rupert murdoch, it was usually when rupert murdoch was in london for a board meeting. i suspect if he had been in london during that time, would he meet him for a cup of tea? he probably would. i said before he was a very significant player in the media landscape. but i don't think -- put it this way i was surprised more than anything when they produced this record. you seemed to think there was so many. >> not so many, it's just the fact of them against so many competing demands of his time. he knew what the view of "the sun" was. he didn't have to talk to mr. murdoch, he could pick up a copy of "the times ". >> i think he could have picked up a copy of anything in the world. it is important to remember -- see, we're looking at this now, you're asking me to -- and people may think it's awful that i don't remember something i've written about, and i just don't. for me as well, there was so much going on at that time, but it doesn't strike me as that odd, not the least because by then, i think it's fair to say tony blair had very few strong supporters in the media left.

rupert murdoch. in terms of what i think is going on here -- as i say, i'm relying on what i've written in my diary. what i think is going on is rupert murdoch has placed the call and tony blair has taken that call and rupert murdoch is just wanting to have a chat about what's going on. i go back to the point i made earlier, one of the things i think makes murdoch different to some of the other media and some of what you saw last week, he's a news man. he's interested in what's going on in the world. so i think that's what's going on but i can't help you beyond that because i don't remember the call. but certainly at that time, it was -- it was a very -- he was in a very, very difficult position. and we were all -- in terms of the decisions that were being taken and the policy that was being pursued, it was hugely unpopular. we knew that. most of the rest of the media, either the papers on the left because they were opposed to the war, the bbc because of the dispute we'd got into with them, the right

>> i think my sense was the most influence person in terms of rupert murdoch was rupert murdoch. was she important in the organization? yes. >> were minister afraid of her? >> well, if they were, they shouldn't have been. >> yes, but do you think they were? >> i don't think so. i don't think so. minister were -- one of the reasons why even though it's fair to say i think i'm somewhat p & g at news international now, i would -- i mean, rebecca was always very, very straight forward to deal with and there were a number of stories that i dealt with with her, which was very difficult for individual minister where robin cook was one, steven buyers was another where she was always -- we had a sense of i had a job to do, she had a job to do but we could be straight with each other. >> was the sun ever fed stories by you? >> yeah. so were other papers. i mean, i would say that we were one of the prime sources for every media organization in the country. >> so it wasn't a question of prioritizing the sun you feel, it was just part of your job to -- >> well, look, most -- we made a lot of

>> no, i think the best way into rupert murdoch was via rupert murdoch. >> well, maybe mr. powell is putting it just a notch too high, but if mr. murdoch is not available, the best way to mr. murdoch -- i think he's suggesting is there mr. steltzer. does that overstate it or not? >> i think it probably does. i think from where we were in the uk, steltzer is a very clever, very close to rupert murdoch. but so were quite a few other people that we dealt with on almost a daily basis. people editing newspapers here. all sorts of people. >> one would certainly have to add to the list other individuals, is that correct? >> yeah. >> tony struck up a friendship with irwin that lasted throughout his time in government, and he helped tony win over murdoch. is that true or not? >> it may be. it may be, i think it's true that irwin steltzer became someone that liked tony blair, liked what new labor was doing, and probably was part of the discussions that were going on within that particular newspaper group. but i think we were always conscious that in terms any of decision that there w

i think the best way in to rupert murdoch was via rupert murdoch. >> well, maybe mr. powell is putting it just a notch too high. but if murdoch's not available, the best way to mr. murdoch, i think he's suggesting, is through mr. steltzer. does that overstate it or not? >> i think it probably does. i think from where we were in the uk -- irwin steltzer's a very clever, very close to rupert murdoch. so were quite a few other people we dealt with almost on a daily basis. the people editing newspapers here, les hinton and all sorts of people. >> so one would certainly have to add to the list other individuals, is that correct? >> yeah. >> tony struck up a friendship with irwin that lasted throughout his time in government, and he helped tony win over murdoch. is that true or not? >> it may be. i think that irwin steltzer became somebody that liked tony blair, liked what new labour was doing and probably was part of the discussions that were going on within that particular newspaper group. but i think we were always conscious that in terms of any decision that there would

rupert murdoch was not a fit person to run an international company. it would be correctly seen as a partisan reports and has lost a great deal of its credibility. >> news corp. said the verdict as unjustified and highly partisan. in an e-mail to staff, mr. murdoch said -- i recognize for all of us, it is difficult to read many of the report's findings. but we have done the most difficult part, taking a long hard look at our past mistakes. the expensive question for mr. murdoch is whether these mistakes will make it more likely that the media regulator will rule that bskyb is ugfit to hold a broadcasting licence. the news of the world scandal still making news, still shaking the sprawling media empire of james and rupert murdoch. >> we're back now to burma, where the opposition leader is said to tickers seat in parliament. she has now arrived there. we can cross to our east asia correspondent. these pictures is the moment ago of this very important time. >> i am just standing at the side of the parliamentary chamber. she has taken up proceed in a row g

i think rupert murdoch has a lot of questions to answer. he has a lot to answer for and i think he is for the first time being held to account. >> what will be the impact of the verdict that rupert murdoch is not fit to run an international company? well, here i have just heard a committee say they voted against that verdict. any suggestion that this is a political judgment and not a dispassionate one, well, that could undermine it. >> the issue on which no conservative member felt they could support the report itself was the line in the middle that said mr. murdoch was not fish to run an -- fit to run an international company. >> it has lost a great deal of its credibility which is an enormous shame. >> news corp sees the verdict on mr. murdoch as unjustified and hardly -- highly partisan. in an e-mail, mr. murdoch said, "i recognize that for all of us, and myself in particular, it is difficult to read many of the report's findings, but we have done the most difficult part, which is to take a long on this look at our mistakes." the big and

rupert murdoch is just wanting to have a chat about what's going on. i go back to the point i made earlier, one of the things i think makes murdoch different to some of the other media and some of what you saw last week, he's a news man. he's interested in what's going on in the world. so i think that's what's going on but i can't help you beyond that because i don't remember the call. but certainly at that time, it was -- it was a very -- he was in a very, very difficult position. and we were all -- in terms of the decisions that were being taken and the policy that was being pursued, it was hugely unpopular. we knew that. most of the rest of the media, either the papers on the left because they were opposed to the war, the bbc because of the dispute we'd got into with them, the right-wing papers, most of them because they hated tony blair by then, it was a pretty difficult media landscape. and whether rupert murdoch was kind of just signaling, well, kind of the last one standing, i don't know. so that's all i can really give you is what i've put in m

rupert murdoch. was she increasingly important in the organization? yes. >> were ministers afraid of her? >> i don't -- i'd say ththey sh have been. >> do you think they were? >> i don't think so. one of the reasons why, even though it's fairs to i think i'm somewhat png at national now, rebekah was always very, very straightforward to deal with. there were a number of stories i dealt with her, very difficult for individual ministers. robin cook was one. steven buyers was another. where she was always -- we had a sense of, i had a job to do, she had a job to do, but we could be straight with each other. >> was "the sun" ever fed stories by you? >> yeah. so were other papers. i would say we were one of the prime sources for every media organization in the country. >> so it wasn't a question of prioritizing "the sun," you feel, it was just part of your job to -- >> well, look. most -- we made a lot of changes from 1997, the biggest of which was putting the briefings on the record. most of my contact wi

and rupert murdoch wanted to have a chat just about what was going on. i said earlier that the only thing that makes rupert murdoch different than some of the other media owners is he's a news man. he's interested in what's going on in the world. so i think that's what was going on, but i can't help you beyond that because i don't remember the call. but certainly at that time it was he was in a very, very difficult position. and we were all, in terms of the decisions that were being taken and the policy that was being pursued, it was hugely unpopular. we knew that. most of the rest of the

rupert murdoch is not fit to run an international company. that was the scathing report from a group of british lawmakers today. the committee found that mr. murdoch's company misled parliament about the scale of phone hacking. news corp. shot back at the statement, calling some of the language unjustified and highly partisan. our business editor of reports. >> rupert murdoch seen as the world's most powerful media mogul. today, declared not a fit person to run an international business. he and his colleagues turned a blind eye for years to a phone hacking by journalists at the news of the world. >> everybody in the world knows who is responsible. will part murdoch. more than any individual alive, he is to blame. morally, the deeds are his. he pay the piper. >> the committee was arguably even more damning about his colleagues. the former editor, the legal affairs manager, and his right- hand man. all accused of misleading impi'' by telling them packing was limited to the work of a single reporter. the whole house of commons may find them guil

the british lawmakers say that rupert murdoch was responsible for the phone hacking scandal. >> rupert murdoch should not be running an international company like b sky b. >> shining a light on the occupy movement. they are having an impact on the world of art. welcome to our viewers on pbs in america. the president made a surprise visit to afghanistan. he is there to sign an agreement on future dealings with the country. for more on the trip and the future of relations between washington and kabul, i am joined by former u.s. defense secretary, richard cohen. he sizes agreement which marked involvement in afghanistan. 2024. what will that mean? >> that was always the plan. the notion that we would be there just for a short time, that meaning a decade. changing afghanistan on the ground will take decades and not just one. the plan was always to increase the troop level, then try to stabilize responsibility over to the army and police, reduce our presence, so we could have a prevention force that would prevent a resurgence of al qaeda, taliban, and serve to discourage the taliban from pa

rupert murdoch unfit to run his media empire. "nightly business report" is brought to you by: captioning sponsored by wpbt >> tom: big questions today about the leadership at two big companies-- news corp and chesapeake energy. susie, we'll have more on the issues swirling around both companies in just a moment. >> susie: meanwhile, tom, occupy wall street hoped to breathe new life into its movement with may day protests today. demonstrators marched through manhattan's financial district and protested in front of several large banks and media outlets, but in smaller numbers than marches last fall. similar protests took place other cities, including chicago, san francisco, and los angeles. he built one of the world's largest media empires. but today, rupert murdoch is being called "not fit to run" a global company. that's the conclusion of a committee of british lawmakers looking into wrongdoing by murdocownenewspapers in the united kingdom caught up in the phone hacking scandal, when reporters illegally obtained voicemails from c

rupert murdoch unfit to run his media empire. "nightly business report" is brought to you by: captioning sponsored by wpbt >> tom: big questions today about the leadership at two big companies-- news corp and chesapeake energy. susie, we'll have more on the issues swirling around both companies in just a moment. >> susie: meanwhile, tom, occupy wall street hoped to breathe new life into its movement with may day protests today. demonstrators marched through manhattan's financial district and protested in front of several large banks and media outlets, but in smaller numbers than marches last fall. similar protests took place other cities, including chicago, san francisco, and los angeles. he built one of the world's largest media empires. but today, rupert murdoch is being called "not fit to run" a global company. that's the conclusion of a committee of british lawmakers looking into wrongdoing by murdoch-owned newspapers in the united kingdom caught up in the phone hacking scandal, when reporters illegally obtained voicemails fr

and rupert murdoch has not said his last apology to the families of murdered children. let us also remember that this scandal cost many hundreds of journalists, innocent journalists their jobs. they found hard to find work. i know this because i provided references for a number of them. parliament was misled. that we now know. but there were four issues we couldn't get to the bottom of because of time constraints, decisions of the committee not to proceed, or because they fall outside. former member of the scottish parliament tommy sheridan lost his liberty on a majority verdict of the jury that was not in full possession of the facts. he received a three-year prison sentence. i believe the judgment is unsound. is rupert murdoch really is sorry, he would order an urgent review of the information his company provided to the jury in the shared in case you're not a we know that the former first minister in scotland was also a target of hacking, i am writing to alexander to have them set up an inquiry by the scottish part into how and why they were targeted. secondly, we as

uk lawmakers a rupert murdoch unfit to lead major global company, and uk lawmakers a rupert murdoch's executives misled parliament over phone hacking. and deliberately ignored evidence of malpractice, covered up evidence and efforts to expose wrongdoing. if you missed any of our coverage of the levinson inquiry into british phone hacking, those hearings are available on our website at c-span.org. go to the c-span video library. spent our live coverage on c-span2 will continue at 8:30 a.m. issue. limper goes a a look at the economy. panels through the day will focus on government spending, the housing market, federal banks, the impact of free markets, tax rates, the dollar and a number of other topics. coverage starting at 8:30 a.m. eastern. you can also see online at c-span.org. >> our companion network c-span will be live at 10 eastern a set of national drug control policy will discuss the obama administration's approach to drug control which was released on april 17. >> i have seen to earn a certain place where people listen to me, and i've always cared about the country. and the gr

report murdoch who founded -- rupert murdoch founded the organization. also the human cost of phone hacking, it was not just a technical trick or a victimless crime. the cost was laid bare in some of the statements filed by a newsgroup is papers and we cite one of those statements, those of shalit church and her family. >> thank you. the report talks about our astonishment at the failure of the company to investigate fully and uncover incidents of phone hacking from the period of the court and taylor settlement through 2010 and 2011. there were plenty of flights flashing on the dashboard to suggest a greater investigation was needed. i am looking at the pivotal role of james murdoch in the gordon taylor case, we have been minded to follow precisely the evidence we were given, which does not contradict anything he said to the committee and therefore it is not possible to say he misled parliament. we can be critical of the actions at that time. of the failure to disclose information about phone hacking. the failure to investigate it fully. i would also tou

i am sure that rupert murdoch was. i am sure he did a very clear view. >> would you agree with this that mr. murdoch's express it very clear view to require a markedly robust editor? >> bold move, yes. >> after the meeting, mr. cameron must have been pretty happy? >> we had a brief conversation on the phone. yes, i think it was positive news. >> very positive news. >> my view was instinctively cautious. let's wait and see when and how it happens. >> you are instinctively cautious about everything. this was in the bath. >> in my mind, i was not going to see it as an absolute until i had seen the paper. >> you had no idea when the news would break? >> i am not sure precisely when it would break. i did not play a part. i cannot recall once the labor conference had started. i may have been told that it was likely or not. i do remember being at home and seeing the television in showing the front page. that was the moment when i fell the paper was there. it had happened. as i say in my statement, i am not suggesting it was-.

>> no, i think the best way into rupert murdoch was via rupert murdoch. >> well, maybe mr. powell is putting it just a notch too high, but if mr. murdoch is not available, the best way to mr. murdoch -- i think he's suggesting is there mr. steltzer. does that overstate it or not? >> i think it probably does. i think from where we were in the uk, steltzer is a very clever, very close to rupert murdoch. but so were quite a few other people that we dealt with on almost a daily basis. people editing newspapers here. all sorts of people. >> one would certainly have to add to the list other individuals, is that correct? >> yeah. >> tony struck up a friendship with irwin that lasted throughout his time in government, and he helped tony win over murdoch. is that true or not? >> it may be. it may be, i think it's true that irwin steltzer became someone that liked tony blair, liked what new labor was doing, and probably was part of the discussions that were going on within that particular newspaper group. but i think we were always conscious that in terms any of decision that there w

and rupert murdoch loves gossip. >> bergman: and he knows how to use it. catch bishops, politicians or celebrities in the wrong bed, and you can sell a lot of papers. and the headlines don't have to be troubled by the truth. didn't you have a headline about eating a hamster? >> yeah, we did, yeah, but that's, uh... >> bergman: that turned out not to be true? >> well, i think he lived off it for about 30 years and then somebody said that it wasn't true. but i don't know whether it's true or it's not true. i mean i don't know. but at the time, they said it was true. >> tabloid journalism requires a constant supply of victims. it doesn't really matter whether they're celebrities fallen on hard times or committing adultery, or footballers who are in trouble for one reason or another, or errant politicians. so that you need a constant supply of victims, and they decide who the victims will be and you get monstered. (dial tones) >> bergman: labour member of parliament chris bryant understands what it's like to be monstered. >> (on voicemail): hi there, it's chri

candidate sarah palin all were paid by rupert murdoch to be fox news contributors x. news is not news it's the megaphone for the republican party and the impact of this network is real a study released last year by the farley dickens' and university on the fox news viewers are less informed about the real issues that this nation faces than people who don't watch any news at all and a study released the previous year by the university of maryland found the fox news viewers are far more likely to believe false political information for example they found that fox viewers were thirty points more likely to believe the climate change is a hoax fourteen points more likely to believe their taxes have gone up even though president obama has pretty much only cut taxes on everyone. twelve points more likely to believe the stimulus package actually causes job losses rather than creating the millions of jobs that the c b a and nearly every other nonpartisan economist has pointed out and fox news viewers are more third thirty one points more likely to believe president obama wasn'

candidate sarah palin all were paid by rupert murdoch to be fox news contributors x. news is not news it's the megaphone for the republican party and the impact of this network is real a study released last year by a farly dickens' and university found the fox news viewers are less informed about the real issues that this nation faces than people who don't watch any news at all and study really. the previous year by the university of maryland found the fox news viewers are far more likely to believe false political information for example it found that fox viewers were thirty points more likely to believe the climate change is a hoax fourteen points more likely to believe their taxes have gone up even though president obama has pretty much only cut taxes on everyone twelve points more likely to believe the stimulus package actually causes job losses rather than creating the millions of jobs that the c b a and nearly every other nonpartisan economist has pointed out and fox news viewers are more third thirty one points more likely to believe president obama wasn't born

candidate sarah palin all were paid by rupert murdoch to be fox news contributors x. news is not news it's the megaphone for the republican party and the impact of this network is real a study released last year by the farley dickens' and university on the fox news viewers are less informed about the real issues that this nation faces than people who don't watch any news at all and study really. the previous year by the university of maryland found the fox news viewers are far more likely to believe false political information for example they found that fox viewers were thirty points more likely to believe the climate change is a hoax fourteen points more likely to believe their taxes have gone up even though president obama has pretty much only cut taxes on everyone twelve points more likely to believe the stimulus package actually causes job losses rather than creating the millions of jobs that the c b a and nearly every other nonpartisan economist has pointed out and fox news viewers are more third thirty one points more likely to believe president obama wasn't bo

tens of billions of dollars in annual revenue. >> arrest rupert murdoch! >> reporter: now increasingly under siege, especially at its u.s. corporate headquarters. >> newscorp was already facing justice department investigations into alleged bribes paid to officials overseas. today's report has no direct impact on those probes, does provide powerful ammunition for shareholders suing the company and for investors demanding changes in its management. some of them say now for the first time, murdoch's control could be in jeopardy. >> could it be a blot on my reputation for the rest of my life? >> reporter: already, murdoch has spent hundreds of millions of dollars in legal claims and fees in britain, from a phone hacking scandal with no end in sight. tonight newscorp issued a contrite statement, admitting to wrongdoing. it said it's put sweeping changes into place to make its shareholders proud. it may be too late for that. jim maceda, nbc news, london. >>> on wall street today, the dow rose to its highest closing number in more than four years. blue chips wer

rupert murdoch. >> yes, that's a page 249. the last paragraph, really, for the entry for that day. >> yeah. >> the difference today, overestimating the importance of their support for you, the they is a reference to the murdochs, is it? >> yeah. >> i think that relates to the point i made earlier. i think newspapers do overstate their own importance, and i think politicians overstate it as well in terms of endorsements of elections. >> just mr. keating's, you can do deals with him without ever saying a deal is done. was he suggesting there, it's done on a nod and a wink or was he suggesting something else? >> no, i think what he's saying there is actually explained by what he goes on to say in that he's -- he needs to know, is the big bad bastard point, he needs to know that you can be as tough as you need to be. and i think that -- you see, again, i think in relation to this whole area of policy, for me, there's been all this focus on our media management techniques and so forth and, you know, endle

rupert murdoch to give evidence to the committee. some slightly sort of, i don't quite understand why concerted members of discussion about rupert murdoch was some of ultraviolet to the committee but perhaps they could explain the. and furthermore why did not propose any alternative amendment if he disliked the characterization of rupert murdoch? and in particular why don't they support amendment vis-À-vis the fit person statements? >> first of all, in terms of, well, why do we not put an alternative, that was an amendment before. we were voting to restate the status quo of the report. so you don't put forward an amendment to an amendment that has not yet been voted on. that's just, yeah, i don't we understand your point really. >> go on. >> that'sfine. >> we have to decide whether rupert murdoch misled us and what he said department of an no one proposed at any point that he misled parliament. now, there is in the corporate, a next step actually, the corporate line, that was an amendment i supported in the votes. and there we were

, and rupert murdoch himself. guest: they have given evidence. they were summoned to by levinson, who has subpoena power. host: we want to talk to melanie sloan about impact here in the u.s.. [video clip] >> we hired a law firm to look into this and aid our cooperation with the police. after the charging you -- not the arrest -- that was it, they were close to the files. i can't believe they would have done that and they were unhappy with our cooperation. >> that is not evidence we have had at all, mr. murdoch. it demonstrates the law firm you mention produced just one document, which you know, to not represent the position at all. one way or another, news international being obstructive. does it not shock you? >> it shocks me deeply, and i was not aware of it and i have not heard of it until he said that. host: this was done with support and guidance of the house of commons but it was a separate, independent inquiry. guest: a separate inquiry into this whole saga. the inquiry that concluded this week was a cultur

but it is even more difficult times for rupert murdoch. we already know that u.s. authorities are watching what's happening here to see what the outcome will be. this is u.k. prosecutors saying, okay, in this case at least, we believe we have the evidence enough to charge and bring rebekah brooks to court. if she was found guilty, send her to jail for this charge which is called perverting the course of justice which in simple terms refers to a cover-up. so a very, very concerning day for rupert murdoch. >> and the cover-up often is more worse than the mistake, the original mistake. we'll see how this all pans out. thanks so much. >>> that is a perfect segue into our next story, the cover-up being worse than the mistake. after weeks of standing pie her father's side, cate edwards is taking the stant in her father's defense. meantime the presiding judge banning a key witness from testifying in this case and that decision could force the former senator to testify. joining me now is north carolina's former deputy attorney general, hampton dellinger, hampton, it's good

critics say tony blair did what amounted to a deal with rupert murdoch. support new labor and we will give you commercial freedom. mr. blair told the inquiry there had never been any such understanding. >> on issues to do with the media, either express or implied. >> he was reminded in 1995, he expected rupert murdoch's invitation to travel to australia to deliver a speech attended by mr. murdoch and his senior executives. it was suggested it was a charm offensive. >> i would not have been going all the way around the world if it had not been a very deliberate and strategic decision and was going to persuade them. >> he said when he became prime minister, he decided not to confront the media. did the relationship become too cozy? >> it is not quite the way i would put it. it was a working relationship. you were dealing with powerful people. >> mr. blair said since leaving downing street, he had become friends with rupert murdoch and was godfather to one of his children. he said labor had ascribed to much power to the press barons. it also reflected on the

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tens of billions of dollars in annual revenue. >> arrest rupert murdoch! >> reporter: now increasingly under siege, especially at its u.s. corporate headquarters. >> newscorp was already facing issues due to bribes. today's report has no direct impact on those probes, does provide powerful ammunition for shareholders suing the company and for investors demanding change in their investment. some of them say now for the first time, murdoch's control could be in jeopardy. >> could it be a blot on my reputation for the rest of my life? >> murdoch has spent hundreds of millions of dollars in fees from in britain from a phone hacking scandal with no end in sight. murdoch issued a contrite statement. the british report has been called partisan and lacking credibility. it said it's put sweeping changes into place to make its shareholders proud. it may be too late for that. jim maceda, nbc news, london. >>> on wall street today, the dow rose to its highest closing number in more than four years. blue chips were up more than 65 points to 13279, the best close since

this should not be a focus simply on rupert murdoch. there is a corporate conclusion about news corp's and news international. it resounded around australia. the phrase was "collective amnesia." if there is one phrase that should at the same way it is one that is used an amendment by me. this was about willful blindness. the failure to follow up public wrong doing some undisciplined the perpetrators. i think that phrase should receive it as well. >> rupert murdoch to get evidence to the news corp.. i do not quite understand why members felt the discussion was somehow the altered virus. why did they not propose any where alternative amendments if they liked the characterization that was agreed? why did they not propose an alternative amendment statement? >> in terms of why do not put it, that was an amendment to the report. we were remaining the status quo. we do not put that on one that has not been on. i did not really understand your point to be perfectly honest. >> we have to decide whether rupert murdoch misled us. no one has propos

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