do i care about khalid sheikh mohammed? no. this is one of the critical guys who plan the 9/11. but we're we're not supposed to stoop to their level. >> the truth is about khalid sheikh mohammed, you really didn't break him. >> why, why you say that. >> he didn't tell but osama bin laden. he didn't tell you how to get him, find him. >> some of these people were not going to tell us everything. >> so you don't break them. >> there is a limit. there is a limit to what they will tell us. >> and apparently you reached that limit right away. according to the c.i.a. inspector general you didn't get any good information out of these guys. why did you do it 183 times if you weren't getting any information. you knew there was a limit to what you were going to get. god, this is such an embarrassment for this great great country. we're not supposed to be like tin pot dictators that torture detainees that they have. get a load of the misinformation that he puts here. it gives you a sense of whether he's totally lying or has no idea what he's talking about. watch this. >> we don't know. we d

yesterday we spoke about the upcoming trial of khalid sheikh mohammed and the four alleged coconspirators of the nine eleven plot now in the trial happens it'll take place in a military commission and his words danger room reported yesterday. the government is trying to get around having to talk about torture thanks to a plea deal struck with another detainee khan who's going to testify but this week they're proceedings that guantanamo bay in the case of. on the shiri he's alleged to have orchestrated the bombing of the u.s.s. cole and october of two thousand and so this is going to be the first death penalty trial at gitmo and the government is already trying to feel it in secrecy which is why a first amendment attorney is currently on his way to guantanamo to speak on behalf of a number of media organizations to have the first ever testimony by captive about cia interrogations be made open to the press so is their hope yes but torture will be publicly addressed will join me to discuss it as marcy wheeler blogger at mt we'll marcy thanks so much for joining us tonight and i guess before

sheikh mohammed and abu zubaydah and nobody's ever claimed that mysterious waterboarding was effective so you know there are details that bet they might be afraid to come out but i also suspect that they're very worried that if the shiri is allowed to testify about these things publicly then it sets the precedent and college mohammad would be able to well let's say that they actually get to have their way right that missionary doesn't get size five about any of this that in the case of khalid shaikh mohammad that they'll get this guy with a plea deal and that'll be enough his testimony about of enough evidence for the judge then are there any other places that you know that but there still might be a chance or does it just become a closed book because the issue of torture has got to go by completely on address at these military commissions that are you know the where the death penalty is the issue of guantanamo bay well certainly with the military commissions i think that would you know if if if the trials of machinery and khalid sheikh muhammad go forward without any mention of the br

sheikh mohammed told us something. and maybe that is because of the torture. >> they do this a lot. like the arab spring was caused by the iraq war. ten years later we capture bin laden, clearly that was the result. this gets back to this national psychosis that gripped the country after 9/11. we had a cover up with the cia where tapes disappeared and the other thing that rodriguez said he was in no danger of dying. we also know many detainees did die over the past few years when they doing this. >> and one of the things they would do is slam them against the wall and they weren't likely to get a concussion or blood clot unless they did. look, this lead to a devolvement in iraq and afghanistan, and the next thing you know a lot of people died being tortured. >> right. >> and another one point it was over a hundred deaths. at one point a guy was thrown off of a bridge. >> the jaysoc command were putting people outside in the mud all night, shooting them with paintballs. this was corruption at the top, and now he is sell

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so jose rodriguez, again, the cia guy who designed the and khalid sheikh mohammed did break. he broke. >> right. >> bill: so did the other guys. i think there were three others beside him who they waterboarded, all of them broke and gave information that saved thousands of lives. yet, the left still says -- president obama himself, torture, we don't do this anymore as a nation. besmirched our reputation around the world which i don't think is true. what do you say? >> i say what has besmirched our reputation is the fact that we remain in afghanistan 11 years after we went in. the longest running conflict in our history. that besmirches our -- >> bill: why? doing that to protect the afghan people. >> because we haven't won a decisive victory. we are right now, this administration providing a free passage to chicago to convene discussions. that makes us look like. >> bill: taliban? >> yeah. we look like abject fools. waterboarding, what in the world is a former covert head doing talking about all of this? why do we have a cia that has to put up with a administration that gives

khalid sheikh mohammed set to face the death penalty now for his role in the 9/11 attacks. the pentagon has announced a new military trial for the self-confessed mastermind. this comes three years after u.s. attorney general eric holder made this very memorable proclamation. >> after eight years of delay, those allegedly responsible for the attacks of september the 11th will finally face justice. they will be brought to new york to new york, to answer for their alleged crimes in a courthouse just blocks away from where the twin towers once stood. martha: well of course that ran into a lot of headwind. and now this will take place back at gitmo. joined by charles simpson, former deputy assistant secretary of defense tore detainees and legal fellow at heritage foundation. >> martha, good morning. martha: people have been waiting for this for a very long time. more than 10 years in fact so why now? >> well, now because once they reluctantly sent the case back to gitmo for military commissions the process started over again and the convening authority, the person, entity that o

so jose rodriguez, again, the cia guy who designed the and khalid sheikh mohammed did break. he broke. >> right. >> bill: so did the other guys. i think there were three others beside him who they waterboarded, all of them broke and gave information that saved thousands of lives. yet, the left still says -- president obama himself, torture, we don't do this anymore as a nation. besmirched our reputation around the world which i don't think is true. what do you say? >> i say what has besmirched our reputation is the fact that we remain in afghanistan 11 years after we went in. the longest running conflict in our history. that besmirches our -- >> bill: why? doing that to protect the afghan people. >> because we haven't won a decisive victory. we are right now, this administration providing a free passage to chicago to convene discussions. that makes us look like. >> bill: taliban? >> yeah. we look like abject fools. waterboarding, what in the world is a former covert head doing talking about all of this? why do we have a cia that has to put up with a administration that gives

but yesterday we spoke about the upcoming trial of khalid sheikh mohammed and the four alleged coconspirators of the nine eleven thought now in the trial happens it will take place in a military commission and is wired changeroom reported yesterday. the government is trying to get around having to talk about his ends torture thanks to a plea deal struck with another detainee khan who's going to testify but this week they're proceedings at guantanamo bay in the case of. on the shiri he's alleged to have orchestrated the bombing of the u.s.s. cole in october of two thousand and so this is going to be the first death penalty trial at how the government is already trying to fill it in secrecy which is why a first amendment attorney is currently on his way to guantanamo to speak on behalf of a number of media organizations to have the first ever testimony by captive about cia interrogations be made open to the press so is there hope yet that torture will be publicly addressed will join me to discuss it as marcy wheeler blogger and we'll marcy thanks so much for joining us tonight and i guess befor

including khalid sheikh mohammed cell described architect of 9/11. and a operational chief for al qaeda and al-nashiri accused of planning the attack on uss cole in 2000. drone campaign in yemen alone where the most lethal al qaeda affiliate operates there is dramatic number of drone strikes. rodriguez charged in the interview that the obama administration has become too reliant on the drone campaign. >> we don't capture anybody, anymore, leslie. the default option of this administration is to kill all prisoners. take no prisoners. >> the drones. >> the drones. how could it be more ethical to kill people rather than capture them? i never understood that one. >> reporter: in october last year three americans including the first american on the cia's kill or capture list, anwar al-alaki was killed by drone strikes in yemen. jon: he makes an interesting point. what is the response that interview? >> reporter: in a statement, aclu saying quote, no policy in the last decade brought more shame on america like bush he's administration's embrace of torture.

including khalid sheikh mohammed cell described architt of 9/11. and a operational chief for al qaeda and al-nashiri accused of planning the attack on uss cole in 2000. drone campaign in yemen alone where the most lethal al qaeda affiliate operates there is dramatic number of drone strikes. rodriguez charged in the interview that the obama administration has become too reliant on the drone campaign. >> we don't capture anybody, anymore, leslie. the default option o this administration is to kill all prisoners. take no prisoners. >> the drones. >> the drones. how couldt be more ethical to kill people rather than capture them? i never understood that one. >> reporter: in october last year three americans including the first american on the cia's kill or capture list, anwar al-alaki was killed by drone strikes in yemen. jon: he makes an interesting point. what is the response that interview? >> reporter: in a statement, aclu saying quote, no policy in the last decade brought more shame on america like bush he's administration's embrace of tture. jose

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sheikh mohammed. do you buy that? >> he's entitled to his opinion. he has experience in regard. i think it's unfortunately ignoring a very important piece of supplementary information. which is that we use these same techniques against another al qaeda operative, olibbi and this individual told us that saddam hussein was involved with 9/11 and it led us to invade a country mistakenly and led us to spend millions and billions of dollars, and american lives were lost. if you look at the math, that's not very good. i think we have to ask is this reliable in a consistent way. and i'm not sure it is. this is setting aside you will the other considerations that we have. there are a lot of our neighbors and allies that are not very happy with us using these techniques to begin with. >> the fact that mr. rodriguez says that look, we've had at least ten incidents of people giving up good information. it suggest it is does work in some circumstances, can you at all define what those circumstances would be? is i

. >>> terrorism charges were filed for the second time against da khalid sheikh mohammed. >>> courtesy of the california department of corrections here is the latest picture of serial killer charles manson. manson is now 77, faces one of the ridiculous parole hearings he loves to theatric at april 11th. he was convicted of killing actress sharon tait and six others in a killing spree in 1969. >>> squeezing out, are centrists and moderates no longer welcome in the gop? some of them are leaving the gop. >>> plus are we there yet? mitt romney makes no secret he wants his primary to be over. how does he get the rest of the field to drop out or stop running? you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. ashboard. e-trade 360 is the world's first investing homepage that shows you where all your investments are and what they're doing with free streaming quotes, news, analysis and even your trade ticket. everything exactly the way you want it, all on one page. transform your investing with the all-new e-trade 360 investing dashboard. >>> can a moderate republican find a home in the republ

sheikh mohammed." are you surprised by these conversations at all? >> not surprised at all. if the operation had gone badly, u.s. and navy s.e.a.l.s died or found the wrong men, everybody would be yelling at president obama. everything is fair. the operation went flawlessly. we lost a new helicopters but no civils were armed. no s.e.a.l.s were harmed. president owe about ma i i had deserves the credit. it might deter future presidents from taking action if a romney campaign spokesman do we want to seem like it's politicizing. >> i disagree. if you're worried about what the other side's spokesperson is going to say in the next election cycle as president, you're out of your mind. you really are not going to be figuring -- >> a lot of calculations go into it social and it's not helpful for them in a national security matter to be politicizing it and at the same time complaining about politic yung ho. >> most agree it's a positive for president obama. he'll talk about it being a 50/50 decision. the questi

khalid sheikh mohammed will go on trial for a war crimes tribunal at guantanamo bay. and they will face the possibility of the death penalty. that's the word today from the pentagon. it reports the head of the military trials signed off on that decision today. these are the documents listing the charges against the defendants. all the names of 2976 people they are accused of killing. ksm as they call him and the others will have their first hearing in the next 30 days. another terrorist in is telling united states come get me. he wants his own reward money. militant leader is accused of plotting the 2008 mumbai terrorist attacks that killed 166 people. six americans among them. he says he is surprised the u.s. doesn't know where to find him. he held a news conference of his own today and said he is not hiding in a cave somewhere. he gives public speeches, even does tv talk shows in pakistan. >> i'm here in front of you people. tomorrow i will be in lahore and release a schedule for the day after tomorrow so america can contact me whenever it wants to. >> shepard: paki

the military reports khalid sheikh mohammed and four others will face a military judge at guantanamo bay on may the 5th. that's the first step in their trial before a war crimes tribunal. all five face the death penalty. the fbi has replaced usama bin laden on its 10 most wanted list, obviously. taking the dictator's place a 40-year-old former private school teacher. here is his picture. the feds say he is wanted on child pornography charges and has been on the run since 2008. the reward, $100,000 for information that leads to his arrest. the miami marlins manager ozzy gene in the hot seat again after he said he admired the former cuban president fidel castro. said he loved him even. today geen says that's not what he meant. the details on that ahead. plus, republicans say the president's healthcare overhaul will pull the united states deeper into debt. but the white house says it will do the opposite. all of that and wait until you hear what just has happened at the university of arkansas. woo pig suey. ugh! all work and no food is making lorenzo very snippy. oh! seriously?! ♪ [ m

khalid sheikh mohammed's trial was put on hd two years ago whn preside oba tri to transfer it to a civilian court. congress blocked that effort, and today, military officials set an arraignment in may. mohammed and four others are charged with terrorism and murder. five former police officers in new orleans were sentenced to prison today in the shootings of unarmed civilians during hurricane katrina. the sentences ranged from six to 65 years, on federal civil rights and firearms charges. two people were killed, and four more wounded in the shootings, on new orlean's danziger bridge. new research has shed light on genetic changes that raise the risof aism. the journal "nature" published the results of three studies today, involving hundreds of families with autistic children. the studies showed that spontaneous mutations can increase the chances of autism. and, fathers are four times more likely to pass on the mutations. dr. thomas insel is director of the national institute of mental health, which helped fund the studies. i spoke with him earlier. hexagon dr. insel, thanks for being with us

khalid sheikh mohammed's trial was put on hold two years ago when president obama tried to transfer it to a civilian court. congress blocked that effort, and today, military officials set an arraignment in may. mohammed and four others are charged with terrorism and murder. five former police officers in new orleans were sentenced to prison today in the shootings of unarmed civilians during hurricane katrina. the sentences ranged from six to 65 years, on federal civil rights and firearms charges. two people were killed, and four more wounded in the shootings, on new orlean's danziger bridge. new research has shed light on genetic changes that raise the risk of autism. the journal "nature" published the results of three studies today, involving hundreds of families with autistic children. the studies showed that spontaneous mutations can increase the chances of autism. and, fathers are four times more likely to pass on the mutations. dr. thomas insel is director of the national institute of mental health, which helped fund the studies. i spoke with him earlier. hexagon dr. insel, thanks

look out, khalid sheikh mohammed. former football star and army reservist who helped out at ground zero is now part of the team that will be prosecuting the 9/11 mastermind. major rob mcgovern is his name, and all-around american hero in every sense of the word. he played for the kansas city chiefs, the steelers, the new england patriots, before serving as an active duty lawyer for the army and will go head-to-head with ksm and four other suspects during the death penalty trial at guantanamo bay bay and, a friend says he'll approach the trial the way he plays football, full on, in your face and ready to argue within the rules. >>> and tried to shut him up but this man is suing the lottery commission and the ticket distributor after finding an unusual small pinprick on the scratch off game and claims it helps retailers identify winning tickets. the state's lottery director said the $20 tickets were tampered with. >> how can you continue to let a business operate with these businesses knowing there is a flaw and there a

sheikh mohammed, the mastermind of 9/11. we captured and in the spring of 2003. he was not very cooperative at the outset. after he had been involved with the enhanced jerrick -- interrogation techniques, waterboarding, he decided he wanted to cooperate and was a wealth of and valuable information for us in terms of our putting together our program to defend the nation against al qaeda. leon panetta when he was cia director at the time, osama bin laden said he believed their bill the -- ability had been influenced by the intelligence we collected through that means before and that led to the location of bin laden when president obama and the seals took him out. zachary neck from tennessee. zachary from tennessee. >> when you were a younger professional -- [unintelligible] i>> now that i am an older professional, one of the most valuable experiences i've learned over time that i did not have when i started was i thought when i started that the quality of my contribution was directly related to how many hours a day and put in