >> shep: investigators in chicago say they've identified the victim of serial killer jan wayne gacy more than three decades after his i infamous killing spree. a court convicted gacy of murdering 33 young men over six years in the late 1970s. stabbing one victim and strangling the others. the detectives say most of those bodies turned up in a crawl space under gacy's own home. they never identifie

legend john wayne and serial killer john wayne gacy. >> john wayne gacy lived in waterloo -- you know, mass murderer. if you are from waterloo, you would know the difference between the the duke and a felon. >> sure, sure. >> that's part of the deal. >> yeah. >> is it a challenge? >> oh, sure, it's a challenge. but the president of the united states has to stand up and lead the nation and they can't embarrass the american people. so part of toughening up and learning how it do this job. >> also on june 27, another republican jumps in, hoping to catch iowa lightning in a bottle. >> i never thought i would be speaking here. >> thaddeus mccotter. >> in all honesty, you never thought you would hear a speech from a dude named thaddeus. he asked an undecided for coffee. the washington big shot, courting the iowa activist. for now, at least, she's only willing to give him friendly iowa advice. >> you have to get your -- your statements down so you can talk to people, face to face. >> july tumps to august and the straw poll fast approaches. >> the straw vote sends a powerful message. >> the s

legend john wayne and serial killer john wayne gacy. >> john wayne gacy lived in waterloo -- you know, mass murderer. if you are from waterloo, you would know the difference between the the duke and a felon. >> sure, sure. >> that's part of the deal. >> yeah. >> is it a challenge? >> oh, sure, it's a challenge. but the president of the united states has to stand up and lead the nation and they can't embarrass the american people. so part of toughening up and learning how it do this job. >> also on june 27, another republican jumps in, hoping to catch iowa lightning in a bottle. >> i never thought i would be speaking here. >> thaddeus mccotter. >> in all honesty, you never thought you would hear a speech from a dude named thaddeus. he asked an undecided for coffee. the washington big shot, courting the iowa activist. for now, at least, she's only willing to give him friendly iowa advice. >> you have to get your -- your statements down so you can talk to people, face to face. >> july tumps to august and the straw poll fast approaches. >> the straw vote sends a powerful message. >> the s

legend john wayne and serial killer john wayne gacy. >> john wayne gacy lived in waterloo -- you know, mass murderer. if you are from waterloo, you would know the difference between the the duke and a felon. >> sure, sure. >> that's part of the deal. >> yeah. >> is it a challenge? >> oh, sure, it's a challenge. but the president of the united states has to stand up and lead the nation and they can't embarrass the american people. so part of toughening up and learning how it do this job. >> also on june 27, another republican jumps in, hoping to catch iowa lightning in a bottle. >> i never thought i would be speaking here. >> thaddeus mccotter. >> in all honesty, you never thought you would hear a speech from a dude named thaddeus. he asked an undecided for coffee. the washington big shot, courting the iowa activist. for now, at least, she's only willing to give him friendly iowa advice. >> you have to get your -- your statements down so you can talk to people, face to face. >> july tumps to august and the straw poll fast approaches. >> the straw vote sends a powerful message. >> the s

legend john wayne and serial killer john wayne gacy. >> john wayne gacy lived in waterloo -- you know, mass murderer. if you are from waterloo, you would know the difference between the the duke and a felon. >> sure, sure. >> that's part of the deal. >> yeah. >> is it a challenge? >> oh, sure, it's a challenge. but the president of the united states has to stand up and lead the nation and they can't embarrass the american people. so part of toughening up and learning how it do this job. >> also on june 27, another republican jumps in, hoping to catch iowa lightning in a bottle. >> i never thought i would be speaking here. >> thaddeus mccotter. >> in all honesty, you never thought you would hear a speech from a dude named thaddeus. he asked an undecided for coffee. the washington big shot, courting the iowa activist. for now, at least, she's only willing to give him friendly iowa advice. >> you have to get your -- your statements down so you can talk to people, face to face. >> july tumps to august and the straw poll fast approaches. >> the straw vote sends a powerful message. >> the s

. >> previously unidentified victim not identified, the victim of john wayne gacy remains found in the crawlspace 19 year-old william george bundy. this appeared in october 1976. john wayne gacy convicted of murdering 33 young men and boys in the 1970's many found in crawlspace up his no word park township home. 1970's dna evidence did not exist police used dental records for identification but in this case they were destroyed. mother came forward seeking the records but the dentist had retired at family proceeded to try to find the dentist they found dead this destroyed all dental records >> i remember him leaving that one night going to a party and that was the last time i saw him >> 8 of victims of john wayne gacy still remain i unidentified despite efforts by police, lethal injection in 1994. man accused of killing a dermatologist david cornbleet five years ago convicted of the crime but in france hans peterson both united states and french citizen fled to french territory after the murder. surrendered only after chicago police issued a warrant. french denied extradition because of

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>> bill: the answer is of course john wayne gacy. doocy is ahead with one question to go maccallum. you still have a shot unless you get it wrong. >> okay. let's go. [ laughter ] >> bill: in the late 1960's, charles manson directed his cult followers to commit a series of murders. >> choo choo, i know my mind. and i trust the very same person that you do. and the very same person that you do. [ laughter ] >> bill: man son later said he had been inspired by which beatles song to do his dastardly deeds? >> the answer is helter skelter. the answer of his book written by who? >> wamba. >> bill: that's wrong. extra crecket credit. >> vince baluci. >> bill: you win, doocy. you hear the applause. >> yea! >> bill: coming right back with the great american news quiz, the naturur bill political back of the book segment tonight. the great american news quiz, the natural disaster edition. ready for the natural disaster edition, doocy, are you? >> i'm a master at that. >> bill: you haven't won this in about 18 weeks. >> i hit a dry patch. [ laughter ] >> bill: here we go. question number one the

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>> bill: the answer is of course john wayne gacy. doocy is ahead with one question to go maccallum. you still have a shot unless you get it wrong. >> okay. let's go. [ laughter ] >> bill: in the late 1960's, charles manson directed his cult followers to commit a series of murders. >> choo choo, i know my mind. and i trust the very same person that you do. and the very same person that you do. [ laughter ] >> bill: man son later said he had been inspired by which beatles song to do his dastardly deeds? >> the answer is helter skelter. the answer of his book written by who? >> wamba. >> bill: that's wrong. extra crecket credit. >> vince baluci. >> bill: you win, doocy. you hear the applause. >> yea! >> bill: coming right back with the great american news with the great american news quiz, the nat people love our potpourri parties. it's a smell of a good time. this is the juniper! oh that is magical. [ male announcer ] some parties need a bowl of queso. made from creamy velveeta and zesty rotel tomatoes and green chiles. it makes any get-together better. but my nose is still runny. [ m

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this is not tore yoes serial killer john wayne gassy but his daughter melissa was born, i missed my daughter for two days. >> and what was it like without your family all of these years? >> lonely? >> and so you've obviously reunited with them. what was it like? what was your reaction when they found you? did they give you a call and say, hi, this is your sister and brother? >> yeah, my brother was the first one to call. >> first of all, what was your reaction? >> well, my sister alice, unfortunately, she's not here with us right now. >> and could you believe it when you got the call? how did you manage to get together and have a reunion? >> i was in alabama on the bus at 5:00 and arrived at 2:30 in the morning. >> did you ever actually meet john wayne gacy? explain what you mean by you might have been one of his victims? >> yeah, a couple days i worked with him. i raked leaves, pulled some leaves and things like that. >> how would you describe him? >> sickening. >> why is that? >> very disturbed. >> what is your plan now that you've had a reunion with your family? where do you go from here?

>> well, i would say, i would say someone like john wayne gaysy, people like that. i'm not going to miss him really honestly. >> charlie: was he from your neighborhood back there. >> well, not far, no. i wasn't from chicago but i was living there then. >> charlie: right. >> you know, there are people who commit acts that are so appalling that i don't see it as so ereme. and the second thing i would say, who is the final arbitrator of life and death. are only murderers the fina arbitrators to life and death. charlie: or is it state. >> or is it the state and society meaning to at least a great par its citizens. i would say it should be a power with the citizens. the state that have capital punishment have them. those that don't, don't. but of course, you know, know barry schek and there are many people who wen't even in the states. >> charlie: because of the prevalence of dna evidence today they're able to show that they couldn't have done it. >> yes. so to me it a very -- >> charlie: juries make mistake. >> absolutely and it's a very gray area a that's a mistake you